Twist’s N Turn’s Ascot Naps

ASCOT WEEK – DAY 1
If any of you are unsure of the meaning of the term “ dosage index” , please check it out on Wiki if you feel the need.
This information is being passed to me from a team of very well regarded individuals. I’m part of a “ proofing “ team if you like. This is not your typical “ a nods as good as a wink “ type of ‘tip’
These guys are knowledgeable. They do have stable access. They do have gallop reports, and they do have a number of vg contacts within the horse racing industry. That I can guarantee is true and I can also guarantee these guys make their living from their skills and knowledge.
This is the first time I’ve had access to this and out of respect to the people sending me it I wouldn’t normally post this on an open forum. It would be unfair. As I say though, it is free of charge this week so I don’t mind. I’m not taking business away from them.
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Race 1.
2.30 Queen Anne Stakes
The straight mile at Ascot does not confer the usual advantage for prominent/front runners. Last year’s result highlights this broader statistic well as Accidental Agent traded at 500 on the exchanges in running before rallying from the back quartile of the field to win. The most likely pace setters here are probably Matterhorn and Laurens.
DREAM CASTLE has been working well (albeit with inferior horses such as Global Heat and Leaders Legacy who are a minimum of a stone behind him in ability). However, you can expect to see him travel well through the race. It would be a surprise if he was good enough to win and the race would need to be a sub-standard renewal.
LE BRIVIDO undoubtedly had a poor draw, raced on the unfavoured part of the track and was hampered at a vital stage at Newbury in the Lockinge last time out. This is only the 8th run of his career and only the 3rd for Aiden O’Brien. Some progression remains plausible. Those closest to Ballydoyle say that Le Brivido has come out of the Newbury race well.
MUSTASHRY is another very good work horse at home. He is often pitted against staying types such as Crystal King, but nevertheless he had worked as if he had progressed, at the age of 6, prior to winning the Lockinge. The performance ratings suggest that if he were to reproduce his Newbury run, then that level would have been enough to win every Queen Anne Stakes in the past 5 years. That makes his price potentially appealing. On the flipside, that run was the first time in 17 starts he had produced such a number.
LAURENS was flagged up to me during the Spring as a filly that had improved in physique and looks since last year. She was reportedly 95% fit for the Lockinge and lost 11 kilos in weight after the race. She has improved in terms of fitness for that run and so it is reasonable to expect her to finish closer to Mustashry than she did at Newbury.
LORD GLITTERS disappointed in the Newbury race but does reserve his best for this course and is reported in good form by the stable. He ran well in this race last year, but is another year older.
This looks a trappy opening race, not least because it could be a sub-standard year, full of exposed horses. In addition, I am not receiving any strong information that is unknown to the market. LE BRIVIDO is one of the few that could have some progression yet to be tapped and if you can secure 4 places, has each-way merit

3.05 Coventry Stakes
ARIZONA looks an obvious favourite. Aiden O’Brien has an outstanding record with his 2yo’s at this meeting over 6f+ (8/42 with a +59 profit). Arizona is a son of No Nay Never (who is himself a son of Scat Daddy, who has a great record with his progeny at Ascot…74% surpass their previous best rating) and is bred to appreciate Ascot’s stiff 6f at this stage of his career. His dosage numbers are 3-3-8-2-0….he will probably prove best at a mile next season and so 6f in the June of his juvenile year is fine. His win last time out was achieved in a fast time and I am told that he has come out of that race well and will progress. His draw in 3 could be a potential negative.
From the same stable, FORT MEYERS has a much stouter pedigree, with a dosage index of 0.85 and a centre of distribution of 0.0. He will be a 10f+ horse in time and this would need to be a race where there was a pace collapse for him to excel. He is held in regard though and you can expect to see him staying on well, though unlikely to quite have the pace to win a Coventry if it is up to scratch.
As with every year, the winner of the Coventry will surpass their previous best effort to win this race. Therefore this makes it a bit of a guessing game. Estimating who will improve the most is difficult without having some information on every runner, which is, of course, not possible. One whom I have got some background on is MAXI BOY who works well with the stable’s other Royal Ascot possibles and who impressed Ryan Moore when winning on him last time out. His trainer believes he will prove better later this year at 7f+ and his dosage of 4-3-11-3-1, suggests this could be the case.
This race is full of February/March foals (the most mature) who have won impressively last time out and are open to progression. It would take really strong information for me to recommend a meaningful bet.

