There Used To Be A Football Club Over There…


The above words are attributed to Keith Burkinshaw after his dismissal by Spurs. That dismissal came a few months after he had led the club to The UEFA Cup and shortly after the club converted to PLC status. The latter took precedence over the sentiment and goodwill of the former,and it would take another fifteen years and a takeover before they tasted silverware again.

It’s fair to say that Burkinshaw left somewhat disillusioned with events,and with the club. And with one man in particular-Irving Scholar,a money man with no previous experience in the game.

Some Celtic fans are also looking at their club now with a similar sense of disillusionment and the thought that there used to be a football club over there. Over a similar timeframe to the fifteen years of hurt endured by Spurs fans,we have gone from our own UEFA Cup Final heroics with a fearsome team and a Fortress Parkhead mentality to slinging mud at the wall to see where-or rather,if-it sticks. From Henrik Larson,Chris Sutton and John Hartson to,well,Cole and Ciftci. And similarly led along that path by a money man with no previous experience in the game.

We lost that game to Porto of course. To their gamesmanship and that of their manager. They went on to win The Champions League the following season,while we went on to lose Henrik and replace him with Henri Kamara. On loan. This wasn’t life in the slow lane,it was life in the sidings. It took a turn for the worse the season after that as the financial shackles were tightened by our Chief Financial Officer. We lost Martin O’Neil and his staff,Chris Sutton,Jackie McNamara,Johann Mjallby,Alan Thompson amongst others. John Hartson was out the following year and Bobo Balde was Persona Non Grata. Even though we had to pay him just to watch him sit in the stands. What a waste of a player.

We did though have a pragmatic manager in place. With a squad rebuild required,he signed quality where he could and compromised when he couldn’t. Rangers were on their own costcutting exercise at the time,so the effects of our own wasn’t so obvious or dramatic. And we won three titles on the trot with him,with a seven point gap at New Year in the fourth season.

It was here that the wheels really came off the wagon. Our CFO was by now long established as our CEO,and his word was law. He alone decided on the suitability of player purchases and he alone failed to see the change in direction of our despised rivals when Sir Walter of Cardigan returned. Certainly only he alone thought that a £50k winger from Dundee Utd would be enough in the January window to see us over the line.

The money man with,by now,five years of football experience gave us The Willo Window. The huns gave us the finger as they crushed us that season,and continued to spend outrageous sums in pursuit of the Champions League pot of gold needed to balance the books. They too won three titles in a row,along with CL money that they hoped would keep the wolves from the door.

Meanwhile,another avenue was being explored. The Old Firm card. Both Chief Executives,Lawwell and Bain,working closely together-as a single unit!-to entice the newly-minted English Premier League to allow us to compete on their patch. You’ll doubtless have seen the correspondence,and I’ve got it on a PDF. Utterly shameful behaviour,especially as our old and firm friends were committing GBH on our players while an approving eye was cast by referees and the wider Scottish game.

We,of course,just took it on the chin-and wrecked a highly promising managerial career in the process.

Neil Lennon arrived at a time when Rangers were in clear financial difficulty and on the verge of being sold for a pound. Whether they were worth that pound really depended on a good European run,and they would have two bites at the cherry to do so. Fail Fail-and they called in the administrators around six months after HMRC had called in the sheriff officers on an entirely different matter. They went nipples north in June 2012,and that should have been it. Party on,lads. Jelly and ice cream time.

Up till now,Celtic supporters had only concerned themselves with the massive drop in quality on the pitch. Oh,we knew about the cost cutting-we saw the results of it every week!-and voiced our disapproval,but we were told that books had to be balanced and sacrifices made. And it certainly seemed that the strategy had worked. Sure,we had lost three titles in a row to a financially doped and officially sanctioned rival,but they had gone bust in the process. They are the past,and we have the future to ourselves!

Well,not quite. The laws of the game and the law of the land were circumvented-to a loud silence from Celtic Plc-so that the huns could resurface as the same club with their entire trophy cabinet intact. No sporting advantage was deemed to have been achieved by playing teams filled with individuals on contracts which rode roughshod over registration and tax regulations. No requirement was deemed necessary for three years of audited accounts before admittance to The Scottish Football League. Etc,etc,etc. Rangers were back,as if they’d hardly been away. Most of Scottish football welcomed them with open arms.

