They need their dads to actually get them involved

Off field affairs ,equally important these days, will take a step back for 90 minutes tonight as the bhoys seek to crack a tough nut, so the gaffer says. Lenny’s statement yesterday that over the years a lot of people have been proved wrong is a nice soundbite and I think aimed at others in the media, but tonight is a great night to start proving them wrong again.

Its an old trick announcing a signing on game day to give everyone a spring in their step, and maybe we will see Soro finally announced today, but I doubt Rugby Park will give two hoots along with the chosen mason in black. They havent won in a staggering 7 games in the league, but had a cup boost win and 6 goals to boot at home there on Saturday.
They may well fancy their chances judging on our own cup performance helped by every trick in the book.

Our own side will either give us more questions or start to answer some that we already have.
Sluggish on the first game back after an extended break was worrying for some and ammo for others. Its something that can be arrested tonight, straight away, and doing so would drain false hope from those who cling to it. A good performance, one that sends signals, is needed.
Away at Killie sounds like the perfect place to start.

Those off field issues just don’t end in the bent never boring land of Scottish football.
Some say social media isn’t the place to gauge opinions as its the haunt of hotheads, which may or may not be true, but gauging from what I can see out there very few are enamoured at all by not only those at the helm of our club but the entire setup around the game these days.
Whether its bent refs, an old issue that seems to have flared up again I wonder why, who have actually broken the laws of the game as we read yesterday,, or even the rags who clearly have an agenda but are on orders from Jabba to help sell a player with any old eye rolling crap.
Weekly it seems we are treated to a big talking point in the game that deserves to be thoroughly looked at, and its soon as bad as each other and a wee kerfuffle, then oops whats that another major drama in the title race and the last transgression is history.

Those tasked with its governance are either biased or incompetent. Or a mixture of both.
But its the national sport and not only our club but the league overall that suffers here as no one will pay good tv rights to a farcical set up that bends rules to suit.
Its in every real football supporters interest, no matter which team, to see a proper set up with rules that will be enforced if necessary. Its so easy to forget why we were drawn to the beautiful game in the first place,, that graceful chip and goal, or a dribble that leaves jaws wide open, mesmerized by these larger than life characters that seemed to tell the ball what to do.
We need to get back to the feeling that the game has a lot to offer us, that its special and deserves to be witnessed. The next generation need heroes to inspire them but more importantly they need their dads to actually get them involved, and every weeks drama is another brick in that wall.
Someone, and I don’t particularly care who as long as they do the job, has got to get the train on the track and running properly or its another crash all over again.
This league is in its last chance saloon. The next big slip might well be its last.
Folk have had enough.
Give us a decent fair game or look at our backs.

The above is by Mahe. You know the drill send any contributions to sentinelcelts@gmail.com and we will publish gladly.

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Big Audio Dynamite
January 22, 2020 5:06 am

4 penalties in the same match for one team, could hardly be described as incompetence.
What we witnessed again @Firhill the other night, is most definitely not incompetence.
And even if it was incompetence, isn’t it a fucking miracle they keep achieving the same results? The favouring of one team!

We really need to get away from calling them incompetent. Even our greatest manager had to address the problem of ref’s by stating .. “Play well enough and the ref won’t matter” what a croc of shit!! Why should we be treated different and just swallow it? It’s cheating, plain and simple.

Not saying there isn’t incompetent refs, there is, but when it comes to Celtic, we all know the script, surely??

Sorry Mahe, just supremely pissed off right now. As I said before, the thought that we are desperate to be part of this swindle (And that’s exactly what this is) makes me want to vomit. I really believed we were different. The realisation that we arent, is proving difficult to take.

Anyhoo, a good read, pal HH

Amazing Echo
January 22, 2020 5:08 am

We haven’t quite strengthened the squad as I would have liked.

Will we find our rhythm tonight? Flowing football? More goals?

Will we be rather sluggish but grind out the result? God forbid, will we drop points?

I suspect it’ll be the ‘grind out’ option. In all honesty, I’d settle for that.

