A Bewildering Day I Could Have Done Without!

Everyone seems to think of Partick Thistle as the plucky little underdogs,the team of choice for the neutral or non-aligned footballers. Or as the butt of the occasional joke,like everyone knowing them as Partick Thistle Nil. They obviously weren’t where I was on 23 October 1971.

I wasn’t long turned eight years old,but was already a four year veteran at Celtic Park. But that was it,I’d never yet been to an away match apart from Clyde,Kilmarnock or Ayr. This wasn’t just an away match,it was a Cup Final! You’ll gather that all my Christmases had come at once when my Dad told me I was going to the game on the Saturday,and I was getting increasingly excited as the week dragged on.

Partick Thistle Nil? No-one told their players that on the day. We were,admittedly,missing a few of our regulars but still had a team available to take comfortable care of the game. Ronnie Glavin gave Jimmy a dull one early on,subbed by Jim Craig,and of course they were four up by half time.

I’d never even seen Celtic lose a match before. Ever. And certainly not this heavily,and by half time too. I do know that the expression-WTF?-didn’t occur to me,but I’m quite sure that they did for most of the crowd-even the Thistle fans!

So fast forward about 25-30 years,and I’m in the company-not for the last time-of one of the goalscorers that day. Bobby Lawrie. His daughter was the barmaid in my local and he finally opened up a wee bit about how surprised they were too at events. He said he would never forget that day-I assured him that I wouldn’t either!

So we play them again today,and for the second time in a cup competition this season. Last time,it was 5-0 to the good guys,with Scott Sinclair scoring and more importantly,Jeremie Frimpong making his debut. I’ll take that or similar today too,thank you. But let’s not be churlish about things. Partick Thistle thoroughly deserved their victory that day,and those players deserved their day in the sun,or maybe a wee chat now and again thirty years later down the pub. I’m finally over it,I guess. But here’s a marvellous article I unearthed which gives you some flavour of being a Partick Thistle player that day.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2348822/The-day-Hansen-and-Thistle-were-a-thorn-in-Celtics-side.html

Above article by BMCUWP.

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Mahe
Mahe

Arzani in tonight squad

big packy

BOBBY, was at that game in 71, could not believe it, but fair play to thistle they deserved it,hh.

Gordon64

Mahe He should be available now that he is no longer doing the voice of Apu in the Simpsons.Hh ?

Thetic

We complain about the refs but didn’t our manager agree to sit on a committee to look at refereeing in Scotland
How’s that working out Neil ?

The hand of God

Could be a tough one today Mc Call has them fairly well organised….Dindee Utd put 4 past them last week mind you but they have certainly improved since his arrival

Gordon64

Troonbhoy- Sarfraz Manzoor writer of the movie ‘Blinded by the Light’ a great listen on the Dermot O’Leary radio 2 show this morning. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ku_KhAX3BIA ?

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Some fantastic music last night,folks. I like to think that a certain person upstairs might have taken some time off from jamming with John and George to click on some of them,with a nostalgic sigh.

Take a bow,y’all.

Loved it when WeeBGFC ‘weighed’ in with his first choice-but going back thirty-odd years before his birth with the best track on the best Strolling Bones album? Kwalityman!

That’s my music sorted for my trip home in a week!!!

Amazing Echo

Glad to have found this site. Was an infrequent poster on another place.
Good mix of posts I agree with – and those I don’t. Just what I’m after!
Second chapter of the season awaits…..

Billy Bhoy

The 1971 LCF was my first Celtic game. I was 10.
I remember all the men around me being amused when it went 0-1, then bemused when it went 0-2. When the third went in people started looking at their watches to try and reassure themselves that we still had enough time to turn things around. Some wondered aloud if big Jock knew what he was doing
When the fourth went in there was a lot of “aw FFS” and “I’m away to the pub”.

Hopefully, any 10 year old Tim going today will have a more pleasant experience.

CaltonTongues

BMCUWP,

I turned 12 on the Monday following the Thistle Final.
Was allowed to go myself from Easterhouse via Garngad.
First time for me seeing Celtic get beat in a final live.
True about Ronnie Glavin (a Tim as well), crippling Jinky early on.
I can vaguely remember Thistle scored nearly every time they attacked in the 1st half and we totally dominated the game.

