Looking to the long term.

Morning,all.

After a thoroughly depressing summer transfer window-I think that’s four out of the last five,or to put it another way,par for the course-where we lost our star homegrown player along with our entire defence and their deputies,we were probably thanking our lucky stars a week ago that we hadn’t lost anyone else!

And with some justification too. Rumours were rife that Porto were after Olivier Ntcham and that Leicester were keen on Callum McGregor. These two had a strong element of truth to them,in my opinion. Not so much the recently surfaced one about Monaco agreeing a deal in principle for I Wanna,only to to change their mind.

And then change it back again,at which point Eddie told them to sod off! Naturally,none of the papers could provide much in the way of evidence for all this. They couldn’t even make up the “agreed price” although it would undoubtedly have been less than they still think MoreLoss is worth.

So it was with some pleasure that we found out yesterday that Celtic plan to tie up a new long term deal for CalMac,all the more so when the offer was revealed to be in the region of £35k a week. The reason I was so pleased at the suggestion is that Celtic seem to have,at long last,woken up to the realities of football economics. Remember,it wasn’t so long ago that the club shunted Joe Lesley out the door for a reduced fee for suggesting that he was happy to sign a new contract on the same terms as before,and it is widely believed that the same plan existed at the end of Broonie’s first contract,a plan only scuppered by a timely phone call.

I am still of the opinion that we have a strong nucleus in the playing squad,with Ryan Christie,CalMac,James Forrest,Leigh Griffiths,Eddie and Ollie. Michael Johnston too is improving with every game. And all of these players are already on recently signed long term contracts. None of them run out before summer 2022,and we should be looking to build the team around them while dangling the carrot of improved terms and longevity. Four of the seven have time very much on their side to move to riches on offer elsewhere if they so desire-the offers will undoubtedly come if they continue to improve as they have been-while the other three are hardly reaching yet for the pipe and slippers.

In addition to the seven mentioned above,I very much doubt that any of our new signings will be on less than a four year deal. As too is Tom Rogic,and I would expect Fraser Forster to be offered similar at the end of the season-if he can be persuaded to take a wage cut. I think Southampton will be relatively easy to deal with as he is on a five year deal at c£4m pa. If we sign him at the end of the season they will have saved £10m on wages alone. I suspect that will concentrate their minds wonderfully.

Add in the rejuvenated Nir Bitton who will almost definitely have a contract on the table for Christmas and the future is looking a bit brighter than it was maybe three weeks ago. That’s not to say that I’m delighted with the transfer window-I personally think we should be looking to improve in each of them,and we clearly haven’t done so for a while-but in an era when the club loyalties of players are rightly questioned,we can be happy that we have so many who clearly love playing in The Hoooops.

Open the biscuit tin and let the players know that the rewards are there for excellence and you never know,we might even see a testimonial or two before too long!

******

Above article by BMCUWP.

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Twists n turns
September 10, 2019 6:27 am

Morning Bobby
There was me thinking as I mused over yesterday’s events:

What will Bobby be writing this morning? I decided it would be about Scotland last night. I’m glad I was wrong though. I’m not interested in Scotland’s failings other than the fact they made me money. Wasn’t always thus though .

Buchan
Souness
Dalglish
Jordan
Bremner
Stanton
Murdoch
Jinky
Gray
Lorimer
Gilzean
Cooke
Law
Lennox
Mcalliog
Baxter

To

O’Donnell
Mctominay
Phillips
McLean
Russell
Fraser
Jack
McBurnie

(I can’t name any more other than Celtic players and I’m not putting them in with the above shower of shite.)

100,000 plus on the slopes of Hampden to half empty stadiums.
Setting up our wembley fund in the local pub every other year to – who gives a fff?

What happened? Seriously- wtf happened?

Street fitba’ got stopped? No ball games?
X- boxes? Kids teams over coached? Under coached? School teams? Nae school teams? Money? Parents?
Coaches? The SFA?