I remain keenly committed to the team, whilst healthily sceptical of our custodians.

Once more into the breach!

Big Audio Dynamite
January 22, 2020 5:21 am

The refs, just like Peter L, are only doing their masters bidding. This whole “Old Firm” charade is much easier to understand, when you realise how long these 2 have been in bed together. How many times did we have joint partnerships? Funny to Think of both supports at each others throats constantly, when the reality is we are both fleeced exactly the same.

Team up to force change? Too far? ?

Big Audio Dynamite
January 22, 2020 5:23 am

Aye, I think you are spot on, BAD ?

Big Audio Dynamite
January 22, 2020 5:26 am

Can’t sleep past 4 in da morning! Which leaves lots of time to think about this pish, which is great! ?

big packy
January 22, 2020 8:01 am

MORNING ALL, mahe, good article as always, to be honest I forgot celtic were playing tonight, and I don’t think im really that bothered, did not think I would ever say that, but im sick of the whole sordid mess.hh.

big packy
January 22, 2020 8:02 am

BIG AUDIO DYNAMITE, great to see you posting, and I hope mike comes back as well, fuck them.hh.

Gordon64
January 22, 2020 8:24 am

It’s not the lie that gets you it’s the cover up. Impeach PL !

Auldheid
January 22, 2020 10:48 am

Mahe

The case for a total clear out of football governance has never been greater, which is the conclusion at the end of this interview with Auldheid by an American blogger.

https://thecelticstar.com/memories-few-26-july-2012-neil-doncaster-emails-the-5-way-agreement-to-celtic-ceo-peter-lawwell/

A long read which is an inherent property of Resolution 12 but hopefully with enough new information in it to keep readers reading.

COSYCORNERBHOY
January 22, 2020 10:55 am

A plan of action is of no use if it cannot be enacted!The problem would be ‘what would unite the support’?The answer many and none.
Take a one match boycott.Which match?Home ones are pointless as club has money already (and don’t tell me it would be a gesture..see plan of action..
Away then.. who is to be the Patsy?Hun? No chance.Killie?They cut our allocation already.Hearts? They could be a contender?.Would it work?Doubt it.The ‘away’ support supports themselves!
So nae boycott then?Nae idea but for me worse than useless because the only ones being damaged are those like me that support Celtic and care not a jot about about boards of any kind.

Auldheid
January 22, 2020 11:16 am

COSYCORNERBHOY

A plan of action is of no use if it cannot be enacted!The problem would be ‘what would unite the support’?The answer many and none.
Take a one match boycott.Which match?Home ones are pointless as club has money already (and don’t tell me it would be a gesture..see plan of action..
Away then.. who is to be the Patsy?Hun? No chance.Killie?They cut our allocation already.Hearts? They could be a contender?.Would it work?Doubt it.The ‘away’ support supports themselves!
So nae boycott then?Nae idea but for me worse than useless because the only ones being damaged are those like me that support Celtic and care not a jot about about boards of any kind.
========================
You set out the reasons why a boycott is difficult to carry out, but supporting Celtic takes many forms and protecting the club from cheating is one of them.

One game should be enough to send out a message that supporters want a say in how their game is run, another idea would be a postponement of ST purchase if SFA do not act before ST renewal to reassure supporters that the game they pay to watch is being fairly governed on and off the park.

Otherwise when the likes of Alan Muir perhaps robs Celtic of a victory, that is what supporters are supporting.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
January 22, 2020 11:39 am

AULDHEID

“Otherwise when the likes of Alan Muir perhaps robs Celtic of a victory, that is what supporters are supporting.”
*
Reminds me of half time in the Scottish Cup semi-final,just after McLean and Muir had somehow contrived to ignore the Meekings hand ball.

As the officials trooped off at half time,one asked-Bloody Hell,Stevie. How do you think you’ll get away with that?

Easy,he replied. Just watch me.

