I assume that I am not alone in wondering how Celtic could have declined from the peak reached in 1967 to the dramatic exits from the CL handed to us by the likes of AEK and Cluj. The specifics of what went wrong are being debated now and that will continue into the future(or, perhaps, only until the next 5-0 victory!).

The fact that we have consistently underperformed in Europe suggests that there is a deeper problem than the ineptitude of a manager, or the failure to recruit players in time, for example. These are just symptoms of a some greater malaise. After all, underperformance in Europe is not just a Celtic issue. Other Scottish clubs suffer from the same problem, as does the national side. I am old enough to remember Dundee’s drive to the semis of the European Cup; Valencia, perennial Fairs Cup winners, getting slaughtered 6-2 by a stuffy Dunfermline, and Dundee United beating quality teams in Europe. Now we see Killie being knocked out of Europe by a part time team from Wales, Connah’s Quay.

Few would argue that the economics of the game have changed dramatically over the decades spanned by my examples above. In soccer, as in other theatres of Life, we see the rich getting richer, and the poor getting exploited. Yet, do we really understand the the “how” and “why” of this change? More importantly, can we do anything about it?

I once attended a boring management seminar but learned one thing of importance. That was, in order to solve a problem, you must first define it.
Let’s take a sideways shift for a minute and talk about big words…two big words in particular…Monopoly and Oligopoly. These are important because they define how we spend our money. A Monopoly means that a particular market or industry is dominated by a single firm. Oligopoly is an extension of that in that the market/ industry is dominated by a small number of firms.

Think about how many companies control markets like Telecom; your credit cards; your airline flights etc. Oligopolies are everywhere.
Now return to the SPL, how many clubs dominate that league. Currently, two, possibly three, but I suspect that Kilmarnock and Aberdeen are declining forces and that it is really just Sevco and ourselves for the current league battle.
Now some of the features of a market controlled by a monopoly/oligopoly are:
1,,, There is no need to innovate to make money
2,,,No need to increase wages .
3,,,No need to improve individual performance.
4,,Is any of this beginning to look familiar?

Celtic have held a monopoly of the Scottish game for the last few years. Would you say you have seen much in the way of innovation during that time? Disco Lights, perhaps? Buying a 9 million pound striker, maybe. Hiring NL?
Wages have increased, mainly through the arrival of BR and his team, and his desire to keep key players. Now that BR has gone there seems to be the realization that in the Scottish market there is no need to gamble on player or management costs if our focus is purely on the domestic game, i.e. downsizing by another name.

On the other side of the city, the opposite is working. They are throwing money at the recruitment side through their manager and their high priced loans/free transfers. Will they succeed? In SPL terms, it does not matter. All that will happen is they will replace Celtic at the top but the disease of oligopoly will continue.
The effect of the domination of Sevco and Celtic is to stifle the development of other clubs who must rebuild year after year, because their best players leave for happier economic situations. Long term, they cannot improve and challenge the Big Two. Survival is their goal.
So how can things change? If I had the answer to that I’d be knocking on the door of the SFA to offer my services. If there is a solution, it will be drastic. It will involve Celtic and Sevco losing the league and winning fewer trophies. At the moment for Sevco this is no hardship!

The introduction of a draft system for recruiting young players coming through the youth divisions of football would be another change that could be fruitful. Similarly, a redistribution of players from the top two clubs to those in the lower positions in the league would be a tested device used in other sports. Both of these suggestions involve fundamental change and are unlikely to happen, unfortunately.

Some catastrophic event could force change. We had a chance of that in 2012 but that has now gone. Say, five of the current Premier League clubs going into administration is another example of how change might be forced.

However, I see no evidence of either the ability nor the desire within Celtic to innovate to take the club to the next level without some external stimulus. Now I am getting depressed so I shall end. Anyway, how many of us want to see Celtic lose the league for the betterment of Scottish football!

The above article was penned by Rebus67.

If you ever wanna get it off yer chest we publish any and all Celtic fans opinions . The Faithful are the best.


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Margaret McGill
August 16, 2019 5:34 am

You can depend on the worst thing always happening

August 16, 2019 5:50 am


Yes, indeed. Perhaps we shall see something of that soon.


August 16, 2019 5:50 am

A well thought out piece.
The fact that i wholeheartedly agree is depressing.

