July the Twelfth

Morning,all.

On such an auspicious date as this,it is fitting that we take a look through the history books to put some flesh on the bones of our knowledge. Today’s article has been provided for us by James Connolly,via THE GOMBEEN MAN,and is very much worth a read.

Excoriating is the word that springs to mind!

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James Connolly

July the 12th

(1913)

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As this Saturday (1913) is the 12th of July, and as I am supposed to be writing about the North of Ireland in particular, it becomes imperative that I say something about this great and glorious festival.
The Anniversary of the Battle of the Boyne is celebrated in Belfast by what is locally known as an Orange Walk. The brethren turn out and take possession of the principal streets of the city, and for the space of some hours they pass in processional order before the eyes of the citizens, bearing their banners, wearing their regalia, carrying symbols emblematic of the gates of Derry, and to the accompaniment of a great many bands.
Viewing the procession as a mere ‘Teague’ (to use the name the brethren bestow on all of Catholic origin), I must confess that some parts of it are beautiful, some of it ludicrous, and some of it exceedingly disheartening.
The regalia is often beautiful; I have seen representations of the Gates of Derry that were really a pleasure to view as pieces of workmanship; and similar representations erected as Orange arches across dingy side streets that, if we could forget their symbolism, we would admire as real works of art.
The music (?) is a fearful and wonderful production, seemingly being based upon a desire to produce the maximum of sound in the minimum of space. Every Orange Lodge in the North of Ireland, and many from the South make it a point to walk, and as each Lodge desires to have a band without any regard to its numbers, the bands are often so near that even the most skilful manipulator cannot prevent a blending of sounds that can scarcely be called harmonious.
I have stood on the sidewalk listening to a band, whose instruments were rendering:
Jesus, lover of my soul,
Let me to thy bosom fly.
Whilst another one about twenty yards off was splitting the air with:
Dolly’s Brae, O Dolly’s Brae,
O, Dolly’s Brae no more;
The song we sang was kick the Pope
Right over Dolly’s Brae.
But the discord of sound allied to the discord of sentiment implied in a longing to fly to the bosom of Jesus, and at the same time to kick the Pope, did not appear to strike anyone but myself.
For that matter a sense of humour is not one of the strong points in an Orangeman’s nature. The dead walls of Belfast are decorated with a mixture of imprecations upon Fenians , and, the Pope, and invocations of the power and goodness of the Most High, interlarded with quotations from the New Testament. This produces some of the most incongruous results. What would the readers of Forward say to seeing written up on the side of a wall off one of the main streets, the attractive legend:
God is Love,
Hell Roast the Pope.
Of course, the juxtaposition of such inscriptions on the walls appears absurd, and yet, the juxtaposition of sentiments as dissimilar is common enough in the minds of all of us, I suppose.
To anyone really conversant with the facts bearing upon the relations of the religious in Ireland, and the part played by them in advancing or retarding the principles of civil and religious liberty, the whole celebration appears to be foolish enough.
The belief sedulously cultivated by all the orators, lay and clerical, as well as by all the newspapers is, that the Defence of Derry and the Battle of the Boyne were great vindications of the principles of civil and religious liberty, which were menaced by the Catholics, and defended by the Protestants of all sects.
The belief we acquire from a more clear study of history in Ireland is somewhat different. Let me tell it briefly. In the reign of James I, the English Government essayed to solve the Irish problem, which then, as now, was their chief trouble, by settling Ireland with planters from Scotland and England. To do this, two million acres were confiscated, i.e., stolen from the Irish owners. Froude, the historian, says:
“Of these, a million and a half, bog-forest and mountain were restored to the Irish. The half a million of fertile acres were settled with families of Scottish and English Protestants.”
A friendly speaker, recently describing these planters before a meeting of the Belfast Liberal Association, spoke of them as:
“Hardy pioneers, born of a sturdy race, trained to adversity, when brought face to face with dangers of a new life in a hostile country, soon developed that steady, energetic, and powerful character which has made the name of Ulster respected all over the world.”
