The fall out from the Old Firm game-and let’s not kid ourselves anymore,it was the Old Firm game-at the end of last month continues even yet. Last night,BADABING informed us that Derek Ferguson is still defending the throat-cutting gesture from Morelos. As this was on BBC Radio Scotland,I suggest that we all write to the Director General to ask if this is now official BBC policy,and can we expect such gestures to be permitted and defended on,say,Question Time or The Andrew Marr Show?
While you are doing so,ask if your letter can be treated as a job application-Tony Hall resigned yesterday,obviously anticipating this article!
Really,the BBC-even the sad sacs in Glasgow-should know better than to give credence to this suggestion. I could understand the better,more intelligent pundits like Stuart Cosgrove being allowed to rip apart the ongoing defence and cover up,but allowing neddish quarterwits like Ferguson and Rae air time to display their prejudices for all to see and hear,I’m sorry but that is not public broadcasting at anything like its best.
They are simply repeating a fairytale concocted by the utterly shameless and reprehensible Jim Traynor,and one which was ruthlessly exposed almost immediately for the lie that it was-by the Press in Morelos’ homeland! I’m sure that our native journalists are very pleased with themselves that they have now brought the reputation of their once-honourable profession to such a low that it is actually worse than that of a recent Banana Republic and Narco-State!
Think on that one,even if you struggle to digest your breakfast at the very thought of it.
Now,let’s roll this back a little bit. Let’s ask ourselves a simple question. How did we ever find ourselves in such a tangled web-Scotland,the country which even now provides the Laws of the Game to the rest of the world as part of IFAB,and has been instrumental in bringing the game into the modern world 160 years ago,and to many countries since.
The obvious answer lies in who the wee thug plays for. Had he been playing for,say,Hearts while committing his offences over the last eighteen months,he would have been sine-died by now. Guaranteed,and good riddance too. But almost since the minute he walked through Customs Control after signing,he has been promoted and protected like the last surviving member of an endangered species. A Giant Dodo,or Great Oik spring to mind. More copy has been written telling us all of his greatness than there has been about Trump Xi and Johnston combined. His value has skyrocketed like that of a publicly-listed FAANG,while the truth is more akin to a dotcom bubble of twenty years ago.
But that’s what the press do,of course. They have always done things like that. Whether it be politics,music,sport,they will always promote their favourites. So we cannot pretend surprise here.
Where we DO have cause for complaint is with the officials,and with their own version of the kid glove cheerleader approach to him. From being ‘Just a little silly’ to full-on multiple assaults on our players amongst others. And all pretty much unpunished. Even to the extent that a referee stood in defence of him a year ago,saying that he had SEEN the attacks on Brown,Christie,Ralston. Not only did he see no reason to act on what he had seen,the fact that he didn’t was deemed to be enough in the eyes of the SFA.
You’re kidding me,right? Referee admits to seeing stuff but taking no action. SFA decide that means that no action can be taken against the player-and that no action can be taken against the referee either. Have you ever seen a bigger incentive for someone so minded to take advantage of A CHEAT’S CHARTER?
Well,how about this one? The latest in a long line,though unlikely to be the last,of course. The SFA have decided to cut out the middle man and do the facilitating themselves.
Wholesale cheating,if you will!
Morelos was sent off on the 29th,a second yellow card for diving when it would have been easier to score. On the way off the pitch he made his infamous throat-slitting gesture,one which could easily have led to a violent reaction from the fans in an already volatile atmosphere. The SFA Compliance Officer reviewed the match,and we alll know which was the only incident she deemed fit to cite for further punishment. I’ll leave the ins and outs of that decision for now,it is irrelevant to this article,except for the speed with which justice was dispensed in Ryan Christie’s case.
THREE BLOODY WEEKS later,and after much hunfuckwittery in the Press as they concocted increasingly surreal versions of events to defend the actions of Moreorlessaned,we finally got an explanation.
That Kevin Clancy had acted after the game,given him a third yellow card and that was it. Case closed.
We all waited for a statement on these events from Celtic,but none was forthcoming. Thankfully-their statements over the years have been a bigger pile of pish than we get served up to us in the papers.
No,the way to deal with this is not with a meaningless statement,it is by referring to the rule books. You may remember I mentioned IFAB above? Well,we start with The Laws of the Game. These are agreed by FIFA/UEFA and acted upon by the member federations and associations. Every year,IFAB issue an update on the laws and these are then passed down the line to be enacted at local level. So what are the relevant sections for dealing with Morelos?