Kenny Dalglish scored our consolation goal although we missed many chances. Kenny has scored in two Finals for us and we lost both, friggin jinx.

Having to drive the supporters bus to Firhill today so won’t get a drink till back of eight, bassa.

HH

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CALTONTONGUES

We went on a roll of losing league cup finals after that. Didn’t win again,I think,till 83-Tinseltown In The Rain!

Drookit by full time and not giving a…

SOLKITTS tells it better-his first final as a Tim.

Enjoy the post-8pm prandials!!!

Oglach

Interesting comments from Lenny on our new ‘Paddy’

“We had to move now as there was a lot of interest and he could go on and do good things”

Is this an admission that he is indeed a project? ‘Could go on and do good things’ isn’t the best endorsement I have heard of a player from a manager?

I guess time will tell and hopefully we will get a glimpse of Patryk K this evening and that he turns out to be as an astute buy as was the pittance we paid for Henke. Also personally I don’t like the tag Polish Paddy. Was McCourt Irish Paddy, Was Roberts English Paddy? Just plain oul’ Paddy will do for me – just an opinion mind.

Lenny also hinting there may be another signing or 2 before the window closes. If that is indeed the case lets hope that they are the players that Lenny requested – experienced, 1st team ready. Me I’m still hoping for loan deals for Vic and Filip given we have basically spent heehaw thus far this window.

Also Eboue Kouassi allegedly in Belgium discussing a loan move to Genk. Just the chance he needs. Let’s see if he can impress there. Not sure why Lenny never gave him a chance given Eboue must be fit if another team are willing to take him. I suspect there may well be an option to buy along with the loan deal. Guess he could be picked up +/- £500k if anyone wished to buy, think we paid circa £2mill for him from a Russian team Anywho best of luck to the lad if he does move.

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A warm welcome aboard to AMAZING ECHO who also summed up the intended ethos of the site.

HH

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OGLACH

On the few occasions I’ve seen Kouassi,he gave me the impression that he was a good un. Read the opposition well. Would tackle a brick wall and pass it to a better footballer. Some players became a legend doing just that.

If he is fit enough for another side to take him,he should be playing for us.

Gordon64

Bmcuwp We were in 14 consecutive League Cup finals from 64 to 78 and between 70 and 78 we won just one LC final in the 6-3 game against Hibs in 74. Statocsc ?

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GORDON64

How could I forget the Hibs one-d’oh!

I think Joe Harper was credited as scoring a hat trick despite being on the losing side,but I’m adamant that Billy got a toe in on one for an og.

Dixie of course got his own hat trick-the best being a header from a shockingly off target effort from Jinky.

I think we beat them 5-0 the week before,three up in 30 minutes. Nobody foresaw the collapse to come in the early spring…

Gordon64

BR signed Eboue Kouassi in 2017 from Krasnodar for a reported fee of £3million during which time he has made 12 appearances. Wikicsc ?

bada bing1

statement on Saturday, the club said: “Rangers is astounded by the notices of complaint issued by the SFA.

“It is concerning that it seems the governing body is seeking to hold Rangers to a different and more stringent code of conduct than that applied to others, with unprecedented charges being levied against the club.

This shower couldn’t get a red face at a bonfire

fan-a-tic

Oglach BMCUWP
Kouassi like others was a victim of circumstance.
Rodgers openly admitted he was good enough but second fiddle to Brown who kept on producing.
Unfortunately when Brown had a spell out Kouassi was injured too.
When Neil a coach who uses his ears more than his eyes arrived he had no chance.
I remember against Killie when Ralston played like Cafu and scored Kouassi was running the show then got a bad injury towards half time.
He has just been unlucky and probably had no chance under Neil.
I think he will make us regret losing him.

bada bing1

Morelos made a “game over” gesture to the home support he walked off the park after being sent off

From The Hun online

Gordon64

Bada That ‘statement’ sums up the complete farce that is Scottish football. Hh

fan-a-tic

Bada Bing1@1-12
( This shower couldn’t get a red face at a bonfire)
Thats why our board and their hun bedfellows make such a fitting partnership.