3.40 King’s Stand
Prominent racers are very much favoured over this sprint trip.
BATTAASH is the outstanding sprinter in terms of raw ability. He has performance ratings that would win this race in 4 of the last 5 years. If he runs to form, it is unlikely anything else in this field can win. The doubt is the horse’s temperament and consistency. However, he looks a simple horse to read…..he has run 11 times since 2017….and the only times he has been beaten is when he has either got worked up and sweated beforehand, as he has done twice at York, or, when he has used excessive early pace and tried to make all, as he did at Ascot and Longchamp. Avoid those 2 scenarios, and Battaash can run to a level that the others cannot match. Prior to his win at Haydock, I was told that Battaash had calmed down over the Winter and was looking a happier horse and becoming more tractable in his work. This information was born out by his performance at the Lancashire track. It could be that he has turned a corner. He has drawn stall 12 here, which may be a nuisance as he doesn’t have any speed around him. To avoid him seeing daylight, he will have to switch a little and that could mean some lost ground/impetus if he gets caught behind midfield/hold up horses. That aside, the optimal strategy here is to see how he takes the preliminaries and back him only if all seems well. You may (or may not?) forgo a little bit of price, but it is clear that 7/4 about a calm Battaash is better value than 2/1 about a worked up Battaash.
SERGEI PROKOFIEV is another son of Scat Daddy with exceptionally fast dosage numbers of 6-6-7-1-0…dosage index of 3.44 and a centre of distribution of 0.85. This race has been the plan all Winter and his run in the Palace House at Newmarket was merely a prep and some experience against older horses over the minimum trip. Although he was hardly lightly raced as a juvenile, he was messed about a bit with different running plans (often brought about by his propensity to pull). By the Autumn however, connections were happy he had been taught to settle and he produced a complete race in the Group 3 he landed at Newmarket. A fast pace here will suit him ideally and granted that, he could be finishing as fast as any other horse based on sectional analysis. 8/1 looks reasonable each way value if 4 places can be secured. Mathematically, less so if only 3 places offered.

4.20 St James Palace Stakes
Hold Up horses can often struggle on the round course here, especially if the pace is not a strong one.
BELL ROCK was highlighted to me during the Spring. His work was such that the plan was to run in the Craven prior to the Guineas. Unfortunately he met with a minor setback and that plan was abandoned. As soon as Bell Rock recovered, plan “b” was hatched, to win the Heron Stakes and then run in this race. Bell Rock was too fresh in the Sandown race and pulled his chance away behind King Of Comedy. Andrew Balding had all but decided to forget this race, but Bell Rock has worked well again and persuaded his trainer to let him run. It is a leap of faith in terms of the form-book, but Bell Rock is certainly not a 100/1 shot. This doesn’t look a vintage renewal of the 3yo’s 1m Group 1.
Only PHOENIX OF SPAIN has achieved a rating that is similar to previous winners. His Curragh run would have won this race twice in the past 5 years if repeated. He is a scopey horse who always looked likely to be better as a 3yo. He is a front-runner and so tactics are relatively simple and he looks progressive. I am told he lost little weight after Ireland and has come out of the race well. His dosage index of 1.4 and centre of distribution of 0.17 offer encouragement because they suggest that if something takes him on for the lead and makes it a test of stamina, then he should be equipped.
John Gosden has to be respected and runs two. TOO DARN HOT was the star juvenile, but he was small as a 2yo and hasn’t grown much. His dosage of 0.75…-0.07…points to stamina and indeed he is a brother to the middle distance pair, So Mi Dar and Lah Ti Dar. He might struggle in this race if it is slowly run and turns into a 2f sprint once they enter the straight. That said, I am told that tomorrow is the best shape that Too Darn Hot has been in all year.
KING OF COMEDY was recommended to me for the Heron Stakes on the back of some excellent homework with Lord North. He is a very good work horse at home, but does display temperament on the course. At Sandown he had to be dismounted and walked to the start. His dosage suggests 8f is likely to be his optimum.