Have our brilliant board emerged from their bunker yet to explain the present fiasco?

August 16, 2019 5:53 am


Tx. Still in the bunker as far as I can see. Maybe they will emerge with a new signing being announced.


Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 6:37 am

Morning all. Uber – hope things are looking up for you buddy. Thoughts are with you and yours.

Rebus – enjoyed the read.

Is Tuesday’s calamitous outcome going to prove the catalyst for positive change? Or is it going to fade over time in the manner previous failures have?

Not that there are too many on this particular site that allow past failings to drift into insignificance. Indeed I think Mahe set this board up with a view to ensuring such failures wouldn’t be allowed to become forgotten.

Indeed he, TET, Bobby, Awe Naw, Mags, Uber and others have been constantly keeping the truth very much in the spotlight.

I think it’s fair to say 95% of regulars on this board are very much ante board /PLC

That 95% is most definitely split in respect of those who attend matches and those who don’t. Difficult to say what that split % would be on this particular forum, but across ALL, I’d suggest the numbers who still attend CP amongst those who disapprove of the PLC, is very much higher than those who do not. Evidenced by a sold out stadium.

These CL failings are not new. What’s the record over the past 6 years or so? 70% failure or thereabouts?
66.66% I think to be exact?

So it’s nothing new. Yet the fallout from this one seems more acute? More widespread?
Why is that? I’d guess some would say it’s because of one of the points I’ve just made? It’s happened for the 4th time in 6 years?

It’s not that though is it? It’s not the failure to achieve the qualification, it’s the fact that this time, it’s very clear that the huns are putting the fear into the support. Losing in Europe but winning number 9, would have the majority of the support happy, but failing to qualify has seen the seeds of doubt that were in the minds of many, grow significantly.

I’d 2 messages yesterday. One said

“ it might be no bad thing we’re out, because we can focus on the title now”

The other said

“ I’m more worried that the huns are gonna win the league. Lennon needs to go now”

Those messages suggest that for many, this is the real concern and why, as I said earlier, this particular failure seems to have resonated with more people than previous ones. Is it “ all about the Rangers” for the vast majority?

I’ve always harboured the opinion that it was a flawed strategy to make winning the SPL a priority. Plan to build a decent European side and the domestic scene will take take care of itself.

(I’d a car once that was a real pig in a poke. Bought it as cheaply as I could . I recall telling the doubters “ ach it gets me from A to B”
The problem was when I needed to get to C! Eventually, the lack of investment and servicing ensured that not only did I never get to C, eventually B became unattainable. For B read SPL and for C read Champions league)

I genuinely believe that it’s exactly that realisation for many, that this season it might be that the SPL is under threat that has seen the furore not generally seen in such widespread numbers.

All well and good of course but what to do? Every time I’m writing something along these lines I’m thinking, Mahe, Awe Naw, TET etc will be reading it thinking

“ you’ve been ******* told so many times that the answer, the only answer is to starve them out”

Yes that’s true. It’s not happening though for reasons that have been discussed to death on here. Emotional attachment. Social belonging, whatever. Bobby, ATOB, CCE and indeed myself on occasion have spoken on that particular aspect.

So what to do? Where’s it gonna go?

Sadly I can’t see any other way but to agree that there is no other way than to stage mass walkouts. Starvation of money. Protests. Regardless of the personal sacrifice that takes. Withdrawal of all funding.
Tears me apart this to-ing and fro-ing on this matter but hell, what other options are there? Open to suggestions to anything that lets us still support the team on the pitch?
Personal sacrifice

Jock Stein said :
“Football is nothing without fans.”
“Cups are not won by individuals, but by men in a team who put their club before personal prestige.

PL should read only the last 6 words of that statement

“Put the club before personal prestige”

I’m conscious having read this back, before hitting the send button, that there’s an awful lot of waffle and no real answers to any important questions, but I’ll bet there’s an whole lot of people who feel similarly? Going round in circles wondering where to go and what to do next.

Maybe those last 6 words are the key, with one final word change for us who can’t bring ourselves to stay away.

“Put the club before personal satisfaction”

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 7:00 am

On the other stuff from last night:

Embezzlement? Fraud?

Serious stuff.

