Tommy’s People and Cause

“ When you pull on that jersey you’re not just playing for a football club, you’re playing for a people and a cause “

Upon reflection it’s easy to see why many of our fathers chose to bring us into the Celtic family and become a part of it.
If we were to say the average poster was 50/60 years old , that would place many fathers being born roughly in the 40’s and 50’s.
They would have witnessed and been heavily impacted by the two major Celtic events of the second half of the last century.
And thus it would have seemed right , just , and natural that they would pass on their great love to many of us.
After first witnessing the beast slayed and football win in Lisbon the next generations magic moment was clearly the Centenary double ,, lead by none other than Captain fantastic himself.
When coupled with the fact it was mostly local characters that played for the club while hitting those heights ,it served only to reinforce the faithful’s love of the club .
Its fairytale stuff that Hollywood would probably say looks too fake , could never happen forget it.
And every single one of those dad’s would have seen nothing wrong in passing the team on, how could they not when people like Mr Celtic himself Tommy was saying lines like the one quoted above.
Yes its a different day and time but just look at the crowd in this video please,,the sheer joy and ecstasy being released. Notice also how Tommy points out to someone he will be up to visit them in hospital soon live on telly!


There’s an eruption of pride and love in song being flung towards their heroes by the faithful who feel privileged to have beheld such a historic feat with their own eyes.
So like I say I get it ,, I get why this club was passed onto us , I really do.

But hand on heart I dont know if Tommy would see a cause anymore .
Theres still some homegrown around aye but not enough to brag about.
And that cause ,, what exactly was it ?
It was always standing up in the face of adversity,, it was that when we march together we are stronger than anyone else ,, it was we will overcome bad odds together to succeed.
And essentially it seemed he was saying we players actually NEED you the fans !.
Can we honestly say any of that is true these days as it clearly was before ?
Many are as far away from the feeling the faithful had that glorious day as its possible to be.
Season tickets bought yet unhappy,, what would Tommy have said to that ?
Just yesterday I was telling a poster I will be sitting in the bar around the corner and no, I dont wanna attend thanks. What would he make of that decision?

Each and everyone of us will view the club a little differently and how much love is there or not will again come down to the individual .
We are faced with a decision many of us didn’t want to face and didn’t expect to , and our dads certainly didn’t think we would face it but here we are.
WE are now today’s dad’s and that decision to pass this team on or not is a battle taking place right now in hearts and minds across the globe.
If we felt like Tommy did that day there would be no decision to make .
We need to somehow get back to a people and a cause united ,, or Tommys great club will wilt and fade away.
We owe to the great man himself to at least try to get back on track somehow.

To do whatever needs doing to make it right like he would have done.
We all owe him that much.

And more. Much more.
Rest in Peace Tommy. You’ll Never Walk Alone.

Join the Sentinels and speak your mind. Unity is strength. Speak up for a better club before its too late.
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Twists n turns
June 28, 2019 5:52 am

Thoroughly enjoyed reading that. Great summation of how a lot of us will be feeling. Thanks Mahe.

Where we differ Mahe is in respect of attending. You clearly state you’ll be in the pub and you don’t want to be there.
As you’ll know from previous correspondence I’ve been fighting a battle with myself for weeks now.

Initially I didn’t renew. For the same reasons as yourself I think it’s safe to say. Found myself getting angrier and angrier at the lack of a coherent plan to take us back to respectability in Europe. A plan to at least try. Deadline approached for renewal, and I didn’t renew.

Felt great………….. for about one day. The next morning I was thinking differently.

You see, when I was angry I was angry at the suits. I’m no Alan Sugar don’t get me wrong, but from a business perspective, I just know it can and should be so much better.

Next morning though, when the realisation that I’m not going to see the hoops play live sunk in, it was the team I kept thinking about now. Not the suits. What am I going to do now? It’s been part of my life for half a century plus. Golf? Running? Swimming? All the things I thought I could add to my pastime list to replace going to the matches?

I found myself reverting back to anger at the suits. “ you’ve stopped me seeing Celtic”

In truth they hadn’t. I had done that myself. Already my wife had noticed I was regretting it. Without me saying a word. When you’ve been with someone 40 years plus, they know you as well as you know yourself. Even though I wasn’t saying to her that it was about Celtic, she knew why I seemed distracted.