Twists own pick’s
2.30 1 e/w Le BRIVIDO @ 13/2 Boyles, 6/1 Lads, Betfair, BetVic, PP, BlackType, 888, Spx (4 places),
3.40 4 BATTAASH @ 7/4+ (if calm during prelims). No bet if sweating or worked up.
1 e/w SERGEI PROFOKIEV @ 9/1 Skybet (4 places) or 11/1 Hills, Unibet (3 places)
4.20 0.5 e/w BELL ROCK @ 100/1 Betfair, Paddy Power
1 PHOENIX OF SPAIN @ 9/4 Lads, Unibet, Black Type

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Twists n turns

Tomorrow is a day to play it cagey. There’ll be better to come later in the week.

mahe

Twists ,,
Many Many thanks.
Our pal might well call a lazy bassa for an easy article grab but hey, ,we earned a break sometimes right 😉
Hail Hail

Twists n turns

Haha

He’ll be hunting you down Mahe. Get on one of these…?????

Twists n turns

I quite like Time to Study in the 5pm. Extremely well handicapped and 16/1 is a low risk each way bet. His mark has tumbled to one whereby if he was to find his old self he’d win

IF?

mahe

The no online gambling from certain States law was just successgully defeated in the highest courts and as such I could finally open an account if I wished.
Choices are taken for granted sometimes.
Remember the no off licence on a Sunday rule ? Probably my fav day to have a few and it was discouraged even with minimal Bar hours.
Sky sports and the Super Sundays put and end to that once and for all and I’m sure those big days like i mention just rake in the cash for the drinks trade UK wide.
In fairness the GAA did very well out of that rule if I recall.
Hail Hail

Margaret McGill

There will be no net spend this summer
There will be no purging of Scottish football
There will be no justice nor fairness
There will be no CL
There will be no 10iar the survival of the OF depends on it.
Only continuous cheating
Take it up the arse Bhoys.

Margaret McGill
Margaret McGill

TWISTSNTURNS

Some fascinating stuff in there,mate. Grateful thanks,in advance!

Interesting sire,Scat Daddy. Probably best known for siring sprinters like Lady Aurelia and Caravaggio,yet just before he kicks the bucket he churns out Triple Crown winner,Justify. Makes a bit of a mockery of breeding comparisons.

A bit like Frankel-whose best distance was a mile-being a full brother to Noble Mission,G1 winner at 12f before Henry Cecil saw the light and dropped it to 10f. Yet both by Galileo out of a sprinter who herself had middle distance breeding. Who’d be a bloodstock agent?

MAGS 114

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bVzv9GyAf34

Loved GSH,fantastic musician. But he was wrong about the revolution. Well,it wasn’t televised but mainly because it didn’t happen!

Hope you’re wrong too about the ten.

Twists n turns

CL draw today ( matches on 9th & 10th July and 16th & 17th July)

* seeded sides
Group 1

Astana (KAZ)*
Ludogorets (BUL)*
Crvena zvezda (SRB)*
Shkëndija (MKD)*
AIK (SWE)*
Sūduva (LTU)
CFR Cluj (ROU)
Ferencváros (HUN)
Nõmme Kalju (EST)
Ararat-Armenia (ARM)

Group 2

Celtic (SCO)*
Qarabağ (AZE)*
Sheriff Tiraspol (MDA)*
F91 Dudelange (LUX)*
Slovan Bratislava (SVK)*
Valletta (MLT)
Sarajevo (BIH)
Sutjeska (MNE)
Partizani (ALB)
Saburtalo (GEO)

Group 3

BATE Borisov (BLR)*
Maribor (SVN)*
Rosenborg (NOR)*
HJK Helsinki (FIN)*
Dundalk (IRL)*
The New Saints (WAL)*
Winners of the preliminary round
Piast Gliwice (POL)
Valur Reykjavík (ISL)
Linfield (NIR)
HB Tórshavn (FRO)
Riga (LVA)

Draw procedure

For each group, two pots are prepared, one for the seeded teams and the other for the unseeded teams.
For each group, the balls containing the names of the seeded teams will be placed in one bowl and the balls containing the names of the unseeded teams will be put into another bowl. One ball will be taken from each bowl and placed in a large empty bowl in the middle, where they will be shuffled. The first team drawn will play its first match at home against the second team drawn.