He has already received a red card as a result of his second yellow,so from the SFA Judicial Panel Protocol,
Section 3-Sending-off Offences
“A5-Offensive,abusive or insulting language and/or gestures.”
Well,that means that if Clancy has seen enough to act,then the correct response is another card-but a RED one,not a craven yellow one. However,this was not reported at the time,nor even mentioned at all for a full three weeks.
How strange. How,in fact,unprecedented. Of course,we can all recall seeing players-Dean Windass,for example-receiving multiple red cards for afters on the way off the pitch. No yellow cards,craven or otherwise. Straight reds every time.
So the simple question is why the yellow when that punishment is not available under the SFA JPP,it’s own version of the laws handed down by FIFA and IFAB? Are the SFA complicit in breaching their own JPP and therefore The Laws of the Game?
Sure looks that way,and I don’t think FIFA would view such a cavalier approach too kindly. But wait-it gets worse. The days of multiple red cards are over,by FIFA/IFAB decree,and also included in the SFA JPP-which,remember,is its own wee handbook of the laws and how to apply them.
Section 2-Offences/Excessive Misconduct
1-Reporting of Offences by Match Officials.
“1.3 The referee shall also report offences by players,including details,where the referee cannot administer a caution or sending-off for the offence but otherwise would have done so(for example,the player has already been dismissed during the match). Such offences,and offences for which a caution or sending-off has been administered,shall all be treated as cautionable or sending-off offences as applicable in these Disciplinary Procedures.”
So,in other words,Clancy not only took the wrong course of action by dishing out a third yellow for a red card offence,he took the wrong course of action by handing out his form of summary justice at all. He was no longer in control of Disciplinary Procedures as he had already sent Morelos off.
His only possible course of action,having issued a red card then seen Morelos in breach of Section 3-A5 was as a witness to events,and to provide evidence to the SFA for further disciplinary action as appropriate to take its course.
Naturally,I believe Clancy has a very good defence against the suggestion that he acted inappropriately on the day. The very obvious one,in fact. That he did no such thing. This is known in Scotland as The Dougie Dougie Defence,and is one that usually only comes out in the wash after,ironically,an attempted whitewash and revision of events to suit a narrative.
But wait-surely he must have done it if the governing body and its own Compliance Officer,a qualified lawyer,say so. Why would they lie? Well,again let’s roll it back. Did Traynor act like a man who knew there was no case to answer when he was concocting his hallucinogenic fantasies about the meaning of a throat-slitting gesture in Colombia? Did Gerrard,when he was defending his player but pointing out that the club would still defend the player against additional charges? The Press,when they were repeating the narrative? Even the SFA’s own disciplinary website didn’t have any record of additional punishment!!!
This is not only a cover-up after the event,another example of protecting a thug who,believe me,is going to do someone a serious injury due to being indulged.
This. Is. A. Serious. Breach. Of. The. Laws. Of. The. Game.
This isn’t a referee interpreting a borderline case in the blink of an eye,the only time afforded him in the hustle and bustle of a match. This is a post-red card offence,where the referee is NOT EVEN ALLOWED TO TAKE ACTION other than to compile a report. And he didn’t-yet we are now being fed the blatant lie,despite all evidence to the contrary,that he did. Case closed.
Not so. The SFA have broken their own regulations,and in so doing have broken the regulations,The Laws of the Game,handed down to them from on high by FIFA/IFAB. That makes this no longer a local dispute,it makes it much more important than that.
They have moved into a whole new world of wholesale cheating,of rampant hunfuckwittery,of offering the huns a Get Out of Jail card and life-support machine all in one. They are now subverting The Laws of the Game. These are sacrosanct and not open to local interpretation.
This is why I said at the start that the usual mealy-mouthed statement from Celtic would not have sufficed,and that I was happy that none had even been attempted.
This is time for a complaint to FIFA itself. They need to be made aware that a local association is bringing them into disrepute,and with it,the game itself.
I refer you to the mail sent to the SFA by SOLKITTS of this parish,as posted on this site a few days ago. It reads-
As a retired referee who officiated in England, I was intrigued to read that a Rangers player, Alfredo Morelos, was cautioned for a 3rd time in a recent match versus Celtic, and that the 3rd yellow card was administered after Mr Morelos had been sent from the field of play.
Would you be so kind as to clarify the protocol which the match referee was following by punishing this further misconduct? As Mr Morelos had already been dismissed and therefore taking no further part in the game, was the correct protocol followed or should the misconduct have been reported separately in the referee’s match report?
