The Heist

Retrospectively I think it’s obvious Lawwell has planned his heist and his exit to perfection. It was never about the football or the vision.

DD’s concept of Glasgow Celtic is typically Irish. He’s an EPL fan and Celtic was his “second” club. When he became majority shareholder after McCann left and up until DDs 2nd share offer in 2005 some significant events occurred in and around that interim period that has led us to today’s dead end corporate impasse.

1,,, DD never understood football. He really believed at one point Celtic (and maybe even the OF) would get into the EPL. When this didn’t happen he lost interest in the football aspect of Celtic as most Irish Tim’s do and hired Lawwell to run it as a secondary business.


2,,, MON showed that Celtic could make it in Europe again but when the EPL hopes were snubbed it was back to the old concepts. MON told us to get used to life in the slow lane as DD lost interest and Lawwell started his heist. Downsizing I think it was called.


3,,, In the last 16 years it has never been about football except once when DD witnessed Scotland’s vile repugnant hun filth on action and decided to mini dope Celtic and as a result we had the Rodgers mini era that may well end in an historic treble treble. That blip in the heist is now over.


4,,, Astonishingly and historically throughout all this Scotland’s vile repugnant cheating filth ate themselves out of existence in a vain and suicidal attempt to obliterate the memory of Jock Stein.

However, the significance of this event was lost on our custodians. A PLC is not interested in morality or football for that matter.

DD blurbed some shite from the golf course and Lawwell has manipulated around the obviously criminal Sevco Phoenix minefield in perfect silence. Anything else is bad for business and the heist.

For a plethora of confirmation detail just google “Auldheid”

5,,, So here we are. The heist will end when 10iar dies.

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MAGS

Great article,but I’ll take issue with you on a tiny little bit of it. That PL has planned the heist and exit to perfection.

Trying to keep too many balls in the air will lead to his downfall. Yes,he will walk away a rich man,but he could have done so two or three years ago with most of his reputation intact with most of the supporters.

Being the clever man that he believes himself to be,he just couldn’t resist one last throw of the dice. Maybe of course,he was concerned about the skeletons he would leave behind re Res 12. But two or three years ago,it would still have been active,and with a favourable new CEO,could have been followed through. Two years ago,with The Invincible Treble sitting in the trophy room and a top management team in place,he could have honestly said that he was leaving with a legacy of success.

While some of us would not be happy about a number of issues during his time with us,it would be almost impossible to be heard above the general agreement,and we would have settled for simply seeing the last of him.

Now? I think there is a growing realisation amongst the fans that he has managed our club almost entirely for the benefit of himself and his personal advancement. There won’t be a vindication in hindsight of his tenure,as there has been with Fergus. Only a reflection on Johnny Rotten’s last words on stage with The Sex Pistols.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_8mduTEvnU0

Twists n turns

Mags / Bobby

I’ve long held the belief that the emotional connection that exists between Celtic and its supporters allows a level of mediocrity in respect of performance that wouldn’t survive in the normal business world. I’ve also long held the belief that ‘a business’ is exactly what Lawell sees Celtic as.

Now I’m not saying that’s wrong given his responsibilities. I’m simply saying that he can under perform for longer without recourse than the normal businessman. Afforded more time. He’s disconnected from the emotional side of Celtic.

So how long can he get away with underperforming? I suspect it’ll end when he does a Brendan and realises there’s a viable threat looming. One which may see his legacy viewed more unfavourably than he’d like.

Of course he’ll move on. He’s a marketer.

Speaking of marketers, and since we are in quotation mode this morning, here is one from Mark McKinnon :

“ Marketers know that no matter how deep the emotional connection or brand loyalty – when a product does not perform , rational thought overtakes emotion , and most consumers make a new choice”

I reached the “rational thought overtaking emotion “ last week when I didn’t renew, and it’ll be when thousands more reach that stage, or when Lawell realises it’s reaching that stage, that he’ll jump.

In my opinion of course.

big packy

MAGS, great post, some home truths there unfortunately, your right on the button there about mr desmond, celtic, is just a plaything to him, he was convinced we would be allowed into the English premiership, and when that did not happen he lost all interest.hh..

TWISTSNTURNS

Aye well,that mediocrity tolerance wore thin under the old board,and the likes of Cassidy and Brown didn’t see much of it at all. You know plenty of Celtic fans like me-big Paul F for instance-who have long been critical,but there is a growing groundswell against him.

