Griff-Evil Incarnate!
Morning,all.
The caption competition over on e-Tims the other day had a photograph of Olivier Ntcham standing beside his rather nice Range Rover just after receiving a parking ticket. Actually,considering what he was wearing at the time,it was probably a summons from the Fashion Police,or perhaps some helpful,advice on the location of the nearest optician.
Given the hammering that Leigh Griffiths has been getting since his return from illness and injury,we should be grateful that he wasn’t the perpetrator of this heinous crime. The media would have been calling for the return of the death sentence.
Just when you think you’ve got used to the fevered workings of their imaginations,along comes more. Ten days after wanting Griff banned for throwing a piece of tape towards an adjacent bin liner,they now want him cited for the incident on Sunday which saw him inadvertently stand,while off balance,on an opponent who had a hold of his leg. You couldn’t make this stuff up-well,not unless you had an agenda to follow.
Earlier,we had been treated to the Colombian loose cannon doing a riveting interview for Sky. He,of course,cannot speak English,so we got fed a translation of his words. Or did we? Some are suggesting that is not the case.
https://mobile.twitter.com/TheCelticWiki/status/1224468741888540672
I’m reliably informed that it was riveting stuff,with our favourite little cherub holding a peeled onion to his eye while doing his favoured impressions of Calamero-It’s an injustice,so it is-and Balotelli-Why is it always me?-and explaining to everyone how he comes in peace and loves everyone.
Yes,Alfredo. And the papers are sitting on a lot of information regarding how often,and who with.
But let’s be honest,Morelos is only the latest manifestation of the disease which infects the Scottish media. The real problem is how those with an agenda are allowed to drive their poison into the minds of those who are only too eager to be led by the nose. At the heart of it all is Jim Traynor,a man whose appearance and demeanour are as repugnant as his work practices. A former journalist of some repute,he has repeatedly sold his soul and his morals to anyone with the money to pay for them. Ironic really,since they are now worthless and as tarnished as his reputation.
Don’t take my word for it though. There are still one or two people with a media profile in Scotland who are prepared to tell the truth as they see it while caring little for the opinions of others. Possibly the most forthright in this respect over the last few years has been Michael Stewart,and he lashed into Traynor over some of the press releases recently which have his grubby paws all over them. To the absolute horror of the host Kenny McIntyre,he informed the audience that Traynor was a bully and a dangerous guy who pandered to the lowest common denominator. Well,McIntyre shit himself! He was last heard pleading that Stewart’s views were not the views of the programme and please Jim don’t send those photos to my wife (allegedly,though I might have just made that last bit up!)
McIntyre and Darryll Broadfoot tried manfully to return the show to the main topic of the evening-the prosecution of Leigh Griffiths for drowning six innocents puppies in a sack on the way to the match. Donning the black cap,we even heard from Hamilton manager Brian Rice on the subject,insisting that Griff should have been shown the red card and presumably taken outside and shot. Nice one,Brian. Next time I see an article from you looking for sympathy for your own problems,I’ll save some money on bog roll. Again,Michael Stewart had the balls to call it as he saw it,and that no red card was necessary.
Traynor will be livid,and if I were Stewart I’d be a bit wary. Look out for unflattering reports in the coming weeks-they don’t have to be true,as Traynor has shown over the years. You just have to get people talking about it enough and the mud will stick. Look at Ryan Christie and the charge of brutality against him. See Griff,the evil thug who stamps on opponents and throws projectiles at pensioners. Look at the way Traynor has railroaded the ever-willing members of the media into ignoring the principles of their once-honourable profession. Then look at Jeremie Frimpong,still on the treatment table after being assaulted,and ask yourself just WTF is going on in Scotland.
Admittedly they have had a hard act to follow,but the sports media in Scotland are the new permanent embarrassment and occasional disgrace.
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Shouldn’t Brian Rice be sitting in the house unemployed? Gotta love these cunts, looking to get others punished while stuffing your own skeletons back into the cupboard.
Maybe you should be attempting to fly under the radar right now, Brian …ya f@cking tit!
Oh and, best of luck with your own struggles!
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
I didn’t want to sound overly harsh,but aye.
BAD
Re your NL comment on the last thread:
My son is as big a fan of Neil as you. He’s constantly reminding me of why he’s correct and I’m wrong in my opinion. Last night he sent me a message:
League cup in the bag
7 points clear despite Rangers’ best start
to a season in 20 years
Topped EL group
Europe’s top scorers
9 points better off than last season
Better record in his first 60 games then Brendan
Improved Eddie, Christie and Forrest
The ginger Guardiola- The Lurgan Klopp
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Too clever for his own good. Who does he think he is trying to beat his old man with facts?
I blame his mother ?