We welcomed them with open legs.

Meanwhile,the good ship PL sailed on undaunted. His silence,ineptitude and impotence on all things regulatory was deafening as he made further inroads to every facet of the club. He assumed new roles as Head of PR,Interior Design,Director of Football,you name it and he was in charge. He brought in around £50m in fees from down south for some of the diamonds that emerged,but wasted that and more with an accumulation of dross that should never have been near a club of our stature. He forced Neil Lennon out after his assistant,Johann Mjallby,was replaced by a virtual unknown in Ronny Deila-only to hand the woefully underprepared Ronny the top job.

Armed with information supplied to him in the form of a silver bullet designed to bring down and restructure the SFA,he calmly ignored Resolution 12-2013 and even told shareholders at the AGM in 2018 that the four resolutioners were happy with how it was being handled. Fortunately,one of them was there at the time and stood up to be counted,nailing that lie for what it was.

Is that the only time he has lied to shareholders at an AGM? Well,some of us have proof to the contrary-and it is a striking-off offence.

But back to matters on the pitch. And last Sunday. You can see from the above that last Sunday has been a long time in gestation,and last weekend we finally gave birth to the monster we have reared within us. And what an ugly shouty wee bastert it is. Lawwell as Director of Football refused to support the best manager we have had since,probably,Jock Stein. Four transfer windows in a row where he sat on his hands. For instance,he could have bought a £5m centre half,approved by Brendan Rodgers,who would be better than Dedrick Boyata who could then be sold for the £10m offered. But there was a point to be made,and it was one which cost Celtic that manager when he walked just under a year ago. Boyata left for free along with about seventeen others-testament to the scattergun approach to recruitment by our DoF-which should at least have piled up about £15m in wage savings to be invested. Along with the £9m from Leicester for BR and £25m from Arsenal for Kieran Tierney,that’s about £50m to invest,eh?

Wrong as usual,guys. You really must pay attention. Due to his failure to invest wisely and promptly in various transfer windows,we haven’t been in the Champions League group stages for a couple of years. And that missing money has to come from somewhere. I mean,talk about penny wise and pound foolish? We have failed on the pitch due to lack of investment in the playing staff,so to make up for the resulting shortfall,we will decline to invest on the pitch?

We’ve got £60m in the bank,ffs. It doesn’t pay enough in interest to cover UEFA fines against the Green Brigade-or The Enemy Within,as he prefers to call Celtic supporters,people who actually pay for the pleasure of being there when he allows them to be.

We now have a football operation which is supporting the Plc even as it is being undermined by it. We have a public relations disaster on our hands because we continue to allow the most atrocious of lies to be bandied about our fans,our manager,our players and the very club itself. Even The New York Times is running with stories about racism at Celtic Park-because the club will not speak up for itself. The SFA give us the finger at every turn as does the SPFL. Chief executives and managers at various clubs roundly condemn us in every way imaginable,while the SMSM report it gleefully and make the rest up.

What they can’t make up,Jabba supplies and they print unquestioningly-witness the clown in the huns end last week who fell down the stairs but then told the papers he was hit by a pound coin.

Peter Lawwell,you were clearly good at something once. You have made more money from this club than any other employee in its long and glorious history so you can be very grateful that you will never need to prove your worth to another employer. I haven’t even scratched the surface in the above of your failings in over fifteen years at Celtic. I’m pretty sure history will not be kind to you,and the sooner you leave the better it will be.

Go now,while there are still enough Celtic supporters left to actually care anymore.


Above article by BMCUWP.

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January 4, 2020 4:48 am
January 4, 2020 4:50 am


Good to have you back,mate. I enjoyed our wee chat yesterday,cheered me up no end!

See ya in two weeks or so,and remember-to avoid hangovers,stay drunk!

January 4, 2020 5:25 am

Abso-bloody-lutely nailed it partner.
Top quality read Sir.
Respect and Hail Hail

January 4, 2020 5:42 am

100% correct Bobby yet most compliantly tug their forelocks and argue he has done a great job.
Sack the board.