And the rest is history. As you say,if we ignore it when we are being cheated,we can simply expect more of it. I would be in favour of a blanket boycott of away matches and of all home games outwith the league. All cup games for example. And although I’m saying that as a non-ST holder living 400 miles away,I’m certain I would feel the same if I was still living in Kilwinning. I could say that I’m making a start by not attending the Killie game tonight-a traditional family excursion for us-but to be honest,the basterts didn’t give us a ticket.

Mike
January 22, 2020 11:56 am

Auldheid,

A poster on E-Tims suggested lighting up your phone on the twelfth minute for one minute only to draw attention to Resolution Twelve, just like on the 67th minute tribute. I like that idea, it has a passive non bindery feel to it. It doesn’t mean that the Celtic supporter has to sacrifice not supporting the team. If it gathered momentum it could only have a positive effect.

We could publicise it on all the Celtic blogs, perhaps even a printed leaflet enclosed inside the “Not The Celtic View” at all home games, we could perhaps all help with any printing costs. I’m certain that everybody would be more than happy to help.

jimthetim53
January 22, 2020 12:24 pm

Just a big thank you to Mick, Senga and Uber for yesterday. Mick, great company as usual. Senga – a lovely lady. Hope she starts posting. As is my norm nowadays could only last 2 or 3 hours. Uber walked me round to Central Station to make sure I got there OK. How’s that for a man you’ve only just met for the first time? Missed the train of course so got a taxi home! I wont tell you how much it cost. Suffice to say I’ll need to stay in for a few days to recover the outlay. Top class people 🙂

Bada Bing
January 22, 2020 12:47 pm

Terry Jones from Monty Python RIP

Rebus67
January 22, 2020 2:25 pm

I’ll leave the politics of Scottish football to others and throw out some thoughts on more micro issues. Remember the Merseys…All We Ever Get is Sorrow? Well, it seems that all we get is no Soro. Has the club announced that he is a Celtic player subject to a work permit? It seems to be a very protracted transfer. First the transfer fee, next agent’s rights, and now what? Rumours yesterday of interest in Liam Donnelly of Motherwell smells of a Plan B. What we need up front is another Dembele but that sort of signing happens once every thirty years or so. Get another French striker in and keep Eddy happy for another season, but I think we spent the striker budget on Klimala. From what I saw of Tyrese Campbell the other night……avoid…….poor touch and not a battler.

Onwards to this evening and will the Thistle formation get another outing? Will we see three players obstructing each other in central midfield…Ntcham, Brown and Calmac? Will Rogic continue to amaze with his tight footwork until he loses the ball? Will Taylor again be dropped in favour of Bol in own goalie? Will Griff start again?

Will it be a French Farce or a Celtic Crap Shoot? Unbutton your emotions as you prepare to ask, “WHY?”

Rebus

jimthetim53
January 22, 2020 2:34 pm

Rebus, It’s a funny old game. 3 years ago I felt confident every time Celtic went to play a match in Scotland. Even on that excuse for a pitch at Rugby Park. Now? Not so much. Will we ‘turn up’?

Mahe
January 22, 2020 2:36 pm

Morning troops.
Happy hump day.

Auldheid, that’s an interesting article. We discussed it end of last article. Yer man isn’t that far away and I may well cross paths with him at some stage. Seems a character anyways.
As article says many seem very pissed off and just last night was told of three who will walk away totally. I’ll be joining them.
Many will be joining them.
Hail Hail

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
January 22, 2020 2:53 pm

MAHE

How can the malcontents win if everyone walks away? Just had a die-hard on the phone,he is seriously considering chucking the ST-which he has had since pre-Hampden move.

I can’t any longer persuade him to renew,which for years I did whenever I heard of people chucking it. But if there is no-one left to speak out about the way our club is being trashed by all sides including our own,who do you think is going to be the winner?

fan-a-tic
January 22, 2020 3:12 pm

Rebus67
(Will Rogic continue to amaze with his tight footwork until he loses the ball?)

