Three Points,End Of.

Morning,all.

From “Hail,Hail! The Fitba’s Back!!!” to “Three Points,End Of.” I think that should tell you how poor a game of football that was on Saturday. Enough to get football stopped,in fact.

There are just so many things wrong with Hamilton Accies even being in the same league as us. But they are there on merit-inasmuch as they won promotion a few years back and haven’t been relegated. What cannot be denied is that their stadium is a really poor advert for the game in Scotland,and that their playing surface is simply not good enough for this level. Or any level,come to that.

We have at least five games to play on this or similar surfaces this season. We best get used to it,I suggest. Even as we lobby behind the scenes to get them banned! Anyway,I digress…

The game,aye. We made two changes to the starting line-up from the huns match. Kris Ajer came in for Nir Bitton at centre-back-swapping one injured player for one who currently isn’t!-and Mohamed Elyounoussi made his debut for us,replacing the injured Michael Johnston on the left. As replacements go,not a bad one.

We started like a whirlwind,if I’m honest. And it was a cross from the new boy which James Forrest got onto the end of after only four minutes to give us the lead. Against a team which had lined up with ten men behind the ball,this is exactly what you need. It forces them to come out and try to score at least one so that they can get something out of the game. Which of course means that the viewing public might get the chance to see a decent game of football.

Hamilton hadn’t read the script though,and stuck to the ten men behind the ball. Dunno why I should have been surprised,of course. So they didn’t come out and try to score after they went a goal down? So what? They don’t have a bloody grass pitch either,or a stadium with four sides to it.

The Hamilton Triangle-The Land That Football Wishes It Could Forget!

Later on in the game,JF hit the bar from our only other shot on target in the entire match. We made a few substitutions,with Tom Rogic making his first appearance of the season at last. Hamilton had a shot on goal and another half-chance and that was all she wrote.

Three points,end of. And it is,we take that and move onto the more important matches to come over the next three weeks. Rennes (A), Kilmarnock (H), Thistle (H), Hibs (A) Cluj (H), Livingston (A)

After these six matches,I hope to have seen three of them in the flesh and three on the telly. That’s my personal goal. From the fan standpoint,I want four points or more in Europe. A place in The League Cup semi final. Nine points in the league. I don’t think that’s too much to ask for! If we achieve that,it will certainly give us an excellent chance in each of those competitions. The return of Tom Rogic and Kris Ajer increases our options in those areas,and the ease with which Mohamed fitted into the side certainly bodes well. It’s fairly easy to have a go at PL for not following up our interest after his displays against us four years ago,but let’s not forget that BR arrived in the summer-and he had his own plan for the left side of our attack. Scott Sinclair has been a great player for us as far as I’m concerned,so I’ll give PL a free pass on this one. I’ll be watching ME closely,which will make a change from my Mum and my sisters keeping their beady eye on me while I’m up here!!!

So that was Saturday for you. Three points. Oh-and no injuries that I’m aware of. It’s never nice to hear of any player picking up an injury,but I hear that the huns are currently checking the guarantee on Ryan Kent-and might even consider suing the SFA for accepting a past-the-deadline registration for him!

Yon Karma,what’s she like…

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Above article by BMCUWP. 915 is the new 5am. I’m on holiday,so get used to it!

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PHILBHOY

No show without Punch,old son. Delighted you can make it. We’ll make sure you get a front row seat,as I believe there will be a musical interlude from some right guid Tims!

Great stuff about the wee yin getting back to work too-though obviously she wasn’t exactly sitting on her bahookie these last few months.

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PHILBHOY

Just checked the weather forecast. Dry and sunny until about 8pm. Increasing chance of rain after that. So see y’all there!

Philbhoy

BMCUWP

Lookin’ forward to it!