I’d compare him more to a politician than a marketer. There hasn’t been a politician yet who didn’t outstay his welcome. Nor one who didn’t think we were all a bunch of ingrates who couldn’t realise just how brilliant he/she was!!!

BIGPACKY

Morning,mucker.

Article was a guest post by MAGS. He didn’t miss and hit the wall!

big packy

BOBBY, good morning yes mags does not often miss.hh.

Noel Skytrot

Does anyone know how much money Dermott Desmond has invested in Celtic? Interesting perspective on Liewell, Mags.

NOELSKYTROT

I don’t know how much it is worth now,but I’m sure his original investment was £37m all told. I can’t confirm that as it is just the figure running around the inside of an empty skull!

Sunday showed how threadbare our squad is. Seems Lustig,Hayes and Edouard might struggle to make the final.

Add them to our current injuries and I’m thinking of phoning up and offering my services!

I see that James Forrest has taken some time off from “unhealthy trolling” on CQN to suggest that the board may already have a plan to install Neil Lennon as manager as they ran out of time,the process with other options was taking too long. Which I agree is a strong possibility.

I think that’s been suggested once or twice on here too. With the added boot in the baws that the board were unable to get any major signings over the line because of the time spent in the search for a new manager.

bada bing1

BMCUW- The forward planning at the Club, has always been shite, players coming to the end of their time,no succession recruitment, Rodgers fkd off in February, and where are we?

Nail on the head Mags.
HH
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I have said for long enough that we should never ever be in a rebuild position, a well run club would not let this happen, it’s no rocket science FFS, contract lengths are known so a succession is easy to plan for, seems like all the money we are paying the people who should be sorting out simple tasks like this is not enough, or the people tasked with the planning are simply not good enough for the job in hand.
Interesting piece by Peter Houston today re transfers and scouting, kinda what I have been saying for years, the manager has very little input into the signings, but as ever it won’t convince them with an agenda.

Awe Naw

A few scattered thoughts.

Steve Clarke … No from me. An indication of how much the Celtic faithful slavishly still follow the laptop loyal. He has won nothing ever as a coach and we want him as a manager. Thankfully PL is not that stupid.

Sell Ntcham and Rogic this summer

Appointing Neli Lennon may well be an admission that Celtic couldn´t get anyone else or didn´t want anyone else

Still can´t see Lennon getting it due to having crossed PL in the past.

Awe Naw

“when DD witnessed Scotland’s vile repugnant hun filth on action ”

Not true

Twists n turns

If we had been run by a board who just once had sat down once in the past 20 years with a plan to consistently make Celtic a last 16 European team, then that’s what we would be. In addition we would already be sitting on 15 in a row, at least, and counting .

We would be turning over £100m plus season on season and the so called waiting list would be real and sitting at 20,000 plus.

We would be replacing one or two players at most in each transfer window and would see the type of succession planning that would see our status and reputation elevated to the place it should be. I almost said elevated to our rightful place, but given the DD/Lawell lack of such strategy, we are in our rightful place at present.

Instead of that the furthest they have cast their eye is to the other end of the city to determine what’s going on over there. They assume all that matters to the supporters is domestic success.

How many times have you heard Lawell say “ we don’t budget for European income”?
It’s now got to the stage I don’t think he even plans for European income never mind budget for it.

When the revenue drops to a turnover of £50m from the potential £85m what do you do if you’re working on a bonus scheme?

If you’re not sure ask Wanyama, VVD, Moussa Dembele, Fraser Forster to name just a few. Soon you’ll be able to add KT and James Forrest to that list.

The decline is deepening. The next 6 weeks will tell you if the appetite is there to arrest it.

Obviously it’s still slag Brendan time on the other channel, pathetic stuff.
Peter Houston did a piece today spelling out the process when recruiting, I posted a podcast a week or so back with our CEO saying kinda the same thing, yet cqn does a piece today admonishing everyone from blame apart from BR and LC.
Also the ganging up on James Forrest is more suited to a hun blog, yet they can’t see it, it’s the party line or else, sad that a once top top quality blog has succumbed to the depths it has.