And a writer in the seventeenth century, the son of one of the ministers who came over with the first plantation, Mr. Stewart, is quoted by Lecky in his History of England in the Eighteenth Century, as saying:
“From Scotland came many, and from England not a few, yet all of them generally the scum of both nations, who from debt, or breaking the law or fleeing from justice, or seeking shelter, come hither, hoping to be without fear of man’s justice in a land where there was nothing, or but little as yet, of the fear of God … On all hands Atheism increased, and disregard of God, iniquity abounded, with contentious fighting, murder, adultery.”
The reader can take his choice of these descriptions. Probably the truth is that each is a fairly accurate description of a section of the planters, and that neither is accurate as a picture of the whole.
But while the Plantation succeeded from the point of view of the Government in placing in the heart of Ulster a body of people who, whatever their disaffection to that Government, were still bound by fears of their own safety to defend it against the natives, it did not bring either civil or religious liberty to the Presbyterian planters.
The Episcopalians were in power, and all the forces of government were used by them against their fellow-Protestants. The planters were continually harassed to make them adjure their religion, fines were multiplied upon fines, and imprisonment upon imprisonment. In 1640, the Presbyterians of Antrim, Down, and Tyrone, in a petition to the English House of Commons, declared that:
“Principally through the sway of the prelacy with their factions our souls are starved, our estates are undone, our families impoverished, and many lives among us cut off and destroyed … Our cruel taskmasters have made us who were once a people to become as it were no people, an astonishment to ourselves, the object of pittie and amazement to others.”
What might have been the result of this cruel, systematic persecution of Protestants by Protestants we can only conjecture, since, in the following year, 1641, the great Irish rebellion compelled the persecuting and persecuted Protestants to join hands in defence of their common plunder against the common enemy – the original Irish owners.
In all the demonstrations and meetings which take place in Ulster under Unionist Party auspices, all these persecutions are alluded to as if they had been the work of “Papists,” and even in the Presbyterian churches and conventions, the same distortion of the truth is continually practised.
But they are told
“all this persecution was ended when William of Orange, and our immortal forefathers overthrew the Pope and Popery at the Boyne. Then began the era of civil and religious liberty.”
So runs the legend implicitly believed in in Ulster. Yet it is far, very far, from the truth. In 1686 certain continental powers joined together in a league, known in history as the league of Augsburg, for the purpose of curbing the arrogant power of France. These powers were impartially Protestant and Catholic, including the Emperor of Germany, the King of Spain, William, Prince of Orange, and the Pope. The latter had but a small army, but possessed a good treasury and great influence. A few years before a French army had marched upon Rome to avenge a slight insult offered to France, and His Holiness was more than anxious to curb the Catholic power that had dared to violate the centre of Catholicity. Hence his alliance with William, Prince of Orange.
King James II, of England, being insecure upon his throne, sought alliance with the French monarch.
When, therefore, the war took place in Ireland, King William fought, aided by the arms, men, and treasures of his allies in the League of Augsburg, and part of his expenses at the Battle of the Boyne was paid for by His Holiness, the Pope. Moreover, when news of King William’s victory reached Rome, a Te Deum was sung in celebration of his victory over the Irish adherents of King James and King Louis.
Therefore, on Saturday the Orangemen of Ulster, led by King Carson, will be celebrating the same victory as the Pope celebrated 223 years ago.
Nor did the victory at the Boyne mean Civil and Religious Liberty. The Catholic Parliament of King James, meeting in Dublin in 1689, had passed a law that all religions were equal, and that each clergyman should be supported by his own congregation only, and that no tithes should be levied upon any man for the support of a church to which he did not belong. But this sublime conception was far from being entertained by the Williamites who overthrew King James and superseded his Parliament. The Episcopalian Church was immediately re-established, and all other religions put under the ban of the law. I need not refer to the Penal Laws against Catholics, they are well enough known. But sufficient to point out that England and Wales have not yet attained to that degree of religious equality established by Acts XIII and XV of the Catholic Parliament of 1689, and that that date was the last in which Catholics and Protestants sat together in Parliament until the former compelled an Emancipation Act in 1829.