I look forward to your early reply.
I suggest we all c&p it. Send it with a covering note saying that we saw this on social media and would like to know what response has been offered to it. Send it first to the SFA and to the already overworked Celtic SLO J-P Taylor.
And to FIFA.
Do it all on the same mail,all copied in. I’ve got a good idea whose desk at FIFA it will land on too,so if he ignores it we might get an extra body in this!
They’ve crossed the line,folks. Time to step it up.
Above article by BMCUWP. Usaual rules if you want to stop rants like this-the only way to do it is by sending us articles to print instead. Mail it to Mahe
Can we not crowd fund and send some sort of legal way to do this?
Is there any way that us punters can take this to FIFA.
Is there a precedent for this.
BOBBY, keep ranting away, we must keep this at the top of the agenda, if the bassas can get away with this,,there is no hope left.hh.
NEWRADBHOY, said this the other day about crowdfunding, sadly a lot of celtic supporters just want to play the huns 4 times a season.hh,
Newradbhoy @ 6:20
Sorry but Fifa is just not interested in what happens in this part of the world. In any event, most of them are as corrupt as the cheats inside Hampden Park. The only way to hit them, in the first instance, at least, is to boycott anything to do with the SFA. That means no to the Scottish Cup, no to international football (no real hardship there) and ultimately no to away games in Scotland. The noises coming out of the Supporters Association suggest that an organised boycott may be on the cards. Unless fans are prepared to make these sacrifices the cheating will continue. Personally, I stopped paying into the rigged game in Scotland a good few years ago because I could see what was happening. I won’t be back till the cheats are removed which I suspect means I won’t be back … unless of course enough Celtic fans regain the spirit of 1994 and stand up to them.
MAGS @ 3-24 multiply it 7 times?
It was an ‘Old Firm’ game!
Lost interest at that point.
Pathetic statement and as bad as gesture itself!
Bobby, Remember! Never interrupt your enemy while they are making mistakes! AKA Know your place.
Con @ 8:57 am,
You obviously feel strongly about the “old firm” tag. What makes you think it doesn’t apply?
Surely BMCUWP, was just making the point that the “old firm” circus is alive and well and living in Glasgow.
In fact for me it is more true than 2011, when I thought they were trying to drag us to their level during the aftermath of “the shame game”.
Of course we now know that Celtic PLC are only too keen to surreptitiously stoke this money-go-round.
If you don’t like the tag, fair do’s, don’t use it, I never did, but to deny it’s exisistence now is somewhat flat-earthish imo.
Cracking article Michael.
I think that should be it sorted,Pete. If not,let me know.
Out with ‘some’ of the Celtic support no one gives a rats arse about the oh so obvious rule bending and cheating that Celtic have been subjected to over the years in Scotland. Nothing will change unless those in a position of authority in Celtic decided to act. As we know our current custodians do nothing apart from release weak pointless press releases ‘disappointed, surprised etc. They should be threatening to sue the bejaysus out of the SFA, as Fergus did, as well as proactively countering the BS the SMSM print. This systematic campaign of fake news and making up the rules of the game as you go along is happening because those that could and should do something refuse to do so for reasons known only to them.
Rather than directing our anger at the SFA / UEFA / FIFA , none of who will be interested, wouldn’t it be best focused on those at Celtic who could and should do something to counter this tsunami of propaganda, mistruth and rule bending emanating from the SMSM and the SFA. Couldn’t the disparate Celtic supporters groups meet to discuss some form of mass protest at games in order to force our custodians to act as if they care, as well as having ‘ a pair’.
Sack the board
I don’t think crowdfunding is needed,but FIFA need to be told about this. Sadly,the situation in Scotland has become so toxic that the national UK press won’t touch it with a barge pole. But,imagine a similar event in England? There would be nowhere for anyone involved to hide.
Fair play to the likes of John Hartson and Michael Stewart who are doing their level best to keep it in the mainstream. A damn sight more than our club is doing.
Correct,lads. Amazing how effective a clever wee soundbite can be.
It’s the disparate nature of the various supporters groups which prevents such an event. They could never agree on a venue much less on the agenda up for discussion. So to come out with a jointly agreed plan of action to present to the wider Celtic support is simply a pipedream,a pleasant thought to add to the growing list of bloody frustrations piling up on us.
Bobby, it has worked before – the very reason that we have a Club, an unbroken history and all the trophies in the cabinet belong to us.