Without me saying a word, she’d say
“ oh, I was just thinking, the boys are all on holiday in September and October. You’ll can take their tickets eh?”

So she knew, and I knew, I was seriously regretting my decision.

It just so happened that I’d tried to get Director box seats a couple of times over the last few years but the list is too long. Nigh on impossible. However a business contact who has contacts at CP called me to tell me he might have got me a table for 4 and seats in the director boxes if I’m interested?

Oh I’m interested……. I think? The missus, immediately she heard this, was all over it. “ I think you should take them”

Her rationale has undoubtedly more to do with her having witnessed my changing mood from the minute I gave my seat up than anything else, and for 2 weeks now all I’ve done is pondered the decision.

Time is fast running out though. I need to make up my mind soon, within 5 days to be exact.

Only Celtic can do this to you. It’s ironic that I gave up a £550 seat on a point of principle, and I’m now considering a far bigger outlay. It’s not the money though is it? It’s going back to my original point. Or Mahe’s point to be exact.

“ I don’t want to be there”

The truth is that I DO want to be there. I suspect you do too Mahe. It’s the suits we don’t want to be there.

Having written all of this what is my feeling on whether I’ll take up the seats?

99% that I’ll take them. Probably also 99% that I’ll be sitting watching us getting our backsides handed to us on a plate in Europe and thinking ….. “ I’m not ******** buying these seats next year.

………and so the dance goes on……

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 7:16 am

MAHE

I support Celtic FC,and have done for over half a century. Nothing and no-one has ever come close to preventing that. Like you,my initial love of the club came via my Dad,and his via his Dad before that.

Murray’s money madness couldn’t prevent it,the banks nearly foreclosing on the club because of previous board incompetence and naivety couldn’t either. Nor could having to watch heartwrenching defeats or mindbending player purchases.

I’m sure as f..k not gonna let my contempt for the current board succeed where all else has failed.

TWISTSNTURNS

It’s your choice,oul’ son.

You must choose what is right for you. You’re getting no help from me!!!

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 7:27 am

What another excellent blog, Sir.

Many thanks to all for the welcomes in previous thread. I’ve special warmth for TET and Twists n Turns. Two gentlemen who regularly echo my thoughts, or better, make me think a bit more deeply.

My concern is that I never feel there’s anything i can add to the discussion at this stage.

But that’s the sign of healthy discussions!

BMCUW, precious moniker was FFM. My facetious attempt at a new blog name has failed again ??

I’m only getting back in touch as me and my hun pal need a place to stay down London way at the end of July ?

Love to all. Thank feck there’s a proper Celtic forum about again!!!!

HH

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 7:45 am

Hi,M.

How’s trix? Not heard from you in ages,mate-good to know you are still alive!!!

Wee hoot planned for 21/9 and you’d better be there. Or I’ll cry and be late for my train.

On whic,mail me re London. Believe it or not,a return to London off-peak is £52 from Swindon. You can do it for £5.40 each way from Oxford,and I know a good B&B about 400 yards from the station.

Cosy corner bhoy
June 28, 2019 7:46 am

Good article and possibly even better post to start the day!
I am,as is well known,a member of the Happy Clapper section of the support albeit the Happy part is somewhat subdued these days,but the non-renewal position is one I could never take.
Following Celtic for 76 years probably does that but I don’t (I think!) bury my head in the sand with regard to transfer business,and until Celts for Change the only suit I even heard of was Sir Robert Kelly.He was better known for picking the team than signing players(although Bobby Craig belies that!) But ‘they’ never entered my head.
The well trodden path of the vociferous among the HCs allude to the brevity of the end and start of seasons.Well,it isn’t exactly sprung on us is It?
Well paid managers of companies plan ahead and also don’t repeat the same mistakes,otherwise they are neither managers or well paid in my experience.
Is it as TET et al suggest they aspire only to be better than the Govan Works X1 or is it something we mere mortals have no clue about.I suspect the former though still reserve the right to be in the HC camp.
Anyway,following Celtic is just that…following.Some can go,some can only watch on TV,some can only access through social media and some drift away.
Going to games is the best obviously because of the buildup,the pre-match company and libations,and the instant joy of a goal or win.Equally,the despondency of,for example,a 6-1 humping in the Nou Camp,is only slightly lifted by thoughts of might have been 12 but for Big Virgil,is also immediate.
Anyway,only on so early as must paint the front fascia before the sun blisters the paint.
In addendum,you meet lots of great people at games??.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 7:46 am

Btw,you certainly outwitted me…

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 7:47 am

How beautiful and inspirational was Tommy? One of earliest memories was being taken to Parkhead (as it was known at the time) on Cotters Tour bus, as we were lucky to have Mrs Cotter as our headmistress. I honestly remember watching my hero Tommy from the sidelines as they practiced, and I swear he was wearing his giant milk bottle specs.