Shall it ever improve?

Belgium. Not exactly a huge population in comparison to Scotland. Maybe 10 million people? What did / do they do different?

Actually- does anybody care anymore?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
September 10, 2019 6:47 am

TWISTSNTURNS

WTF happened? It’s a pity that you can’t make the hoot on 21/9. ATHINGOFBEAUTY will be there,for instance,and she could give you chapter and verse on it,based on her own experience.

Basically,it seems to have been down to a complete failure across the board. Councils cut back funding so parks and pitches weren’t available,either for bounce or organised games. Schools lost interest-and many of them lost their playing fields too. Teachers stopped volunteering for extra-curricular stuff in the face of wage disputes.

That’s the stuff at the very grass roots. Kids had nowhere to play and nobody to help them either. And they couldn’t play on the streets like we did,that’s for sure! Take that away from them and they will find an outlet elsewhere. But the biggest problem-and I’ll leave ATHINGOFBEAUTY to elaborate on this-is what happens later. When clubs and the football authorities get involved. You’ll tear your hair out,mate!!!

Twists n turns
September 10, 2019 7:04 am

Bobby
Yeah I look forward to ATOB elaborating on your point if she has the time.

As a nation we are on the slide….. with no signs of reaching the bottom as far as I can see.

There was a glimmer . A faint glimmer. WGS turned to Brendan’s invincibles. We were on a run. Getting results.

One failure to qualify – sack Strachan and get Eck in.

Excuse the profanity but fuck me.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
September 10, 2019 7:12 am

JIMTHETIM53

I think you put The Green Mile in amongst your favourite films last night.

It’s on Film4 tonight at 9pm. Best get a box of matches for your eyes,it doesn’t finish till quarter to one!

31003
September 10, 2019 7:49 am

Twists

I was thinking exactly the same. What have Belgium done that we haven’t in the intervening years?

Big Audio Dynamite
September 10, 2019 8:03 am

“Imagine what Eddie would be worth it he was Colombian”

Don’t use Twitter, but that made me chuckle this morning.

Big Audio Dynamite
September 10, 2019 8:06 am

The Daily Record reporting Morelos has scored 5 goals in training this week ?

Big Audio Dynamite
September 10, 2019 8:21 am

Bobby- If I’m winding up any bear mates, I just mention Fredo and coke in the same sentence ?

big packy
September 10, 2019 8:23 am

MORNING ALL, big audio dynamite, thanks for your kind thoughts from last week much appreciated.?? now to last night bobby / twisty, what a shambles, I even started a thread about movies on the blog last night to take my mind off the game, then jim comes on with updates from the radio bless him, went to bed in the end, and still don’t know the final score. aye but its still grate to be Scottish.?

The Exiled Tim
September 10, 2019 8:28 am

Don’t quote me on this but I recall reading somewhere that like the Germans, the Belgians, the Belgian FA that is decided about twenty years ago to radically change how the game was run and put the emphasis on the weans and how they are coached and the leagues were encouraged to do the same, it has worked for the Germans and it sure seems to be working for the Belgians, but if the huns arny interested……and they won’t be cos anything that scraped away at their supremacist delusion is a non starter.
Maybes it’s not resulting in Belgian teams winning on a euro level but the clubs are managing to sell players for much better fees, so in that respect.

Big Audio Dynamite
September 10, 2019 8:29 am

Packy

If the last week proved anything, it’s that you should never suffer in silence. I tip my hat to your bravery.

Hope you have seen how well thought of you are.

big packy
September 10, 2019 8:32 am

THE EXILED TIM, on a movie theme, its not the bourne supremacy. its the hun supremacy.hh.

big packy
September 10, 2019 8:34 am

BIG AUDIO DYNAMITE, cheers?

Big Audio Dynamite
September 10, 2019 8:34 am

From King Kenny and the Lawman to Oli McBurnie.