See you then!

fan-a-tic

Thank the stars that game is behind us.
Hopefully the coaching staff will do better next time we play on such a surface.
Bringing ourselves down to a poor opponents level should not be repeated.
Elyounoussi showed well
Midfield balance is still a concern.
Rennes will give us a better barometer of where we are.

fan-a-tic

Keep reading that Rodgers departure sparked the downturn in McGregor’s performances.
Not true!
He has been a non contributor since winter break.
System,position or mental attitude?

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Dunno where to start with this,but it might just be one of the worst ever articles in the history of the DR. Factually wrong in so many areas,and he keeps referring to percentages-and gets them ALL wrong.
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Celtic are the league’s top scorers and have been since smashing seven past St Johnstone in the opening day.

Yet they don’t take the most shots in the league. That goes to Rangers who have taken a mammoth 95 shots in their five games so far, which works out at 19 per game.

And when you think of the lack of efforts they had in their miserable performance against Celtic, then it shows how strong they have been going forward in other matches. The amount of shots on goal, however, isn’t the be all and end all.

Rangers are way out in front in terms of shots taken but their conversion rate is one that might worry Steven Gerrard.

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With just 12 goals scored in the Premiership this season it’s a rate of 11.4 per cent although they do hit the target with 45.6 per cent of their shots, so perhaps they are just coming up against strong goalkeepers.

In comparison, Celtic have hit 22 shots fewer than Rangers at 73 but scored six more goals at a rate of 13.14 per cent.

Despite that record, there is a worry for Neil Lennon as well, with the Hoops hitting the target with just 19.71 per cent of their strikes, getting only 27 going where they want it to.

It’s a similar story for their individual strikers. Alfredo Morelos, Jermain Defoe and Odsonne Edouard all have three goals each. The Rangers pair have a better goals-to-minute ratio with a goal every 74 for Defoe, and every 76 for Morelos while Edouard is on a goal every 95 minutes.

But both Ibrox strikers have hit more shots with nine for the veteran Englishman and 16 for Morelos while France U21 star Edouard has just eight shots for his three strikes.

The stats also point to a worrying trend for Edinburgh rivals Hearts and Hibs. Both clubs have had poor starts to the season with only Hamilton managing fewer shots on goal.

Accies have hit just 33 with Hearts 40 shots and Hibs 43. Paul Heckingbottom’s men have managed to get 20 on target but Hearts are bottom of that table with just 14 making the goalkeeper work.

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FAN-A-TIC

I think he really needs a break. That would explain it for me. Or maybe,as has been suggested,he struggles to play in the same midfield as Broonie.

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
In a country where lies are used as fact’s by the media then it’s no surprise.
Gerrards assertion of being 85 minute champions went unchallenged by the media and was still being touted after a blogger proved it to be completely false by giving the real statistics.

Oglach

fan-a-tic
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Re Calmac. I do not believe he warrants an improved contract and the reported £35k p/w the PLC are ready to offer. Could it be that Leicester’s wee tentative enquiry about his availability during the window has galvanised the PLC to act ? As far as I can see it certainly isn’t based on his on field performances of late. Haven’t really witnessed anything that would merit a greatly improved deal IMHO. Now most players will experience a period of ‘poor performance’ and the exceptional players that very rarely do wouldn’t be at Celtic FC or at least not for very long. However to offer an improved deal to Calmac at present would seem a bit premature. Obviously if he ups his game consistently and proves he is worth, what for us is top dollar, by all means offer him a new deal. In the meantime if Leicester return with a cheeky wee bid in Jan so be it.

As I have mentioned before 2 x players on top wages who are either off form or not even getting In the squad equates to the best part of £70K p/w that could be spent elsewhere. On a quality defensive middy that I think we all agree we need perhaps.