Have been puzzled at the praise he has received for his Thistle performance though his failure to control a good Ed pass led to him losing possession for their defender to graciously set up Griff’s goal.
He had a nice moment in the box in the second with good footwork leading to him shooting a yard wide.
Another of our great midfield deceivers who the less they produce the more praise they receive
The Celtic support are starting to resemble the hun TV commentators in trying to convince themselves that what they wished actually happened..
Are we so desperate for our midfielders to produce that we can’t see the wood for the trees?
Though a proper coach and system would increase the chance of them producing.

a thing of beauty
January 22, 2020 3:17 pm

Oh dear things have got a bit fretful on here. For what it’s worth I’m with CCB and FB. I will not stop
Going to watch celtic. I’ll just dour it our till PL leaves and see if the new man is any improvement. What is for sure that people on this blog and others saying they won’t buy a shirt, ditch celtic tv etc etc will be no more than a drop in the ocean. PL will leave when the ten is decided, one way or the other. I thought he may have been a bit more protective of his legacy but seems not to care that he’ll be the man who lost the ten. Still I suppose £15m could do that to you.
As for tonight let me say right now. Enough fannying about with this league. I wanted two starters, an eat your granny centre half and a centre mid but we’ve not got them. Either way the players we have should beat kilmarnock if the head and the tactics are right. Over to you neil. Stop being so passive and let this team know you care. Time to bring back the thunder.

timhorton
January 22, 2020 3:18 pm

auldheid
s/t sales. i have said for a while now a drop of 10 to 15% will hurt big time.
this will only happen if we lose the league this year. imo

Mahe
January 22, 2020 3:18 pm

Bobby,
The winner?
It’s a lose lose scenario, there are no winners in this particular battle.
The folk who do walk have the little victory of being happy with what they see in the mirror hopefully and knowing they done something.
A small consolation maybe.
The GAA may well end up being the biggest winner here.
Or some wives. The wallet and stress levels might improve.
Hail Hail

MarioB
January 22, 2020 3:20 pm

It is about something is done here in this bloody country. I am totally at the end of ny tether what with Celtic in football and politics in scotland. Everyone moaning what about this/that. It’s about time everyone got together and do something positive whether politics or football. Time for action on both fronts for those interested, unity is required to push forward towards or goal/s. On Celtic the fans need to unite to show their disgust at the way the sport is run in this country. There needs to be a way for fans to show their displeasure. Walk out part way through match say 67th minute. If we don’t do anything we cannot moan. Fed up with all the whingeing in this country just bloody get on with it. I know not everyone wants indy, but those that do stand up and be counted. Come on Celtic Fans stand up and protest on masses against perceived and known injustices.

WHAT YA GONNA DO. keep supporting the bhoys in the glorious hoops foreverl

Mike in Toronto
January 22, 2020 3:49 pm

Probably not the shortest flounce in Celtic blog history, (allthough I must be in the top 5) …but Bada’s post/Auldheid’s interview, has me vexed.

Auldheid

Do you have a copy of the email that was received by Lawwell and Reilly? I had understood that it was sent to ER, but was surprised to read that it was also sent to PL. But, that may be an oversight on my part.

Are you able to post a copy (link to a copy) on here? Also, are you able to tell us how and when you obtained a copy of the email?

Depending on when it was received, I am wondering why PL was not confronted with it when you asked him about the issue at the AGM? Not a criticism… obviously you have much more information than I, but am trying to understand (how this hasn’t come up before, or perhaps,if it did, how I missed it).

Rebus67
January 22, 2020 3:51 pm

JimtheTim and Fanatic,

Thanks for the responses. Nice to know my stuff gets read.

Many on here seem to have descended into the Slough of Despond. Sorry if I contributed to that. Like Bobby and ATOB I shall continue supporting the club….my addiction is too deeply rooted to fix now. I went through my toys out the pram phase after NL was appointed and now I know what I can live with/without.

I believe we had a good enough squad at the beginning of the season to win the league, barring catastrophic injuries. Additions this month should have been targeted at increasing our chances of qualifying for the CL.

