Scotland the Brave?

Normally today would be a pat on the back article for Scottish fitbaw with two teams heading into the Uefa last 32 from two difficult groups.
It is commendable for both and we even have youngsters being blooded away from home showing how we strolled it instead of the anticipated nail biter last couple games.
Having the team across the city go through adds extra spice , and one must admit that a haul of 14 goals in Europe for their Colombian is eye catching, even if he isnt rated highly by most Tims.

But there is only one result that cant be avoided today and for what will seem an eternity to many.
The Dup are no longer needed, and may be sacrificed soon in Brexit negotiations.
The Scottish people have spoken spectacularly in favour of the Snp and all that entails.
I am the very last person to explore the implications of the polling booths, others here are much more informed than me on that. I am as eager for their analysis as you on just how the future might play out.

But the thought that struck me was,,
The people have a wish for a path, express that wish, and yet have no way to force their way.
Remind you of anything?
And that is whats gonna catch my interest here, how many (if any) people are actually willing to take affirmative action on this issue ?
Make no mistake platforms such as Twitter have every Tom, Dick, and Harry coming out of the woodwork proclaiming now is the time the people have spoken etc etc.
And its true that such a landslide and huge turnout is a statement.

Despite what Shankly said football comes a distant second when it comes to real world affairs as we will all know. In a true emergency your team isnt even though of full stop.
So there is no real comparing the floor at the Agm getting swatted away by the top table, with something so important as demanding independence as a nation.
However what interests me the most is this,,
Should the people see that uniting and demanding something brings results,,
Then whats next?
Who’s next?

Predicting quite how independence would affect our club of choice and the entire setup is way beyond my pay grade, but the events of the last month or so that we have all dissected and thought soo very important have just paled in significance. I doubt this vote will help those that are seeking a fair and external inquiry into the whole malarkey up north surrounding the bent Sfa / Ibrox axis but that affair never raised half the storm appearing everywhere for Indyref2.
Perhaps if the nation does go alone the Sfa blazers would see limited funds, and the going rate offered only, all transparently and published openly to a new nation?
If money becomes tight it would be easy to see the gravy train put under the microscope so perhaps its not all bad for a concerned footie fan thinking of the future.

Only time will tell if this election makes a real change and helps folk feel empowered enough to unite and express on important issues. If it leads to a new nation then the fact that all wanted this together at the start is huge for the challenges that would lie ahead. A house divided and all that.
A country that knows it can actually act together to get things done,, a new aspiring optimistic nation,,a society finding its feet seeking a common bond,,a multicultural people with hope in their heart,,
Call me naive but I just cant see a bent game lasting long in that place.

The above is by Mahe. Please consider helping out the site over this busy period with an article to let the hard working one of us get some much needed sleep. Busier than Santa he is.

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Margaret McGill
December 13, 2019 3:13 am

well I betcha I know who our PLC are voting for tonight. 🙂

December 13, 2019 3:53 am

Vote for Pedro?
Ho Ho

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 5:17 am

Congratulations to John Finucane who took North Belfast.

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 5:32 am

Will Bojo the self declared “ one nation” politician find himself controlling only England and Wales at some point in the medium term?

Will Plaid Cymru ultimately relieve him of his Welsh responsibility if they watch the Scots and Irish become independent?

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 5:40 am

Actually we need a revolution.


Take to the streets. Robbing and pillaging. Would give me a new hobby actually. Getting fed up watching junior fitba. Beating up a few tories would be quite a blast. ( not a serious kicking – just a few bruises, and maybe a deed arm for good measure). Aye – a bit of battering would fair do us all a world of good.

I can already hear the sex pistols blasting out as we head to the border

? ???
“ Anarchy for the U.K.
It’s coming sometime and maybe
I give a wrong time, stop a traffic line
Your future dream has sure been seen through”???

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 6:18 am

Breaking news

Corbyn won’t lead Labour into any future elections.

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 6:23 am

The £ rockets v the $ and €

Money men are delighted.

Bojo and his ilk are the future of this country. Scary shit eh.

By the way I’ve ran into an issue with my planned anarch / revolution movement. I don’t think I thought it through. I got 4 recruited very quickly …. but.. I have just realised that’s ma car foo..?

December 13, 2019 6:32 am


Can we all call you Wolfie now? Do we have to support Fulham?

December 13, 2019 6:33 am

Now that TWISTSNTURNS daughter,Yvette,has passed her target with the generous help of this site and others,let’s see how far we can go. Congratulations and many thanks to all.

We’ll push it on here till the weekend,with pleasure.