August 16, 2019 7:03 am


Thanks for reading the article. I try to understand the big picture first, then it gives me a hope that I can understand specifics. So if I can grasp what is happening with Scottish football in general, maybe I can see what is going on with our club.

I echo your feelings about withdrawing support for the club. To be honest, I was regretting canceling CelticTV up until last Tuesday. Then it became clear that the club is seriously mis-managed on two levels. Withdrawing my support is all that I can think to do but I suspect I am not missed at all.

For example, most organisations who lost a customer that they had had since the start would have enquired why. They have my email address. It would be easy for them to contact me and others who left. However, not a peep, and that sums up how customer friendly they are.

I have looked around for an alternative but I feel no attachment to Barcelona, Liverpool, Malaga etc. There is no Junior level football here that I can go to to see honest effort either so I am snookered.

Now that Celtic will play Stockholm, I have an interesting dilemma. I have a son who lives in Stockholm. Do I visit him and go along to the game with him?

Nice chatting since I cannot sleep here….at 2.00am


August 16, 2019 7:13 am


Waffle-no better time for such a thing than at breakfast! Actually,I thought it was an excellent post,for a number of reasons.

Your car analogy. Here’s a similar one. If the roads to your work had a maximum speed limit of 30mph,you would have to be a suicidal madman to buy a car which could only achieve that. You always need something extra incase of emergency. We are currently driving a jalopy which could only achieve 30mph if it fell off a cliff. Which we seem intent on doing.

Your other main point,on how to get our dissatisfaction across to the powers that be. Hmmm,difficult one…

We have long known that the only real way of achieving that is by simply not attending. Ever. That means not buying a season ticket,and the merchandising has to go too. But the majority of us know that to get our point across in such a way will hurt the club severely,much more and much quicker than it will hurt the suits. And that the effect would be long-term and possibly catastrophic.

There are so many reasons why we have attended Celtic Park over the years,and none of them have ever involved simply being there to show our support for the suits. Yet,effectively,that IS what we have been doing all this time. It’s a shocker of a conundrum,but we cannot risk killing the club to perhaps oust the suits. They have the equivalent of three seasons worth of ST money sitting in the bank as a cushion. And they could raise that again by selling the players.

In short,we would be trying to starve them out in a siege,a siege where they have near limitless supplies. Read Germinal,by Zola. Principles don’t beat money and power.

And even if we did win,there would be nothing left to show off as our prize.

We could shame them out,but they have no shame. We can’t shoot them as this isn’t the USA. We have to get the goods on them somehow,and force them out. But unless there are some old polaroids doing the rounds of some board members and a very reluctant sheep,that’s out of the question too. And besides,Cameron survived similar.

I’m totally out of options bar the nuclear option. The Weapon of Mass Destruction. No-one EVER wants them used.

But then,we might just get lucky…

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 7:15 am

Can’t sleep?

I tossed and turned from midnight to 2am then got up. Same story. Very frustrating eh!

There are no alternatives to Celtic that fill the gap. Golf junior fitba…. I’m scunnered aff.

Spending time with the grandkids and messing about on bits n pieces but nothing replaces the thrill of the hoops.

Peter will be sleeping well I bet!

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 7:21 am

Yes I know what you’re saying bud. We’re all compromised here.

Think I’ll try boxing again. Only exercise I ever knew that fully de stressed me.

Too fekkin auld though….. i qualify to run in the veterans category now. Ffs.

Is there a boxing club for veterans?

August 16, 2019 7:24 am


Great article. Thought-provoking stuff. I was about halfway through a fairly critical article,ready for the next few days,when I got home from work at 6pm to a tsunami of mails and texts about various things about the club. I don’t have much time on a Thursday,so skimmed them and thought…

Oh shit!

Scrapped the other article-events,dear boy. I’ll get started on another one shortly. I genuinely think things are moving now,that there’s a head of steam building up. The board have been in a comfort zone for so long now that they lack the imagination and the ability to thwart that. We are perhaps a straw away from breaking the camel’s back.

PS-use the link to the matches that THEEXILEDTIM provides. Hesgoal. Excellent quality last week-as streams go!

August 16, 2019 7:28 am


If it’s a boxing club for veterans you’re after,gimme a visit in Kilwinning while I’m home.