I’m likely mis-remembering that, but it’s always been a memory to me .

But my best memory of Tommy now is when he was Celtic manager, and cheated out of at the very least, a league win.

That’s wrong. He more than most along with No8, deserved a trophy against the cheating huns.

How happy am I though, recalling the days of Tommy and Paul, and the gentlemen they were/ are, knowing that, while they dont have the trophies in the cabinet they deserved, they will always be legends, heroes, a place in our hearts, and always have their name talked about for posterity.

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 7:51 am

BMCUW,

!! Hello Sir !!!

Was joking about London. I need to keep my hun amigo under tight control. He is indeed a hun, when he drinks, sometimes, but I love him. ?

I’m very tempted to attend the next hoot. I went very reclusive the last 5 years. A more recent tragedy has bizarrely awakened me …..

Now, I want to go back out and see you all again!!

Love you, Sir. See you soon.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 7:55 am

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm

You’d be dead jealous then of my sister,ATHINGOFBEAUTY. She was talking to Paul McStay directly before the cup final.

As he queued to get into the game with his son.

Shocking way to treat a legend.

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 7:58 am

TnT

Love your posts. That’s another one written from the heart.

For me, fholk like yourself are Celtic.

I can’t add to the discussion. What can I possibly say that you don’t already know.

Except that we need to hold on to good fholk like yourself. Hope you’re well.

Apologies for me commenting without adding any value. This is what I wanted to avoid !!

Back to lurking mode ? HH everyone.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 7:59 am

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstandhMmm

Most of my mates were huns before I met them. The majority are now Rangers supporters. That’s an improvement-I’m a civilising influence!

Missionary work,as we call it in Kilwinning.

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 8:03 am

Ffs. BMCUW.

I can so picture that ?

A humble legend, versus a PLC ?

Knowing you, I’m sure ATOB will have looked after him well. ATOB is an excellent contributor here !!!

Paul McStay, eh? The more I think about it, the more it hurts, but also makes me love him more again. The stories I’ve heard about his friendliness as well.

We keep doing this legend voting thing at Celtic.

There should be a Burns McStay Award. For overall personal brilliance

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 8:04 am

Missionary work ???

That’s how I see it too ??

Edit: it can be bloody hard work though …??

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 8:07 am

BMCUW,

Are you still missing trains? Stupid timetables ?

big packy
June 28, 2019 8:07 am

MORNING ALL twists and turns, good luck with that choice?, like mick ive been watching celtic for over 50 years but have not felt so apart from my team as I do now, its a horrible feeling but I think when your old man puts a celtic strip on you when you can barely walk, that says it al,l he will be up there now saying don’t let the b——ds get you down hh.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 8:17 am

OnlyUberTimWithoutIntangibleSouthsidehMmm

Off to that London tomorrow to meet my nephew. Few beers planned,rail carnage expected.

Heyho…

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 8:26 am

How beautiful is that wee video?.

Tommy is my favourite Celt ever. You know it means something when your favourite footballer inspires you to be a better person.

BMCUW,

?❤? hope your nephew is doing well down there. I’m going to contact Virgin Rail and tell them to systematically delay all trains on 10 minute increments.

That’ll sort it all out ?

BBC News: “Reports are coming in that yet another train has been delayed by 10 minutes due to someone only known, as the BMCUW.
Our reporters believe him to be some kind of fenian upstart. More to follow…..”