The Peter Houston bit
https://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/17637061.ex-scout-confident-incredible-celtic-recruitment-set-up-will-unearth-more-gems-in-summer-squad-overhaul/
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The Pedro podcast where he outline how we recruit, the same as Peter Houston said and what I have been saying for years.
The recruitment bit is at the beginning of the chat.
https://celticunderground.net/chatting-with-peter-lawwell/
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And just remember that Brendan has said more than once, any player is better than no player no matter.

fan-a-tic

Mags
Good article and a particularly fitting headline.
Have to agree with Awe Naw that the DD situation never happened.
Can’t see the Irish Raj giving a fuck what Scottish supporters say or do.
He has shown utter contempt to our supporters on many an occasion so doubtful huns being huns would cause him to react in any way.
The empty seats and declining profits were the catalyst for Rodgers appointment.
He then sat back and allowed Lawwell to undermine Rodgers who brought footballing and financial success.
Those are not the actions of one who cares for our club.

Fan
There will be no action taken till the stands start to empty like under the last coach, that is a while away as yet, only then will DD take any action, hence the reason why I am convinced Lenny or someone his standard will get the job.
HH

Awe Naw

—————————————Present squad ——————–
GK Scotland Craig Gordon
GK Scotland Scott Bain
GK De Vries Gone
Defenders
DF Germany Jeremy Toljan Gone
DF Honduras Emilio Izaguirre
DF Scotland Jack Hendry
DF Croatia Jozo Šimunović
DF Costa Rica Cristian Gamboa Gone
DF Belgium Dedryck Boyata Gone
DF Sweden Mikael Lustig Gone
DF Croatia Filip Benković Gone
DF Norway Kristoffer Ajer
DF Scotland Anthony Ralston
DF Scotland Kieran Tierney
DF M.Compper One Year Left
Midfielders
MF Israel Nir Bitton
MF Scotland Scott Brown (captain)
MF England Scott Sinclair Possible goner
MF Australia Daniel Arzani
MF Republic of Ireland Jonny Hayes
MF Scotland Ryan Christie
MF Australia Tom Rogic
MF Scott Allan Gone
MF France Olivier Ntcham
MF Scotland Callum McGregor
MF Scotland James Forrest
MF Scotland Ewan Henderson
MF Ivory Coast Eboue Kouassi
Forwards
FW Scotland Leigh Griffiths
FW Ivory Coast Vakoun Issouf Bayo
FW France Odsonne Édouard
FW Scotland Oliver Burke Gone
FW United States Timothy Weah Gone
FW Scotland Mikey Johnston

First team Players – On Loan
65. C. HAZARD
A. GUTMAN
M. PEREZ
59. C. MILLER
M. SHVED
16. L. MORGAN
26. K. BENYU six Months Left
27. Y. MULUMBU One year Left
————————————-squad after cup final————————————————-
GK Scotland Craig Gordon one year left
GK Scotland Scott Bain
Defenders
DF Honduras Emilio Izaguirre Possible goner
DF Scotland Jack Hendry
DF Croatia Jozo Šimunović
DF Norway Kristoffer Ajer
DF Scotland Anthony Ralston
DF Scotland Kieran Tierney
DF M.Compper One Year Left
Midfielders
MF Israel Nir Bitton One year left
MF Scotland Scott Brown (captain)
MF England Scott Sinclair Possible goner
MF Australia Daniel Arzani Definite goner
MF Republic of Ireland Jonny Hayes One year left
MF Scotland Ryan Christie
MF Australia Tom Rogic
MF France Olivier Ntcham
MF Scotland Callum McGregor
MF Scotland James Forrest
MF Scotland Ewan Henderson
MF Ivory Coast Eboue Kouassi
Forwards
FW Scotland Leigh Griffiths Question mark
FW Ivory Coast Vakoun Issouf Bayo Injured
FW France Odsonne Édouard
FW Scotland Mikey Johnston