Put on The Hooooooops and I’ll do the same. We’ll go for a few beers in a certain pub or six. Can’t guarantee that they’ll stick to The Marquis of Queensbury Rules,of course.

August 16, 2019 7:37 am

Very happy in these tumultuous times to be traveling to keep more important things on my mind.
I return home in 5 days and the real challenge of self distraction from being a Celtic hostage will begin.
Though it pains me to say this board is making my withdrawal symptoms far less severe.
I can see my life improving with far less stress, lower blood pressure and an increase in miles on my daily cycling.
Who knew Peter Lawwell was the new Jane Fonda?

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 7:40 am


Think I’m more fit for the “ haud yer jaiket” role these days ?

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 7:57 am

Fan a tic
There’s a lot of truth in your statement that the board behaviour makes it easier to stay away.

It’ll never fully eliminate the torture though.

Bobby made a jocular comment that we can’t shoot them, it’s not the USA.

I work with 2 American partners. Fed up arguing with them about guns being a bad idea. They’ll never change their opinion and I won’t change mind. Tell ye something though, if this was the USA, there’s a chance someone would’ve taken a shot at removing PL by now!

On a serious note, I wonder how much it would take for DD to sell up? Value of a football club isn’t easy unless they’re about to die, in which case a £1 coin would suffice.

Celtic? With their cash hordes? DD would want way above the share price x their value. Mibbes there is a Bhoy out there with the reserves to do it. Then again mibbes not.?

This is gonna be a very interesting season.

Noel Skytrot
August 16, 2019 8:02 am

Good article Rebus. The malaise is simply that the board simply dont give two hoots about the supporters, as long as we pay in, they’re happy. Sadly for me, its time to withdraw my hard earned money, i’ve had enough. The two season tickets I have will either be thrown in a drawer, or, i’ll see if any of my clan want them. I do this with a heavy heart, but enough is enough.

big packy
August 16, 2019 8:20 am

MORNING ALL,. rebus, smashing read and hits nail on head cap doffed.hh. now just been reading back, wow embezzlement explosive stuff, if we are planning to storm the bastille count me in.hh.

August 16, 2019 8:26 am

Twists n turns
I understand your dilemma as I went through it four years ago. I was sitting in the stand watching us stutter to a 2-0 victory against Ross County when I realised I wasn’t actually enjoying the experience and in truth hadn’t for quite a while. Admittedly, my benchmark was the Lisbon Lions with next high spot being the MON/Larsson era which coincided with my two young sons discovering the joys of Celtic. I was also frustrated and annoyed at the club’s failure to address the cheating and corruption in the Scottish game and decided at that I would not put another penny into the club. I did go through a cold turkey period but now do not regret my decision. I have also found or re-discovered other activities to occupy my time which oddly enough includes a couple of games of five a sides every week which I look forward to much more than watching Celtic. In fact I was playing during Tuesday’s debacle. There are few other things I do but I won’t bore you with the details except to say that if current events are really affecting you to the extent where you can’t sleep, then you are really are better off kicking the hoops habit. Nothing is more important than your health.

The Exiled Tim
August 16, 2019 8:56 am

I think we all wish that we had the answer, sadly there is only one and it hurts, but sometimes the short term pain is worth it for the light at the end of the tunnel.
Of course there will be regrets about with holding your cash in whatever way we make our contributions, but more and more are coming round to that way of thinking, more and more are realising that it’s the only thing that these parasites understand, they need to be starved out, it’s as simple as that.
Great read btw, thanks.
FC not PLC

A thing of beauty
August 16, 2019 9:00 am

Excellent article rebus. We are in a two horse race but at TNT alludes the prize is not winning that race it’s winning the European entry that cwould mes with it. If we had a proper strategy to build a team that can face that challenge every year the two horse race becomes a one horse race. That suits me, if they’re shit I’m happy. Seems it doesn’t suit the suits though. They seem to build the whole business strategy, transfer strategy – call it what you will – around staying one step ahead of the Huns. Again like TNT I have no answer to this but things will not change. It makes money and that’s all DD and PL cares about it seems.
As for next week, I have zero enthusiasm for the europa league but will take my seat as per usual. If there was an official boycott organised I would consider it but that can’t be a one off, it has to be long term and as Bmcuwp stated we will do more damage than we can repair in the long term. So as a support we are between a rock and a hard place.