The negatives this season sprout from the home defeat to Cluj and the last two performances against Sevco. In all of these cases, the manager set the team up inappropriately. Does this mean the manager is poor? European performances suggest the opposite. So where does this leave us? Neil is the experienced member of the coaching team. Both JK and DD have little experience. NL is an SPL manager who will sometimes get it right and at other times get it wrong. If his mis-steps occur in the wrong games, such as those above, it will go badly wrong. Our superior players may dig us out on these occasions but sometimes they won’t. This is where we are and I do not see it changing. Attempting to buy the league will only paper over the cracks.

The answer does not lie solely in the transfer market.

Rebus

Monti
January 22, 2020 4:23 pm

Well said Mahe, there is a wind of change coming, quite simply we are being lied to & taken for granted, it has to stop.
Resolution 12 is the boards sword…..i want them to fall on it.

Time for a new Celts for change!

HH

Monti
January 22, 2020 4:26 pm

Mike,
Instead of you fiddling in your deep pockets for your phone on the 12th minute, you could just rustle your packet of werthers…..ken?

Auldheid
January 22, 2020 4:34 pm

Mike In Toronto.

I didnt ask the question , did not expect it to be asked and did not expect the answer given.

I knew of existence of e mail but had I challenged the answer how would I have proved the e mail existed to the assembly?

Share out 500 copies or more to attendees?

I was too busy climbing back on to my chair when I heard the response to shout foul.

The first responsibility was to report back to the Res12 2019 signatories on the answers from top table to Res12 which was done but also wait until 2 games v TRFC were out of the way to avoid discontent before those games.

big packy
January 22, 2020 4:47 pm

EVENING ALL, winners and losers we are the losers, forever now will be the thought in our heads our tory freemason board could have killed them off forever, but no the bigot pound was too strong, and regards a boycott, too many celtic supporters want to see us play the huns 4 times,,sad really.hh.

Bada Bing
January 22, 2020 5:14 pm

We are delighted today to announce that midfielder Ismaila Soro has successfully completed a medical ahead of his proposed transfer to #CelticFC.

Bada Bing
January 22, 2020 5:15 pm

Martin Boyle rumour not going away…….

big packy
January 22, 2020 5:17 pm

BADA, have you heard the rumour about griff going to leeds.

Auldheid
January 22, 2020 5:30 pm

ATOB

Whether to stop attending or not is a matter of individual choice, but that is the ultimate way of registering unhappiness at the way the game is run and the part Celtic play in it.

An alternative for loyal match going supporters, on whom non match goers depend, might be a letter to Celtic saying:-

“In spite of the off field negativity surrounding how the game I pay to watch is run by the SFA, I will be renewing my season ticket for next season.

However I would like assurances before then that Celtic are not mis using my loyalty to avoid having to tackle the underlying loss of integrity that came into being in July 2012 when the SPL clubs , of which Celtic are a member club signed up to a secret 5 Way Agreement from which supporters were excluded.

I am not looking for words of assurance, I’m looking for a plan of action from Celtic that I and those who have given up attending and the support at large can get behind to undo the toxic effects of the 2012 agreement made under duress.”

Something on those lines not only honours your and fellow supporters’ choice but sends a message to Celtic loyalty is a two edged sword and brings disaffected supporters together.

Different Class
January 22, 2020 5:32 pm

Bobby are you serious that you would want our fans to boycott all away games and support of the team because of governance issues in the game.The management and players who have delivered 8 titles and a treble treble don’t deserve that.We should be supporting the team now more than ever.A boycott would virtually be giving Rangers the league they would love that,thankfully it’s not going to happen. Get yourself up to Rugby Park tonight and give the Bhoys a cheer.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
January 22, 2020 5:38 pm

DIFFERENTCLASS

Believe me,I’d have been there if we could have got tickets.