First team Players – On Loan
65. C. HAZARD
A. GUTMAN
M. PEREZ
59. C. MILLER
M. SHVED
16. L. MORGAN
26. K. BENYU six Months Left
27. Y. MULUMBU One year Left
—————————————————–squad after removing goners ——————————–
GK Scotland Craig Gordon one year left
GK Scotland Scott Bain
Defenders
DF Scotland Jack Hendry
DF Croatia Jozo Šimunović
DF Norway Kristoffer Ajer
DF Scotland Anthony Ralston
DF Scotland Kieran Tierney
DF M.Compper One Year Left
Midfielders
MF Israel Nir Bitton One year left
MF Scotland Scott Brown (captain)
MF Republic of Ireland Jonny Hayes One year left
MF Scotland Ryan Christie
MF Australia Tom Rogic
MF France Olivier Ntcham
MF Scotland Callum McGregor
MF Scotland James Forrest
MF Scotland Ewan Henderson
MF Ivory Coast Eboue Kouassi
Forwards
FW Scotland Leigh Griffiths Question mark
FW Ivory Coast Vakoun Issouf Bayo Injured
FW France Odsonne Édouard
FW Scotland Mikey Johnston

First team Players – On Loan
65. C. HAZARD
A. GUTMAN
M. PEREZ
59. C. MILLER One year left
M. SHVED
16. L. MORGAN
27. Y. MULUMBU One year Left
—————————squad after PL has dealt with the flotsam and jetsam ———————–
GK Scotland Scott Bain
Defenders
DF Scotland Jack Hendry
DF Croatia Jozo Šimunović
DF Norway Kristoffer Ajer
DF Scotland Anthony Ralston
DF Scotland Kieran Tierney
Midfielders
MF Scotland Scott Brown (captain)
MF Scotland Ryan Christie
MF Australia Tom Rogic
MF France Olivier Ntcham
MF Scotland Callum McGregor
MF Scotland James Forrest
MF Scotland Ewan Henderson
MF Ivory Coast Eboue Kouassi
Forwards
FW Scotland Leigh Griffiths Question mark
FW Ivory Coast Vakoun Issouf Bayo Injured
FW France Odsonne Édouard
FW Scotland Mikey Johnston

First team Players – On Loan
65. C. HAZARD
A. GUTMAN
M. PEREZ
59. C. MILLER
M. SHVED
16. L. MORGAN
———————————————-squad after Loan players have been reintroduced—————————
GK Scotland Scott Bain
GK Conor Hazard
Defenders
DF Andre Gutman
DF Manny Perez
DF Scotland Jack Hendry
DF Croatia Jozo Šimunović
DF Norway Kristoffer Ajer
DF Scotland Anthony Ralston
DF Scotland Kieran Tierney
Midfielders
MF Scotland Scott Brown (captain)
MF Scotland Ryan Christie
MF Australia Tom Rogic
MF France Olivier Ntcham
MF Scotland Callum McGregor
MF Scotland James Forrest
MF Scotland Ewan Henderson
MF Ivory Coast Eboue Kouassi
MF Shved
MF Morgan
Forwards
FW Scotland Leigh Griffiths Question mark
FW Ivory Coast Vakoun Issouf Bayo Injured
FW France Odsonne Édouard
FW Scotland Mikey Johnston
—————————————————–

This leaves us with a nicely balanced squad of 23 players. Of course I am assuming that Sinclair is not resigned and that
those left on one year deals are sold. Some more likely to hang on like Hayes and Gordon but now would be the ideal time
to move them on. It also assumes that we dont do a dirty and sell a Tierney or a Mc Gregor or a Forrest.

I would also like to see Kouassi sold. 2.5 years 1.5 years left and very litte contribution.
We also have the situation regarding two of our forwards not being match fit for the start of the season

I would also punt Rogic and Ntcham this summer. Not consistently good enough and dont want to play for Celtic.
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So take a look at that squad and stop dreaming about managers with an EPL profile
———————————————————————-
This is next years squad but with an eventually uninjured Bayo and a mentally unladen Leigh Griffiths
—————————————————————————————

fan-a-tic

The Exiled Tim
I always had the feeling that particular blog was actually set up by the PLC to control the narrative.
I posted on it almost from it’s inception and accepted this as a small price to pay to converse with fellow Celtic supporters.
I stopped recently when i felt it no longer represented the ethos of the Celtic support.
The present climate around the club has the PLC in panic mode.
The manipulation has been sussed and many of the better posters have left.
With a lot less clout that the blog has amongst the Celtic support it’s becoming harder to implement things that do not have widespread support.
As rational does not suit their agenda they have resorted to ganging up on dissenters and using a jackbooted approach to silence debate.
Incredible for me that so many on there are desperate to be the teachers pet but there are some skilled operators who are clearly PLC plants.
It’s going to be and interesting 3 months.

bada bing1

Collum gets his first huns game on Sunday, since September, Tipped that last week, the huns hand picked their referees all season, Fleming couldn’t afford to carry it on to next season,absolute joke

Awe Naw

Twists,

“They assume all that matters to the supporters is domestic success”

you give our support far far far far far far far too much credit.