The Gombeen Man
August 16, 2019 9:32 am


A really good read. I wouldn’t underestimate the impact of your posts over the last year.

The selfless refreshing honesty of your journey have been an inspirational read and I suspect your mature reflections are having a wider impact that you might imagine.

Peter Lawwell has been acting as a football agent, scout, accountant, executive, member of numerous committees for years.

An ego out of control usually stems from a lack of self-esteem. The ego becomes more and more insatiable trying to establish security, affirmation or control externally through things like money or property etc.

It’s basically down to a lack of love for oneself and the illusion that it can be obtained in outside stuff.

Football and blogs is fertile ground for our egos to go into overdrive and so honest contributors like Rebus are valuable.

Who knows what’s been going on and it would be ironic if ‘London Road Police Office’ get involved.

Pedro’s tenure going back to his thinly veiled resentment of Martin O’Neill has been a cycle of underachievement and exploitation of vulnerable supporters who are addicted to Celtic.

The Plc are just profiteers who exploit the Celtic emotional brand.

Monetising the Scottish Catholic Diaspora as an apt description.

There will be plenty of finger-pointing in the weeks to come and who knows what the outcome will be?

Fair play to BMCUWPs and Mahe for setting up this independent site.

Many of the other sites have compromised themselves beyond a quick repair many months ago.

Perhaps the ego of Peter Lawwell is Sevco’s biggest asset? Didn’t another site tell us about how bad Dave King is for Ibrox?

I’ll leave it there.


August 16, 2019 9:54 am

Brilliant article Rebus, and some excellent posts this morning. I hope and pray that the wider Celtic support are wakening up to this scandalous situation, and I believe they are, slowly but surely. We must save this club that we all love dearly. This coming season could be a watershed. So grateful to Mahe and BMCUW for this platform.

August 16, 2019 10:18 am


If I were to sum up what your article conveys in one word, that word would be “laziness.”

Why work hard to keep the game healthy when folk are prepared to turn up anyway.

Bada Bing
August 16, 2019 10:22 am

First up, the Swedes make the journey to Paradise for the all-important first leg on Thursday, August 22 (KO 7:45pm), with the return leg to be played in the Friends Arena the following Thursday, August 29.

Show your support and get behind the Bhoys by securing your seat now, with tickets on sale to Season Ticket holders, priced:

– £20 for adults
– £10 for concessions
– £5 for under-13s

A thing of beauty
August 16, 2019 10:46 am

Bada bing 1022
I suppose £20 was as small a price as we could expect.

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 10:56 am

I can’t think of a single post you’ve made that I’ve not enjoyed. Just re read your one from today and it made even better reading second time around.

Like Awe Naw yesterday. That post he thumped out yesterday was worth a second read.

More and more posters on here are compelling reading.

Speaking of posters, hope Uber ok. Very unlike him not to make an appearance. Hope all good with his niece.

Bada Bing
August 16, 2019 10:57 am

ATOB- £10 & £5 would have been a gesture….HH

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 11:10 am


bada bing1
ATOB- £10 & £5 would have been a gesture….HH


Or a public admission of their failings? ?

August 16, 2019 11:13 am

bada bing1
ATOB- £10 & £5 would have been a gesture….HH
Not going regardless of the price is the only gesture that will get the message across to the board.

Starve them out like we did in 1994 and 2016.

Bada Bing
August 16, 2019 11:22 am

Lawwell’s starting salary £249k,he’s taken nearly £15.4 m out of the Club so far

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 11:45 am

M6 Bhoy
Thanks for your response. Tbh it’s not just Celtic that affect my health . I’m just one of those types. Stress fairly easy over all things and everything.

Yoga or some fekkin similar activity is perhaps what I need ?

All suggestions welcome. ?

Bada Bing
August 16, 2019 11:52 am

Twists n turns
M6 Bhoy
Thanks for your response. Tbh it’s not just Celtic that affect my health . I’m just one of those types. Stress fairly easy over all things and everything.

Yoga or some fekkin similar activity is perhaps what I need ?

All suggestions welcome. ?

Stop watching Celtic?

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 12:02 pm

You and I know …. you can stop going… but you’ll never ever be able to stop watching. It’s actually more stressful I find when you’re not there.

