The Course Of True Love Never Did Run Smooth.
Morning,all.
Shakespeare said that,and if he’d also said that beauty is in the eye of the beholder,I’d have put him forward as one of the earliest Celtic fans!
I’ve said before that you could have ten Celtic fans in a room and get eleven different opinions. All of them formed from the same sentiment,of course-a love for Celtic and a desire to see us successful.
I don’t think any of us were over the moon when our previous manager left. Some of us were pissed off at him for leaving at all,while others were more concerned that he had jumped ship in mid season,just before two important away matches in Edinburgh-matches which could have a defining effect on our treble hopes had we lost them.
So Neil Lennon stepped in as interim manager,simply for the rest of the season. He finished off what BR had started,guiding us over the next three months to a famous Treble Treble. Would it have been fair to him to say “Thanks,mate” and send him packing after that?
Probably not. But life’s not always fair,and our leadership have a duty to employ the best management team that they can. I wasn’t the only person here or elsewhere who disagreed that Neil was the best available to us at the time,nor was I the only one concerned for the coming season.
We also had an entire defence to replace,and there was a definite concern that Lenny would not be in a position to demand the best. After all,PL seemed to have sat on his hands for most summers previous to this,and that with managers with a much stronger hand than Lenny,so he hardly had the best record in that regard.
So where are we now,five months and a transfer window after Neil’s appointment to the full-time position? We signed five defenders who we expected to be ready to fight for the first team,at a cost of around £15m. Plus Fraser Forster in goal. We still haven’t seen Greg Taylor,but none of them filled us with much hope when we first saw them.Two months or so down the line and I have to say I’m impressed with Bauer,Elhamed,Jullien,Boli. And of course,Fraser. We didn’t really need to sign anyone for elsewhere,and so we didn’t.
We signed four youngsters from down south,players who can help out all over the park. Defenders Jeremiah Frimpong and Lee O’Connor came from Man City and United respectively,Luca Connell from Bolton is a central mid and striker Jonathan Alofabi came up from Southampton. All four are still only teenagers and were very highly regarded at their previous clubs. They join our incumbent kids,like Michael Johnstone and Karamoko Dembele plus Armstrong Okoflex and others as bright beacons for the future. So yes,a better window than I dared hope so pass marks for that.
Results and performances though? Hmmm,if you’d asked me that after the home games with Dunfermline and Cluj,I would have diplomatically stalled on my answer. Both of those games-and a number of them before and since-revealed a major weakness of Neil’s. His inability to “rummel it aboot” either before or during the game. IMO he is far too reliant on his first eleven,a trait he probably picked up from Cloughie and MON. But with a 100% league record and a very good away draw in the Europa League,who’s to say that he is wrong? He might think that there’s plenty of time to rotate later in the season. We shall see.
So as you can see,I’m fairly content with how things are going currently. Were it not for the usual freemasonry,I believe we would already be a minimum of eight points clear. But three will do for now. Should we be making signings much earlier to give us a better chance of qualifying for the Champions League? Almost certainly,and I’m getting fed up with it. But we are where we are,so we have to deal with that.
So back to Brendan Rodgers. Do I wish he was still our manager? Very much so,but only if he was content here. I think he’d had enough over a year before his departure,fed up with certain club policies. I still think his timing sucked though. His record with us was incredible,a magnificent seven trophies won from seven available to us,as well as having us as favourites for the other two when he walked out.
I don’t think we should be trashing his record with us. I don’t think we should be trying to suggest that Lenny is a better manager either. That’s a bit like telling everyone that your stunning ex is a tramp just because she dumped you.
But feel free to get battered into him for his timing! And feel free to give Neil your/our total support. This is a crucial season for us-and for the Southside Zombies. It’s no time for splitters!!!
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Above article by BMCUWP. The good news is that Mahe will be online again soon to give a different view. Don’t forget that you can all offer yours as well,just send us an article for publication and we will put it up. Every time. Mail it to Mahe
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You don’t do that podium nonsense on here, do you?
Morning Bobby!