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 6:45 am

Wolfie was kinda laughed at ?but , that’s because the timing of the shows release was all wrong. Pitched when we had a labour government in power.

If they bring him back now, Wolfie will extend his band of followers by millions. The Tooting front would grow beyond all expectations.

I’m in.

December 13, 2019 7:18 am


Still licking my wounds after yesterday’s mauling. I didn’t expect a Labour victory,but I was hoping that tactical voting would prevent a Tory majority.

And I’m absolutely astounded that large parts of The North and of The Midlands,areas which were devastated by Tory dogma of deindustrialisation in the 80s and 90s and again by the similar but more insidious policy of austerity-its always the poor who suffer from cuts. The only cuts the better off receive are in their taxes-over the last decade actually voted for them in droves. I mean,truly WTF?

We now have a PM who doesn’t even try to hide the fact that he’s a liar,and even takes a pride in it. Listen to his acceptance speech to his constituency overnight,as an example. I’ve never liked Tories as a rule,but some of them had the occasional redeeming feature. His only redeeming feature is that he isn’t immortal. I’ll betcha a pound to a penny he does eff all for the new converts to the Tory cause in the new Tory heartlands. And frankly,even that is more than they deserve.

There’s a lot of us gonna suffer over the next five years-and beyond,because of them. And for those who do,I’m sorry,but I’ll be saving my sympathy for those who refused to fall for this Con trick.

December 13, 2019 7:20 am

Btw,John Harris has been doing roving reports on the political outlook in various parts of the country over the last few years. Since he writes in The Guardian,I’d have thought that somebody in the Labour Party might have been paying attention.

December 13, 2019 8:16 am

Don’t know a huge amount about politics here, or back in Blighty or anywhere else.
It just can’t be good, tho. when someone whose character seems built on cheating, evasion, lies and double-speak is the best guy for the job.
On football, disagree there was nothing at stake; the reputation of each of our second stringers was and too few enhanced theirs.

big packy
December 13, 2019 8:33 am

how can someone who is a liar a fraud and a buffoon,in that order be voted in as prime minister, im sick to my stomach

December 13, 2019 9:15 am


Ah. The best man for the job. Now,THERE’S a job description.

The best man to get Brexit done. Nope,not even that-because Brexit will not be done on Jan 31. But on that day,we leave the EU. And on that day,we avoid any of those dreadful new regulations about corporate and personal tax evasion.

As Nolan told Lord Lucan at the Battle of Balaclava,”There,sir. There is your enemy.”

And the poor deluded fool led The Light Brigade to death. And Glory,of course.

Should be an easy job for Boris. He only needed a flock of headless chickens to vote for him and rush headlong into oblivion. While he and his take all the glory and the lucre.

Yep,best man for the job.

December 13, 2019 9:19 am


Where would a friend of mine with family be able to safely watch the hun game on 29/12? They are over from The US as a special treat for his grandson to take in a Liverpool game,which has been rescheduled for that date.

Can you find out for me,please? They’re a smashing family,but I’d like them to feel safe-and preferably hun free!


Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 10:12 am

Celtic’s potential last 32 opponents
FC Copenhagen
Sporting Lisbon
Eintracht Frankfurt Mon make it happen
Wolfsburg 3rd Choice
AZ Alkmaar
Bayer Leverkusen 2nd choice
Shakhtar Donetsk
Club Brugge

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 10:26 am

Libero, Mick, BP

This is the way of the world now. Bojo, Trump.
Maniacs. Both born in New York , both with British mothers and both with daft hair. ( ok I could’ve said both born in June, but I prefer the stupid hair!)

Hey ho. The Ftse 100 and ftse all share index are both booming today so everything must be good, right?

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 10:37 am

Awe Naw
I hope you get yer wish. If we do get Eintracht , I’ll come over and treat you and the good lady to dinner. That’s a promise. ( assuming I’m not away working of course which is very unlikely)

Mon the Frankfurt ….

December 13, 2019 10:38 am


No easy games on that list. Can we not put in a complaint to UEFA,demand the right to play the huns?

December 13, 2019 10:43 am

Interesting take on post-match events at Hampden on Sunday.

Although I have no reason to doubt the veracity of this-I like the site,and make no apologies for it-I much preferred the AWENAWed exclusive published here yesterday!

December 13, 2019 10:44 am


Were their mothers both living in The Bramford Building about nine months before they spawned?

Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 10:47 am

Twists n turns

that´s been bookmarked and I’ll hold you to it.

