Another great Celtic comeback

When we, The Celtic Support, think of our greatest comebacks, we tend to think of games, where we won a league, a cup, or maybe even the big cup. This game didn’t win us any of those ,but it was certainly a pivotal moment in our history.

Jock Weir has a curious place in the history of Celtic. Larsson, McGrory and Lennox are remembered for many fine goals in finals, trophies and titles. Jock Weir is remembered for scoring some pivotal goals, but not in a final but rather to save Celtic from the ignominy of relegation.

Post-WW2 Celtic had hit a low and were easily superceded by Rangers and the Edinburgh pair. In season 1947-48, Celtic were staring potential relegation in the face and it all went down to the wire.

The pivotal game was against Dundee away from home in April 1948, and to say that morale was likely to be low is a bit of an understatement. The club had just suffered three heavy defeats to Hibs (2-4) and Third Lanark twice (1-5, 1-3) conceding 12 goals, leaving Celtic with the mathematical possibility of being relegated.
Celtic simply had to win the last match of the season or else the mathematical probability of relegation could have seen Celtic humiliatingly amongst the minnows in the lower tier division.

Into this mire stepped up a most unexpected hero on the day for Celtic: Jock Weir.

Jock Weir was bought from Blackburn as a big money signing for £7000 (a huge amount in those days). Said to be fast (too fast for the rest of the team at Blackburn apparently) and strong; this tireless performer was hoped to be a great signing for the club.

However, he was insufficient to halt Celtic’s continued slide from grace, and the aforementioned Dundee game became a vital day for the club.
Celtic had gone one up in the 14th minute, in front of a massive crowd of 31,000 and things were going well, However Celtic conceded a minute before half time and it was a nervous Celtic team who come out for the second half.
Dundee then went two one up, in the 60th minute, and, to the modern Celtic supporter, the unthinkable may have happened, Celtic could have been relegated. The tension was now palpable amongst the supporters who had travelled to Dundee, Celtic now needed a hero, to step up to the mark, that man was to be Jock Weir, on the 67th minute, what a magical number, Jock popped up with an equaliser and then he miraculously grabbed a winner in the final two minutes, to seal a hat-trick for himself and a relieving victory for the club to safeguard the situation.
The Celtic fans celebrated as if the first team had just won the league. It shouldn’t hide the fact that Celtic were poor, but humiliation was averted.
Ironically, Jock Weir hadn’t really impressed much as a goal scorer before this match, so what a time for him to repay back his transfer fee. Notably, for this game he was moved positions to ‘outside-right’ from his usual forward position. He was about to become a hat-trick hero and a man who would never be forgotten in our history.

Celtic finished with a paltry 25pts from 30 games, whilst Hibernian won the league with 48pts.

Teams
Dundee:
Brown, Follon, Irvine, Gallacher, Gray, Boyd, Gunn, Pattillo, Stewart, Ewen, Mackay
Dundee scorers: Ewen (44), Mackay (60)

Celtic:
Miller, Hogg, Mallan, Evans, Corbett, McAuley, Weir, McPhail, Lavery, Gallacher, Paton
Celtic scorers: Weir (14, 67, 88)

Ref:Mr Scott of Paisley
Att: 31,000

One benefit, to this close shave with relegation, was that this created a shock to the system within Celtic that led to some short-lived reform, piecemeal that it was in the end. A new respected trainer Jimmy Hogan was brought in, and Charlie Tully and Bobby Collins were bought to shore up the squad. It didn’t take the club back to the top quickly but it did help push the first team back up the table a few notches, as some credibility was needed to be recovered.

It was to be a long time before Celtic were to really regain pride back under Jock Stein as manager, although there were some great times during the 1950’s as well which should always be remembered (e.g. league & cup double of 1953-54).

Once again, many thanks to Celtic Wiki.

Todays contribution is from Jimmynotpaul. We are more than happy to publish guest contributions’s.

sentinelcelts@gmail.com

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Eddieinkirkmichael
October 16, 2019 7:16 am

Great article, I really enjoy the stories of our past endeavours and the Celtic wiki is truly among the best fan sites out there.
Let’s hope we never find ourselves in a similar position ever again.
Great to see hit a hat trick for the France under 21’s last night, another few £m on his eventual transfer fee. He strikes me as a very level headed young man and I hope he decides that another season with us is best for his development. I suspect PL will see it differently and want the money in the bank ASAP.
Anyway let’s just enjoy him while we can.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 7:36 am

EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL

I Wanna will still only be 23yo if he stays with us till Summer 2021. That’s a decade of big bucks in front of him. An extra year of learning his trade without the pressure that a huge club frequently on the international scene can only be good for us.