PHILBHOY
Morning,bud. For you we will make an exception! Good catching up with you and your family on Saturday. Not that it was that difficult to catch up,it’s not like you could run away…
Well said Bobby.
I think we as a site were dissatisfied with the appointment process but all understood that Neil is a real Celtic man and would do no less than his very best for the club he loves.
It’s up to the man himself to show us that his best is plenty good enough but overall I think he gets a fair shake of the whip.
Brendan ,,, it’s different strokes for different folks I think.
I wont be getting used and abused by anyone and I happened to agree with him walking away rather than be played.
His timing will forever be his Achilles heel to all Tim’s of course and there is nothing in this world can ever change that,, but that’s his burden not mine. Good manager though,,that’s not in doubt.
Englands top six are there for the taking,, he was well aware of that I have no doubt.
Last full day in the Old country for a while. Of course its raining,,only fair I suppose.
Hail Hail
Solskjær’s rebuild talk cannot mask Manchester United’s sense of drift
The manager’s honeymoon period is over and the defeat at West Ham demonstrated their lack of high-grade options again
David Shytner
Mon 23 Sep 2019 16.55 BSTLast modified on Tue 24 Sep 2019 08.57 BST
‘We hope for better’ says Solskjær after Manchester United lose 2-0 to West Ham – video
It was a soundbite from Ole Gunnar Solskjær designed to cut through the hysteria that always accompanies a bad Manchester United defeat and, make no mistake, Sunday’s 2-0 reverse at West Ham was as bad as anything on the manager’s nine-month watch – with the exception of the 4-0 drubbing at Everton last April.
“I’ve said it many times, this is a rebuilding job and the boys are working as hard as they can,” Solskjær said.
There is a fundamental problem with this public admission. It is generally accepted that, if you offer footballers an excuse, they will take it and the notion of a club being in transition fits the description.
Rebuilding or transition suggests that things will improve gradually, eventually, at some unspecified point in the future. But as for the here and now, there can be bumps along the road – which is the phrase that Solskjær used after West Ham. They must be tolerated, accepted. And, by that measure, it is no great leap to see the situation as working to lessen competitive edges, to allow for drift.
Solskjaer has taken many positives away from his Manchester United team’s embarrassing two-nil defeat to West Ham.
The embattled Manchester United manager invited a storm of criticism from fans, pundits and probably even his own family after losing 2-0 to the Hammers on Sunday.
“I’d rather focus on the positives, of which there are many,” commented Solksjaer.
“Everybody had the right kit on, for a start. I really can’t stress how important that is.
“All of my teammates remembered to go to the toilet before the game started – albeit Harry Maguire needed reminding, but nobody’s perfect. This meant we didn’t have to deal with a ‘Gary Lineker’ situation.
“And everybody remembered which bus to get on after the game had finished, which meant we got everyone home safe.
“There are countless other examples that I won’t bore you with now, but I think we have a really solid base to build from which will allow us to absolutely storm the lower half of the Premier League table.”
Manchester United fan, Jay Cooper, commented “fucking hell.”
“We’ve gone from winning the Premier League, Champions League and FA Cup in a single season to scraping for positives from a defeat at West Ham.
“Now I know what it must feel like to be an Arsenal fan.”
United have eight points from their opening six league matches, which is the same number as Tottenham and Chelsea, but the sense of angst at Old Trafford feels more acute, the spotlight on Solskjær more unforgiving. Perhaps this is because of the credit that Mauricio Pochettino has built at Spurs and the fact that Frank Lampard has just started his managerial project at Chelsea.
Some fans have started to question whether Solskjær is the right man to oversee the United rebuild. The dangers and realities he faces are plain.
AWENAW
I said when Fergie retired that winning the league in his final season-with THAT team and particularly THAT defence-was his greatest achievement.
They needed to spend big immediately to maintain any sense of continuity. They didn’t,and it has been piecemeal since. And as a result,a miserable failure. Can’t say I’m crying about it though.
BMCUWP,
Not too upset about it either
Mahe, hope you enjoy the end of your holiday. Safe journey home.