Free bed and board for you if it does happen and I´ll pick you up at the airport. A long weekend starting on Wednesday evening´s the liver .. will be Carnivale time

December 13, 2019 10:51 am
Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 10:53 am

Awe Naw

Bloody hell – I’ll be praying for Frankfurt now . ( not need the bed right enough – it’s a cert one, two or maybe even 3 of the bhoys would be with me / so I’ll get a hotel close by!

Mon the Eintracht ?? ??

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 10:55 am

Awe Naw
How far are ya from Leverkusen?

December 13, 2019 10:58 am

Great news,troops.

AWENAW’s got an empty for February if we get drawn at a suitable venue. If we don’t,he’s got the game on the telly anyway.

Who’s up for it?


Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 11:05 am

Twists n turns

98 miles. 44€ return on the train as I will not be driving .

I have 5 spare comfortable beds (3 singles and a double)

If you prefer an hotel that´s up to you but you´ll be missing out and you will regret it


nae bother mate just turn up

Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 11:08 am

Britain kicks itself in bollocks again
13th December 2019

THE UK has once again decided to kick itself in the metaphorical bollocks by electing a Conservative government.

Despite long experience of shady, incompetent, self-serving Tory administrations, the nation has opted for the sort of extreme, prolonged pain caused by a powerful blow to your testicles.

Voter Tom Logan said: “We’ve bloody done it again, haven’t we? The nation wants the sort of pain I got the other day when I crushed my nads on the crossbar of my mountain bike.

“Thanks to twats like Brexiters and even my dear old mum who believes everything she reads in the Daily Express, we’ve taken a good long run-up and really hoofed ourselves in the privates.”

However testicle specialist Dr Nikki Hollis said: “The sheer awfulness of the current Tories, such as Johnson, Rees-Mogg, Patel and that Gove thing, means that this is far more than a simple kick in the bollocks.

“A better comparison is placing your delicate knackers on a hard surface and getting an agitated horse to stamp on them.”

Tory voter Wayne Hayes said: “My bollocks are fine, although my boss did explain last year that we’ll all definitely lose our jobs after Brexit.”

Twists n turns
December 13, 2019 11:11 am

5 spare beds…. deal ?

Billy Bhoy
December 13, 2019 11:16 am

T&T said:

“Breaking news

Corbyn won’t lead Labour into any future elections.”

I think it could be argued that he didn’t lead Labour in this one! Three weeks ago it looked like we’d go into the polling booth still not knowing how he intended to deal with Brexit.
An absolute farce of a situation!

Nice guy, heart in the right place but NEVER a PM.

December 13, 2019 11:17 am


The injuries described by Dr Nicki Hollis sound horrendous. I hope that the poor victims get treatment while there is still an NHS available for them.

Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 11:18 am

I never said I’d get Brexit done, says Johnson
13th December 2019

BORIS Johnson has insisted this morning that at no point did he say he would get Brexit done.

Johnson, looking like he had taken part in a 24-hour pie eating contest, stressed that anyone who claims he would get Brexit done was ‘merely spreadulating faux news items’.

Johnson said: “I’ve never said I’d get Brexit done. Show me the proof. And I also didn’t refuse to look at that picture of the boy in hospital the other day and then pocket the journalists phone.

“All lies.”

He added: “Did you see that guy get punched at the hospital the other day though?

“The grim reality of politics, really.”

December 13, 2019 11:34 am


His failure to strike a chord with the voters was obvious from long before the start. Yet he was left ploughing a lone furrow as the sole face of the Labour Party.

Politics may be pretty grim and faceless these days-Spitting Image wouldn’t stand much chance,for instance,leaders and stereotypes aside-but there are(were)some very good politicians in the Labour camp that the voters could relate to,and that the press would have struggled to demonise.

But naw,Corbyn and his advisers knew better.

I’d like to think that the plan was for a three year tenure,drag the party back towards its Socialist roots and depart,leaving the party in a better place and prepared for an election two years later. That it was derailed by unforeseen events in 2016 and 2017. But naw,I think it all became an ego trip for him and the damage he has done is immeasurable.

Awe Naw
December 13, 2019 11:58 am

JEREMY Corbyn has announced that he and Labour are in a ‘process of reflection’ on what voters mean by telling him to ‘p*ss off’.

The Labour leader has confirmed he will not lead the party into another election but he will continue to guide them while they work out what ‘we’d rather have that lying fat pr*ck than you’ is actually saying.

Corbyn said: “I’ve always said how important it is to listen to ordinary voters. It’s just that ‘Shove your 70s bullsh*t up your a*se sideways’ isn’t easily understood.

“So, for the next few months, we’ll be unpacking statements like ‘we hate you’, ‘this is all your fault’ and the short, pithy ‘get f**ked’ and trying to make sense of them.

