And Breathe…


Who would have thought that an article about “the songbook” would have brought such a considered and polite debate? My grateful thanks to McCAFF for penning the article,and to all who argued their point of view with such passion and fortitude,and all without once crossing the line. The art of diplomacy is not dead,though sadly neither are the sectarianism and racism endemic throughout Scottish society.

As a particularly ugly example of this,it seems that Morelos is on a wee charity trip to Colombia. At least he isn’t using money raised to take his pals and his son on a white water canoeing jolly,although I’m sure the relevant charities were eventually delighted with the money that came their way as a result. Not that I recall much about the latter,mind-maybe I was otherwise occupied. Anyway,some scumbag sent a tweet to the journalist assisting him on this venture,telling her that she will be “six foot under” if she ever sets foot over here.

Needless to say,this moron has handily chosen a handle which ties him however tenuously to our club


Now,I don’t do Twitter,but I did try to find evidence of other tweets from this account. To no avail. Perhaps someone on here,one of The Twitterati,might have better luck. Either way,I’m sure that if Police Scotland ask Twitter for details of the account,the company will be only too happy to oblige. Can’t have their good name being dragged through the dirt,after all. Perhaps the Colombian Embassy in London might be interested in protecting one of their own citizens and bringing this scumbag to justice? Must be pretty boring for them just now,what with their house guest long gone. Ironically,he could probably have tracked the guy down for them!

So over to Police Scotland,then. I expect no stone unturned on this one-and if no culprit is identified,that will itself raise some interesting questions. I’ll leave you all to speculate on that one!

In other news,the huns seem hell-bent on poking a tiger with a sharp stick,having once again asked for a deferment on the case between themselves and Mike Ashley. I’m not sure that they have thought this through,and it seems to be another example of short-sightedness,of a short-term gain guaranteeing more long-term pain.

Let me explain. Next season gets underway in less than six months time. They have already been told that the final year of the Hummel deal cannot be exercised,and that Ideal Sports cannot sell their retail merchandise. They will need time to negotiate with a new manufacturer and also with a new retail partner. With SDI lurking in the background,I’m not so sure that any manufacturer will be interested. Apart from the risk of losing their investment,they wouldn’t want to risk losing the goodwill of the largest outlet in the UK. And rival retailers will certainly look at how much merchandise was shifted by Ideal Sports and reckon they might be better off agreeing to sell OJ Simpson’s new range of hand fashions. I would despair if it wasn’t so funny,except that I reckon that both Mike Ashley and Judge Persey aren’t quite so amused. This could run and run,even while the huns have nowhere to go. Can’t even appeal to a Scottish court,the poor sods.

Which brings us back nearer home,and the advent of the beginning of the next part of the season. Dropping a mere eight points in our first twenty games wouldn’t normally be viewed as not good enough,but we are in a very strange title race this season,as you know. I’ll deal with that nearer the time,on Wednesday prior to our league match away to Kilmarnock. It looks like we will be heading into the tie against Thistle on Saturday its only one new player on our books. At least Patryk Klimala is a striker,and one who looks the part on the dreaded YouTube clips. He will feel at home on Saturday-his old club,the Polish Jags play in similar colours! It makes good sense in my opinion to throw in a match fit and eager young fella against lower league opposition,giving him an hour or so to advertise his worth. Over to you,Lenny. The depth of our squad is frequently hailed as an advantage-it’s time to use it wisely.


Above article by BMCUWP. As the last couple of days,and plenty of earlier occasions,have shown,this is a site which welcomes the opinions of our contributors. If you would like to have yours printed as Article of the Day,mail Mahe at

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January 16, 2020 6:52 am

Belated welcome to the new posters yesterday.


The hand of God
January 16, 2020 7:07 am

Good morning…hugely important period of the season coming up with several league matches away from home which may be a good thing.

January 16, 2020 7:16 am


I gather that you and big Shilton don’t exchange Christmas cards.