Jesus wept!

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
September 10, 2019 8:39 am

BIGAUDIODYNAMITE.

McBurnie was Gash. We’d have been better off wi Wee Burnie.

Jaiket,offski…

big packy
September 10, 2019 8:41 am

see some people on twitter, saying we are comparable with san marino, I take exception to that, we urny that good.hh.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
September 10, 2019 8:59 am

BIGPACKY

San Marino has a Grand Prix going for it. We’re stuck wi some big pricks.

mahe
September 10, 2019 10:14 am

Good morning folks from a glorious County Antrim awash with sun for a few hours.
Read a few scores this morning ,, zero interest.
I was sitting here thinking the lads are a wee bit harsh maybe saying theres not a decent team out there anymore.
Just off the top of the head ,,
Gordon ,, Robertson ,, Tierney,, Taylor,,Mc Ginn ,, Forrest,,Griffiths,,Calmac ,, Johnston,,and then you guys would know the domestic scene to add more faces then theres the Scots in the Epl or abroad,,,McBurnie,,Harper,,Armstrong,,Morrison,,Snodgrass,,Richie,,McTominay,,,
Surely theres a team in there somewhere?
No one thinks theres not a good 11 Scots all together?
I think there is which would tell me its on the coach and management to get the best from them.
Football is very cyclical but clever plannning can ensure you do well.
As usual its the governing bodies that are the issue,,Hampden holds back the game at their own pace to control events as they like.
Emptying Hampden would help in the future maybe. A complicit media and non unified supporters groups and networks make that easy to derail.
In fairness Brexit is probably the biggest issue right now for this part of the globe.
Footballing structure changes can be looked at later. Hopefully.
If the public have any faith in politicians in another few years I will be amazed.
If it wasnt soo serious it would be comical.

Hope all are well today. God Bless those less fortunate.
Hail Hail

Awe Naw
September 10, 2019 11:32 am

I feel sorry for you poor “Celtic” hard c bastards. Never having experienced that feeling of your team winning the World Cup. Mens and Womens. Whereas I have enjoyed my team participating in the WC Finals ten times only. I watched our boys team toy with the Nordies yesterday. Cat mouse etc.

Mahe
September 10, 2019 11:59 am

Then take that Saltire off the wall 🙂
To be world champs from tiny islands takes some doing . The Kiwis only manage because of the native help.
The Brits with a bad goal and home advantage.
If Keano had stayed we were in the semis , once there anything can happen.
Were quite a few of your adopted countrymen out and about here over the weekend. Shared table with few.
Hail Hail

Awe Naw
September 10, 2019 12:18 pm

Mahe
Then take that Saltire off the wall ?

It´s on the fucking list believe me.

Mahe
September 10, 2019 12:28 pm
jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 12:28 pm

😉 🙂 🙁 ;(

Mahe
September 10, 2019 12:36 pm

Hi Jim hope all good Sir.
First sausage roll for breakfast and sure didn’t the wee girl eat half of it.
My half was lovely I gotta say.
How’s it goin ?
Hail Hail

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 12:39 pm

Hiya Mahe, hope you’re enjoying the holidays. Was it a sausage roll or a roll and sausage? A sausage roll would be a strange breakfast.

Twists n turns
September 10, 2019 12:40 pm

Jim

Romantic eh…

As jack or victor wid say

“ birthday caird pish” ?

My wife is always telling me I’m not romantic enough. No idea where she gets that from.

Mind you – she said to me recently
“ I can’t remember the last time you enjoyed sex”

I told her

“ why would you remember? You weren’t there”?

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 12:42 pm

I’ve got a flat battery! I under use the car and just short runs. I need to go for a good old run. My brother in law is in spain just now so I will get a jump start when he comes back on Thursday. No hurry!

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 12:45 pm

TnT, I couldn’t read that clip from The Independent. I have Ad Blocker on!