For the Presbyterians the victory at the Boyne simply gave a freer hand to their Episcopalian persecutors. In 1704 Derry was rewarded for its heroic defence by being compelled to submit to a Test Act, which shut out of all offices in the Law, the Army, the Navy, the Customs and Excise, and Municipal employment, all who would not conform to the Episcopalian Church. The alderman and fourteen burgesses are said to have been disfranchised in the Maiden City by this iniquitous Act, which was also enforced all over Ireland. Thus, at one stroke, Presbyterians, Quakers, and all other dissenters were deprived of that which they had imagined they were fighting for at “Derry, Aughrim, and the Boyne.” Presbyterians were forbidden to be married by their own clergymen, the Ecclesiastical Courts had power to fine and imprison offenders, and to compel them to appear in the Parish Church, and make public confession of fornication, if so married. At Lisburn and Tullylish, Presbyterians were actually punished for being married by their own ministers. Some years later, in 1712, a number of Presbyterians were arrested for attempting to establish a Presbyterian meeting house in Belturbet.
The marriage of a Presbyterian and an Episcopalian was declared illegal, and in fact, the ministers and congregations of the former church were treated as outlaws and rebels, to be fined, imprisoned, and harassed in every possible way. They had to pay tithes for the upkeep of the Episcopalian ministers, were fined for not going to the Episcopalian Church, and had to pay Church cess for buying sacramental bread, ringing the bell, and washing the surplices of the Episcopalian clergymen. All this, remember, in the generation immediately following the Battle of the Boyne.
The reader should remember what is generally slurred over in narrating this part of Irish history, that when we are told that Ulster was planted by Scottish Presbyterians, it does not mean that the land was given to them. On the contrary, the vital fact was, and is, that the land was given to the English noblemen and to certain London companies of merchants who had lent money to the Crown, and that the Scottish planters were only introduced as tenants of these landlords. The condition of their tenancy virtually was that they should keep Ireland for the English Crown, and till the land of Ireland for the benefit of the English landlord.
That is in essence the demand of the Unionist Party leaders upon their followers today. In the past, as the landlords were generally English and Episcopalian, they all, during the eighteenth century, continually inserted clauses in all their leases, forbidding the erection of Presbyterian meeting houses. As the uprise of democracy has contributed to make this impossible today in Ireland, the landlord and capitalist class now seek an alliance with these Protestants they persecuted for so long in order to prevent a union of the democracy of all religious faiths against their lords and masters.
To accomplish this they seek insidiously to pervert history, and to inflame the spirit of religious fanaticism. The best cure I know of for that evil is a correct understanding of the events they so distort in their speeches and sermons. To this end I have ever striven to contribute my mite, and while I know that the sight of the thousands who, on July 12, will march to proclaim their allegiance to principles of which their order is a negation, will be somewhat disheartening. I also know that even amongst the Orange hosts, the light of truth is penetrating.
In conclusion, the fundamental, historical facts to remember are that:
The Irish Catholic was despoiled by force,
The Irish Protestant toiler was despoiled by fraud,
The spoliation of both continues today
under more insidious but more effective forms,
and the only hope lies in the latter combining with the former in overthrowing their common spoilers, and consenting to live in amity together in the common ownership of their common country – the country which the spirit of their ancestors or the devices of their rulers have made – the place of their origin, or the scene of their travail.
I have always held, despite the fanatics on both sides, that the movements of Ireland for freedom could not and cannot be divorced from the world-wide upward movements of the world’s democracy. The Irish question is a part of the social question, the desire of the Irish people to control their own destinies is a part of the desire of the workers to forge political weapons for their own enfranchisement as a class.
The Orange fanatic and the Capitalist-minded Home Ruler are alike in denying this truth; ere long, both of them will be but memories, while the army of those who believe in that truth will be marching and battling on its conquering way.