As has been amply demonstrated on here the last two days and the Board are spot on, the majority of the support don’t give a flying fuck about success compared to beating Rangers.

Awe Naw

correction

As has been amply demonstrated on here the last two days and the Board are ABSOLUTELY spot on and hav ethe majority of our support completely sussed STUPID AS IN THICK UNEDUCATED BIGOTS WHOM WALLOW IN IT, the majority of the support don’t give a flying fuck about DOMESTIC or EUROPEAN success compared to beating Rangers.

The system of recruitment at Celtic is very good, we are just not that good at it, players are signed on the say so of the CEO, the head scout and whoever is in charge of the coaching at the time, the way it should be, but it doesn’t always work like that, the Ukranian fella we signed in the last window, Arzani from Man Cty are just two examples of the coach at the time knowing nothing about them, I assume his scout didn’t know anything about them either hence his public outburst.
When people tell me that the manager-coach signs the players and it’s they who are responsible I sight Craig Gordon, a player who was signed under the RD watch but he didn’t know anything about him, he was signed by the CEO, Brafiheed [sp] is another one, turned up at the training ground one day unknown to the coaching staff, but it’s never the fault of the CEO and the chief scout, unless you happen to be called Lee Congerton and are connected Brendan Rodgers, the info is there for everyone to see, yet people still refuse to accept it.
It was BR who was quoted as saying that any player is better than no player, nothing to do with me.

Margaret McGill

Ok I will accept that I may have been SMSM’d on the motivation for the BR heist blip but it was not a Lawwell decision and it improved the football immensely. Not good enough for Europe I agree but the point is it’s over, it was short, and Celtic are in a downsizing disarray again. A sad sad sad mindless greedy bugger situation. No one running the club learned a thing and they don’t care. Time for me to move on I think. You only live once.

Twists n turns

Awe Naw

Not being sure your assumption was correct, that the majority only care about beating Rangers, I ran a scenario through my head.

Final League positions

Scenario 1.

1 Aberdeen
2 Hearts
3 Celtic
4. Rangers

Effect on supporters?

Scenario 2

Final League positions

1. Rangers
2. Celtic
3. Aberdeen
4. Hearts

Celtic have improved.

Effect on supporters?

Hmmmm. You’re probably correct:-)

rebus67

There seems to be a strong tone of anti-PL, anti-DD on the blog today. Perhaps it is a reaction to the tripe on another blog?

Let me outline my concerns which may be not be justified or may, in fact, become a reality.

As a business, Celtic PLC is a well-run operation, not perfect but it is stable and returns a profit. Whether PL likes it or not, BR’s term contributed impressively to that……increased value of assets; CL qualification. Without a profitable enterprise, the club would not be able to consider improving the player pool through acquisition. You can question PL and DD’s commitment to the brand, but the income statement and balance sheets do not lie(unlike those of another club!)

Now here is my concern, and it may already be happening. Corporate performance weakness in professional franchises leaves them open to being acquired by either a) a billionaire seeking a vanity project, or b) a nefarious enterprise wishing to use the club for other purposes. We have seen this happen in other countries that support the major football leagues, including England. In the latter, even clubs in the Championship have been targeted.

It is only a matter of time before attention focuses North on our league. Some might argue that this already happened with the arrival of Fergus and then DD. However, currently, there is one club in the SPL that is a natural as the prime target………weak as a viable enterprise but with a strong fan base. In addition, two of the major macro forces that determine success in football in Scotland are already favourably disposed towards that club. I refer to the governing body and the media. In short, Sevco is the ideal target for an “entrepreneur” to take over and make it the number one club in our league. Winning the league is the key to financial success in the SPL, through access to the CL. Given the current state of the playing resources at Celtic, it would not take many prime investments to knock us off our perch. It may already be happening, because I cannot see why the lights are still on at Ibrox. This nightmare future is not new, only those pulling the strings will be different. It all happened in the not too distant past.