TWISTSNTURNS
Of course,there are lies,damned lies-and statistics!
If I’m honest,I think we would all be feeing a lot better about Neil’s reign if the huns hadn’t beaten us in December. As long as that result-and performance!-doesn’t come back to haunt us,I’ll be happy.
“And that James Forrest totally varnished in the second half”
Yeah, I’m sick of him resin my hopes!
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
Ouch.
Twists, like yer lad, it’s mostly his record i’m defending. My question has always been, what exactly do others want, perfection? The man’s record, right now, is brilliant.
Big Billy (A man I really adored) would have bitten your hand off for a record like Neil’s.
If you’ve not already heard it, listen to Michael Stewart re Rangers, Morelos, and in particular, Jim Traynor, on Sportsound last night. In fact I’ll go and try to link the conversation. ( it’s in 3 or 4 short parts)
https://mobile.twitter.com/TamsellicsonIII/status/1224480944578613249?s=08
If there is to be a Celtic boot on Hun necks, the foot I want inside the boot is Neil Lennon’s.
It drives this country to complete distraction ..and that’s good enough for me. 🙂
BAD
Very true!
Despite the reservations many of us have re Neil in respect of tactics, I genuinely believe there’s no man on the earth that we would want to lead us to glory more than Neil Lennon.
His results record continue to impress and that’s how he will be judged. He can’t do much more in that respect.
I’ve reached the point whereby I’m not going to get too wrapped up in team selections and tactics for now. Results are everything. I’ll take a deflection in the last minute of injury time in the last game of the season if it is to win us the title.
Twists, now we are singing from the same hymn sheet 😉 right now, I just want our team to win, how it’s achieved …meh!I
HH
James Forrest: 38 games played, 16 goals scored & an even higher number of assists. ?
Didn’t Neil Lennon take a big hit to his wage packet to come to us from Leicester? And didn’t Brendan, going in the opposite direction, get a massive hike in his?
I know who’s Celtic credentials I prefer.
TWISTSNTURNS
I’m glad that has appeared on twitter. Cos it seems that the BBC have lost it. They normally have the show up as a podcast PDQ,still no sign of it.
I was just reading back on last night when I saw the comment from ATHINGOFBEAUTY re cancelling Sky. My Dad will be delighted-he’ll have to watch the away games in the pub!!!
BOBBY, great article once again, will not comment on that horrible excuse for a man, a complete p—k?
TWISTY, thanks for posting that, well done micheal stewart.?
BIGPACKY
Cheers,mate. Took me over an hour to write that. Turns out I could have c&p the replies in the twitter link to the Michael Stewart Show provided by TWISTSNTURNS!!!
Bobby (Or anyone), could you possibly …again! …run me through the steps to get a video from YouTube (Android tablet) on to here?
It’s driving me crackers! While you are doing it, could you bear in mind I’m about as tech savvy as a 5yo ☺
Bobby
I should’ve read the article first! I was strapped for time this morning. Apologies for that.
BAD
We are definitely in agreement on BR v NL
I’ve conveyed my feelings on his departure ( timing of) before.
Of course I’m not aware of the influence of PL on his untimely departure though I can hazard a fairly accurate guess at it. Regardless of that influential aspect, my beef is the lack of comment when they do leave/are driven out.
Before I get bombarded with replies on the matter, I’m not buying the “ can’t say anything because it’ll affect future employment”
If you’ve been treated unfairly, abysmally supported, lied to , or whatever, speak out.
Compromise agreements have to be agreed. They’re not forced on you. Especially when you have a property portfolio the size of Persimmon Homes and a bank account so full you’ll never want for anything.
With apologies for the length but the subject is topical once more.
In 2010 when Traynor was calling The Famine Song The Ditty Vacant I posted this on Kerrydale St.
Nothing has changed, unless for the worst.
” It is difficult to know where to start on James Traynor’s article in The Daily Record on 22 September. After you read it you either conclude that he has not read all the words in what he calls the “Ditty Vacant” or if he has read them has made one of two choices, but in none of the various possibilities does he come out with any credit whatsoever either professionally or personally
The most charitable conclusion is that he has not read all the words in which case only his professional competency comes into question, how can he possibly comment on a ditty that he has failed to examine in totality?
Or
Less charitably he has read them but what he has written raises questions about the personal character, integrity and judgement of a man who fails to see anything wrong with charges of pedophilia against a large group in Scottish society hailing from a particular country as well as one of footballs greatest managers, now deceased, and then still thinks it acceptable to tell them to go away because they do not see things as he does.
Or
He does deplore the words but in the interest of creating controversy and selling newspapers he chooses to bury his personal principles.