The same procedure is carried out with the remaining balls to complete all the pairings of the first group and then repeated to determine the pairings for the second and the third groups.
Clubs’ coefficientsare now determined EITHER by the sum of all points won in the previous five years OR by the association coefficient over the same period – WHICHEVER IS THE HIGHER (under a new system introduced for 2018/19 onwards).

Twists n turns

So the side Celtic will play shall come from

Valletta (MLT)
Sarajevo (BIH)
Sutjeska (MNE)
Partizani (ALB)
Saburtalo (GEO)

Twists n turns

Bobby
I’ll have my own “ numbers based” selection (s) ready by about 11am and will post it / them around then.

TWISTSNTURNS

Good man! At least the ground has taken a turn for the better. Up until about Sunday,I was getting worried!!!

TWISTSNTURNS

I think both us and the huns can be drawn against teams from Malta. In which case,I hope UEFA ensure that we are not there at the same time.

PORCIERTO

Thanks Twists. My son is a keen horsey man, so I’ll let him know about this. I remember placing my first bet in Thornliebank with a few friends, we’d be about 16. They had done it before, obviously we had to ask older guys to place the bets. My dad only bet when we were on our holidays in the Isle of Bute, but he would relate stories to us about the punters in the pub he managed, The Viceroy at Paisley Road Toll, on how they would lose their pay and more on a Friday. My horse got beat, by the way its name was Wabash :), and the feeling of how futile the whole thing was and the stories in my head meant that was why I very rarely gamble on horses. But hey, one mans meat is another mans poison. I went on though to become rather dependent on something else, which I sorted 34yrs ago, so maybe I was just searching for my Achilles heel :)) Thanks again Twists por cierto.

big packy

TWISTS AND TURNS,some great info there on the nags, well done for posting it,I only ever bet on the grand national, Aintree is only 20 minutes away from me, been there many times and came back skint??

Por cierto

Moderators: Thank you ? por cierto.

Careful,folks. That’s a few times some of you have signed in under your real names. Just check underneath your post to make sure the correct name is in the box.

And aye,it’s caught me out too.

Twists n turns

Bobby
If I ever make the mistake of leaving my real name on the site, please correct it for me. It could lead to some issues for me if my name was showing.

Thanks in advance

Yours sincerely

Peter L.

Twists n turns

Oops. ?

big packy

TWISTY ??

Morning Dermott………oops, sorry, Packy.

TWISTSNTURNS

I was about to say that I’d already done that for you once,till I saw your sign off!

Very good.

Btw,I seem to be losing posts on occasion. I don’t have a great internet-I’ve lost some bloody articles in the past too! Anyone else having similar problems? I honestly hope it is just me,btw.

Twists n turns

No issues here Bobby.

All good

bada bing1

Platini arrested over Qatar World Cup

Twists n turns

Right I need to head out for an hour or two. Bought a caravan at Seton Sands up on the golf course bit. Fed up paying for hotels when I’m at Musselburgh Racing.

Gotta go and get a few bits n pieces for it.

Only bought it last week and already my kids and grandkids have commandeered it for all of October. How did that happen ?

Corkcelt

His name is not Bobby.

Mike in Toronto, I see there has been a shooting in the city centre, thankfully no one seriously injured. A victory parade for the Toronto Raptors. 2 million people there! My goodness basketball must be very popular in your neck of the woods.

CORKCELT

Most people know that,but that is the moniker I go by.