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Grateful thanks once again to THE GOMBEEN MAN for this timely reminder of the great man and his thoughts. It can be your turn to have Article of the Day simply by mailing it to Mahe.

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It seems that Tommy Smith will join Stoke City in preference to us. That’s a pity as it seems he would have been a solid option for us in a problem position.

However,he is 27 years old,and despite having two seasons in the EPL with Huddersfield,I doubt he will have pocketed a great deal financially in his career to date. This is likely to be his last chance at a big contract,one which will secure the future for him and his family.

If he has decided that an extra £4m over the term of the contract is worth more than winners medals and playing in Europe,that is his choice. Four years younger,he would have bitten the hand off us. The timing simply wasn’t right for him.

Noel Skytrot

Great historical article TGM. A very strange sub culture who have been used and abused by the British ruling classes from day dot. The majority in say the Shankill don’t understand that their problems such as poor housing, unemployment etc aren’t any different from those they detest that live in the Ardoyne, yet they still cling onto this foolish, divisive supremacist bollocks. Colourful pageantry it me be, but the whole ethos is to discriminate against others because they’re different.

Irishmen who want to be Englishmen who fought in a battle supporting a Dutchman who was partly funded by the papal regency at a battle in a country they claim as being alien too them. Crazy

Noel Skytrot

Revolutionary socialist James Connolly’s article is a brilliant analysis of Orangeism in that era. It can be found on the Marxist Internet Archive along with many other interesting articles.

Corkcelt

Tremendous opener. Congratulations to all.

big packy

THE GOMBEEN MAN, fantastic insight into the world of the orange order, just think if they put their drums and flutes away for ever ,the uk I say the uk because they will be singing their songs of hate in Liverpool, a 20 minute drive from here.hh.anyway must dash, got to get my lambeg drum out the loft and get my uniform and sash ready.cheerio for now.???

The Gombeen Man

Morning All,

It’s safe to assume that very few of today’s celebrants of the Battle of the Boyne are aware that the Orange Order was founded in 1795 over 100 years after the battle.

The background was the growing dissatisfaction with the situation in Ireland at the time. The Rebellion of 1798 of the United Irishmen owes a great deal to the tenacity of Presbyterian and members of other denmoniatons.

Names like Wolfe Tone, Henry Joy McCracken and the later Robert Emmet are rightly immortalised in the struggle for equality.

Today the Orange Order here, numbers about 30,000, numbers are declining.

James Connolly’s writing is generous and he understood and connected with the plight of the non Catholic in Ireland. Simply they are the victims of a manipulative state that has a knack of sowing the seeds of division and thereby ensuring domination.

Let’s hope today passes off peacefully and Connolly’s insight and sacrifice continues to shine a light for Irish and Scottish people.

HH

THEGOMBEENMAN

James Connolly understood the tactic of divide and conquer.

Phil has an interesting take on the money situation at Ibrox. I do enjoy his spats with John James. I think they’d get on like a house on fire if they met up for a drink. For about five minutes.

https://philmacgiollabhain.ie/2019/07/11/a-brief-communique-from-a-busy-writer/#more-13838

To put things into perspective. Today is 12 July. The day after BMCUWP’s birthday.

And speaking of a house on fire,on today of all days,I wonder how many loyalists in NI bought this album back in the day? It was a mainstay of the party circuit back home at the time,and I would just smile.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Searching_for_the_Young_Soul_Rebels

Great album too,and still is.

JIMTHETIM53

There should be a law against double shifts on yer birthday.

As it was a pleasant day down here yesterday,I put on a gift from Almore-a black t-shirt with a Celtic crest,and United Irishmen Celtic Supporters Club logo under it. Somewhat relevant to the point made about 1798 by THEGOMBEENMAN,and I recommend a book called Year of the French,by,I think,Flanagan. Anyway…

I forgot I was covering a holidaying colleague’s route. Including Warminster,a barracks town. A couple of uncomplimentary comments,let’s say!

Hopefully I’ll remember to wear my t-shirt with Billy lifting Big Ears next time…

weefra

Morning all. HH

Weefra, Morning son, your up early!

The Gombeen Man

Jimthetim63,

BMCUWPs is pretty safe. The battle took place on the 1st of July 1690…As you know dates and facts aren’t that important in certain quarters.

Another lesser known fact is that it’s a public holiday in two Canadian Provinces…

“Orangemen’s Day commemorates the Battle of the Boyne, which took place in 1690 outside Drogheda, now in the Republic of Ireland. It is a provincial holiday in Newfoundland and Labrador on the Monday closest to July 12.”