Mahe
September 10, 2019 12:50 pm

https://www.amazon.co.uk/ALLPOWERS-Maintainer-Cigarette-Automobile-Motorcycle/dp/B073XK9KC3/ref=mp_s_a_1_12?keywords=solar+panel&qid=1568115866&s=gateway&sr=8-12

Jim that’s what you need. Couple hours good to go or just keep hooked up when parking for a few days.
A sausage roll is a classic breakfast here . In my mind anyway.
And a roll isn’t a roll here it’s a bap. Lunch tomorrow is Indian, cant wait been years since last proper one.
Aye I’m loving it. That black stuff is truly nectar of the Gods.
Here , one of the lads was telling me there’s a place makes a kebab and puts the entire thing in the middle of a Calzone. Dont know whether to laugh or cry. 😉
Hail Hail

Awe Naw
September 10, 2019 12:57 pm

Tuesday 10 September 2019 by Rhydderch Wilson

‘You have nothing to fear from a no-deal Brexit’ insist nation’s millionaires and billionaires

nothing to fear from no-deal brexit

Britain’s millionaires and billionaires have very kindly taken time out of their busy schedules to reassure peasants throughout the country that there is nothing to fear from Britain leaving the EU without a deal.

“Even if the worst projections come true, Britain will recover and will come back stronger than ever before,” said one such billionaire, hedge fund manager Sir Morris Dancer.

Speaking from one of his numerous London homes where he was celebrating being awarded a knighthood or something for once brushing past Theresa May in a corridor, he continued, “Alright, it may take a couple of generations.

“But if you had passed your exams and got yourself a job in the city and gone to Eton then you’d be better prepared to weather the storm, wouldn’t you?”

There were supportive words also from multi-millionaire business bastard Toby Carvery, who said, “By making a clean break from Europe, myself and others like me can continue to avoid bothersome EU rules and regulations which prevent me making more money, and the greater my personal wealth the more money trickles down to the plebs in the street. ‘Trickle down’, see. It’s been proven and everything.”

But aren’t they worried that a no-deal Brexit could impact on their own business interests?

“No. I’ve moved all my business interests out of Britain,” said Sir Dancer, “and I would advise all the little people out there to do the same. Just in case.”

So it would seem that, despite all the fear-mongering, there is nothing for working-class oiks to fear from a no-deal Brexit after all.

If Britain’s morally irreproachable millionaires and billionaires say so, then it must be true.

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 1:05 pm

Why do I still fall for it every now and again? It took me to line 7 of the post – Sir Morris Dancer !!!

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 1:13 pm

I seen Morris Dancers twice. At Belle Vue in Manchester. Used go every year in September for years. There was a pub at the front entrance to the complex where we used to go into. There is nothing like being away for the week-end with your pals, sitting with a pint and looking out the window at the Morris Dancers outside strutting their stuff. Happy days!

Then going into The Kings Hall (5 thousand!) to hear Grimethorpe Colliery, Black Dyke Mills, Brighouse & Rastrick, Fodens etc.

fan-a-tic
September 10, 2019 1:17 pm

AWE NAW
Brilliant even if a little too close to the bone for comfort.
HH

fan-a-tic
September 10, 2019 1:29 pm

Watching tv and a coffee ad with golden sunlight pouring through the window accompanied by a gentle breeze moving the curtains.
Smile on the peoples faces at their first gentle sip suggests nirvana .
Thinking back to the old Hovis ad with the kid on cobblestones and a colliery band soundtrack.
Did anyone actually like Hovis bread?
I liked it and always preferred Brown bread but my friends said it was horrible and i was weird.
Does nostalgia always taste delicious and can any food or drink ever match the advertising hype?

Twists n turns
September 10, 2019 2:11 pm

Fan a tic
I’m gonna go off on a tangent here but nevertheless…. advertising hype you referred to.