Twists n turns
January 4, 2020 5:58 am



January 4, 2020 6:03 am


I think it’s fair to say that his support is on the decline. I joined CQN in early 2009 and there weren’t too many of us critical of him then. I watched with interest as our happy band,people who were familiar with the tale of The Emperor’s New Clothes,grew in number. Sadly,those numbers declined through time. But not because they had changed their minds,simply that they had tired of stating the obvious and being ragdolled by his cheerleaders. They just stopped posting.

There was about eighty of us in the pub last week,and I know almost all of them. None I know hold him in regard,and most used to. I reckon that will be the same in most Celtic pubs. His jaiket is on a ahoogly nail. None of the above article is personal,I might add-something I have been frequently accused of in the past. It is based simply on his performance in his many roles,almost all of which he has proved to be unsuitable at best,incompetent,or compromised.

January 4, 2020 6:12 am



Didn’t miss and hit the wall.

While others hide behind the continuity myth squirrel you have nailed the “big pedro” myth.

Great Stuff – And take a breath;)

Hail Hail

January 4, 2020 6:58 am


Thanks,lads. Much appreciated. To be honest,I wish it-and much more-didn’t need saying. But he’s the living embodiment of The Peter Principle. Never ends well.

The Gombeen Man
January 4, 2020 8:05 am

Well done Bobby.

That piece is the culmination of years following this story.

Till later.

big packy
January 4, 2020 8:07 am

BOBBY, fantastic and true account of pedros tenure, wish he would go now, in fact ill drive up to Scotland as we speak, and drive him to the airport.hh.

January 4, 2020 8:23 am

BMCUWP ????? Bravissimo ! ?

Cosy Corner Bhoy
January 4, 2020 8:26 am

Well PL might not need to work again when ‘exits stage left’ but he could write a book and BMCUWP could be his agent…..not!??
Grand article my son?!

Dharma Bam
January 4, 2020 9:21 am

Great article BMCUWP.
I hope that any attempts to end this Celtic farce by legal methods are like this article ie they don’t.miss and hit the wall!

January 4, 2020 9:41 am

Kudos BMCUWP – nailing your colours to the mast, along with your target’s erse – no mean feat my friend.
Of course he’s obsessed by money and returns – most CEO’s reporting dashboards are:
Yet, I think they over-estimate fan loyalty, which explains why they don’t do issues or reputation management so well.
if they don’t attend to the present issues, it’ll be crisis management by April or May! HH

January 4, 2020 10:54 am

Good stuff, Mick.
The amount of money they have taken out the club, over the years, really irks me too
Lawwell ‘s salary is not justified, in my opinion.
Don’t get me started on preference shares, ordinary shares and Desmond’s annual take out, it’s all about the money.
Funnily enough, as I type this, Eddie and The Hot Rods, Do anything you wanna do, comes on my I.POD, seems to be that’s what the PLC do, almost unchallenged.

January 4, 2020 10:56 am

Good to see you back posting, as someone said last night, blast your music.

January 4, 2020 11:00 am

“Neil Lennon will add players to his squad, but for me the team he has now is as good as it’s going to get.” Kris ‘fat boy’ Boyd

Ya see even the Huns know our plans for this transfer window!!!

January 4, 2020 11:05 am


Brilliant article Mick. Keep on keeping on. HH

January 4, 2020 12:33 pm

Not a happy clapping thought in sight (so far).But, but Peter has won us 10 trophies in a row…… ?



January 4, 2020 12:39 pm


Howdy,CRC. Always good to have the more discerning amongst us on board-and that your wicked wit hasn’t deserted you!

You must be due another Last Man Standing competition soon. I reckon you should change the rules,maybe give a chance to people who know eff all about football. Will the last man still supporting PL please stand up?

Sort of Celtic version of musical chairs.

January 4, 2020 12:42 pm

‘Sir’ Rodney Stewart has been charged by police after allegedly punching a security guard at a hotel in Florida.

Time to ban the ‘criminal’ element from Celtic park. An alleged assault on a security guard by both Rodney and his son. They will tarnish the good name of Celtic worldwide – Ban em’ Pete

Margaret McGill
January 4, 2020 12:51 pm

Honestly mate
That’s your best article yet
Not opinion just a litany of facts
Can I use it?

January 4, 2020 12:53 pm


Cheers,young fella. Feel free to share!!!