Radio… tv… dodgy streams…. not conducive to settling the nerves.

You know what I discovered over the years:

If I’m at a game v them, and we are a goal in front, I’m still on edge .

Get 2 up and unless there’s only 5 mins or so left, I’m still edgy. Anxious.

However – go a goal down? I immediately feel less stressed! I think it’s the deflation factor!!

Those 5 goal skelpings we dished out regularly over recent times were great. Sheer joy from practically start to finish.

So by default- that means then going one up every game is the healthiest option for me?

Shoorly shum mishtake??

Bada Bing
August 16, 2019 12:03 pm

Twists- not making light of your situation, hope you’re back to your best soon HH

The Gombeen Man
August 16, 2019 12:30 pm

Would giving up Celtic reduce stress?

Probably the problem is I’d instantly find something else to replace it.

It’s more to do with finding a way to stop thinking about Celtic…or whatever the problem is.

Thinking is my primary addiction… My programme for happiness. That compulsion to control or fix things, for security or affirmation.

It’s fear based really.

The gap between my thoughts is where peace is. Something to focus on like the breath (Latin for Spirit), cycling, meditation.

When I realised that the stress was coming from me and my thinking and found tools to use my blood pressure and stress levels reduced dramatically.

The tools are easy to find and life is much easier with them.


The Exiled Tim
August 16, 2019 12:43 pm

A couple of things spring to mind.
Pedro was appointed as CEO in September 2003, 3-4 months after MoN took us to a euro final, it wasn’t long after that MoN uttered those fateful words ” Welcome to the slow lane “.
Lawwell has taken us from a euro final to qualification failure, all the while taking £15+ million for the club, now if that is someone who is a true Celtic fan, God forbid if he wasn’t.
Our club is in the top sixty richest clubs on the planet, twenty of those straight away are in the EPL, then you have the top clubs from the big leagues, so in effect we are in that very small band that is just below the top tier, yet we are also rans on the pitch, this mi amigos is shocking, we are being run so badly it’s quite insulting to anyone who actually takes time to think about it.
We are a total shambles, we are miles away from being a well run club, anyone who actually believes that really needs re educated.
FC not PLC

The Gombeen Man
August 16, 2019 1:10 pm

I see Pedro has wheeled out his megaphones on Complicit Quick News.

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 1:21 pm

The Gombeen man
Very thoughtful and educational post.


Oh geez I know bud. I know you’re not the type of fella to make light of serious situations.

I should add though… I’m not claiming I’m ill . I definitely do suffer from stress and blood pressure but there’ll be millions just like me.

As TGM just very delightfully said, it’s in our own hands to take the steps required towards a more peaceful life.

Some of us – me very much included- don’t help ourselves!

The Exiled Tim
August 16, 2019 1:29 pm

I noticed that, when things get a tad warm the usual suspects are wheeled out to quell the rebellion, I have a feeling that this time it might not be so easy.

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 1:46 pm

I simply can’t read CQN

I’m not joking the site is a joke with adverts bouncing my screen all over the place. It’s the only site I get those issues.

I’ve had numerous people tell me to turn off Java script, blah blah, but nope I won’t. I shouldn’t have to.
Must be making enough out of advertising on there that they can sort it out.

I’m not suggesting they don’t advertise, it’s very much up to the CQN site owners for want of a better phrase.

That brings me to a point I decided to ignore a few days ago, as there were intense debates taking place on Celtic matters.

Mahe , in an exchange with ( I think) ATOB made a reference to the costs of running a site. Let me emphasise – Mahe wasn’t complaining-and he didn’t mention an amount- he just mentioned it in making a point about something or other.

It struck me that this site is ad free which by default means the costs have to be met by Mahe . ( perhaps Bobby too – I genuinely don’t know ) but it’s irrelevant to my point. I know Mags has assisted with the site, again, only because it was referred to when Bobby was trying to log in and having problems.

Should there be some support method available? Entirely voluntary- I’m not trying to suggest a “ pay
to post” type setup .

Would Mahe \ Bobby even allow it? Would they accept support?

This site is in its infancy. The old CQN site was fantastic at one time with its charitable causes. Still a few Bhoys on there doing the charitable work I believe.

Could SC start a charitable effort? If donations were made to cover costs and any additional monies allocated to a charitable cause?