Bobby, I spoke to Almore once on CQN, he sounds a smashing lad. I was saying I have friends in Coolock, Dublin, I think he teaches around there.

The Gombeen man, Your article was very enlightening for me. I haven’t read much about the Boyne. I was most surprised that the Presbyterians were not popular. How things change?

As a wee aside, I have a couple of neighbours who are Salvation Army folk. I thought this was harmless. Last Saturday I met them coming back from watching the orange walk. I was disgusted. They saw it in my face. I normally say hello. no words were spoken. I hope it made them think again. They have lost a friend.

JIMTHETIM53

You shouldn’t lose friends over things like that,mate. Make your disapproval plain then explain why. It’s a chance to educate people. Well worth a try.

WEEFRA

Morning,mucker. Cock crowed early,did it?

Give me a text when you have time for a chat-but gimme half an hour till the washing machine stops!

THEGOMBEENMAN

Holiday in Newfoundland and Labrador? REBUS67 will be wondering how to celebrate it!

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JIMTHETIM53

ALMORE? If you ever meet a more smashing fella,let me know. Diamond,that man.

Noel Skytrot

BMCUWP,
I read your comment about the tshirt and it reminds me of my holiday in Zante in Greece. The family and myself were over there in 2016 and one day I had an ICA tshirt on that i had bought from the Calton bookshop, anyways, go for a meal in a place called Kalamaki and one of the guys who stands on the pavement to draw punters in stops us and has a chat, a big massive bald guy, in we go, have a meal and all’s well. Guy spies my tshirt and says he likes it, no worries pal, let me wash it and I’ll return with it and its yours, which I did. I goes back up two days later and the big guy isn’t there, asks a staff member where he is? they’re being a bit vague with me. Few days later meets the fella in a pharmacy and I asked him why he wasn’t at work? Big fella tells me that he got into an altercation with Englishmen and some Scots which resulted in them being set about and the police called, so he was keeping a low profile. I felt sorry for the guy, so asked him did he want to have a coffee and some breakfast, no probs. Turned out this guy was some sort of ex Greek Special Forces type who was just looking for a quiet life, guy starts telling me that due to his surname which has an association with people in Greece that have been involved in partisan acts against the Nazi’s, the Brit’s and internal politics in Greece for decades, he gets a real hard time, even when he was in the army. Asks the guy why he asked for the tshirt which is a nice dark green one with gold lettering and design and he proceeds to give me a detailed knowledge of the past struggles in Ireland from way back, bonkers. Turns out that this mad bastard put the tshirt on when doing the pavement gig and some took offence and started fighting with him, resulting in him battering fuck out of them, all because of a kind act and a tshirt, mental.

The Gombeen Man

Jimthetim,

You’ll be surprised by what you come across in Irish history.

The Presbyterians and Quakers were just above the Catholics in the pecking order. It was the established church that called the shots and every other denomination was discriminated against.

The OO are a fiction really. There was revolt in the air and it was an attempt to divide and control.

There used to be dozens of Orange Lodges in the Republic, there’s only a few now.

The Union Jack went and so did many of their methods. Amazing that…

I jog round the Battle of the Boyne site three times a week. A lovely peaceful place. Usually, I say a few prayers for the men who were simply canon fodder on both sides.

I’ll be doing the Parkrun there tomorrow. It goes round much of the site on the south of the Boyne every Saturday.

Nobody knows what anybody is or cares.

Thanks to Connolly, Pearse, Plunkett, Clarke, Grace Gifford and many more.

HH

The Gombeen Man

BMCUWPs,

Will you tell Rebus or will I?

Maybe Mike in Toronto will put in a protest on behalf of Ontario?

Thanks lads for the comments. Things to do, will catch up later.

HH

The Gombeen Man, Isn’t it strange History & Geography? When I hear ‘The Boyne’ I hate it. Even though with my limited knowledge of it, for instance that it was not a straightforward battle between Catholics and protestants, the protestants over the centuries took the supremacy of it over Irish Catholics and then Scottish Catholics.