“I will also, during this process of reflection, ensure that my hard-left colleagues tighten their stranglehold on the party and decide my replacement because who better? The Blairites? No thank you.

“I still think ‘Go and die, Obi Wan F**knuts’ could well mean ‘your manifesto is hugely popular and you’re the man for us’. If given the correct Marxist reading.”

The Exiled Tim
December 13, 2019 12:50 pm

Well well well, the racist brits have spoken in vast numbers, no care whatsoever for the health service, austerity as long as they keep the coloureds out, as sad as it gets, on the same kinda vein, the torys must have known they were going to win this election, when I was in the post office this morning Pedro the postie was rather miffed that on top of the Christmas deluge of parcels all the brits who live here and there are wheans more than I knew have all received notification from the UK government that six months from the 31st January they government would no longer be paying for their health and they needed to avail of their own, as a resident it doesn’t affect me, gonna be major problems ahead me thinks, I can see many many thousands of brits heading home and this will surely cause bigger problems for the government.
Something tells me they really didn’t think of all the ramifications, but they won’t care will they.

big packy
December 13, 2019 1:59 pm

BOBBY, just got in and saw your post, will e-mail you.hh.

December 13, 2019 2:02 pm

Its Friday. Get happy!

This globe, just where did it all go wrong.
One is a peach of an arse, one is impeached.
There’s nothing peachy though even if I do reside in millions of peaches ( peaches for me) land.

Children are the true wealth of this world,, I refused to have one for years due to the state of this place but a woman has ways and means.
Never mind the football, we need off this rock.
Anyone fancy a whipround to buy Irlandia el Secondia that lies out third arm of the McFlurry stellasphere? Big flies but no politics allowed on planet.

Ho Ho

December 13, 2019 2:05 pm

Stayed up ’till about 2am. It’s not the same these days. I used to enjoy watching the results coming in not knowing the outcomes. Since the exit polls are a lot more accurate nowadays it’s almost pointless after 10pm.

December 13, 2019 2:08 pm

Perhaps Corbyn was daft enough to believe that the truth will out?
The UK has always in the modern era tried to emulate the USA.
With this election they have succeeded as morality and honesty have had no bearing.
The me generation has prevailed.
Only thing needed before the UK is accepted as the 53rd state is a handing over of healthcare and a repeal of sensible gun laws.

December 13, 2019 2:22 pm

It’s amazing the amount of Labour candidates who have now come out and admit that knocking on doors, the big issue was Corbyn himself. Not liked or trusted and no one knew what he stood for constitutionally. They couldn’t say it out loud during the campaign of course. I had my doubts about him myself. He had no charisma, didn’t come across as a potential PM. Mind you, neither did Bo Jo! When JC came out and said he was ‘neutral’ on Brexit, I feared the worst. One way or the other he should have taken a stance. It was a poor attempt at trying to be friends with everyone. Politics at it’s lowest level.

December 13, 2019 2:36 pm

Friday the 13th is very apt for today. Black Friday would be too much to ask.

Jim, I’m stuck on the last clue of the crossword here pal. Help me out please.
Clue is ” overworked postman ” ?

December 13, 2019 2:36 pm

If the Labour party had voted for David Milliband instead of Ed Milliband back in the day, we probably wouldn’t be in this situation today. David had the ‘popular’ vote of the members but Ed had the support of the big stakeholders – the Unions. Remind you of an AGM?

December 13, 2019 2:39 pm

Mahe, I’m hopeless at cryptic clues. Something to do with Postman Pat?

big packy
December 13, 2019 2:40 pm

JIM, I think corbyns heart was in the right place, but he didn’t come over well in the media ,plus most of the media are right wing anyway, and of course the chief rabbis comments didn’t help.

December 13, 2019 2:43 pm

Mahe, I’ve got it. Q – “How many letters?” A – Thousands and thousands.

December 13, 2019 2:45 pm

Jim 😉
You’re an auldheid I note.

big packy
December 13, 2019 2:45 pm

JIM, you wont believe this, I said to the mrs this morning, if they had only gone for david milliband things would have been different.

December 13, 2019 2:51 pm

Jim would you not take up politics yourself?
Hit the doors whipping up the fervour to be free of England?
You’re a people person, tall and eloquent.
Seems the nation needs you?

Ho Ho

December 13, 2019 2:52 pm

Packy, Corbyn is yesterday’s man now. The party needs shook up from top to bottom, and especially here in Scotland too. At our local council they have been getting into bed with the Tories on occasions only to do as much harm to the SNP as possible. That is not on! Make decisions based on your beliefs, if that means agreeing with the opposition (SNP) sometimes then so be it.