Was in my mums there. She asked me to read a letter for her. “ I don’t understand it” she said.

A letter telling her that her life insurance policy was now part of the Aviva group. Not to worry though. She’d still get £2200 when she died. Also, if she makes it to 95, she doesn’t need to pay anything else and the £2200 will still be paid

I said to her

“ mum how much do you pay a month for this”

£20 per month

“ when did you take it out?”

Oh, over 20years ago

“ do you know that means you’ve already paid almost £5000 into this??

Yes but if I cancel now I won’t have any life insurance?

“I’ll worry about that “

Maybe I should just leave it?

“ but if you live till 95 you’ll have paid £8k plus into this??”

Well I know but what can I do now? You see it advertised on tv with Michael Parkinson and the like so thought it would be ok? He wouldn’t get involved surely if it’s a scam?

“ it’s not a scam mum it’s a bloody rip off.”

Gimme the letter ???

Phoned them. ( had to get mum to authorise me to deal on her behalf)

What’s the cash in value of this policy number?

£1550.

Cash it in.

After reading out a pile of blurb “ where do we transfer the money too?. Which account?”

The same fkn one you’ve taken £5k out of over the last 20 years.

Bastards ????£2.2k? Wouldn’t bury ye these days anyway???

I understand of course if she’d died 15 years ago she’d have made money but geez us surely after 20 years you’re paid up!!

Rant over ?

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 2:11 pm

A thing of beauty
September 10, 2019 2:15 pm

Without wishing to go into chapter and verse of my own football coaching experiences suffice to say that I know why Scotland are shite. It’s because football has been turned into a middle class sport. I hate to agree with kris boys but what he said last night is correct. Once a player gets to say 11, though sometimes earlier the pro youth are taking them on but in most cases only the ones who can afford to travel to the training centre. Now for Celtic for a while back after barrow field was mothballed that was Lennoxtown. I coached in a deprived primary school in north Ayrshire. How are my boys meant to get to Lennoxtown. Ah but what about killie I hear you say or Ay?. Fair enough, but a bus to kilmarnock still costs around £3. Try this three times a week when your parents are on benefits. Then factor in away games. Clubs don’t put on buses, parents transport them. Aberdeen anyone?!! Ok another parent could give you a lift but what if that curtails your own boys chances of playing cos the wee poor guy is much better. Oh sorry son we’re visiting relatives on the way back. Subsequently it’s a sport for the middle class. Now my friend is middle class and her boy has been through pro youth to the premier league and she tells stories about her wee jalopy parked between the Audi’s, Mercs and beamers. Of boys who can’t kick their own arse having THREE different pairs of the latest boots cristiano Ronaldo is hawking. This is not the breeding ground for winners. People like Bertie auld that would kick their granny to win a game. Dalgeish, souness even. Guys who needed to play for fear of a life of drudgery in the shipyard or wherever. School football stopping was the death knell for football in this country. We know it was thatchers policy that was at the root of this but teaching is a vocation and vocations don’t stop at 330pm. Youth clubs tried to pick up the slack but it was no replacement for the school system. Pro youth then stepped in in the mid 90s and we are where we are now. Gubbed. Because we all know when you allow the sfa and spfl anywhere near football it’s doomed.
Steve Clarke is now dealing with the players this system has produced. Over coached, under skilled, entitled nobodies who are not fit to lace the boots of legends gone before. Ollie mcburnie is possibly the worst player I have ever seen. A touch like an elephant, head down, running around with no finesse or thought what so ever. Now as I wrote that I realised that I was actually describing Ollie Burke. They’re both the same – garbage. One has moved for £20m and one for £15m so they’re made for life but they are not footballers. Meanwhile my boys are now either in the grip of addiction or on the buroo. There are others who have managed to get decent jobs. It’s those I’d like to tap into. It’s my dream to set up a local fund where those who have made it contribute a monthly standing order to a common fund for children less fortunate. So the underprivileged of the next generation can get to football, scouts, tennis, karate – whatever their interest is. Not worked out how or when but one day I hope I can. All areas like mine need something to help others along. It’s only right.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
September 10, 2019 2:24 pm

ATHINGOFBEAUTY

No way was I gonna steal your thunder on this,once TWISTSNTURNS had asked the question!