Then there is the geography. Any time I see it, it looks lovely. the fact that you go jogging around there often is good enough for me. It’s a piece of land and water. God’s land and water.

NOELSKYTROT

I like the guy! I think that even if I didn’t,I would tell him that I did…

I’d love to have seen the troupe of bully-boy thugs thinking they had a target and then realising that actually,it was them. Always does the oul’ heart good,that kinda thing.

Mike

Thank you, The Gombeen Man, the man from Edinburgh was a particular hero of mine.

The Orange Order is an institution, another weapon formed to try to continue British dominance on the Island of Ireland, its uncomfortable worth only relevant to the dim witted, its bitterness on display as they march down the streets. Here in Scotland from Dunkeld to Glasgow, the people are gradually waking up and speaking out against these hate filled relics of the past.

Its sad to reflect that only around fifty years from its inception, the coffin ships were leaving ports big and small from harbours from Cork to Tralee, carrying a human cargo, their bellies burning with hunger, dressed in rags or naked, over one million Irish men, women and children trying to flee from a cynical uncaring disregard for human life. Irish history is filled with conflict, its countrymen and women trying to unburden themselves from their oppressors, despairing but always hoping for a better future.

I sincerely hope that your daughter is getting better and well done you.

JIMTHETIM53

A very good lad took my Dad and I to the site of the battle when we were over for The Centenary of The Rising. Such a tranquil place,it beggars belief that there was so much bloodshed then,and since.

The Visitors Centre was closed-it was Good Friday,the whole of Ireland closed then!-but it was an impressive site,and time very well spent.

As of course,was the rest of the day-and the whole trip!

SFTB

One of the best lead articles on any Celtic site.

What a good writer the man was- as well as a clear thinker.

Mike in Toronto

Good morning lads,

From an excellent opening article by Gombeen through to the comments, some excellent contributions today. A pleasure to read them. So, thank you to each and all of you.

As I mentioned yesterday, Gene Sharp’s work on how to overthrow unjust regimes through democratic actions is probably a worthwhile read … not only for the Occupied Counties, but also for the SFA, and our Board that, as Mick points out.

Henceforth, I shall think of the bonfires as them celebrating Mick’s birthday (although I have yet to figure out how to explain the connection to the Ivory Coast).?

Mick is right about Almore … could not meet a nicer lad. He, and a few others, are the reason I still read the other site ( although it gets harder and harder all the time).

I’m not in court today, so maybe I’ll go casual, and wear my old green etim’s ‘united ireland’ T-shirt with Roy Keane and NFL on the front.

JTT … speaking of NFL… think you were a tad harsh last night. .. at the time, he was one of the best defensive readers of the game.. not quite Claude Makelele good, but up there. However, I agree that once he got the ball, he had no one idea what to do with it, and slowed play down to a ridiculous extreme.

MIKEINTORONTO

I was born ten minutes before the deadline.

Rumours that COSYCORNERBHOY checked his watch and kicked the medical staff out of the road and started pulling are to this day conjecture.

The Gombeen Man

Jimthetim,

The legend Fionn McCumhaill caught the Salmon of Knowledge just beside where the battle took place,

https://www-yourirish-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.yourirish.com/folklore/salmon-of-wisdom/?amp_js_v=a2 &amp_gsa=1&amp&usqp=mq331AQDoAEE#referrer=https%3A%2F%2FDont google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.yourirish.com%2Ffolklore%2Fsalmon-of-wisdom

Just round the bend of the Boyne, there are the three Neolithic Passage tombs of Newgrange, Knowth and Dowth.

So it’s an area rich in Celtic legend and mythology and peace have been restored.

HH

Eddieinkirkmichael

Never read that before, so thanks for sharing. Some great comments today which make this a must read site.