‘Shirley’ there must be an individual or group who has the ear of the CSA, CT, GB etc and they could at least ask if there is any desire to act!
Sadly I believe you are probably correct and imo the only thing that ‘may’ awaken the sleeping giant is Celtic passively losing 9IAR.
Speaking of which have we signed Vic yet? 😉
Mahe and I tried to get a few things started around the time of the AGM. Some were keen,others dismissive,others still were totally unresponsive. I would like to see someone taking control of this issue who has the clout to make everyone sit up and pay attention,but I’m not optimistic.
Re Vic? Hmmm…
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS @ 12:12 pm
? – brings back a few memories.
But our putting up with all this crap is making me just a wee bit
More fake news from the SMSN: Alfredo Morelos tipped for shock Barcelona transfer.Alfredo Morelos would be the ideal striker to replace Luis Suarez
After reading the heading you are thinking – ‘Nah – WTF’ but read on a wee bit further and it is all just the BS opinion of someone who once managed Costa Rica & Columbia but not before they mention Steve’ G insists El Donkey is going nowhere – I guess not even if Barca ‘come a callin’. Desperate stuff.
“Steven Gerrard has continually insisted there is no chance Rangers will sell their talisman during the January transfer window.
But former Colombia, Costa Rica, Honduras and current Millonarios manager Pinto reckons his countryman should be heading to the Nou Camp”
Meanwhile a former Celtic car park attendant has tipped Michael Johnston to replace CR7 at Juve when the former Man Utd and Real Madrid player signs for Celtic during the summer window.
Honestly,it’s like those “World’s Biggest Liar” competitions from the old days
Celtic boss Neil Lennon says Ismaila Soro is having his medical & the paperwork is ongoing. Hopeful visa can be finalised & he can fly to Scotland in the next few days
BMCUW- great article, if The Cowards had detailed that in a Press Conference, more of us would support them.
If it did get as far as UEFA, guess who they would ask?
1) The Earth is round
2) Rangers (1872) died in 2012
If you do not see the paradox in writing of the Old Firm existing whilst calling the SFA cheats then there is very little I can do to help clarify just how ludicrous the statement made by the OP is.
I have no problem understanding the stupidity of the Sevco support.
When I see a Celtic supporter come out with such garbage I, genuinely, despair.
Oops! Your comment caused me to doublecheck the article.
The credit for finding the relevant info in the SFA JPP is with SOLKITTS. I knew I would miss the nuances of the language used,but as a former referee he knew what to look for.
SOLKITTS-apologies,big fella. Genuine oversight! The article wouldn’t have been possible without your input.
Con, are you deliberately being obtuse or are you really not seeing the reason for bmcuwp referring to the old firm. Surely he is pointing out the fact that we are more in cahoots with them now then when the phrase was coined. That is his point.
Anyone who thinks that Celtic are not part of the Old Firm and that the Old Firm is just in the business of fucking over stupid bigots for money is well you know…..
This puts the game over bollox to bed
A Thing of Beauty,
If that was the intended meaning, I missed it by a country mile.
Happy to be put right ?
Good stuff con. ?
Trust me-it was! Stick around,you’ll get used to some digs from us at the board and their hangers-on.
Some obtuse,some more subtle-and some that are right in your face,and best left to an expert like MAGS!
Welcome aboard,of course!!!
The “Old Firm” is a charade, a way to fleece both us and them of our money …zero difference!
Now that it’s back, have we forgotten what our role is? We are NOT the people.
Anyone who’s been paying attention will recognise we are now back in “Take it on the chin” territory. We have always had a clearly defined role within the OF.
The custodians of both clubs will be members of the same fraternity ..and I’d bet my life, that is where their allegiance lies. Our money is all that interests them.
We have spent decades moaning about Masonic influence in Scottish football. Does anyone still believe they have influence everywhere except CP?
I can’t continue to finance this and still look myself in the mirror… so for that reason …I’m out!
(I always sit at the front of the bus)
Apparently Jabba was teaching Morelos the Scottish gesture for “nae mare pies. Im stuffed” and its all been a big mistake.
Mags- that is a better explanation, than the game over bollox
Rangers forward Alfredo Morelos has been named as the perfect replacement for injured Barcelona star Luis Suarez – according to Colombia’s greatest ever boss Jorge Luis Pinto.
Must be strong gear,this guy’s on….
March31st 2011 I said….
Nothing is going to happen to Rangers in a permanent death way.
The old firm will survive if the SFA, SPL and the Celtic bored have anything to say about it.
So thats then.