If this happens, how can Celtic compete with them? I do not have a definitive answer to that but I do know that having a poorly run club, financially, is no basis for handling the nightmare described above.

Rebus

fan-a-tic

Celtic

Margaret McGill

Rebus67
So the justification of Lawwellism is Arab-Russo-corrupto-Sugardaddy-hunophobia?
It really is time to call it quits

Rolling Stone

@rebus67

Interesting post.

One point I would disagree with is that we are a well run club. Objectively we are given our recent endeavors both on and off the field, but the real consideration is the genesis of the recent success: is it on account of a structure which has been put in place over a period of time and allowed the club to flourish over the last 3 years or is it on account of the brilliance and revolutionary effect of one individual (BR)? I would opt for the latter.

Our turnover for the two full seasons BR was in charge nearly doubled/doubled compared to Ronny’s tenure. We had record profits whereas before we had been loss making. The success on the pitch was unprecedented. However, those in the board room did not alter the way the club was run. It was business as usual: parsimony; lack of forward planning; and misalignment between the manager’s ambitions and that of the directors.

I fully expect the “well run club” narrative to unravel over the next two years- primarily because I believe we won’t do 10IAR or if we do it will be in part because of a financial collapse across the city.

rebus67

Mags,

Balance is the theme, not justification.

Rebus

rebus67

Rolling,

I take your point. Perhaps, a better term would be “not poorly run”. I do not think that the club was run in an optimal manner but it is, at the least, in the black, which is more than can be said for our friends across the river.

All I am saying is Celtic need to be ready for the eventuality of a new Sevco, financially backed to succeed. Agreed the meter on the profitability —football success is skewed to the left. BR wanted to move it further to the right and, probably, encountered resistance. But would he have stayed to see it through….who knows!

Rebus

Awe Naw

Rebus
How do you fit Resolution 12 into that narrative? The money is being banked not so much for a rainy day but for a rainy season. When Sevco win the league again. Now they may go belly up again before a possible 9IAR or 10IAR and if that does happen. Having a few years Old Firm income in the bank will help until they are again able to compete. Sevco will always be necessary due to the TV audience. Rules have been changed so that future administration events are minimised.

BR did not really deliver in Europe neither did Delia. Neil Lennon did. Imagine how good the figures would be if we finished in a pot 2 place at Christmas. How many pot 1 and pot 2 teams would covet our players…..and we would still sell and to the EPL as that is what Celtic is and that’s what those that own it want it to be

Awe Naw
Any chance pointing me in the direction of what you have been partaking in, powerful stuff, a Pot 2 team 😉
There is even less chance this next season of us doing anything in europe, as you have said yourself, we are poised for a downward trend so there will be no net spend, not a hope then of doing anything in the CL, the europa, can’t see that either.
HH

fan-a-tic

The Exiled Tim
We are a club without a pot to piss in.
According to some.

mahe

Howdy folks,,
Apologies for my absence ,, a visitor is to blame really. I was delighted to have company but the reality was a lot harder. The fella who was once our strong leader is now a shell decimated by Ms but mentally still there even if the body has jaded badly . Was hard to swallow.

Speaking of shells what happened to our once great club ?
I seen all of Sundays results by accident on that ticker tape thing on Mothers days lunch and it sure saved me a few hours is the good news.
It shows that either Im very misplaced or they arent even first teamers really , but I had neither Bayo or Johnson even in the squad and as a matter of fact had forgotten about them altogether.
Boom Boom Boom Bayo ,, what a find this kid has proven to be eh?
I wonder where that blame will fall ? Probably on one of three easy targets,, the departed manager and two scouts.

The result does / did surprise in that I expected Neil to have them totally fired up in what was effectively in one the games he should need to pass in order to take the hotseat fulltime.
Last week I blogged about how they needed this one,, it was the money game that would bring in the season ticket money,, well that has happened .
However in the manner of the defeat we have also given our rivals a shot in the arm .
That would be the template to beat us,,and the easier that is when you are in a state of flux.
If an opposing manager were to play 4-5-1 and make that 5 a solid line that either pushes up together and defends together it becomes very hard to pass through.
Playing over that line or bypassing midfield altogether needs at least 2 up front as 1 against 4 just wont cut it.
The opposing wingbacks can also be gave permission to breach the wall of five and play above them helping out the solo striker so on attack they are hitting you with essentially a three up front and impenetrable midfield line who cover the fullbacks gaps.
Its a simple enough system and Stevie , fair play , cottoned on to the fact it would negate us.
Neil could have went two up front and long balls with supporting midfield but hand forced by squad limits he was caught out.
So in a big audition he flopped,,not good at all.
Stevie will rightfully feel he and his charges are on an upward trajectory and it also seems he can be vindicated dropping his loose canons which will further make some cream themselves.
He will look at us and next years title as there for the taking ,, I would if in his shoes .