‘BIG VIC’ would cost less CSC

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BMCUWP
Why do you keep suggesting Brown is the reason for Calum’s malaise?
Blame the coaches who have a blind spot for Calum.
Ntcham got slaughtered by the support for a bad game at ibrox and then received few minutes and being played out of position to win his spot back.
Still hasn’t despite the fact in minutes played this season he has looked vastly superior to the ineffective McGregor.
It took Calum a long time to deservedly win over the Celtic support.
But he has been poor all year and to justify his inclusion everyone else is to blame?
He shirks responsibility far to often in my opinion and rarely plays with his head up or faces forward.
When neither of our central mids are capable or willing to make forward runs or passes it leaves us as a very predictable side to play against.

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Oglach
I completely agree!

big packy

HI ALL, where is everybody ive been sitting in this pub since noon today, the hoot is on today isn’t it or has jimthetim given me false information, left Cheshire at 7 this morning to avoid the traffic and there is not a soul here, im the only one with a celtic top on as well, and the blokes in here keep giving me daggers, also there is paintings on the wall with a bloke on a white horse a real ugly bassa, anyway jim if your about, you did say meet us at the louden tavern didn’t you.

Rebus67

The game vs Rennes is fast approaching. When it is over what will it tell us? If we win or even draw, it will reveal a lot. Make no mistake Rennes are a very good side. They currently sit second in Ligue 1 after 5 games…….3 wins, 1 draw and 1 loss. The wins include defeating PSG! As I said they are a very good side, indeed. What may offer hope is that their last two results were a home defeat to Nice and a draw with Brest who are 13th in a 20 team league. If we perform well, we shall indeed be on an upward track.

However, if we lose what will it tell us? It really depends on how we lose. If we are out coached then it will confirm my fears and it will probably result in us not qualifying out of the group. Rennes are very capable of winning away from home. However losing out to a very good side is no shame. As I say, it depends how we lose, if that comes to pass. We have three not so secret weapons……The three French lads will be eager to impress on home soil, so, if fit, they should all play. If we play Rogic instead of Ntcham, it will be an uphill struggle in what is already a difficult game. Whoever controls the midfield will win the game. Decisions like this will define both the game and the measure of the manager.

Which NL will show up……the Cluj and Hamilton version, or the Ibrox master?

Can we break free from the current image of Celtic within Europe……too good for Scotland, but not good enough for Europe?

Rebus

Auldheid

Fanatic

Form comes and goes but the ball from McGregor to Edouard was perfectly angled and weighted to allow the deft lay off that led to the goal.

When a defense is as packed as Hamilton’s was threading the eye of the needle isnt easy and not many players succeeded on Saturday morning.

The lad might need a rest but let’s not throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Rebus67

A couple of points re the Hammy game. First, was Forrest offside when ME crossed the ball? That should get your juices flowing! Secondly, ME did play well for about twenty minutes and then faded…..possibly due to lack of game time. For me, the jury is still out on him. I suspect he may not like the physical side of the Scottish game. Still, neither does Sinclair, the current version of H G Well’s invisible man, and he prospered, for a time.

Again, only an opinion, but if ME can play inside rather than on the wing, he may turn out to be the answer to a question that is rarely asked today……..our lack of creativity.

Rebus

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OGLACH

Sorry for the delayed reply,been out in the garden. Got to earn my keep when I’m here!

I’m not so much blaming Broonie for CalMac’s current indifferent form as suggesting that he seems to be a very difficult player to partner in midfield. Or it may be the other way round for all I know. I’ve said before that Callum is stuck in a cleft stick,as his better performances for us when Broonie has been playing have been in a more advanced role-which is currently occupied by Ryan Christie. When Broonie was missing about this time last year,CalMac stepped into the deeper role to good effect.

So IMO the ideal midfield four for us would be Ollie and Broonie in the deeper roles with CalMac and Ryan in the advanced roles. But that isn’t the system we play,so we have to work around that. And no,I don’t have a scoobie either how we square that circle.