God save Ireland, said the heroes God save Ireland, said they all Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall High upon the gallows tree swung the noble hearted three By the vengeful tyrant stricken in their bloom But they met him face to face with the courage of their race And they went with souls undaunted to their doom God save Ireland, said the heroes God save Ireland, said they all Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall Climbed they up the rugged stair, rang their voices out in prayer Then with England’s fatal cord around them cast Close beside the gallows tree kissed like brothers lovingly True to home and faith and freedom to the last God save Ireland, said the heroes God save Ireland, said they all Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall Never till the latest day shall the memory pass away Of the gallant lives thus given for our land But on the cause must go, amidst joy and weal and woe Till we make our Isle a nation free and grand God save Ireland, said the heroes God save Ireland, said they all Whether on the scaffold high Or the battlefield we die Oh, what matter when for Erin dear we fall

EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL and SFTB

Thanks,lads. Much appreciated.

Must read? Not so sure you’ll want to read tomorrow’s article. The Lost Ten-Part Five.

I was swithering whether to get out the razor blades or a gun when I wrote it,a truly horrible season. So…

Save the site from this torture. Send us an article. We always publish(unless our lawyer says it’s libellous.)

Sol Kitts

My daughter celebrates her birthday today. She’s lived in England since she was 4, and has no idea what an Orange walk is, never mind what it’s supposed to be about. Mrs Kitts and I have kept our kids well insulated from the hatred and bigotry, just find it incredible that the OW is still a thing.

SOLKITTS

Bloody hell,I didn’t know today was her birthday. Of course,we’d lost touch for a while by then,but still no excuse.

You’ve done well with them,for sure. Keeps you occupied on a Saturday night looking after the grandkids!

Pass on my best wishes,please. And I’ll see you in three weeks. Earlier kick off than usual so I’ll attempt to catch an earlier train(!)

That’ll be about 830am. Blinkin flip.

“unless our lawyer says it’s libellous”

That’s Mike in Toronto! The greatest lawyer in the northern hemisphere.

Sol Kitts

BMCUWP
All the years I’ve known you, and I had no idea your birthday was yesterday. Witmalike? Happy birthday old bean, sorry I’m a day late.

Name this tune: (It’s Puccini)

La la la la la laaaaa

la la l;a bliddy la la laaaaaaa

La la la la , la la, la la la la

Looooo lo lo lo, la la de la.

La la la la la laaaaa.

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JIMTHETIM53

I had to laugh at a comment from MIKEINTORONTO last night,comparing himself to the famous comment by Helena Christensen.

“I don’t get out of bed for less than £10,000 per day”

To which Mike added-

“I’ve jumped into one for less though!”

If I ever get the chance to use that line…

Get your dancing shoes on. Pick the nearest lady to you. Turn the volume up real;ly loud:

SOLKITTS

You might remember a few fragments of my 21st in Edinburgh when the Guinness Book of Records phoned us up to ask how much we had put away?

Some much-missed lads on that morning noon and night and morning session.

Losing people pub by pub as they gave up the ghost,and not a single bad word to anyone from any of us. Changed days. Get coked up and see how it goes.

The Gombeen Man

SFTB/Eddieinkirkmichael/Mike,

Thanks for your contributions.

James Connolly’s analysis is so accurate ts as though it was written today.

It’s terrible to think that such a talent was treated so badly in Kilmainham Gaol.

What a tragedy.

HH

Noel Skytrot

BMCUWP,
i’ve had brilliant experiences abroad and met some incredible people due to not giving a fuck about the tshirts i’ve worn, from an amazing rastaman, a survivor of Hillsborough and a Catalonian oul fella who I suspect fought in the Spanish Civil War, just to name a few. The hoops and Celtic are recognised anywhere you go by people you least expect.

NOELSKYTROT

THE HOOOOOPS must be a nightmare for our marketing department,I mean they’re hardly a fashion statement.

Tough shit,because as you say,they are recognisable all over the world. Other,so-called bigger teams,their version of a blue shirt or stripes or all red,etc,are only different because of the sponsors name.

fan-a-tic

The Gombeen Man
Thank you for an enlightening and pertinent article.

A thing of beauty

TGM,
Very informative article. Much appreciated.
To other matters – have we signed a right back yet? Say what you like about sevco but they have a football department that scouts and signs players. Maybe not at a level we would look at but it’s all relative. They will have an option to bed in their new signing next week in a game that’s already won whilst ours, if we actually do sign someone will need to play a champions league qualifier. It’s not ideal really, is it?

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