FWIW,I’m reliably informed by a good friend of Bobby Jr,that my moniker brought a smile to Mrs Murdoch’s face when it was brought to her attention. She knew what it referred to. And that fact made me smile too.

Hope you’re good,me oul’ mucker. It’s great to see you on here. And honestly,GORDON64 and VOGUEPUNTER really are best pals! Along with the likes of ROYCROPPIE and BADABING,there’s about eight metres of them,near enough.

We call them The Rutherglen Massive!!!

BADABING

Platini arrested? Hmmmm,maybe corrupt officials should stop taking bribes in dollars. Leaves them wide open to US laws on that. RICO legislation,though I could be wrong.

Take the money in good old British Pounds. We don’t bother our arse how you got them.

Sips

TWIST’S N TURNS…

Don’t usually punt on the Gee gees but after reading your blog it’s put me in the notion.

Like yourself my da is a number cruncher, he still adds up in shillings in his head, he was the go to man in barr & strouds when anybodys line stoated.
He’s 82 now and will be on his way to put his bets on. HH

SIPS

A lass I lived with in the 80s told me the shortcut for accumulators. I know to the penny what any line adds up to.

Pity she never taught me how to pick the bloody horses in the first place!

Mike

It should be Petrie that is arrested, he could share a cell with Platini. Chairman of the SFA licencing committee 2011 that granted a licence to “Rangers” to enter the 2011-12 C.L. qualifiers, a part of the funny fingered brigade who’s fingerprints are all over the 5way agreement. A fud that denied his own Hibs support a voice to object to the cheating, despite having two fan representatives on the Hibernian board. Putrid smells emanate from the President of the SFA. Shame on Scottish football governance that allowed him to become President. I simply cannot understand why Lawwell who wrote to Regan and copied in the FIFA president Gianni Infantino in 2012, to complain about the EBT payments and there effect on Scottish football, why he called for a Judicial Revue in 2017 to investigate, the illegal payments,we know that Regan said that he was “comfortable” with the SFA’s actions yet three months later got the Compliance Officer to investigate (why are we still waiting and why involve CAS, when this is only SFA related) and yet he is stalling on Res.12. Why? what changed his view, or did it? that he felt unable to back the four men who only seek the truth and like all of us want the cheating called out and an honest game implemented. Be it internal politics or more likely the fear of the truth being exposed. It was estimated that thirteen trophies was lost to the cheats. I want a judge led enquiry conducted, until that happens, the smell of putrefaction will remain.

Twists n turns

Ascot 3.40

2/1 Battaash, 3/1 Blue Point, 7/1 Sergei Prokofiev
8/1 Mabs Cross, 10/1 Imprimis, 14/1 Soldier’s Call
16/1 Equilateral, 20/1 Fairyland, 20/1 Houtzen,
25/1 Signora Cabello, 33/1 Judicial, 50/1 Enzo’s Lad.

King’s Stand Stakes 5f

Only 12 runners
Unusually small field this year
Last years 1st 2nd 3rd all run

2018 Race

1st Blue Point
2nd Battash
3rd Mabs Cross

All 3 have chances again

BATTASH is drawn 12 of 12
BLUE POINT is drawn 1 of 12

The Market Leaders
Come from the widest stalls

When I looked at this Ante Post
Noticed quite a lot of 3 year olds
4 of the 12 runners are this age

SERGEI PROKOFIEV is one
Very fast and very talented horse
But I can not match him to a winner
More exposed than past 3yo winners
Don’t see a strong enough case
Certainly would not rule him out
But the older horses are stronger
They also have better numbers too

SOLDIERS CALL is another 3yo
Not safe enough with 1 run this year
Those types very rarely win this

BATTASH has 1 run this season

Past winners of this race
Had the following races
Since January 1st that year

2 1 2 2 3 4 4 8 3 4 3 3 3 3
3 4 0 2 2 4 3 3 3 2 2 0 0 3

Only the Australian 3yo (Lady Aurelia)
Has won this on the back of 1 run that year
BATTASH is the best horse though
But 1 run this year and Stall 12
Not to mention his inconsistency
This horse has failed many times
Beaten at 11/10 4/5 9/4 since 2018
Would put me off selecting him to win
The sensible option is make him a saver