January 16, 2020 8:00 am

As far as I can remember lately we have not had much luck rushing new players into the team especially non Scottish players it’s usually a colder climate rougher tackles and most don’t come from teams where a tie is like a defeat. I think blooding them in May help prevent injuries . I wonder if we should have stationary bikes near the dugout so that all the subs can take turns continually warming up throughout the game. It just seems to me once we decide to make a sub it takes forever to get them on and warmed up
I do hope to see Taylor against the Jags
Great posts the last couple of days a lot of you used your time well in school
Bed time in Vancouver

January 16, 2020 8:13 am

Just one other thing ,as I posted my comment above I thought it was ironic that as I am hitting the sack most of you on here are just getting up. It reminded me of a story a friend told me about his place of work. He worked for an engineering company in Vancouver and when their draughtsmen finished their work for the day another draughtsmen in A country where there was an eight hour time difference would log in the computer and take over,when he finished his eight hours another draughtsmen in another country would take over and then back to the guy in Vancouver it was worked on 24 hours a day
Now to most of you that probably isn’t out of the ordinary,but to a guy born in 1950 it and the advances in technology blow me away,I keep thinking what would my granny think ?

big packy
January 16, 2020 8:53 am

BOBBY, good article, but cant stand the name that begins with m and ends in s, to me he is in the neil mcann, nacho novo bracket.hh.

January 16, 2020 10:24 am

Given our relaxed approach to ‘the window’ and coincidental news that Helander and Capn Tav are out for a month or so, there’s just one question; does PL have a mole at TRFC’s doctors clinic?
BMCUWP; why not let Griff and Bayo loose for 90 to give them a chance rather than auto-choose our pimply young Pole?

Awe Naw
January 16, 2020 11:57 am


The decision on whether to change one part of the injunction is to be presented at a later date.

I would suggest that it is not in the huns favour. It delays any future shirt deal. It demonstrates the huns inability to “mediate”. It bolsters the impression that they have sold their shirts in order to get a lump sum up front that they can then present as part of the compensation to SDI.

I thought they asked for one particular part of the injunction (the ability to strike a new shirt deal with a new retailer) to be relaxed and that deliberations are still ongoing ?

January 16, 2020 12:00 pm

Awe Naw.
Are they not in court again today?

January 16, 2020 12:02 pm

I think they are playing for time till end of the season and if it goes for them they will get mega season tickets sold.

January 16, 2020 12:22 pm

Sorry bhoys are we still obsessing about Sevco? 🙂 Regardless of the outcome they will be with us next season. The SFA and our complicit board have ensured that.

Me – well I am more interested in what is happening, or not happening as it appears at the moment, at Celtic. A couple of days away from the re start of the domestic football season and we have a squad weakened by injuries and departures. True we have spent a reported £3.5 mill on another project (not just my opinion but also an observation made by former Celtic players) and I hope to be proven wrong on this. According to reports the much needed defensive midfielder we were allegedly ready to sign is now in doubt because of a dispute between the player and his current club! Another WTF moment – hadn’t Celtic undertaken due diligence on the player – existing contract, clauses and potential issues before expressing an interest to sign him.

FFS just go and sign Vic and Filip CSC

Awe Naw
January 16, 2020 12:41 pm


I really don’t know. I think the hearing was adjourned yesterday meaning there is nothing for any party to say any more. I expected (possibly wrongly) that therefore the deliberations will be given tomorrow as planned. How much the “knotty problem” influences those deliberations I cannot say but I don’t reckon it will change them by much. They are not being relaxed due to the need for cooperation with Sports Direct. The judged asked them to mediate and this is specifically a non mediation tactic.

Awe Naw
January 16, 2020 12:45 pm


How many times do I have to tell you that you we are Old Firm. 🙂

You need to stop with this Celtic Rangers divide pish. As that is what it is and your one of them. 🙂 🙂

Haven´t you been following Resolution 12.

Tell us what signings and in what formation do they need deployed to solve the Resolution 12 problem ? I´ll even allow Fan-A-Tic to help you ?

Hello darkness my old friend ……

January 16, 2020 1:58 pm

The latest delay on the Soro transfer is concerning and just shows how difficult it is to bring players in from abroad. Any further delays will put his availability for critical games in doubt. Presumably, both Klimala and Soro need work permits to add to the delay in getting them on the park.