January 4, 2020 12:55 pm


Now now. We must not pre-judge the question of a Celtic supporter’s innocence or otherwise. That is simply not The Glasgow Celtic Way.


Bluegrass Celt
January 4, 2020 12:59 pm

Best article ever……….and they’ve all been of a high standard so far .
Bravo Bobby ??

January 4, 2020 2:05 pm

Has any one else considered this. +/- 10k fans on waiting list at £10 per fan = £100,000 pounds in the bank for next to no cost to the PLC? But wait I hear you say, if you don’t get a SB for next season you can claim your tenner back. OK 9IAR secured – Very few SB up for grabs for various reasons but best part of £100k safely ensconced in the oul bank account. The club then say rather than claiming for a refund renew your interest and re register on the waiting list. They get to keep most of the money. Worse case scenario 9IAR chucked out with the bath water. Reduced demand for SB – most on waiting list are offered a SB – so if you don’t take it you lose £10 as you have been offered a SB (or so I believe). Of those who aren’t offered only a small percentage ask for a refund.
Fecking genius so it is or have I missed something?

January 4, 2020 2:22 pm

A brilliant and depressing read as more of the same will follow.

January 4, 2020 2:50 pm

Getting a season ticket for next will be a dawdle if we lose the league.
I have sister’s, nephews, nieces uncles and aunts who are season ticket holders.
All are seriously fed up with their treatment from Lawwell.
To lose to the huns,coupled with the PLC’s bending over bare arsed to the huns has them really angry.
A few have already said they will chuck it due to the match day experience where a lack of facilities.inclement Scottish weather and the roughshod treatment by police and stewards ,while our board show contempt to these genuine complaint’s and has a tacit acceptance of criminal behavior by those in uniform.
The main focus of their anger is Lawwell and the joy when he departs will be celebrated like winning a trophy.
How many will make the decision to leave is debatable but amongst the older ones i think it will be high.
The youngsters will remain defiant giving our hun board a constant steam of fans to betray.

Awe Naw
January 4, 2020 3:15 pm

Brilliant BMCUWP

Can you imagine where we’d be in Europe if Jock Stein had just won ten domestic trophies in a row.

Qualification rounds. What’s that?

The Saatchi and Saatchi spin that has emanated from within the club and became the celtic following preferred doctrine since the summer of 2003 has enabled one thing. To maxamise revenue from the Celtic diaspora and keep this PLC in place for maximum return minimum risk. It’s a well balanced financial science……. I give you;

Brian Quinns FFP mantra… Only he personally benefited from that as far as Celtic is concerned.

The spectre of the state of things across the river. We don’t want to end up like them. Yet we were the architects of the 5WA.

For both of the above see Res. 12

Celtic FC would like to dissociate itself with Irish republicanism. This was due to being money horny for an EPL invite and making us more Anglian palatable. Conveniently sacrificed at the alter after most of our games were scheduled for Sunday midday k. o thereby excluding a large traveling Irish support from attending. English TV armchair subscriptions took priority here and always will with this plc. How to take in millions in a field in the highlands on a Sunday morning.

The shelf life of any Old Firm manager is only 4 years. From a club that had 5 managers in its entire history before the PLC trucked up. Meanwhile Walter Smith was laughing into his cornflakes.

EPL invites, European super leagues, Transatlantic thingmybobs, Old Firm Dubai games, Summer glamour tournaments, Testimonials, common wealth games LOL, CL qualifiers… Money generated versus uefa coefficient… Guess which one wins there

The well balanced financial science has now steered us into position that will ALLOW,… because that’s where the financial algorithm has to go…. a 7 year old Scottish club that has never turned a profit in its miniscule existence.. to appear better than us for a short time as it is expedient to the financial model

The entire Celtic cultural phenomenon sacrificed at the altar of Desmond Dermots way of operating. Very sad… Now back to Jock Stein

… I will now take questions… Hands up

January 4, 2020 3:57 pm

I agree its your best yet Bobby.
Thks AweNaw
Child woke up for two hours at 2.30am. Bad nights sleep here. I know you all wanted to know. I will Gloria Gaynor though don’t worry.
Hail Hail

January 4, 2020 4:20 pm

I was born on the 22nd of April 1969.
I made my debut in August 88 at centre half for Cambridge United.
The first of my 11 International caps came in Feb98.
My ex clubs include Man Utd and Celtic fc.
Who am I?