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 8:27 am

Geez footage of you running for your trains, eh? ??

m6bhoy
June 28, 2019 9:10 am

Up until fairly recently, I was regarded by my extended family as the Uber Celtic fan in our clan whose love for the club knew no bounds and would do almost anything to support the team. I have two grown up sons who had the freedom to grow up to be what they want to be want to be in terms of religion, politics,etc. The only thing they didn’t get a choice on (apart from inheriting their dad’s good looks) was their football team. In spite of being brought up amidst Villa, Liverpool and Man Utd. supporters, there was only one team for them and that team played in green and white hoops three hundred miles from where they live. Wasn’t easy bring them up as Celtic supporters even back then when live TV football was still in it’s infancy and glimpses of Scottish football were somewhat limited in deepest Ingurlandshire. However, they gladly absorbed the Joy of Celtic and were thrilled at every trip to Glasgow as they knew they would be able to see their heroes in the flesh. One now lives in Berlin and along with his Celtic supporting mates, formed the BBC (Babelsberg Buckfast Celtic Supporters Club) and watch all the matches in the Astra Strube pub which is the place to go on match days for any Tim in that fine city. My other son lives in Glasgow and goes to Celtic Park when he’s not working on match days.

I, on the other hand, have not only given up my season ticket, but I took a decision a couple of years ago never to put a single thin dime into the professional game in Scottish Football because I firmly believe that it is bent, corrupt and no more credible than World Wide Entertainment (WWE) wrestling. Growing up as Celtic supporter, I always knew this was the case but the big difference now is I believe that the club I once supported unconditionally, is now complicit in the cheating and corruption in the game as it chases the bigot pound and helps to prop up the rotten corpse that is Sevco. That this happens, sickens me to the pit of my stomach so I personally felt I had to make a choice. Either, I could hold my nose to deflect the stench of corruption and continue to go to games or I could turn my back on the team my dad first took me to see back in the early 1960’s. In truth, it wasn’t a difficult decision and I don’t regret it one single bit. The rhythm of my life is no longer dictated by the the games schedule and I am free to do what I want when I want without worrying about having access to a TV to computer to watch Celtic. I do still maintain some interest in the team but as I have not paid to watch them for a couple of years, I can no longer claim to be a supporter. In truth I would like to see them achieve TIAR but as much to get it right up the bigots and cheats at Ibrox as much as anything else. However, I feel it is unhealthy for the game as a whole for one team to be as dominant as Celtic are now and long for the days when the likes of Aberdeen and Dundee Utd. gave both us and the huns a run for their money. Still wouldn’t go back to watching it though. Far too busy doing lost of other stuff now.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 10:00 am

M6BHOY

I know a number of people exactly like yourself,and not all of them post on here! I genuinely congratulate you for firstly bringing your sons up properly and also for having the courage of your convictions.

I can’t,and hopefully never will,give up what little support I offer from Swindon. We used to have the biggest supporters club outside of the West of Scotland down here,now we are spread far and wide. We can maybe muster around fifty for a ‘big’ game in the pub which I’m currently heading to and which thankfully welcomes us for each match. More often we struggle to achieve a quorum.

As you may remember,I posted for around a decade on CQN and thoroughly enjoyed most of that. Nothing like a good civilised debate,which for years was what we had. I found it fascinating to watch the timbre of comments from increasing numbers of posters moving against the board. It was commented on often at the hootenannies.

Any company-and COSYCORNERBHOY made a similar point earlier-should pay heed to its customers,and I definitely do not think that Celtic Plc comes close to that. They may be right that we cannot support anyone else,but many are finding other ways to spend their time-and their money!

Legend has it that Scottish Labour were warned in the early part of this century that they were running the risk of alienating their supporters,the people who voted them into power. Seems the consensus was…

Well,who else are they going to vote for?

I wonder how that turned out?

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 10:02 am

m6bhoy

one of the best post I have read on current Celtic.

I have not given them a brown penny since the 5 WA was brokered

plenty of WWE Celtic fans it will interesting to observe what happens if Sevco ever win a league again.

I do believe this is why we recruited Rodgers due to stave of that fear for longer.

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 10:09 am

I felt sorry for my son that I brainwashed him into believing that Celtic FC was a force of good in this world. To this day his bedroom wall is adorned with pre 2012 Celtic paraphernalia. I am glad that he was old enough to witness the developments of corruption for himself.

I now buy him an Eintracht ST

We still go to the Celtic away CL games but the attendances are diminishing. Not many transatlantic, or Arab Celtic fans making the journey any more to see us get whipped and singing about ten in a row

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 10:13 am

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm

If I wrote a screenplay about some of my mishaps on the railways it would be scoffed at as fantasy. Yet few of them have been my fault.