In the case of the first two his suitability for purpose as a responsible journalist comes into question on grounds of lack of professionalism or poverty of character. In the case of the third one cannot question his suitability for purpose, it does sell papers, but we can condemn his lack of ethics.
On the article itself he makes a number of unbalanced, unproven or untrue statements, all of which suggest lack of professionalism/judgement at best or malice at worst.
Lack of Balance
He dresses up his main argument that preventing this song being sung represents an attack on free speech, but totally fails to say that the right to free speech comes with associated responsibilities to use that freedom wisely. Since he has not shown any signs of such responsibility or wisdom in his article, it would have been a miracle had this counter point entered his head, because if it had and had he been a man of integrity, his article would have been still born.
His argument that Celtic fans are wrong to take offence at TFS might have more weight if we thought the person making it had pursued a similar argument with those Ranger’s supporters who were offended by Boruc blessing himself or even his one fingered salute at their abuse. I cannot recollect any argument put forward by Traynor presented with quite the same vigour as the TFS one. Happy to be corrected on this point but my recollection is that Boruc was the focus as the offender not the Ranger’s support for being offended. Does white man speak with forked tongue?
Lack of Judgement.
Traynor cites a number of present day issues that should disgust us more than the chorus of the Famine Song and if it were only the chorus, there is an argument that the present day issues are as, if not more, important. But it’s not the chorus that offends; it is the song in its entirety. If he thinks that unfounded charges of complicity with pedophilia against an individual or suggesting that an identifiable group in society with its roots in another country indulge in pedophilia as a matter of course is not as present day as any of the other issues, then for a journalist he is not very current.
(Interestingly on what gives offence I heard a Rangers supporter on Clyde on Tuesday night phone in to object at being classified as racist because of the singing of TFS. My thinking was I can understand what you are saying, but how would you feel about being called a pedophile? Would that not offend you just as much if not more? I would also tell that supporter that I was not calling him a racist but that is a judgement of society that has been attached to him by what people are singing in his name. At least my objections are not the result of actions done in my name, but false accusations made by others against me. We are not calling Ranger’s supporters racist, that is a consequence of what they sing and until they take responsibility for those consequences they are bound to endure them. That man’s objections were aimed at the wrong folk and if I can put myself in his shoes to understand his anger, why can he not put himself in mine?)
Missing The Point
Traynor says ” if any politician even attempts to tell Rangers fans to drop it we”ll be entering into dangerous times”.
A bit of news Jim, politicians said this a couple of years ago when McConnells anti sectarian policy was adopted. All that is lacking is The Police/SFA/SPL implementing the consequences of that policy by saying “we warned you again and again, now we are going to make arrests/deduct points.” The fact that Ranger’s fans are clearly in breach of rules (whether they make sense or not) is something being overlooked in the murky stoor kicked by arguments such as Traynor’s.
Lack of Intellectual Discernment.
Again missing the point, he suggests that banning the singing of TFS would be an imposition of one set of will over anothers. If it were the will of the others that singing this song is ok, it would not have fallen foul of a law that everyone on a democratic society wished into being. Singing TFS is the opposite of what Traynor argues, the will of the majority has been and is being flaunted whilst this song continues to be sung. To infer that stopping TFS is akin to say something like imposing Sharia law on UK law is bad enough, but to fail to understand that it is UK law that the song challenges in the first place suggests lack of intellectual discernment on his part.
A Man Sees What He Wants to See
Like Martin Bain he draws his attention to what Celtic fans dare do. Our occupying the high moral ground appears to annoy him. He has seen no denunciation of the Novo song or has seen disgusting and horrible chat on (Celtic) fans message boards. He must be looking in the places where he finds what he wants to find. I have seen the Novo and BOTOB denounced lots of times and I have read more enlightened and civil exchanges of views on message boards than I have in the printed press. (I have however not visited Follow Follow.) We do speak from a higher moral ground because we aspire to occupy it. If that is a fault, it is one I gladly hope we continue to aspire to.
We should have been alarmed at the Novo threats he says. We were Jim, we were because we knew from what actually happened to Neil Lennon that such threats if carried out could lead to death. If we appear to Mr Traynor or others to occupy the high moral ground that perspective can come from looking up from lower ground as well as looking down.
Finally the end piece about going to find a better place to live if you do not like where you are is what one would expect to hear from the very folk Traynor is trying to defend. Surprising that eh?
Well Mr Traynor, we got news for you and your ilk, we ain’t going anywhere we’re staying to drag you lot kicking and screaming up to the higher moral (but still imperfect) ground that we occupy.
That is what makes the difference between us and those singers of TFS that think their song is anything other than what it is to anyone occupying the higher ground.
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
I’ll mail you,mate. It depends on your device.
Bobby, you’re a diamond ?