Lets talk about Global warming or house insurance?
Bada I think he would be biting off more than he can chew.
Pretty close to a perfect summary of where we are at.
Great stuff Bobby.
So two fellas find the Sfa have breached their own rule book. Clubs silent on this. Colour me surprised.
This is something tangible you could actually get results with. What a joke.
I’m 95 percent out as far as that team and bent league goes. On record to my partner saying this league will get thrown and Peter falls on sword but in reality runs away laughing with millions and millions.
It’s a scam folks. Sit it out.
I was about to ask. How many baubles did we get promised, in exchange for our silence?
A. 8 league tit!es?
B. 3 trebles?
Anyone who thinks the Old Firm doesn’t exist, will be marginalized to the point of irrelevance (Only a matter of time before you’re called a conspiracy nut) You can scweam and scweam, but it won’t make a lick of difference, our custodians are fully invested.
Remember the basis of Masonry…the brotherhood ALWAYS comes first!
Lawwells salary and bonus….
Help a brother out, eh?
How much to hire your buses, Donald?
Consider it done, brother!
Mags, I put your 2004 figure for PL’s earnings through the Bank of England inflation calculator. That figure of £165,961 equates to £256,726.91 in todays money allowing for inflation at 3% per annum. So his annual salary – minus bonus – is approximately four times as much! ‘Boy done good’, as they say in footballing circles…
I agree with most of what you say, except the PL falling on his sword bit … he’s doing what his boss wants, and fans will not force him out ….
Celic fans complaining about being cheated? That is nothing new … only we do in now online, instead of in the boozer …. complaining about being cheated wont force PL …
I agree that the zombies may very well win the league, and if they do you can bet that Celtic and all its uber-fans will be telling the world that it was because we were cheated, but then you will get the kicker…. ‘now more than ever you have to get behind your team …. by ….. renewing your season ticket, of course!’ and people will buy it hook, line and sinker … cha-ching!
or you will get those who say ‘the Board is corrupt, but that is not the team… I’m never going to stop going’… (which, by extension, means you never want to stop being cheated) …
either way … it will just go on as before….
As I recall, originally, they wanted to stay in the SPL. ,when that wasn’t going to happen, they wanted to go down one division for one season …eventually, they settled on going down to the bottom… which should have guaranteed us three titles, while they put together a team of young hungry players, and resurfaced in good financial position, and without debt ….
but I dont think anyone counted on their level of hubris, and the fact that they couldn’t even cheat properly, and so they overspent on players on the way up, and then messed up promotion from the championship, which handed us another unexpected title ….
but for that, I think they had expected to get back to the SPL and pretty much pick up where they left off …
remember, the profits from winning the SPL itself are not great…. but, european income is the great equalizer … one good run in the EL or the CL, and they are right back in the game…
as before, the margin for error in this strategy is slim, and we saw how it blew up in thier faces… but, they now pretty much ignore the rules and we say nothing, so I suspect that they will push the envelope maybe even farther than in the past, knowing that they can …..
And for anyone who still has doubts about the Celtic board’s collusion in the ‘continuation myth’ and active promotion of the ‘old firm’, have a look at the Celtic FC fixture list. Do you see ‘The Rangers’ anywhere?
I remember a few of us pointing that out the first time it happened – it was an ad for a cup tie, I believe – and being told that, because it was a cup tie, Celtic had no control over the content …
there are none so blind as those who choose not to see.
The Old Firm and what it’s all about ?
The Black Angels ‘Currency’
Currency carry me everyone is held hostage
Currency means nothing
How are they to spend us next
Do you want a stake in us?
How you have a stake in us
One day it’ll all be over
One day it’ll all be gone
MiT …and none so angry as mugs like me who believed what they were told!
To be fair, at the beginning, almost all of us believed that Celtic and PL (I notice no one calls him the SSM, anymore) would do something…. because the alternative was just so inconceivable….
but, as time went by, and nothing was happening, alarm bells started ringing for me…
Maybe as a lawyer, I have a different perspective (we are drilled to think of limitation periods – that is, time periods within which you have to commence proceedings, or you waive your right to do so. and if you fail to do so, it is a BIG DEAL), so the inaction when the 5WA agreement was announced was particularly concerning to me…
and each subsequent event which went by without a response, only increased my belief that something was not right…
no disrespect to Auldheid, but ‘infinite patience’ does not pay rewards in my business; it brings a malpractice claim.
but, then again, maybe as a lawyer, I have just become a cynical old bastard…
or perhaps both…