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AULDHEID
bit naughty.
You know i have been going on about a lack of form over a prolonged period.
But you narrow it down to a single pass?
His pass was a good diagonal ball to Edouard who truly had a deft touch.
And it was one moment in a poor game by Calum who created both of Hamilton’s best chances by losing possession in dangerous areas through being too casual.
Players should be judged on performances rather than past reputation.
Others are being judged on far stricter criteria.
I never mentioned throwing him out but he should earn his place on merit.
I have stated there could be various reasons including systems,tactics, partners and confidence but he has not justified his inclusion in months.

Also to your other point.
(When a defense is as packed as Hamilton’s was threading the eye of the needle isnt easy and not many players succeeded on Saturday morning.)
I posted about both Brown and McGregor having no awareness of teammates before they receive the pass.
This results in both having then to look up and take to many touches before attempting to find a teammate.
Neither seem to have the wherewithal or inclination to make a first time pass.
This gives opponents time to pack areas and reduces our options.
Using something our own style of play creates as an excuse for difficulty is not credible.

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Haha,naw. The hoot is on Saturday,as fine you know. A few swifts in the Blane Valley then down to McChuills around 230ish. Bit of craic and catching up,with BGFC and Son getting us in the mood for some rebs down The Gallowgate later.

Should be a blast as ever.

Sorry Packy I seem to have got a few details wrong! 🙁

fan-a-tic

Rebus67
That our two most creative mids in Ntcham and Henderson have not been considered sums it up.
Meanwhile our central area is populated by two guys who seem married to hesitation and mostly sideways and backwards safe passing.
I posted in the past that Neil’s teams seemed to be set up to be hard to beat and reliant on our better players producing individual good moments for the victory.
Creativity is not a priority in this set up.

big packy

JIM don’t worry, ill find a nice friendly tim pub in Coatbridge, no huns there.?

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big packy

MICK thanks for asking me, but with joans mum not too good at the moment I just don’t like leaving her on her own at this time although she has told me to go, if anything happened while I was away id feel guilty, im sure you understand, there will be more hoots and just try stopping me for the next one.hh.

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FAN-A-TIC

I too was disappointed to see Euan Henderson put out on loan. But it is no longer the dead end street for young Celtic players that it once was. The plus side is that he will be getting playing time,and in a team which is more likely than most to encourage him to play football.

He is an exciting young player,and we need to encourage players to make the breakthrough with us. Sadly,our record of bringing on youth players has been very poor for a long time now.

Fan
“I posted about both Brown and McGregor having no awareness of teammates before they receive the pass.
This results in both having then to look up and take to many touches before attempting to find a teammate.
Neither seem to have the wherewithal or inclination to make a first time pass.”
Players that are aware cost mucho millions, our players are as good as any around in the main, but when the whole package is put together our players are playing for us and those with added extras are playing for the top clubs, fine margins but margins all the same.
HH

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BIGPACKY

You stay where you are needed,mate. That’s what the important thing is. We’ll raise a glass to absent friends. You can square us up at the next one(!)

big packy

CHEERS bobby, knew you would understand??

big packy

TET and FAN, the top class players don’t even need to look up to receive a pass, they know when it is coming, that’s what millions of pounds gets you.hh,

fan-a-tic

TET
Both Henderson and Ntcham show awareness.
It just isn’t recognized .
Brown and McGregor may have it but i believe 3 years in a safety first possession game made it unnecessary and therefor redundant.
Also the training ground should give you an inkling of where your teammates should be.
They need to be conditioned to start looking.
I posted about Henderson ,Johnston and Ralston’s link up play against Hearts at end of the season.
It was impressive the way they constantly interchanged and found space.It was a credit to McINtyre’s coaching.
The Johnston goal after a great passing move from Ntcham to Mikey then to Henderson who gave him a perfect return ball to attack was the result of awareness.

fan-a-tic

BigPacky
I agree about top class players awareness but even they are coached in how to play.
Which is why some great creative players struggle in certain teams.
Pogba is a good example.
Schweinsteiger failed at Man U not because of a lack of awareness.
He struggled because Mourinho wanted him to play to his style which was a more cautious system than he was used to.
He went from being a box to box midfielder with a good array of forward passing to a hesitant unsure player.
He was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

big packy

FAN, good point that word coached??

big packy

TET, how are things over there, hope you and the animals are well,hh,,ps the mrs was asking about you im getting jealous?