Mahe

Amazing Echo, .
Big welcome, glad you like the site. They’re a great bunch. Look forward to reading your views.

Another statement eh? The have the media side sewn up one must admit.
Looking forward to some footie today.

Hail Hail

Oglach

Spot the difference

Koninklijke Beerschot Antwerpen Club , simply known as Beerschot AC, was a Belgian football club based in southern Antwerp. Beerschot played in the Belgian Pro League from 1999–2000 (as Germinal Beerschot) until 2012–13, when they were relegated not only through their league position, but also lost their professional license through financial issues, being officially declared bankrupt on 21 May 2013 – one week after the season had ended.
After being relegated in 2012–13, the club went bankrupt at the end of the season, was removed from competition altogether and folded shortly afterwards.
In June 2013 K.FC.O.Wilrijk unofficially integrated Beerschot AC’s identity into theirs to become FCO Beerschot Wilrijk, moving to Beerschot AC’s vacated stadium.This new club started in the first division of the Belgian Provincial leagues.

The Rangers*. Founded in March 1872, ‘Rangers’ are the fourth-oldest football club in Scotland and were one of the 11 original members of the Scottish Football League and it remained in the top division continuously until a financial crisis during the 2011–12 season saw an administration event occur and the original company liquidated with the assets moved to a new company structure (*SEVCO).The club was accepted as an associate member of the Scottish Football League and placed in the fourth tier of Scottish football league system in time for the start of the following season. Rangers then won three promotions in four years, returning to the Premiership for the start of the 2016–17 season. While in the Scottish lower divisions, in addition to winning all three leagues they also won the Scottish Challenge Cup, which meant they became the only club in Scotland to have won every Scottish trophy.

* Added by moi

Rebus67

Bobby, as you say, PT was a club for neutrals or if your real team was playing away, you went to Firhill. In tye sixties I had very little money so away games with Celtic were unaffordable. I would roll up to Firhill to see the Jags perform.

Memories have dimmed due to age and Shiraz but two surface every so often. Firstly, was a game where tge Jags hosted Hearts. I do not remember the game but I can still see the warmup by the Hearts team. One player stood out and that was Willie Wallace. He received a pass over his shoulder and pulled it down with one foot and hit it with the other into goal. During the game I paid particular attention to his play. He had it all…ball control, robustness, positional sense and goal scoring. In addition he had a tremendous engine. Fortunately, Jock Stein saw the same and he ended up a Celtic player.

My second surviving memory of Firhill is going to see their debut in Europe in the Inter-City Fairs Cup when they played a Czechoslovakian team, Spartak Brno. PT won the game by a single goal but you could see the opposition were a class above. Brno won 4-0 in the return. That was the beginning of my realisation that European teams were moving onto a different level from our teams. Thinking at the time was that the Europeans were fancy but we could outrun and outmuscle them. Luddite thinking, I am afraid! Incidentally, PT finished above Celtic that year in the league……third behind Killie and Rangers.

The current Thistle squad are a pale shadow of the 1963-64 team and we should win easily today.

Rebus

jimthetim53

Bobby, your horse is a non runner

Gordon64

Firhill Jan 1995 Thistle 0 Celtic 0- One of the most inclement days i’ve ever experienced watching Celtic and a shocker of a game to boot. ?

jimthetim53

Mahe your race time was 13.15 not 3.15. Doesn’t matter, it came in 6th. 🙁

jimthetim53

Wee Pukki has just scored a penalty for Norwich.

Delia will be pleased!