Terrific answer. Take a bow…

Twists n turns
September 10, 2019 2:27 pm

ATOB
Absolutely brilliant.

I’m dashing out on an errand to my mum in laws but I’ll respond fully when back.
Very quickly though – I was involved myself for a short period. I was doing hundreds of miles a week picking up and dropping off the “ poor” kids cos they’d no other way of getting to training or matches.

The rich parents – always some fkn excuse why they couldn’t help.

Also- when fund raising? I needed strips bags balls cones etc – always the ones who could least afford it who got me the most sponsors on the forms.

I even had a parent tell me that on a trip to Blackpool once I was arranging to play in a tournament, that wee well heeled Joe wouldn’t be doubling up in a room in the hotel with wee hard up Harry. I’m not kidding btw.
The fekkers didn’t tell me to my face though. Waited until they knew I was training and went to my house to tell my wife!!

More later …

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 2:28 pm

ATOB, Incredibly good post, could have been a lead article! (Give Bobby or Mahe a day off too!) Hope you announce any plans you have on here.

big packy
September 10, 2019 2:47 pm

ATOB great post,??

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 2:49 pm

Packy, Did you like Danny Boy? It’s from Brassed off – a good film,!

big packy
September 10, 2019 2:51 pm

JIM ,talking of belle vue, been there many times, did you know there used to be a mock up of the rovers return from coronation street in there, where you could have your pic taken drinking a pint.hh.

big packy
September 10, 2019 2:51 pm

JIM.brilliant??

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 2:54 pm

Packy, that rings a bell, but can’t say I was ever in it. There was a wee roller coaster in it I was on a few times but when I wasn’t in the hall I was usually in the pub! There was a bit of a zoo as well but I gave that a miss too!

It was my pals leading me astray – honest!

fan-a-tic
September 10, 2019 2:58 pm

ATOB
Great post though heartbreaking.
As i have posted before my nephews 3 boys are all at Hamilton.
The oldest just signed his first professional contract and the two others are pro youth i believe.
They are lucky that their father runs his own businesses and can take the time required to drive them everywhere.

big packy
September 10, 2019 2:58 pm

FAN-A-TIC, talking about the hovis advert, I walked up that hill with the dogs a few years ago, its in dorset, I was knackered when I got to the top?

jimthetim53
September 10, 2019 3:02 pm

Fan-A-Tic, ATOB, My cousin’s son was in the Hamilton youth set up. They spoke very highly of it. Luckily the lad’s grandfather was retired and spent a huge amount of time driving him to and from training & games.

Awe Naw
September 10, 2019 3:03 pm

AOTB,

The last three generations of winning footballers has come mainly from France, Spain and Germany

Do not kid yourself on that this is due to immigration within these lands or that there is an explosion of working classishness within these countries that has boosted their local talent.

No it is because they got their priorities right when it came to the plan for developing young footballers. They invested in the academies (facilities) and the coaches and they also invested in the players themselves. If any club had a young Messi on their books and he couldn´t afford the bus fare then this would get sorted. He would be given a grant.

Scottish football is dead. Truthfully since Jim McLean teams stopped competing in Europe. I.e since Sir David Murray bought Rangers, The SPL and the SFA

Any parent who keeps his children away from professional football in Scotland is doing the right thing.

Why would you want your child associated with these crooks and child molestors ? To desire that is beyond perversion.

fan-a-tic
September 10, 2019 3:05 pm

jimthetim53
Brassed off is a wonderful movie .
I posted this scene a few weeks ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pcG9vcb3VUI
Gets me every time.