Celtic play Aberdeen away on Feb 16 and Copenhagen at Parkhead four days later. It is already doubtful that Soro would be integrated into the team to play in either of those games. We shall need to be at our very best to beat Copenhagen….they do not give away many goals. Without an emphatic victory on Feb 20, we shall struggle.

In December 2019, it was clear that the team needed freshened but as time drags on the impact of new arrivals will be delayed. The loss of Christie is a potential lethal body blow. There is also the Lennon factor, in that he is slow to change his teams, so it takes longer for recruits to have an impact.

The next week is critical for new arrivals and their ability to impact on the team.

Of course, this all depends on the manager playing them.


January 16, 2020 3:36 pm

As i often state the Brown /Mcgregor axis is our real problem.
Here is Celtic by Numbers comprehensive stats on our midfield.

January 16, 2020 3:46 pm

I knew I should have sold my shares last month ⬇️⬇️⬇️
Market forces, something bad in the pipeline? Who knows?

Sell Sell Sell CSC

Margaret McGill
January 16, 2020 4:01 pm
January 16, 2020 4:18 pm

Anyone know who is selling?


January 16, 2020 4:30 pm

Apparently someone sold 88,000 on 10th January, that did not impact on the price that day. Over the past few days there has oeen a dribble of small sales a couple of them around the 3,000 mark but most of them in the hundreds.
Despite the small volume price has dropped from a high of 1.62 to a low of 1.30. Last Trade was done at 1.38.

January 16, 2020 4:32 pm

Maybe investors are spooked that we have bought someone who cost more than the fee’s gained from those we have offloaded in this window.
Can’t have spending on needed players impacting profit and cash hoarding..

Bada Bing
January 16, 2020 4:39 pm

Mags- I read the 2nd biggest shareholder mob,are struggling just now, could be linked..

January 16, 2020 4:49 pm

Morning troops.
Paul the Tim tweeting Soro done?
Hope so.
Snow expected today.
Hail Hail

The Gombeen Man
January 16, 2020 4:51 pm

Lindsell Train have been making news over recent weeks and months. Investors have been withdrawing cash and their main equity funds have been downgraded.
If the trend continues LT will have to sell stock to raise funds.

The price of Celtic PLC grew from 75p to 160 over a three year profit. There is still scope for investors to bank a substantial profit.

Our earnings have dropped and there is less certainty about our earnings given the emergence of Sevco and our need to compete and pressure to hold on to players.

A failure to win the league would mean no CL but a potential drop off on SBs and merchandise sales.

big packy
January 16, 2020 5:19 pm

evening all, mahe no forecast of any snow here in deepest Cheshire, but plenty of feckin rain, im soaked to the skin?

big packy
January 16, 2020 5:38 pm

IMHO, this transfer window business is a farce, years ago if you needed a player you just went out and bought one, you did not have to wait till the stupid window opened, yes even celtic went out and bought one, but that was before mr lawell came on the scene.hh.

January 16, 2020 6:20 pm

I’m blaming heedin the baw as a kid being the foremost reason for my inability to grow up.
The old Mitre moldmaster was worse than any clout to the head my mammy could ever deliver.
Perhaps those looking for eternal youth could use it as a massage tool in their daily regimen .

January 16, 2020 6:27 pm


Especially if cold and underinflated. A cruel and unnatural punishment,outlawed now under The Geneva Convention.

Mike in Toronto
January 16, 2020 6:29 pm

One of the first cases I worked on during my articling period involved a class action case, which was the first real case on concussions/traumatic brain injuries in minor hockey. That is where Dr. Charles Tator made his name as an expert on concussion related work.

As I said, I was still a student, so I was not the lead lawyer, but my job was to spend several months reading everything (millions of papers) on the issue, and then summarizing it for my boss.

I am no expert on the subject, but one of the things that surprised me is that, while blows to the head often caused the problems, that was not the case usually; it was often blows to other parts of the body, or not even blows …. if someone got hit in the stomach, they would double over …that caused more problems….

if you get hit in the stomach, the normal reaction is to ‘double over’….. as the head is the farthest part away from the fulcrum (where you bend over), that was the part of the body that would move the quickest … and the brain would slosh around in the brain pan ….they called it a whiplash brain injury…

this sort of thing happened much more frequently than actual blows to the head …

and the effect on the brain was just as devastating, and often more, than the injury caused by a blow to the head….

that is why some researchers say that, while head guard technology will help, it is but a small part of the solution….