This is where we should really see the gap in finances kick in and elevate us to a different level in the much needed clear out. Having such an amount of deadwood is plain and simple poor planning and a failure.
Instead of sitting pretty we are in danger of being caught or overtaken so if you dont spend cash now when do you spend it.
A trim and upgrade summer is required ,, and who will lead it is the biggest question of course .
These two years are going to be a hell of a ride and personally Im looking forward to it as this is kinda the end game,, put up or shut up. Ten or smell ya later.
Lets see how good our suits are at planning and reacting ( even though they shouldnt be reactive but should be proactive ) and with a huge financial advantage plus reserves that dwarf all others budgets together there should be zero excuses for failing to deliver ten ,, no excuses at all .
Hire a strong manager and back him very strongly , it makes great on field and off field business sense plus would cement this regimes legacy.
Saving the cash , hiring a local and saying no one out there , and a couple loans and a punt or two , will just be an admission its some for us, some for you ,some for us ,some for you ,some for us ,,,,,repeat ad naseum.

Mags many thanks for todays article . We are in agreement as I lay out above.
Now is the time true colours will emerge and if they choose the keep the money let them win some now game God help them . They will need his help.

Hail Hail

Jim the Tim ,, where are you pal ?

Mike in Toronto

Well run club? Just because a business makes a profit, does not necessarily make it well run. If a company makes a million dollars when it should reasonably make 100 million, I would suggest that it is not well run.

In Celtic’s case, with one of the highest attendances in Europe, it is hard to see how it would not make money. But, what I would be interested in seeing (I donk know if it has been done) is some forn of comparison/analysis of financial performance since, say 1980.

In the 80’s, Aberdeen and Dundee United were both able to compete in Europe. In the second half of the 80’s, English teams were banned from Europe. Rangers were pretty poor in Europe, until 92 or 93… around the same time that I believe the EPL financial/TV deals blew up….

Why did English football seem to overtake most countries? I gather TV renenue had a llot to do with that… but, why did TV money favour the EPL,…. as opposed to Spanish or German or Italian?

And why were Scottish teams/footbal, which provided much to English football through the 80’s,l not able to even get a piece of that?

Then, we move forward, and look at Celtic… and Celtic under PL…

have Celtic maximized footballing and revenues potentials? I dont know for certain, but given how much other countries have improved (which Scottish teams have stood still or regressed in Euroep, I would say no to the first), and given the lack of transparency, I suspec the answer to the second is also no;

If we, as DD said, NEED Rangers and the competition they bring, we probably want to be ahead of them, but not by too big a distance ….

Hence the 5WA Agreement, to keep Rangers alive? Do I think PL ever expected Celtic to win 8 in a row? No.

Just by sheer numbers, and with only 2 teams in Scotland, Celtic are going to win a certain number to trophies…

Then with Ranges imploding, we had a free run at all the trophies, and at the European money that brings… but, I never got the sense that there was a plan for Celtic …

I tend to agree that the idea was that the Old Firm would join the EPL…. but when that didn’t happen, then the idea was to join some Euro league … but when that didn’t happen, it was suck the Old Firm Teet … and when that blew up… panic… keep them alive by hook or by crook ….

when the zombies managed to screw up the life line they were thrown…. it kind of screwed up our plan (in a good way) …. so we have an extra few years and free trophies that had not been planned on ….

but now that they are competitive on the pitch, we have to readjust our thinking once more …

Looking at trends over the last 30 years… have Celtic developed the way they should have? If not, what plans are in place to address that?

Rebus67

Awe N,

Not sure what you are asking re Res12? Do you mean would it affect a takeover of Sevco? If it had found traction years ago, and financial penalties were imposed, perhaps it would postpone a takeover. Now, it is a lion with no teeth…..and an injustice never to be rectified. Let me fire it back at you. How does Res12 fit into the current picture?