Of course,he might decide that he’s fed up being kicked every time he gets on the ball. That one against Livingston was breathtaking-right in front of the referee,cleaned out,no free kick.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 7:45 am

EDDIEINKIRKMICHAEL

Agreed on Celticwiki,a marvellous site. I’ve still got quite a few Celtic books kicking around,but one of the best,which I first read a l-o-n-g time ago was also the first time I really understood just how bad we were in the 20 years between 1945-65.

First time I’d read of Jock Weir too. I hope it’s still in my parents’ loft,or maybe with one of my sisters. Cos I’ve just seen the price of it!

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Glasgow-Celtic-1945-1970-Tom-Campbell/dp/B000M57D9O

On that subject,one of my mates in Swindon retired recently. Celtic daft so he converted his garage into a Celtic-themed Mancave. To some acclaim from the troops,I might add.

His pride and joy is The Celtic Opus. And no wonder. Cost an arm and a leg,or thirty quid as far as his missus knows. She reckons it was a bargain,I haven’t the heart-or the baws!-to tell her!

Awe Naw
October 16, 2019 7:55 am

JNP,

A fine read this morning. So we only got Tully and Bobby Collins on the back of a shit show. What is it with us ? Is it our dna or is that being racist ? Would be great to get a couple of high calibre signings like Tully and a Bobby Collins today

Watched Ireland last night. That´s going to be like watching a cactus bloom

big packy
October 16, 2019 8:02 am

MORNING ALL mahe, great informative piece, to think we could have been relegated but for jock weir JOHN BRITTON WEIR, I salute you.hh.

big packy
October 16, 2019 8:05 am

JIMMYNOTPAUL sorry, thought it was mahe hh?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 8:08 am

AWENAW

You definitely don’t want to see bamboo bloom. Only happens every 48 years,and it has a huge drawback. At least,according to a documentary I watched a few years back.

Which I can’t find,so you’ll have to make do with this.

https://www.rentokil.co.za/blog/bamboo-rats-flower-famine/

JimmynotPaul
October 16, 2019 8:28 am

Morning all.
Thanks for the kind comments.
Awe Naw.
Good point, about the players.
Tully was my Dad’s all time favourite.
Big Packy.
Were you at the game?????

big packy
October 16, 2019 8:34 am

JIMMYNOTPAUL, ya cheeky rascal? I think bobby was there though?

Awe Naw
October 16, 2019 8:39 am

We think we have it bad with Lazio

Rangers fans to be refused entry at Europa League clash with Porto if found to be too fragrant
Supporters are also banned from using fireworks, flares, air horns and drums at the game on October 24.

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ByPeter DavidsonDigital journalist
15:49, 15 OCT 2019UPDATED17:43, 15 OCT 2019
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Rangers fans will be refused entry to their game with Porto next week if they are too fragrant after official complaints made by Young Boys Bern FC was upheld by UEFA.

At the behest of UEFA The Foreign and Commonwealth Office and Health Department (FCO&HD) has issued a blue warning to fans ahead of the game in Portugal on Thursday October 24.

Supporters are also banned from using fireworks, flares, air horns and drums at the Europa League match.

A FCO&HD statement said: “The authorities have the right to smell fans upon entry to the stadium and anyone they consider too smelly will be refused entry.

“No alcohol, sharp objects (including umbrellas), air horns or loudspeakers, fireworks or flares, bottles or cans, drums or video cameras in the stadium but non pressurised Aerosols will be permitted .”

Other tips included showering in the morning of the game, removing woolly hats and scarfs while the sun is shining and breath mints.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 8:47 am

BIGPACKY

Good chance that COSYCORNERBHOY was.

SFTB
October 16, 2019 8:53 am

Awe Naw

Charlie Tully was a big money signing by the standard of the times, costing us 8k from Belfast Celtic but Bobby was signed from the Juniors as a youngster, after a move to Everton fell through. Celtic were Bobby’s first senior club and he would have been dismissed as a project at the times.

BTW, they debuted in different seasons too. Charlie played from August 1948 but Bobby only started in August 1949.