January 16, 2020 6:39 pm

Mike in Toronto
So my large cavernous mostly empty head exacerbated the problem ?
My small brain was like the ball in a pinball machine the way it got smacked around.

Mike in Toronto
January 16, 2020 6:41 pm

As some of you know, my uncle was captain of Killie back in the ’60’s, and after his career ended, ended up having a real problem with the booze (not the onlyone of his era, sadly …) … tragic really….

but, in retrospect, I wonder if what we thought at the time were symptoms of alcoholism (slurred speech, memory loss…) were actually symptoms of long term brain injury ….

January 16, 2020 6:42 pm

Getting hit on the head was a blessing as you could not remember what happened.
A shot off the inner thigh or crown jewels was a different thing though.
Abject agony and a blistering tattoo as a reminder for weeks.

Mike in Toronto
January 16, 2020 6:44 pm


The one I pity is poor Gary “Heid” Caldwell .. a huge melon for a head!

big packy
January 16, 2020 6:47 pm

sorry ghuys off topic, but as regards my story yesterday about airdrie, my wife is talking to me now, p.s. the only airdrie tims I know is my mate the uber tim who posts on here, and that chap who used to do the phone in on sportsound of a Saturday evening, jimthetim Traynor was his name I think?

January 16, 2020 6:47 pm

Maybe it affected the Heid’s spacial recognition as he was always a yard to far away from his man?

Mike in Toronto
January 16, 2020 6:53 pm


His head was so big, I thought that perhaps it may have had its own gravitational force which affected the flight of the ball …

just joking … always thought that he tried his best when playing for us…so no offence intended to him.

big packy
January 16, 2020 7:06 pm

is the snooker on?

big packy
January 16, 2020 7:32 pm

was going to tell this to jim, but alas he has deserted me, only kidding jim?tomorrow at lunchtime god willing, I wil have fish for lunch maybe cod maybe haddock, its what ive done for over fifty years, Friday was always a fish day, remember the fish man pulling up in his van and my mother going out to collect the fish, it was what was done in a catholic household back in the day, why do I do it considering I haven’t been to mass in a few years, its just what we did, and im not going to change it now.hh.

A thing of beauty
January 16, 2020 8:37 pm

I have been thinking these last few days about Leigh Griffiths and my increasing concern that we may never see him return to his former glory. I was a big defender of Leigh and his need to have time off to get himself well again. We are all in some way touched by poor mental health, be that in ourselves, our family, loved ones or friends. The stigma is receding greatly and that is thanks to the raising of awareness by different charities and organisations. The thing is, the longer it took for Leigh to get fit, the more concerned I was getting as to whether he would ever be back. It’s fair to say, I think, from what we’ve heard or read that Leigh was not feeling a bit down, he was in a very dark place, somewhere we all hope we’ll never be.
Celtic as a football club knew that and rightly gave him time away from the game. I commended them for that. It has now been well over a year since Leigh was at his best and his comeback has stalled on numerous occasions, with Neil Lennon telling us at least twice since the close season that he just needs a couple of weeks to get up to speed. There was a training camp in Dubai and Leigh was pictured swigging back a beer on a private yacht. This coupled with pictures from his girlfriend of the new bar he had installed in his house infuriated me. I believe that if you are off sick it is your priority to address your problem and do all you can to fix it. But feeling like this about Leigh just didn’t sit right. I know he is a guy who loves his football and have heard true stories of when he wasn’t getting a game under Ronny deila of him begging to go play with the U21’s in a bounce game at Sunderland. So why is he not busting a gut to get back? The more I thought about it the more I began to think has he actually been let down by the club?
If we as lay people are off work and whilst we are off know that no one has been employed to cover our work surely we are feeling under intense pressure to get back to work. Therefore how much time are we devoting to our well-being? Is it possible that Leigh feels under too much pressure to return, especially now when he knows that he is desperately needed – not that his return is a bonus and he can feel his way back into the hot house environment of top class professional football without pressure to deliver.
I go back to earlier when I refer to how low he reputedly was. Celtic knew that and should have signed a top replacement. To not do that has possibly lead to Leigh being out longer than necessary. I view Patrick Klimala as another project but let’s hope he bangs in the goals as much for us as for Leigh. A Leigh Griffiths who is able to enjoy his football is the one we want back.
I so look forward to seeing the real Leigh Griffiths back in the groove.