Awe Naw
So glad you got that reality factor in…!
HH
Morning all
Apologies for the belated update.
Naps table update.
We drew a blank this week therefore an easy update ( so I hope it’s correct!)
We have a late but very welcome entry from Raymac, who has to join on the lowest amount. Hope every is ok with that.
No Napster of the week. Obviously. ☹️
ATOB +£11
Bada +£11
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BMCUW +£2.25
TGM +£1.82
1 Tim Malloy +£1.25
TET +£1
Twists -£1
Gordon 64 – £2
PF Ayr -£2.25
Mahe -£3
CCE, AS67, JTT, CCB, Troonbhoy, Uber , Raymac (all minus £6)
Tuesday 24 September 2019
Brexiter insists Supreme Court is full of despicable Remoaning traitors
Supreme court judgement
The idea of an independent judiciary is a thing of the past as Brexit voters have this morning determined that the supreme court is full of traitorous remoaners who want to see the country fall.
After the court gave a unanimous verdict that the government’s prorogation of parliament for five weeks was unlawful, people who are happy to bend the rules in their favour have insisted the decision is an outrage.
“How dare these judges sit and review the evidence and come to a conclusion I disagree with!” hammered Brexit supporter Simon Williams into his keyboard a few minutes ago.
“17 million people didn’t vote for Brexit just so the Supreme Court could go around applying the rule of law in an independent fashion – clearly they are all remoaners who need to get over it and realise we won.
“I’m sure some proper patriots – like the ones who work at the Daily Mail – will be getting ready to tell us exactly why these judges are evil and shouldn’t be trusted. It can’t come soon enough for me!”
Meanwhile, slightly less emotional Brexiters have simply called the result the end of sovereignty.
As one explained, “This idea that the supreme court justices can review the facts of the case and come to a dispassionate conclusion is completely absurd. It all comes down to whether they love this country, or hate it.
“Clearly this lot hate our country, there is no other possible explanation. When we said we wanted to take back control of our laws and return parliamentary sovereignty, we only meant in ways that we agreed with.”
Hahaha…!
US Stands Firm, Ready To Support Nation Behind 9/11 Attacks
September 24, 2019 – BREAKING NEWS, POLITICS, WORLD NEWS
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SHOWCASING the sort of moral superiority it seeks to be known for the world over, the US government has reiterated it will stand resolutely alongside the nation largely responsible for facilitating the 9/11 attacks, after oil depots in Saudi Arabia suffered a drone attack allegedly carried out by Iran.
“We’re ready for another cheap, easy and largely consequence-free war in the Middle East, and what Iran needs to learn is that the US will not stand idly by as Saudi Arabia, the nation that did more than any other to help bring down the Twin Towers, is under attack,” explained one US military official.
“We’ll blindly bring our entire nation into a bloody and nonsensical war if it means petrol will be 5 cents cheaper, for that is as American as apple pie,” added the official, before confirming he wouldn’t be surprised if the US suddenly found totally trustworthy evidence of weapons of mass destruction in Iran.
The US has been busying trying to build a coalition of allies for further shows of strength against Iran, who again for the record did not facilitate terrorists attacking America in the way the Saudi Arabian government did, however, far from finding it hard to get support the UK, France, Germany and Israel simply responded ‘how high do you want us to jump?’.
“Look, we can turn a blind eye to war crimes, causing famine in Yemen, bombing women and children, and yup, supporting the 9/11 attackers, but when it comes to bombing oil supplies, well, it’s the worst thing any human can ever do,” added a Trump administration official, pointing out that if Iran simply murdered a journalist in one of its own embassies like Saudi Arabia did, it would have probably let it slide.
BMCUWP,
Good article as usual. I agree with all of it, but, in spite of that, it is still a good article.
One of the things about the SC leaders is that they usually stimulate thought. I too am happy with how NL is conducting both himself and the team, with the obvious exception of Cluj. All appears rosy in the garden, or, actually Paradise. Was it Bill Shankly who suggested tgat any manager was only as good as their next result? In short, it is too early to assess NL…so far, so good, more than good, but a couple of reversals say one against Cluj at home, and one domestic loss and the picture will look quite different. So, just as I was too quick to write Neil off, we should be cautious about praise at this early stage.