January 4, 2020 4:29 pm

I have just been sent the link to this site which I didn’t know existed. A great read and I look forward to reading the back category of posts… A lot of old scoundrels posting on here. gl2

January 4, 2020 4:32 pm

Dion Dublin?

January 4, 2020 4:34 pm

Many welcomes GL2.
Hope you enjoy our humble offerings. Take your shoes off and relax.
Hail Hail

January 4, 2020 4:34 pm

Oglach nails it. I did get a text quicker though 😉

January 4, 2020 4:36 pm

Welcome and enjoy.

January 4, 2020 4:37 pm

This made me smile. Linfield have just been chucked out the Irish cup by Queen’s University, from the third tier.
What a shame.??

January 4, 2020 4:39 pm

First weekend of the winter break and already getting withdrawal symptoms. Boredootmynappercsc ?

January 4, 2020 4:44 pm
January 4, 2020 5:00 pm Celtic Symphony (filmed@ replica CP?)-The Wolfe Tones ???

January 4, 2020 5:05 pm

Happy New Year everyone?

Back in Scotland again after the 29th debacle for my old mate’s surprise 50th

No party , he just doesn’t know he is 50. Ba dum toosh.

PS I was at the game on 29th but as part of my therapy , I trying not to have my moods defined by Celtic all the time

As such, had a pint with my section 406 pal, met an old Ayrshire schoolmate and gave him a bottle of whiskey he was after ; then met my best man (home from Singapore)…..wait , barmaid has just nicked my pint….OK sorted.. anyway , good mates get you over defeats?

January 4, 2020 5:10 pm

Hi Greenlion 2,

As newly ensconced myself it would be forward of me to welcome you, suffice to say, good to see you posting!!

On Keith Burkinshaw…

In the late 70’s we had a School visit in planing for sometime by our sports teacher. A visit to the National Sports Centre at Bisham Abbey.

At that time it was known as a Footballing place of excellence and the England National Team used to train and stay there before the big games at Wembley.

So we turn-up for a day out and the Tottenham team were training there, Glenn Hoddle et al woo-hoo. Great thinks us, especially my bff who was a mad Spurs fan, as quite a few of my School mates were.

So the teacher approaches the powers that be an asks can the boys meet the team. They ask Keith who promptly declines.

Fair do’s and we get on with the tour…

A bit later, complaints, some pupils had been trying to get a glimpse of Spurs players and the tour had to be stopped and we were to go back to school.

Now, Tottenham had been on the back of a bad series of results, I think the following Saturday they won well, so the team were obviously doing a lot of important work but for the pupils I was with it was out of order…

Hail Hail

January 4, 2020 5:17 pm

Gordon 64.
I don’t know if this is good or bad, but my 9 year old put me on to that song.
It’s on my I.POD now.

January 4, 2020 5:21 pm

Thanks for the welcome.. Reading back on the John Doyle thread and it brought back a lot of good memories of going to games against Ayr which were always good games and atmosphere with the terracing being so close to the pitch.. Hugh Sproat in his blue top etc. I was there that day when John got sent off for hitting the ref with the ball …. The joke at the time was he couldn’t have meant it as he had found his main with a cross..

big packy
January 4, 2020 5:37 pm

EVENING ALL, greenlion2 welcome aboard, hope my horse won, it was fav in a field of 5?

big packy
January 4, 2020 5:54 pm

just read on the other channel, a poster saying james mclean and aidan mcgeady might be available in the January sales, not for me,no harm to them good tims, but lets go forward not backward.hh,

January 4, 2020 5:56 pm

JNP ? Gr8 tune and superb video- Tones &I v Wolfe Tones ?

January 4, 2020 5:59 pm

PHIL LYNOTT: 20 August 1949 – 4 January 1986

Thin Lizzy ‘Emerald’
Phil’s homage to Ireland

Is there anybody here with any Irish in them? Are there any of the Girls would like a little more Irish in them?

big packy
January 4, 2020 6:01 pm

OGLACH, yes and yes?

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