BP
Just no long back from shopping, had to do a bit of a detour as the road into town is closed cos of the rain, it washed a bridge away, so a forty min detour, dugs are fine and the normal pains in the arses but wouldn’t have it any other way 😉
HH
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Fan
I am happy that Henderson is out on loan as he will be getting imo as good as it gets coaching where he is, the coaches there are modern thinking ones, for all I like Lenny his coaching methods are outdated big time, but he will do Ok if we beat the huns into second again, that’s all that matters to the majority of supporters, that’s what I find the saddest thing, no ambition other than beating thems, so sad, all it does is justify their existence.
HH

big packy

TET??

fan-a-tic

TET
I thought the worst of the weather was behind you?
Take care and best wishes.
HH

Fan
It is hopefully, but it will take a while to rebuild the bridge 😉
HH

big packy

ok having left Glasgow because my mate got the dates mixed up only joking jim? pulled into Coatbridge centre, the fountain is still there but no trams or trolleybuses, and where yogis bar used to be there is an asda, ffs an asda in my favourite drinking den from the early seventies, im dreading going up the hill in case jim brogans bar is not there either?

Talking about trams, I have never seen the trams in Edinburgh yet. Although I was working in Edinburgh before I retired I was a couple of miles away from the city centre. I remember the trams in Glasgow when I was young. Noisey buggers!

big packy

JIM, do you remember the trolleybuses in Glasgow, I was only a kid but I remember them, I may be wrong but were they not painted green and yellow.hh.

I couldn’t swear on it Packy but I think they were.

big packy

JIM, will you be about in half an hour, ill be back then god willing.hh.

I’ll be here Packy.

Oglach

Todays News.

Celtic are once again 1 injury away from a defensive problem entering a crucial period of games.

It has been reported that big Jozo requires surgery on his knee, an arthroscopy – which basically means cleaning away damaged cartilage from the joint. This will rule him out of contention for a number of weeks. With our make shift CB Nir Bitton already side-lined with a hamstring injury we are once again one injury away from a central defensive problem* / crisis* / disaster* – * delete where applicable.
Can Calmac play in defence? – no wait we have tried that already.

big packy

OGLACH, more power to your elbow.??

big packy

so jim its 1964 and im just about to go to secondary school, we have just moved out of my grandfathers house and into our first new home a prefab, but it was our prefab 5 of us in 2 rooms but hey we were happy, now comes what I want to tell you, my dad worked 3 shifts in bedlay colliery but I liked it best when he was on the nightshift, we woke up to a blazing coalfire which he had lit for us coming off nightshift, then the rolls would appear a dozen well fired rolls with lashings of Scottish pride butter, jim I can taste it now heavenly, posters forgive me for talking garbage just feel in a nostalgic mood, jim knows that.hh.

Sounds brilliant Packy. We never lived in a prefab but I used to love them, they seemed like cosy wee cottages. Well fired rolls & Scottish Pride? YUM YUM. (Butter on the outside by the way).

fan-a-tic

Oglach
Only if we don’t trust youth.
Young Welsh has looked good whenever I’ve seen him.
And O’Connor came with high expectations.
Frimpong can play on right and Elhamened can move to centre back also.
If good enough they are old enough.Look what KT proved under Ronny D.

big packy

JIM, can you still get Scottish pride butter.

Fan-A-Tic, is Lenny still averse to giving youth a chance? I was hoping he had improved in that area a bit.

Packy, yes The Co-op sells it here. I still buy it. Much cheaper than Lurpak too! £1.50

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