Awe Naw
October 16, 2019 8:56 am

SFTB,

you are much older than you look my friend 🙂

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 8:57 am

AWENAW,SFTB

Now I know where my copy of that book went!

big packy
October 16, 2019 8:58 am

BOBBY, bet your dad could recall some memorable stories?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 8:59 am

JIMMYNOTPAUL

Charles Patrick is my Dad’s all-time favourite too. He shared a birthday with me and a love for Celtic. There the resemblance ends…

Of course,he might have liked a Guinness or ten.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 9:01 am

BIGPACKY

Oh,indeed. It’s another reason why I love getting some quality time with him,just the pair of us talking for a few days and letting the world go by. Cannae beat it.

big packy
October 16, 2019 9:03 am

SFTB, the wee barra?

jimthetim53
October 16, 2019 9:11 am

God bless Jock Weir. 🙂

(and Jimmynotpaul)

big packy
October 16, 2019 9:19 am

MORNING JIM, off to to do some dog washing will speak later.hh.

jimthetim53
October 16, 2019 9:30 am

Laters Packy.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 10:09 am
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
October 16, 2019 10:56 am

Just thinking about the future of I Wanna,posted a comment to that effect on e-Tims a few minutes ago.

As I said above,I hope that he will see the benefit of staying with us for the next eighteen months.

Let’s face it,unless he’s loved up wi a Scottish lass who gets homesick when she crosses the road,he’s offski eventually!

I hope that he will stay,I hope he will see the benefit of staying. Again as I said above.

Except,can you think of a big English team that are struggling for goals and have been for a while now? I can think of three,though one is too tight to cough up.

jimthetim53
October 16, 2019 10:59 am

Agreed Bobby

Agreed Bobby

JimmynotPaul
October 16, 2019 11:25 am

BMCUW.
I can see, the scenario, where Moussa xfers to Man U and Lyon use part of his fee to buy Eddy to replace him.

Noel Skytrot
October 16, 2019 11:49 am

I’ve a copy of Stephen O’Donnell’s book Tangled up in Blue if anyone wants it.

Byres Road Bhoy
October 16, 2019 12:34 pm

JNP, Thank you for a good wee read. I love these wee dips into history but yours was a sobering reminder that it hasn’t all been about glory!
Noel, what was your impression of the book? I thought ‘Tangled Up In Blue’ excelled as an easy-to-read, warts-and-all, short history of RFC but didn’t offer me any new, fresh insights into the Liquidation saga.
However, the revelation that Rangers and its supporters were reviled by the SFA, media and other fans alike during their first thirty years – due to the former’s habit of complaining about and contesting unfavourable results and the latter’s well reported bad behaviour – came as a surprise.
Indeed, it seems that it took Celtic’s five-in-a-row of league titles around the turn of the 19th & 20th centuries to get the media on board as Ranges were seen as the only serious threat to hoops’ continued domination.
Did the ‘anyone-but-Celtic’ movement start here perchance?

Noel Skytrot
October 16, 2019 1:20 pm

Byres Road Bhoy,
it’s a good read but I was expecting a wee bit more too be honest. Still worth reading though.

fan-a-tic
October 16, 2019 1:29 pm

JIMMYNOTPAUL
Good read.
It’s always great to learn the history and heroes of Celtic fc.

fan-a-tic
October 16, 2019 1:37 pm

On the subject of Ed’s eventual transfer it will be sooner rather than later.
Our greedy plc wont pass up the chance of realizing a huge profit by selling while interest is high.
Ed’s current form has him a hot commodity..
The plc will stay true to form.

Bada Bing
October 16, 2019 1:45 pm
Bada Bing
October 16, 2019 2:06 pm

CELTIC Football Club is delighted to announce that it has appointed Nick Hammond as the club’s new Head of Football Operations.

 Nick, who worked with the club as a consultant during the summer transfer window will, with immediate effect, take up this position and oversee the club’s football operations working alongside the Football Manager, Neil Lennon.

fan-a-tic
October 16, 2019 2:10 pm
jimthetim53
October 16, 2019 2:43 pm

I share the confusion of Big Wavy, What is the role of a Head of Football Operations? How is it different from a Head of Recruitment or a Director of Football? I see he will be working ‘alongside’ Neil Lennon. That doesn’t sound like HEAD of…. I’m probably being cynical but I can’t help feeling it’s a fudge because of the widespread mockery of PL being the de facto DOF.