Oglach
January 22, 2020 5:42 pm

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS @ 2:53

I am with Mahe on this, ‘to thine own self be true’

We used to console ourselves knowing we were being cheated and lied to but cheated and lied to by an establishment in a country with a distinctly anti Irish Catholic agenda, RFC 1872 being the club of the Scots establishment, and there was little we could do about it. Supporting Celtic, singing the Rebs at games, winning titles was one of the ways we told the Scots establishment to GTF that we would never sit at the back of the bus, it was as Tommy Burns said ‘a people and cause’. How we all celebrated when RFC 1872 died, jelly and ice cream galore, ‘havin’ a party when Rangers die’ the biggest GIRFUY one could ever imagine, our nemesis had committed suicide aided by the very establishment that hates our existence.

However It now seems the joke was on us. It’s only fairly recently that the majority of the rank ‘n’ file Celtic support have been made aware of the ‘allegations’ of collusion between the current custodians of Celtic FC and those who resurrected the rotting corpse of RFC 1872. Sure we had our suspicions – why no comment of Sevco being a new entity for instance. But it is now all unravelling they, the board, were desperate not to lose the bigot pound. Operation save Rangers, at worst has our PLCs finger prints all over it and at best they did absolutely nothing to stop it when they could and should have.
Celtic FC are undoubtedly now one cheek of the same arse. Res 12 – 5WA the evidence is damming. A football club like no other – not any more.

IMO anyone who decides to continue to purchase SB tickets and buy merchandise from the official outlets while this board is still in place is knowingly supporting the continuation myth, the old firm and all the hated and bigotry contained within.

Sometimes you really do need to be able to look at yourself in the mirror.

Again to quote Mahe “It’s a lose lose scenario, there are no winners in this particular battle”

Have we signed Vic yet CSC

Mahe
January 22, 2020 5:42 pm

Auldheid,
“That I and those who have given up attending”
There’s no going back for those who walk. It’s not a fix it and I will return scenario.
Once we know that club is corrupt that’s it.
And now we all know.
Forcing out Peter looks like it will achieve nothing as Junior will get his job and carry out Dermots wishes all the same.
New face same shit.
It’s a profit making venture in a corrupt backwater. Nothing more.
It’s a bogey and D day has arrived.
I’m on the record saying we throw this league and Peter walks as a token.
Breaks my heart but nothing lasts forever and that’s that.
Hail Hail

Oglach
January 22, 2020 5:43 pm

Different Class

It is the current custodians of Celtic that may well give ‘THE’ Rangers the league.

Mahe
January 22, 2020 5:55 pm

Back in a few hours. Childrens book reading class in library now. Mega fun.

Bada Bing
January 22, 2020 6:23 pm

BP- not heard anything about LG

big packy
January 22, 2020 6:41 pm

BADA, was on a clickbait site probably rubbish, when you tell me something, that’s when I believe it?

Oglach
January 22, 2020 7:21 pm

One thing to look forward to the New Star Trek spin off series ‘Picard’ starts on the 24th. Can’t wait as Borg babe Seven of Nine is also returning. Now where did I put the Andrex 😉 🙂 🙂

Immature CSC

SFTB
January 22, 2020 7:23 pm
Senga
January 22, 2020 7:25 pm

Hi BMCUWP, Jim Tim 53 andUber

Thank you Bhoys for a lovely afternoon and ooh err evening,

Canny believe the amount of topics we covered, pure joy being in such company and a privilege too. Jim you and me are going to paint the town our colour of green sooner than later and that’s a definite date ?.

Uber, you may well have been ‘late but so what? You’re a cracker as well, a real pleasure to meet you M but i wish we had more of chance to chat, tardy sod?.

Bobby as ever you mix and match perfectly, I really think you could make packet as a matchmaker, I want to marry all three of you but obviously that’s so wrong on many levels.

Bless the 3 of you and thanks again Bhoys xxx

Oglach
January 22, 2020 7:28 pm

LOL, Kris Ajer is still as tall as Jeremie Frimpong when he is kneeling down.

SFTB
January 22, 2020 7:31 pm

There are gonna be a lot of big 90 minutes over the next 2 months.
Starting tonight

fan-a-tic
January 22, 2020 8:10 pm

All side to side so far.
Again we seem better at denying ourselves space rather than creating any.