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
23 October 1971
Partick Thistle 4–1 Celtic
Rae Goal 10′
Lawrie Goal 15′
McQuade Goal 28′
Bone Goal 37′ Report (page 4) Dalglish Goal 70′
Hampden Park, Glasgow
Attendance: 62,470
PARTICK THISTLE:
GK 1 Alan Rough
DF 2 John Hansen
DF 3 Alex Forsyth
MF 4 Ronnie Glavin Substituted off
DF 5 Jackie Campbell
DF 6 Hugh Strachan
MF 7 Denis McQuade
FW 8 Frank Coulston
FW 9 Jimmy Bone
MF 10 Alex Rae
MF 11 Bobby Lawrie
Substitutes:
MF ? Johnny Gibson Substituted in
Manager:
Davie McParland
CELTIC:
GK 1 Evan Williams
DF 2 David Hay
DF 3 Tommy Gemmell
MF 4 Bobby Murdoch
MF 5 George Connelly
DF 6 Jim Brogan
MF 7 Jimmy Johnstone Substituted off
FW 8 Kenny Dalglish
MF 9 Harry Hood
MF 10 Tommy Callaghan
FW 11 Lou Macari
Substitutes:
DF ? Jim Craig Substituted in
Manager:
Jock Stein
As you can see no-one would have predicted the score that day considering the respective talent in each side.
One side had an off day and the other played above themselves.
The rare occasion when Jock was bettered by an opposition coach.
Football nowadays rarely has a David and Goliath moment.
Cash and corruption has removed any silly notion of competition.

fan-a-tic

Team.
CELTIC: Forster; Frimpong, Jullien, Bitton, Taylor; Brown, Ntcham, McGregor, Rogic; Griffiths, Edouard.
Subs: Gordon, Simunovic, Klimala, Bauer, Arzani, Hayes, Bolingoli
Shved who impressed Lennon in Dubai again overlooked.
Probably impressed like in Europe where he scored a cracker and has not been seen since.

MarioB

Fanatic, amazing looking at both teams on that day, what were the odds I wonder. as you staTef the game is a bogey, alas. More to the detriment of the supporters. Well the Teams that are part of Scottish football are to blame. A new start was available to them. We all know why they did not take that opportunity.

MarioB

Not really understanding that team, could poss been a wee bit more adventurous, strange subs bench to me a lot of doubling up. Can’t see strategy, mabes that’s why am no a manager.

fan-a-tic

Mario B
I think the game is a bogey and not just the SPL.
Modern football is overcoached and overhyped.
The vast majority of games are boring tactical non events.
Financial fear is ruling.
The European competitions are dull and relatively predictable.
The top nations have no interest in the Europa league as it has little financial benefit.
Audience viewing is declining as is tv ad revenue..
Eventually clubs will own their individual tv rights reducing UEFA and FIFA’S corrupt stranglehold.
May be that only a return to it’s parochial roots and international knock out competitions will give us back the once beautiful game.

fan-a-tic

Against Partick Thistle the coach has 4 defenders on the bench and two of them are potential left backs as well as Taylor who is in the team.
Have Thistle signed Mo Salah in this transfer window?

MarioB

Fan-a-Tic, a fantsy has been running around my head for a few nights now re: Celtic in near future, mental in my head. just need to write it up properly. may put it in for pre submission. It’s futuristic fantasy but possible.

big packy

EVENING ALL, hope the new bhoy gets a runout.COYBIG.hh

fan-a-tic

MarioB
Go for it.
Mahe and BMCUWP always welcome contributors.
Look forward to reading.
HH

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MARIO

Get on the hallucinogenics,mate. My thoughts on Celtic in the near future might not be too complimentary,so we could sure do with a smile.

MarioB

bmcuwp – don’t need drugs, alcohol never touched the ol vino for months. think I am worse now than when I was drinking. No inclination to go back there. Don’t think I could hack initial dreaded red wine hangover.

fan-a-tic

Bitton off Simo on after 8 minutes.
Was he not prepared and warmed up properly as there was no real strenuous tackle before he kicked ball out and clutched hamstring?
Our training staff need to be seriously questioned with the amount of injuries we pick up.

fan-a-tic

Griff 1-0

Gordon64

Not sure what the fingers in the ears celebration is about? ? Jozo on for Biton after 7 mins

fan-a-tic

21st minute Julien heads Griff corner over.
Should have hit the target.

fan-a-tic

Frimpong showing caution.
A few times he has had space to attack but opted to check run and pass inside.
Has his youthful exuberance subsided or is it coaching directive?

fan-a-tic

MIller shot saved by FF after defense caught square and ball watching.

big packy

should have let griff take that free kick.hh.

fan-a-tic

Frimpong pushed in box but no penalty given.
Was first time in game he took man on outside.
He seems to be falling into our habit of receiving pass, hesitating and squaring ball.
Miller misses sitter on stroke of halftime.Hits woodwork after we are again caught ball watching.

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