January 16, 2020 8:51 pm

Fan a Tic

We have not had an effective CM in years. The basic requirement of a CM is positional sense and passing ability. Hard tackling or strong running can be benefits , but only if you have the basics

Scott Brown can tackle , used to be able to run ; but still cannot pass. His positional sense has improved, but 10 years too late. I blame Gordon Strachan for making him a CM and captain; clipping his adventurous wings. Great captain, not a great CM

I love CMcG but he is a no 10. He broke up the ineffective SB/ON partnership , but he shouldn’t stay there. Replace SB and let him move forward

Wanysma and Ledley was the last great CM; of course SB had to be banned or injured

Tin hat on ; but I am right ?

Fairhill bhoy
January 16, 2020 8:52 pm

ATOB-good to see you back
No matter grifs off field problems,which we all want him to find peace with
He will never be the striker we had,age testifies to that

January 16, 2020 9:00 pm


Winter break in Dubai always has a bit of R&R. I don’t think Leigh is doing anything the others aren’t. Expensive though, 12 euro a pint

Fairhill bhoy
January 16, 2020 9:05 pm

We won the league when GS had no option but to play Hartley and Robson in the mid

January 16, 2020 9:12 pm

Packy, My mother was no daft. We ate fish on a Friday. If we couldn’t afford it, we ate what we had! Our Lord Jesus would have agreed! He was a rebel. In the Best sense of the word. He turned Water Into Wine!

A thing of beauty
January 16, 2020 9:15 pm

Coney bhoy,
I agree about brown and the problem we have that he is and has been a mainstay in our team. He used to infuriate me and is/was the epitome of a player with a great engine. Ffs it’s football, not formula one!! I once had a list in my head of the numerous central midfield partners that had to leave Celtic Park as they could not play along side him. But as you rightly point out, he is a superb leader and that’s why we can’t do without him. As fairhill also points out it was robson and Hartley who won that league together, neither could gel with brown. Fanatic is always pointing out the ineffective partnership that is brown and mcgregor. Celtic by numbers confirms this. It is some quandary for sure.
As for Leigh, I realise he is not doing anything others maybe aren’t but they aren’t coming back from a long term lay off. But that was not the main point in my post. I was trying to saying that I fear he may be frightened of getting match fit as the pressure may be too much.

January 16, 2020 9:29 pm

Packy, did you read abut that dog walker woman today? Horrible. Hope she gets time in prison.

January 16, 2020 9:30 pm

Ian Poveda the next player to move from Man City to us?
He’s a winger.
Seemingly Celtic are trying to sign him, so the rumour mill say.

Margaret McGill
January 16, 2020 9:31 pm

last time Celtic shares dropped this much in one day was when the huns died…….

Keep dropping ya bastarding share price IDGAF about my shares.

January 16, 2020 9:32 pm

Our present midfield area could be classifie as d a place where our opponents have lots of time and space to cause us problems no matter how limited they actually are.
It is not just Brown but he is being played in a position that he is unsuitable for.
Same for McGregor though i fear he has been Brehdaned so not a viable No 10 as he is no longer capable of looking or passing forward and making telling runs.He has become a pass safely and watch player.
The issue seems to be we are always trying to make do with what we have and with a cautious coach like Neil this exacerbates that problem with his reluctance to give youth a chance or see beyond his favorites.
All our players would benefit from coaching that defined their roles but that sadly seems to be missing.
Can’t see much changing in the near future as there seems to be a lack of vision throughout the club.

January 16, 2020 9:33 pm

Mags, don’t worry, It might be for a very good reason.