Awe Naw
October 16, 2019 2:47 pm

Read JJ Today when it comes to footballing matters on the pitch. He really hasn’t a fucking scooby. I would suggest that having a pop at Neil Lennon over Steven Gerrard must boost his financial intake. He seems to be the embodiment of what the SVDP men on steroids brigade would label as a knicker wetter. He ain’t that stupid

Awe Naw
October 16, 2019 2:56 pm

I reckon Gazza will be doing some time soon. Sounds like he needs it

fan-a-tic
October 16, 2019 3:04 pm

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/50071532
Wont be long till the corrupt SFA request all Celtic v sevco games are played at ibrox.

Byres Road Bhoy
October 16, 2019 3:27 pm

Racism in football…? This lassie doesn’t miss and hit the wall. Calling out Engerlund’s hypocrisy.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/oct/16/bulgaria-england-black-white-raheem-sterling-sofia

Bada Bing
October 16, 2019 3:29 pm
Oglach
October 16, 2019 3:45 pm

Listening to Radio Scotland news this morning. They had a piece about racism and interviewed Scottish footballs only black manager Albion Rovers Kevin Harper. They also had Jim Spence on the show and surprisingly he went off script and mentioned anti Irish racism and anti Catholic sectarianism in Scottish football. Strangely the interviewer didn’t ask him to expound on the issues!

Margaret McGill
October 16, 2019 4:01 pm

I guess my views on that Celtic PLC thrive on vile repugnant Sectarianism and thus the antithesis of many Celtic supporters raison d’etre combined with the fact that the human genome exhibits no religion gene has something to do with a keep the faith thing

big packy
October 16, 2019 4:07 pm

MAGS ?

big packy
October 16, 2019 4:09 pm

OGLACH, its the old nothing to see hear timmy?

big packy
October 16, 2019 4:17 pm

with Edouard ghuys, we are in a bit of a conundrum, he keeps scoring hatricks and the pound signs in pedros eyes get bigger, but we cant say hey eddy stop scoring those hattricks, but I trust pedro not to sell, don’t forget he is a big celtic mhan, well that’s what mags told me??

Rebus67
October 16, 2019 5:19 pm

With respect, the problem faced by FAs is not racism. Sure racism is a problem but it is not THE problem. Mocking others based on their gender, sexual orientation, or their religion are problems of equal magnitude. The real problem is discrimination. All of these issues fall under the umbrella of discrimination. All of them flow from the same causes…..tribalism, history, lack of education,fear etc.

FAs need to realise this and tackle the real problem, not just one part of it. It is akin to trying to plug one hole in the boat when there are several others that are causing water to flow in!

Outside of football, many organizations recognise that this is the problem to be tackled. Why are FAs so slow to realise this?

Look at the employment of refs in Scotland, for example. Is that free from discrimination? Yes, I can think of very few (none) black refs in Scotland but is that the real problem?

Rebus

Bada Bing
October 16, 2019 5:38 pm

Guys waiting for 6 hours seemingly at CP today for Lazio away tickets………surely we can do better?

Bada Bing
October 16, 2019 5:43 pm

Clancy doing Hearts v Sevco on Sunday…..

Mahe
October 16, 2019 5:44 pm

Howdy folks.
JnP thank you Sir for the history lesson and that’s a goodun. God Bless Jock Weir indeed, a man I had never heard of.
It’s also kinda heartening to know that we fought hard to get to the top of the pile,,as evidenced by your tale we weren’t always the dominating giant. I recall Sftb saying we were playing to very small crowds before Fergus ( 8k etc) so it does beg the question how exactly did we go from average to lower table team to somehow rise to the summit and become the dominant force?
Your article suggests smart business decisions such as Jimmy Hogan was is it really as simple as good decisions? Did everyone else make bad decisions at the same time?
Did tapping into the potential fanbase which was/is bigger than all others helped propel us upwards with more funds from gates?
Did we have more sway and pull to tap into the Irish market easier than others this giving advantage?
We naturally became champions as cream rises?
Superior Gaelic sporting genes than the natives?
It’s a story that’s worth looking into one day.
Thanks again pal
Hail Hail

JimmynotPaul
October 16, 2019 6:00 pm

Mahe et all.
Thanks for the kind words.
Mahe, those are great questions, that you have asked.
You should maybe try and get an article with/from one of our great club historians.
David Potter and Tom Campbell are 2 that spring to mind.