To back up my excellent discourse, let me cite tge curious case of Solksjaer at MU. Initial expectations when he was hired were to finish out the season with as little damage as possible, then hire another big name in the role. What happened? The players were so glad to see the back of Mourinho that they played with joy and a sense of relief. A string of impressive results was acrued, but towards season’s end, there were some disturbing signs. This season, the much desired revival has not happened. In fact, the reverse is true after the hammering by the Hammers. The feel good factor has gone from the dressing room and the club is left with an inexperienced manager who already has failed in the EPL. The one thing that is sure is that fortunes can change very quickly in football. Few managers are bullet proof. Even Jock was eased out.
Rebus
I’m in the camp where it is way too early to judge Neil Lennon. Yes he has done well so far but as was pointed out not any better than he should be doing. We are far superior or should be far superior to every other team domestically that winning games home and away should not be surprising. The win at ibrox was as welcome as it was unexpected but I think he was helped by Gerrard not getting his tactics right. But you can only beat what’s in front of you and Neil has done that.
Except for Cluj. That was a total disaster and his refusal to accept any blame for it annoyed me. I prefer people to admit their mistakes and then we move on.
He himself has admitted to being more calm and has made changes in his managerial style. Accepting blame will help that also in my opinion. Players and fans will respect that more.
The signings have come good after a shaky start and the togetherness in the squad pleases me. So refreshing to hear Eddie say he is happy here instead of looking for the exit first chance he gets. We know he will leave, he knows he’ll leave but he’s giving the hacks nothing.
All in all we are off to a good start but nothing more.
BMCUWP
Sorry Bobby I was away by the time you replied to my post.
By the time I got home I was hobbling, but better now.
Wee yin said to tell you her first day at work was great.
The office is also doing a “welcome” lunch today for the new start, so everyone is going to The Kweilin in for a meal.
I’ll keep you posted!
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Sorry should have added earlier, Charlie Nicholas is a twat of a man. A soup taker of epic proportions. In fact I bet he sups it with the big friendly giants spoon. Best you just keep sitting there thinking Charlie and say Hee haw bcos everytime you do say something it’s a load of shit anyway.
ATOB
You are being overly kind to the Arsenal flop.
Rebus67
My next door neighbor is a City fan from Manchester.
When they gave Solskjaer the gig after a few good games he told me he was worried Utd had found a successful recipe .
I told him don’t be daft it’s just the positive bounce of getting rid of Mourinho and they will revert to being rudderless soon as i don’t see any great tactical strategy.
As soon as he signed the long term contract the decline followed.
Has the players feel good factor at being released from Mourinho’s stifling regime dissipated with the realization that their new long term coach was tactically lacking?
It was a strange move by the Utd hierarchy as waiting to the end of season would have given them the chance to strategically plan long term rather than a reactionary appointment which looks like it will all end badly.
Hard to believe how much loved Charlie Nicholas was when he played for Celtic. How a man can turn on a support like that baffles me.
Charlie Nicholas was a twat long before he donned the hoops
I remember when ‘Open all Mics’ started on the TV, Nicholas was one of the pundits who would come roaring on for the award of a free kick! Yes a Twat. Very much liked the sound of his own voice. He should have heard what the regulars in my local were saying about him! And they were Tims!
Treble, Treble toil and trouble;
Fire burn and caldron bubble.
Fillet of a fenny snake,
In the caldron boil and bake;
Eye of newt and toe of frog,
Wool of bat and tongue of dog,
Adder’s fork and blind-worm’s sting,
Lizard’s leg and howlet’s wing,
For a charm of powerful treble,
Like a hell-broth boil and bubble.
Shakespeare? Or Awe Naw?
Don Robertson ref for Livingston v Huns tomorrow
Get yer money on a penalty awarded .
Steven Maclean for us .