BLUE POINT has 80 days off
That is a worrying absence
He fails Generic Statistic 2 + 3

HOUTZEN is rejected as a 4yo filly
She fails Generic Statistic 2 + 3 + 6 + 8

EQUILATERAL could pop up
But would rather not have a 4yo
He will also be his stables 2nd string

IMPRIMIS is an Australian raider
Could not rule her out of winning

MABS CROSS is interesting
Especially on ground that’s drying
She was 3rd in last years race
But she was a 4yo filly last year
This profile applies to him

Horses Aged 4-5-6
Coming from the Temple Stakes
Over 8 career starts
Beaten under 6 lengths there
Between 2-3 runs that season
Had a useful 7-30 record
They won the race in these years
1998 2001 2010 2011 2013 2015 2016
MABS CROSS has this profile

As an older horse this year
Going to select him as a win bet
Save on Battash as the class horse

Twists n turns

His name is not Bobby.

????

Twists n turns

My names not twists n turns?

What am I missing here?

Awe Naw

Name Pos Year sold too Appear Goals
ELLIOT Barry “F” “96-97″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Dundee” “1” 0 ” Loan1:1998/99 Clydebank 4 2″
FOTHERINGHAM Mark “M” “99-01″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Dundee” “4” 0
McCOLLIGAN Brian “M” “99-00″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Clydebank” “1” 0 ” Loan1:2000/01 Stenhousemuir 12 1″
CREANEY Gerry “F” “89-94″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Portsmouth” “112” 36
HANNAH Bobby “IF””75-76″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Ayr United” “2” 0
McCARRISON Dugald “F” “87-93″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Kilmarnock” “4” 1 ” Loan1:1991/92 Darlington 5 2″
TRAYNOR John “FB””88-89″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Clydebank” “4” 0
BURCHILL Mark “F” “98-01″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Portsmouth” “51” 21 ” Loan1:2000/01 Birmingham City 13 4″ ” Loan2:2000/01 Ipswich Town 7 1″
NICHOLAS Charlie(1st_spell) “F” “80-83″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Arsenal” “74” 48
McCONDICHIE Andy “G” “98-99″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Raith Rovers” “1” 0 ” Loan1:1997/98 Hamilton Academical 5 0″
COYLE Ronnie “CD””84-86″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Middlesbrough” “2” 0 ” Loan1:1986/87 Clyde 8 0″
McGUIRE Doug “W” “86-88″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Coventry City” “2” 0 ” Loan1:1987/88 Dumbarton 3 0″ ” Loan2:1987/88 Sunderland 1 0″
WHYTE Derek “CD””85-93″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Middlesbrough” “215” 7
McBRIDE John Paul “M” “96-99″ ” Celtic B.C.” “St. Johnstone” “3” 0
KERR Stewart “G” “96-00″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Wigan Athletic” “34” 0 ” Loan1:1994/95 Brighton 2 0″
GRANT Peter “M” “83-97″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Norwich City” “363” 15
CRAINEY Stephen “FB””99-04″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Southampton” “41” 0 ” ”
KELLY Paddy “FB””96-97″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Newcastle United” “1” 0
McCANN Ryan “M” “99-00″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Hartlepool United” “1” 0 ” Loan1:2001/02 St. Mirren 1 0″ ” Loan2:2002/03 St. Johnstone 17 3″
McINALLY Jim “FB””82-83″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Nottingham Forest” “1” 0 ” Loan1:1983/84 Dundee 11 2″
MATHIE Alex “F” “88-91″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Greenock Morton” “11” 0
McNALLY Mark “D” “90-95″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Southend United” “123” 3
REID Mark “FB””80-85″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Charlton Athletic” “124” 5
ANTHONY Marc “M” “96-97″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Berwick Rangers” “2” 0 ” Loan1:1998/99 Clydebank 13 1″
BRITTON Gerry “F” “90-91″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Partick Thistle” “2” 0 ” Loan1:1991/92 Reading 2 0″
SHEPHERD Tony “M” “85-88″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Carlisle United” “28” 2 ” Loan1:1988/89 Bristol City 3 0″
SMITH Jamie “M” “00-04″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Den Haag (Holland)” “42” 2 ” Loan1:1999/2000 Livingston 6 1″
AITKEN Roy “D/M””75-90″” Celtic B.C.” “Newcastle United” “483” 40 ” ”
McSTAY Paul “M” “81-97″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Retired (injury)” “514” 57
ELLIOT Dave “W” “88-90″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Partick Thistle” “6” 0
McSTAY Willie “FB””82-87″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Huddersfield Town” “67” 2
FULTON Steve “M” “88-93″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Bolton Wanderers” “74” 2
RITCHIE Andy “M” “73-76″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Greenock Morton” “9” 1
DONNELLY Simon “M” “93-99″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Sheffield Wednesday” “146” 30
CRAINIE Danny “W” “81-84″ ” Celtic B.C.” “Wolverhampton Wanderers” “25” 7 ” “