Auldheid
I didn’t have the privilege of reading this first time round but it addresses the issue succinctly. You would have hoped it would have been read, understood and given pause for thought…but then you would have been gravely mistaken. Unfortunately it’s as relevant now as the day you wrote it. What a sad little country we live in.
Twists, totally agree. I don’t think we will ever get the truth about Brendan’s departure. And anyway, his life-long love for Celtic, seemed about as genuine as his sun tan or teeth ?
The board could do themselves a massive favour by being more open & transparent with us, but I fear there’s a raft of reasons why they arent . For those reasons, I almost walked for good in December, but I just cannot bring myself to turn my back on the team…so, I’m all in for the 10!
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
Just remembered my works phone is Android. So…
Play the video onscreen,and in the top right hand corner there are three BLACK dots. Click on them,it will bring up a menu. Click on “Copy link”
Then go back onto SC and in the comments box,hold your finger down until “Paste” appears. Click on Paste,and hopefully you are good to go.
Has Michael Stewart been banned from Poundland yet?
Bobby ?
BADABING
A few years back,my cousin was going out with a lass who was a manager for Poundland. Probably still is. Anyway,I said that it must be great working in a shop where you don’t have to worry about shoplifters.
Wrong again. Place is a magnet for them.
https://youtu.be/HFWKJ2FUiAQ
Cheers, Bobby! Hope my musical taste doesn’t make you regret helping ?
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
First time that phone’s been any use to me. I switch it off when I’m not at work so that work can’t contact me. And of course,when I’m working they are all asleep. Great system.
Oh,good choice…
Bobby, Haha brilliant. What night is music night? ?
AULDHEID
That’s an excellent piece. That it has stood the test of time is testament to the lowlife behaviour of Traynor before and since. He really is a truly obnoxious piece of work,which is strange because he wasn’t always like that.
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
Friday seems to be the choice. We might even see a new poster popping in from the New York area for that,perhaps with a wee Rolling Stones number.
Hint,hint…
Don’t shoot the messenger.
In the 7pm race at Kempton Ed Walker fancies Brigham Young ( 4/1)
HOWEVER
In the same race Mark Usher thinks his horse Apex King will go very close.
In the 7-30 Ed Walker likes the chances of his 7/4 shot Starfighter.
Take em or leave em’.
Bobby, I’m intrigued. 🙂 Having been born in Montreal, NY is a place I never tire of visiting. Looking forward to Friday ?
JOHNJAMESSITE giving Traynor a good thrashing too.
https://johnjamessite.com/2020/02/04/james-sexton-traynor/
https://youtu.be/FBUe_v6Mi70
https://youtu.be/CpGsX1h0gR4
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
No biggy,and I hope he won’t mind me saying that! An old acquaintance from CQN. Been lurking,so hopefully the music will get his fingers tapping as much as his feet!
Bobby, can’t have too many good guys. Credit to you & Mahe, the site appears to be doing really well. Personally, it’s the only place on the net I say a word ?
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
TYVM for the Joy Division clip! Ah,memories…
I was about fourteen when I first heard them,and immediately concreted my uncool kid reputation by bigging them up. My taste in music was universally derided,but time has proven me to be a visionary(!)
Still canny get a coupon up,mind.
I think we now know why Ian Curtis topped himself. Some bastert slagged off his Mr Bean dancing. Christ,it’s even worse than mine.
https://twitter.com/GrahamSpiers/status/1224642396958400519?s=08
Bobby, you don’t want to hear my thoughts on Ian’s demise, you & i would have to spend another day down conspiracy road ?
https://twitter.com/MikeMeehallWood/status/1224632703011688448?s=08
This is so delusional, it’s scary….
BIGAUDIODYNAMITE
Thanks,mate. Really appreciated. To be honest,it’s taken off a lot better than we anticipated. We really just did it because we knew that we couldn’t change the known-which was CQN where we used to post-so decided to try the unknown-this.
So unknown to us was it that we had to ask for help to set it up. And when I say help,there was none from us two clueless basterts!
So the thanks really belong to The Good Guys who know who they are,plus people like yourself who have pushed it along. Mahe and I will just keep taking the advertising money.
I was kidding about the last bit,before UBER jumps on a train to Swindon to strangle me. Mahe and I don’t necessarily agree on everything,but advertising is out. Permanently.
HH
BADABING
Hmmmm…
I see The Athletic has gone paywall. That’ll be me going AWOL from it then.
Bobby, you 2 deserve all the praise that will come your way. I lurked on CQN from the beginning, but I never got round to registering. I feel I’m more in line with the thinking on here anyway?
Your stance on advertising on the site is very admirable, mate. I know it’s a massive talking point, over on CQN …shame, it used to be essential reading.