Your listings of outgoing/staying players is very useful. I like that type of evidence.

Rebus

mahe

MiT,, someone recently was discussing this on here actually but the general opinion seemed to be that this new sat tv thing and hundreds of channels was perfect for the British isles due to climate. It was going to hit it off big.
The higher ups also wanted the men and sports market covered, not just ladies.
Thus it was planned to spruce up domestic stadiums and hype the crap out if the game and create the Premiership.
This meant a rival competing league like ours gets scraps as it could threaten the status quo and the home intentionals were scrapped so the Brits don’t get beaten.
We are geographical losers in a real sense.
Hope all good buddy.
Hail Hail

bada bing1

Flannagan banned for 2 matches, Clancy should get longer,shitebag

Peter Law ell bonus at £2m ÷ 52 was = £38,461. This would pay wages for star signing, or two at £19k or 3 at £12k+. That would make a big difference in getting new players in. Surely Pete you can do it, h
go on you know you wanna ???

mahe

Mario,,good to see you on and hope alls well Sir!
The fact he didn’t take the bonus that year shows a bit of touch with the world,,may we all pray there’s a bit more coming soon.
I want the three key positions strengthened at least,,back middle upfront.
No excuses, , find a goof strong candidate and back him properly.
Hail Hail.

Rebus67

MIT,

You raise so many issues that I cannot respond to them all. I take your point on “well run”. It is the difference between optimising and satisficing. Celtic do the latter. Remember that the same options that were open to Celtic were also open to Rangers. Their choices and the aftermath are clear. I think we can hold our heads high compared to them.

We do not need a deep analysis to figure out why English football prospered and Scottish did not. The answer is money and money through population size. England is 10x bigger than Scotia. Add in the fact that Murdoch was operating in England and needed to boost his acquisition, Sky and there you have the answer to “Why England”. It is no accident that the top leagues are situated in large population countries.

The gravy train is illustrated by clubs such as Swansea, Cardiff. Would these clubs have had the same finances if they played in a Welsh league?

I freely confess to knowing nothing about the 5 WA nor the rationale behind it, so I cannot respond on it.

I agree that Celtic is weak in many strategic areas, including investment in players, succession planning both managerially and on the field, communications with fans, and responding to governance issues. Perhaps, this is so because of limited benchmarking to Sevco and the Scottish game. Without getting access to the club, I cannot diagnose the issues.

Mags, do not go. Do not leave the blog and do not give up your allegiance to the club. We have differing views upon occasion but you keep many on here honest, including me.

Finally, the blog is taking off seriously now. Let’s hope it stays true to its origins as it expands.

Rebus

Rebus67

Just remind me. Why are some posts buff coloured?

Type of device? Apple vs PC?

Rebus

mahe, all is well thanks. My mistake I thought that Peter had received his bonus, good to see that he didn’t. I agree with your assessment re: player recruitment.

Rolling Stone

@ MAHE- May 14, 2019 5:04 pm

I think the bonus was due to be paid in arrears, so it was not on account of altruism that Pedro didn’t pick up the bonus straight away.

Twists n turns

Bhoys
I’m not in the know. I have no inside information. No contacts. No third cousins who clean Peter Lawell’s windaes. I don’t even know Owen Coyle’s granny unlike everyone else.

So this is sheer rumour.

Chatting to my son earlier on WhatsApp he indicated the Rafa story was a goer.

I replied to forget it . Not happening.

He phoned me to explain that in his job, HE , was talking to someone who informed him the story wasn’t bull and went into some detail.

So I don’t know.

Fanciful? Fantasy?

Probably….but just relating the story.

Something to hang on to . A wee bit of hope can never be a bad thing.

Assuming you fancy Rafa as manager in the first place of course .

I’d read somewhere he was ready to sign a contract with the Toon. Don’t know if he did?

big packy

hi ghuys hope you are all well, mike in Toronto makes some good points as he always does, are we a well run club no idea, could we be a better run club yes, we have one of the biggest supports in Europe, waiting lists for season tickets which some other teams would love to have, im convinced we need a shake up at boardroom level, peter has been ceo in my opinion for too long ,whats the saying familiarity breeds contempt any thoughts.hh.