Some of them have,and here’s the worst.

Returning from London after a week of nights and a day on the batter,I got on the last train to Swindon. I usually avoid this particular schoolboy error as why tempt fate? However,I got effed around by London Underground and missed my planned train,the previous one.

See,not entirely stupid. You have to plan for unforeseen contingencies like that.

So jumped on the train-and yes,it was the correct one,thank you!-and set the alarm on my phone for five minutes before my arrival at Swindon. Just in case I fell asleep,I didn’t fancy Bristol at one in the morning.

Alarm went off,I looked around. Bloody hell,my station. Jumped off just as the doors closed.

And realised my mistake. Didcot. 20 minutes away,the previous station. Surprisingly similar to look at,btw.

And in the middle of nowhere! Train had obviously been delayed and I was out of pocket by a negotiated £60 taxi fare.

Next time you hear of parents complaining about their kids constantly asking “Are We There Yet?” tell them I’ll happily borrow one of them!

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 10:18 am

BMCUWP

Any company-and COSYCORNERBHOY made a similar point earlier-should pay heed to its customers,and I definitely do not think that Celtic Plc comes close to that

As long as they keep winning then their present customer base will not care. Watch them become screaming demented banshees when Sevco secure the league that´s the backlash that is in the post for sure and then the phoney competition of the jousting for most successful team in the world starts. I predict that the Celtic support will fully embrace this retarded hunnery as that´s what we are now and where the PLC clearly want us to be.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 10:40 am

AWENAW

This is where you and I have long disagreed. The present customer base DO care,and are not all OldFirmists. You can still pay for your ticket and despise the board.

It does no good whatsoever to treat everyone who attends matches with the open contempt that you do.

We love Celtic FC,love watching the team when we can. Love being at the matches/in the pub-delete where applicable-with friends and family as we have done for years. Those of us who still support in spite of the Plc generally have nothing but admiration for those whose convictions prevent them from doing so. See my reply earlier to M6BHOY,for instance.

Why can’t you reciprocate that?

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm
June 28, 2019 10:54 am

BMCUW,

I’m privileged enough to have chased drinks and trains with you, In Bath.

The chasing the trains bit was definitely my fault !!

Here’s a wee word about Tories.

Possibly the best piece of music ever written.

https://youtu.be/QWLBtMz5OuY

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 10:59 am

BMCUWP,

you either believe in fairness and justice and the truth or you don’t.

I genuinely believe that those concepts fairness, justice and truth is actually too difficult for the majority of our customers to get a grip on far easier propping up the Old firm and saying “but whit can poor wee stupid us dae about it ? we only want a wee day oot”

Easy stop giving them the money to support the Old Firm .. even for one game

If you are too stupid or conflicted in some way to understand that I see no reason why I should compromise ?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 11:10 am

OnlyUberTimWithoutInsideTangibleSouthstand hMmm

As I recall,you had allowed me free rein of the agenda in Bath but having been led from pub to pub,were getting a tad concerned that we might have been walking in a straight line rather than circles,so to speak.

So my reply of five minutes when you asked how far we were from the station wasn’t really accepted. Rightly so,I have previous! And after the next train,it reduces to an hourly service,who knows what can go wrong from there on a Saturday night?

So we swiftly supped up at your insistence and sauntered off to the station. Five minutes away,and having just missed the previous train!

I suggested returning to the previous pub to kill some time. You pointed out The Royal Hotel across the road.

Thank f..k it was your round!

jimthetim53
June 28, 2019 11:14 am

OnlyUberTim, When I started posting it wasn’t because I felt I could contribute much to the site about Celtic on the pitch. There are loads of posters much better able to do that. I love reading their stuff. I post about anything. Celtic related or not. I think of this site as a bunch of Celtic minded friends.

Your posts are a lot better than you think. Keep posting mate.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 11:16 am

AWENAW

Stupid or conflicted?

TOO stupid or conflicted?

Crikey,old son-you’re not gonna win many converts to your argument with insults like that. Have you always been a master debater,a wizard with words who can win round the masses with reason?

That approach won’t work,AWENAW,and it won’t wash either. It’s a deliberate insult which implies that yours is the only way forward. It’s not.