TWISTSNTURNS

That’s the difficulty with monikers and real names,mate. CORKCELT always refers to me as BMCUWP or Mick,usually the latter. Others,Bobby. Others still,well,you can guess. I’ve been called worse! If ever CORKY,you and me coincide our travelling arrangements,you’ll love him. Diamond fella.

And I’m a good judge,as you know!

I’ve picked MABS CROSS too,btw. I think it’s the best horse in the race with a decent draw. Though the fields aren’t that big,and good ground usually negates the bias in small fields.

Going for Laurens in the earlier race,similar reasons. Not telling you my other two,because if those two win plus the two halfway fancied ones,I won’t be talking to the like of you in future,thank you very much!!!!

AWENAW

I thought NOT THE VIEW had cancelled They Embarrassed The Hoops?

Awe Naw

Bobby,

just a wee selection of some of the players that came through the B.C

feel free to add

Twists n turns

Hmmm just responded but post missing.
Mick, was just saying I’m happy to use your Sunday name. I thought folks didn’t like using real names but if your good with it then good for me too.

I also said I’m sure Corkcelt is a diamond. I genuinely didn’t know why I was being pulled up for using Bobby?

All good though ????

TWISTSNTURNS

Get the bets on,old bean. I’m saving up for a couple of obvious ones and a couple of loud handicappers.

It’s the rules at Ascot,apparently.

Now,to figure out which ones they are…

Rebus67

The Turnbull Saga:

Reports from the reliable source, the Sun suggest that the transfer is back on?

Frankly, I no longer care. Henderson, like his brother, has not been given a chance and the arrival of the Bull will only inhibit that. This move is a business investment not a football strategy. The nature of it only tees up the likelihood of further trouble down the line from the Bull’s team.

Early days in the window, yet, but I fear our targeting will be much more localised this time. Lenny is an SPL manager…not a bad one, but not a great one either. Still, if he plunders the SPL and is able to produce a team that is greater than the sum of its parts, he will achieve his main objective, the league. If he does not win the league, he will be gone by the end of the season. Heck, he may be gone even if he wins the league!

Stevie Clark has a year to set the heather on fire and then we shall see.

Crystal Ball CSC

Rebus

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FK Sarajevo it is

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First leg at CP on 9th or 10th July

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No walkover but we would be strong favourites I’d think. Get 3 at CP and finish the tie ….

fan-a-tic

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Your post stating get 3 at Celtic park and finish tie brought back memories of Kayal’s debut against Utrecht.
We were in the ascendency and Kayal was looking fantastic when Neil’s caution overtook logic and we shut the game down at 2-0 up.
Was strange as we were completely dominant and they looked spent.
The result gave them hope and in the return leg we capitulated to a 4-0 away loss to a team who were no better than average.

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Not a good day on the tipping front I’m afraid. Hey ho…. tomorrow’s another day amigos ?

Corkcelt

Twists & Turns, Just read back wasn’t pulling you up at all re calling the Boss, Bobby. There was a general bit of harmless silliness going on about real names & monikers and my post was meant in that spirit.

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