Thinking aloud folks

Mahe / Mick

Please don’t think I’m trying to dictate policy here. I’m most definitely not. I’m just thinking it’d be nice to be able to contribute in some way for anyone able and willing to do so.

I think this site could go on to become a major player in the Celtic blogging world. I’d love to see it happen. You should be proud of progress to date .

August 16, 2019 2:02 pm

Good morning folks and happy Frige day.
Rebus many thanks for the article pal.
It is indeed a monopoly,,a game I cant say I enjoy much just like the sphell.
I believe innovation is seen as a bad word in our boardroom. At least 20 quid is reasonable for the playoff. Kids free would a been better.

Twists the site costs buttons . Most ex Pat’s have done well anyway.
If anyone wants to contribute its articles and comments only.
Try cbd for sleep btw. 140 mph? Joyrider!
As for charity 1st September will bring news,,good news.
It’s true we have done well attracting our numbers, to kick on we need to convert some lurkers to posters.
The same twenty or so people hold the site together.
Not complaining as they are a fab 20 .
We will get there.
I can announce I intend another quiz at 8pm next Saturday the 24th. Woo hoo.

Hail Hail

The Gombeen Man
August 16, 2019 2:08 pm



‘The Charge of the Sh**e Brigade.’

I read some nonsense about BR taking apart our magnificent recruitment model. Do they really expect us to buy that? A copy and paste of our incoming and outgoing players over the last ten years is an easy job.

Too many fingers in the entitlement pie who sold domination to the support while colluding with the Sevvies.

The same old arrogant mantra.

Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 2:12 pm

Sounds interesting on the “ good news”

I look forward to it.

I absolutely agree you have attracted some top quality contributors and yes it’ll grow. Undoubtedly.

Good luck……

August 16, 2019 2:12 pm

Mahe, can you explain very carefully to Packy, how the quiz works. The wee soul got mixed up last time. I on the other hand understood the rules but came last! 🙁

August 16, 2019 2:24 pm


Just up after a long lie in today. Thanks for the kind words. My fear was that the article would come across as Monotony rather than Monopoly!

To be fair other leagues are oligopolies, Portuguese, Spanish, Italian etc but they are not moribund like the Scottish league. Why? Possible reasons are they have teams that compete in Europe and many have large inputs of TV money. So, although these leagues have their big two or three, these clubs are challenged in Europe and it is this challenge that motivates them, not the domestic game.

Uber, you are in my thoughts. Family is everything.


The Gombeen Man
August 16, 2019 2:28 pm


CQN was my go-to site for a number of years but I very rarely go there now.

I’m not bothered by adverts, but CQN seems to have adopted our club’s model and have crossed the line with adverts all over the place.

I’ve no problem with P67s change in emphasis. He stopped doing what attracted me to the site and the editorials just read like a predictable tabloid waffle.

It just isn’t interesting and feels like a once good independent newspaper that swallowed up by a greedy multinational.

The younger supporters don’t frequent CQN as far as I know. They might be the ones to turn the tide?

They communicate via Twitter etc and if their mood continues to change they might be decisive. Maybe us all codgers aren’t as important as our egos would have us believe?

Incompetence, negligence or something more sinister I’ve no idea but its remarkable how folk can screw up a good hand.

It just keeps repeating in seven year cycles, I guess.


Mike in Toronto
August 16, 2019 3:00 pm


nice that you would want to help our leaders here…. but you must be a bit behind …

I heard a rumor that they dont need the money because Mahe is actually Peter Lawwell, and BMCUWP is P67 in disguise… SC was actually all a clever ruse set up to throw us anti-Board people off their trail…

they are very sneaky those two.


Mike in Toronto
August 16, 2019 3:06 pm

and I can prove it …

haw you ever seen Mahe and Peter Lawwell in the same room?

I rest my case.


Twists n turns
August 16, 2019 3:08 pm

Old codgers?

With age comes wisdom – apparently ?


There could be some truth in that?

Not sure about the rumour doing the rounds that you’ve a log in on Follow Follow and keep flitting between there and here? Are you Kenny Miller? ?

The Exiled Tim
August 16, 2019 3:10 pm

Why don’t we buy Bury FC and play the kids till we sort things , it would cost very little and it’s an direct route into the english game, I’m sure it could be done.

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