Bada Bing
June 28, 2019 11:50 am

http://www.celticfc.net/news/16367

Jullien signs 4 year deal

Bada Bing
June 28, 2019 11:54 am

AC Milan papped out Europa League for financial irregularities….it will never catch on…

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 12:01 pm

BMCUWP,

insults or/and accurate observations ? I am no longer looking for converts. It is 2019 7 years since the 5WA .

The penny isn´t going to drop anymore because those in denial (The majority of our support) don’t have a penny to drop or at least their hatred of huns is blinding them to that particular faculty. Either way they can fuck off not in my name

1. At least I have an approach

2. My approach would work UN FUCKING DEBATABLE see BR appointment

Eddieinkirkmichael
June 28, 2019 12:05 pm

I came across this interesting discussion on YouTube recently, it’s in 4 parts. Celtic Plc get a few mentions for banning The Wolfe Tones from advertising in the match day programme.
Fintan O’Toole who is one of the contributors is a fine writer and obviously intelligent man though here he demonstrates exactly what is wrong with middle and upper middle class polite Catholic society in Scotland and Ireland. They look down on the working class and those things that are popular within it. Support for Republicanism and songs associated with it are denounced as they upset people, what people? Well I think we all know who those peepul are that the polite middle class don’t want to upset.
In Scotland we have a similar journalist Uncle Tom English who constantly deplores Republicans and songs about them sung by a section of the Celtic support and states quiet categorically that these wouldn’t be acceptable in modern Ireland, yet the Rugby Club he professes to support has Sean South as the song the run out to on match day.
The attitude of O’Toole and English is replicated in our boardroom by Bankier and Wilson among others, Lowell is a hypocrite as he is known to have belted out the tunes on buses to away games in his younger days. This attitude to appease civic England/Scotland is doomed to failure as the support for Irish nationalism is entrenched in a significant % of the support, not only the working class supporters but throughout the fan base.
There has been an abject failure of the custodians of our club to defend our cultural identity, from Desmond White through Fergus up till the present day. The fact that a significant percentage within our support sing in support of a nationalist/republican cause embarrasses these people who are meant to defend us. Yet bing a Nationalist or Republican is a legitimate political position no deference from being Tory or Labour.
This demonisation of our support, while it may not be orchestrated it is relentless and imo has to be challenged.
I’ve mentioned a few times on twitter can anyone point out one instance where any fan base out with our own were condemned for singing songs about their cultural identity? You won’t find one anywhere in print or on tv or radio, you’ll hear and read about how they hate Sectarianism, though you will never hear a condemnation of songs in support of UDA UVF ect, songs like Build my Gallows High or I was a Soldier of the UDA. Yet how many times have we read or heard journalist, ex players ect condemn songs such as BOTOB because they are about the IRA, why are our fans singled out and demonised while our board collude with those that peddle their own petty prejudice dressed up as civic duty?

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fPiRvVD4WB8

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 12:12 pm

Eddie,

maximise profits and endear themselves to the establishment FC

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 12:35 pm

AWENAW

There isn’t any debate with you. You are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong.

There are others who are trying to find a middle ground,remember. Yes,they might be compromising their principles,but that’s because they believe that no principle is worth killing our club for.

Sol Kitts
June 28, 2019 12:38 pm

BMCUWP
Train stories, eh? We have a few worth mentioning.
My favourite train cock up doesn’t actually involve you. I got on the last train home (I know, but it had been a good night in the Devil’s Elbow) to Ardrossan at Central Station, platform 13. Went to the front carriage to avoid walking too far at Ardrossan South Beach, and promptly fell asleep. I felt the train moving off, and told my sleeping self to not end up in Largs.
An hour later, I was woken by the train jolting to a halt. Looked out of the window, couldn’t believe I was still in Central Station. I stuck my head out the window and shouted to a startled guard on the otherwise deserted platform, “haw mate, when does this train leave?”
“It’s been and come back again”, he laughed.
I knew I hadn’t been to Largs and back, so I asked him where it had been and come back from. Cathcart Inner Circle. I had spent 60 minutes trundling around Glasgow while the BACK 3 carriages went to Ardrossan.
It was a long cold night hanging round Central Station waiting for the first train next.day.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
June 28, 2019 12:39 pm

EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL

I have said for years that if we bring back the 80s songbook,steps would swiftly be taken to deduct points for infringements of strict new rules.

Difference is,we could stop it right away. They can’t. It’s in their DNA.