BMCUWPS-a very good and fair assessment?
A wee bit of trivia for you regarding the twat that is champagne Charlie ?
Arsenal vLiverpool league cup final(milk cup ) I think
Liverpool had never lost a game when Rush had scored!
Guess who won??
And guess who scored ?
FB
I didn’t google this but from memory did Nicholas get one and Paul mariner the other. Don’t know why I think it’s mariner, probably nonsense. Incidentally it says it all that that is the highlight of Nicholas’ career. What a waste of talent.
ATOB-he got both the twat?
Your dad and brother were on form on Saturday,a pleasure to meet both at last?
But snookers in pool ?
FAIRHILLBHOY
HH and well met. Snookers are the only way a blind old git can win. That’s why I didn’t bother playing,I’m a master at snookers in pool but only do it to wind people up.
Saturday wasn’t a day for that,but my Dad does like to have a laugh. Like me,when he wins because of snookers,he usually admits it was wrong and allows his opponent to carry the table.
Mainly because we rarely get away with it twice!
BMCUWPS-only kidding mate?I did it myself,but still got beat ?
Someone said you two are twins ?
There not wrong ?
No sure if that’s as good for your dad or you ??
THEEXILEDTIM will be off the site for a few days,sadly. Trying to clear up the mess left by the torrential rains recently,worked too hard and too long in the sun.
His wife,TBO,mailed me to let me know so I’m passing on the info to the site. Pretty sure he will be fine but a few days rest in hospital won’t do him any harm.
He has our best wishes of course,and my hotline upstairs.
HH and grateful thanks to TBO for the info.
FAIRHILLBHOY
No danger of a paternity suit at least. I saw Patrick Kluivert’s son on tv earlier. Jason? Wow. Spitting image.
TET, best wishes. Hope you’ll be back on song soon.
FB, I’m hopeless with trivia as I just proved. As for my dad playing snookers at the pool. Did you make sure he played it off a cushion first. I only found out that was a rule a year ago. Shows how out of touch I am.
TET, Best wishes. get well soon. Site won’t be the same whilst your off duty.
Sorry to hear the Exiled Tim isn’t keeping too well.
Haste ye back K. ( but only when you’re fully recovered)
HH
TET-you’ll be fine ??
ATOB-never played your dad ,but watched him against Gutenberg,your dad was having a ball ?
Also of course BIGPACKY isn’t having his problems to seek. I’ll try to contact him tomorrow to see how he is.
And WEEFRA. Not that he’s having problems-I hope-but our usual calls have been missed while I’m on holiday. Sorry,mate.
ATHINGOFBEAUTY
What? Ball must touch a cushion for a snooker? First I’ve heard.
If that rule makes it to Swindon it will spoil my fun.
EXCLUSIVE-cheating at pool starts a riot at Celtic supporters day oot ?
#level5pish
TET
get well soon
YNWA
TET
Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Take care.
HH
Hope things are getting back to normal for Packy too.
TET, if you are looking in, get well soon.
I hear KT put in a very good shift for Arsenal today. Pleased for the bhoy. Hope he does great there.
The Exiled Tim
Wishing you a speedy recovery.
HH
TET- Haste ye back HH
TET,,
Sorry to read about your illness. You’ll be missed here.
Get well soon.
HH
MORNIING ALL, firstly wish TET a speedy recovery, bobby, just been reading back, im ok pal, haven’t been on since Saturday too busy clearing up the mess the bastards made, will wait till everythings back to normal before I come back on, uber tim great to see you back posting, and jim, im glad you missed me,.lol,.by the way bobby we had 3 mobile phones in the shop plus the landline, they took all the mobiles and ripped the landline wires out, so ive had to give mt mobile to to be used as the shop phone and im using an old nokia phone just for emergencies, so don’t ring my mobile as you will get answered by a young lady,.lol.
BIGPACKY
Good to know that you’re all ok,mate. Thanks. The rest of it isn’t so good of course. Scummy wee basturts.
Hopefully your insurance company will be of more help than the police have been so far.