Get more than a couple of them together,and it’s The Sash,Derry’s Walls,No Surrender. Cannot help themselves.

Sol Kitts
June 28, 2019 12:43 pm

BMCUWP and AWENAW
I live in Essex and don’t get too many opportunities to get back to Scotland. I have issues with the board but despite them I would love to go to some games, and would do if the chance arose. I’m a Celtic fan, and my support encompasses the good and the bad of my club.

Margaret McGill
June 28, 2019 12:48 pm

I will always support Celtic. Its just that I wont be given them any money (basically havent since 2010) until these c**nts are gone.

The Exiled Tim
June 28, 2019 12:54 pm

Superb leader and a fair few wonderful posts.
It’s a difficult one in reality, the pull the club have on people, this past few years have been especially difficult as the powers that B have found to be as corrupt as a nine bob note, for sure we always suspected they were but now the proof is staring us in the face, and just to top things off, we now know that our board are complicit, some refuse to accept that but the 5WA puts paid to that argument, so what are the choices we have, some choose to carry on as if nothing untoward has happened, some decide that they can no longer be associated with the corruption, others will withdraw their finances, more will walk away totally and a few bits and bobs in between, everyone has the decision to make, nobody is right and nobody is wrong, whatever they choose they will have to live with it come what may.
What I will say is this, now that we are 100% sure of the corruption that surrounds the game in scotland, anyone who contributes to the corruption really has no right to complain about it, I know others will disagree with that but it’s just the way I see things, the answer is actually so very simple, deprive them of the money, I will guarantee you they will jump to your tune quick enough.
Till then, they will cheat you while taking your money and laugh at you in the same breath.

The Exiled Tim
June 28, 2019 1:04 pm

Welcome to Celtic big fella.
FC not PLC

Margaret McGill
June 28, 2019 1:06 pm

10iar will not be allowed. Might even be an unwritten part of the 5WA.
I’m fully expecting not to get 9iar as it will be a real struggle unless Sevco collapse financially and then it can always be said 10iar? yer having a laugh couldny even make 9iar for the 2nd time? That kind of thing. Anyway, 10iar legitimizes Glasgow Rangers and I have been waiting on Glasgow Rangers to collapse financially all my life because they are cheatin C**ts but even when they did they didny with a great help from Celtic PLC.

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 1:15 pm

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
AWENAW

There isn’t any debate with you. You are right and anyone who disagrees is wrong

kill the club ? Is it an inseparable Siamese twin with the devil

Collectively not paying for one game or say two is going to kill our club ? Explain how that kills the club ?

I have no faith in the the middle ground process. I never have had. A leopard does not change it spots.

My wee Brar now thinks I am right . Auldheid I think thinks that the jury is still out …. a long recess if you ask me

Infinite patience brings immediate results PISH

Collectively stop paying for one maybe two games

THEE ONLY FUCKING WAY BAR NONE

You haven´t even debated with me today btw as far as I am concerned. You may not like my style but the content is there.

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 1:23 pm

Sol Kitts

I used too before 2012.

Since 2012 I can no longer swallow the community is the club argument. It´s pish. The lack of interestdeliberate self preservation btw is telling and the more than a club mantra is just a lie

I will not contribute to maintaining the Old Firm or a neo liberal billionaire in order to watch a fixed game that masquerades as sport but really is a vehicle within Scotland to maintain social division. and a wee profit for Celtic shareholders

If you wish too then fine that is your choice. I don´t

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 1:25 pm

TET

exactamundo

but too many bigoted stupid people follow Celtic for that to change and they don´t like getting it pointed out to them. As me and you well know

Bada Bing
June 28, 2019 1:27 pm

MON sacked by Forest..

Awe Naw
June 28, 2019 1:38 pm

Ok Folks rather than spoil the party I´m going to take a wee break. I will be back on after the first qualifier.

Enjoy the weather and the peace

mahe
June 28, 2019 1:41 pm

Morning troops and happy Friday.
Some fantastic comments but I find myself with M6bhoy and AweNaw.
Starving them out is the only option .
Just couldn’t bring myself to go attend , don’t think I will again tbh.
Ah well. Nothing lasts forever.
Hail Hail

mahe
June 28, 2019 1:42 pm

Awe Naw
Stick around ffs,, we’re not gonna fall out over a couple words on the net.
Hail Hail

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