50 years ago today !


Fifty years ago today was,to a lot of people,the day that they realised that The Swinging Sixties really were over. Don McLean wrote and recorded American Pie only a year later,and though it has always been about the plane crash a decade earlier that killed Richie Valens,The Big Bopper and Buddy Holly,and referred to that as being the end of times for those growing to adulthood in the Fifties,I’m pretty sure that the symbolism of the end of the decade each time wasn’t lost on him.

The Beatles had split up!


Well,it was actually Yesterday. I couldn’t resist that,saves JIMMYNOTPAUL pointing it out to me.


Sure,there were many other symbols of The Sixties,many other icons. George Best,for one! The Mini was a Fifties launch,late 1959 in fact,but it became cool in The Sixties. Everyone had one,they were chic and cheap. And after The Italian Job,ubercool too!


There was the mini-skirt,the summer of love and all the tune in turn on drop out that went with it. Woodstock,civil rights,Kennedy. The moon landings. Vietnam and,oh,you name it.


And The Beatles. The band that brought the world so much. Including Oasis,when you think about it! Would The Sixties have been the same without them? Well,ask most people between say,40-80 years old for five things about the Sixties,and I reckon about 90% of them will mention them in their top five.


I was only six years old when the Sixties came to an end,hardly knew what day of the week it was much less which decade. And looking back on it,there are a good few artists from then in my record collection.


Top three being Dylan,The Rolling Stones and The Doors. The Beatles,not so much. In fact,not a single LP so that says a lot. And why? Well,I won’t go into detail,but…


The Doors burned ferociously,like a shooting star crashing to its oblivion. The Stones strutted their stuff for the latter half of the decade and beyond-into parody,eventually!-like the wide boys who knew how good they were,and didn’t care who else knew it.


And Dylan? Turned the world on its head,forced it to look at itself,and recently won a Nobel Prize anaw. Plus he is the current US No1 and gave us one of the best Christmas singles,after The Pogues and Greg Lake. Not that I’m damning him with faint praise.


Yet The Beatles would be in most of those top fives,and deservedly so. Because at the time,they DEFINED The Sixties as much as the other things I mentioned earlier. I suppose you had to be there-and if you can remember it,you apparently weren’t!


They defined a whole ten years in less than ten hours of original released albums. Yep. Add up the running times. And most of them haven’t lasted the test of time either. In fact,I would only give pass marks to Rubber Soul,Revolver,Sgt Pepper,The White Album and Abbey Road.


Bit those albums don’t just pass. They are amazing! There are some legendary tracks on there,and still getting played widely on Classic and AM radio today. It’s why the rights to their songs are worth so much. It’s hardly an exclusive list-feel free to add your own,of course-but A Day In The Life,Come Together,Something,Because,oh you name it.


They’d just released Abbey Road too,so the fans must have thought that things were back on the up. What a boot in the baws,fifty years ago today. And so we went,from the heady optimism of The Sixties to the unknown future of The Seventies and Eighties. A future we would rather forget.


Maybe it wasn’t The Day The Music Died. Maybe it was the day that,in retrospect,we realised-that boot in the baws was gonna last a bloody long time.


Above article by BMCUWP. Usual rules,please send us your thoughts for Article of the Day. Mail Mahe


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Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 5:21 am

Morning Bobby
Good read.

I loved the 60’s music. Still do. Personally I enjoyed the 70’s more. There is a very simple reason for that in my opinion . In 1970 I’d be 12. So my teen years were 71 to 78. Happiest days of my life. From I was a toddler until I was 20, no responsibilities. Having the time of my life with great pals in a great place to grow up, and going back to the warmth of a loving mother and home in the evenings, or, as I hit 16/17, going back in the early hours of the morning, if going back at all. I was having a blast. Disco Thu to Mon inclusive, with work filling in the gaps .
When you’re having such a good time, the music of that era is embedded.

The 80’s come along. I get married and by 82 I’ve got twins. By 87 I’ve got 4 kids, a house, and a car, and mounting pressures. Work not paying enough, my social life diminishing. Was the quality of the music in the 70’s, as good as the 60’s? Nowhere near it, but that’s a comment made in retrospect.
Still some marvellous stuff from the 70’s on my playlist, but the whole glam rock thing , meant more me to me at the time due to what else was going on in my life.

Later? Not so much other than the fact certain song brings back so many happy memories.

Very few songs of the 80’s evoke the same feelings. By 1984 I was Malaysia and Japan embarking on a new career and still trying to keep the wolf from the door. The music? I didn’t have the same amount of time to enjoy it.

I guess many will feel the same way.

To be honest it’s been the same ever since those 80’s days. Always to busy it seems for music, or a social life anywhere remotely close to the 70’s.

Shame really I guess, but that’ll be the same for an awful lot of people. Nobody forces the choices . I chose to “ grow up” and do the traditional marriage and kids thing. Would I change it ? No. 6 grandkids later they provide the ‘music’ in my life now. Love them every bit as much as my own children. They’ve a lot to answer for though ?

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:23 am

Brings back so many memories thanks to BMCUWP .The last couple of days the writing has been of the charts ,

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:24 am
Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:34 am

Twists .. dearie me so true

Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 5:36 am


Maybe about 2 years ago I asked one of kids to drop me off in Glasgow. Picks me up, and we set out on a 35-40 min journey.

He’s got his music playing in the car. What was it? Fekk knows but all I can hear is a continuous “ boom boom boom “ background.

We must’ve been driving for 25 minutes and I said to him

“ ffs how long does this track last??”

He says “ eh, what do you mean?”

How long does this last? One track in my day was 3 to 4 mins. This shite has been on half an hour??

He says “ there’s been 4 or 5 tracks on that album played since I picked you up”

Honestly, I would’ve bet money it was the same track!!

Grumpy auld fekker dot com ?

Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 5:38 am

Could you hear the Hovis advert playing in the background as you read my post? ?

When I twer a lad……

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:46 am

No but you said a couple of things that I had sayed last week , being of the age of 12 to 19 I was living in Glasgow had a paper run then a job at 16 so lots of cash no bills playing ice hockey with an amazing community and the famous Glasgow Celtic …what a time no mortgage no bills no sweat .Right

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:54 am

MC AFGHAN in the hoos with Wuruld Famous
DJ McCaff rolling + diving out the choons 3AM
Free to season ticket holders .. only .

Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 5:55 am

I delivered the papers in the morning in the village I lived in, and stayed on the school bus along to the town to deliver in the evening. Had a milk run for a while too. I also used to go to the local coal merchants and bag the “ pre packs” of coal. A penny a bag the miserable sod paid me. Weigh the coal, pour it in the bag, staple the bag and stack it on the shelves in his storage shed. Anytime I needed an extra couple of Bob, I’d go and bag some coal. Done that from 10 year old or so for a good few years.

I’d a big advantage in respect of getting cash. My dad had 14 brothers and sisters. Most of them still lived in the village. I’d go to my aunts and uncles houses. “ Any ginger bottles or beer bottles?”

The shop ( owned by my aunt and uncle) and the pub would give me the returns on the bottles.

Even if my aunts had no bottles, they’d say “ oh I’ve none son but hold on” and gimme some money anywAy. ?

If I hung around the pub door, there was always one or two of my uncles going in or coming out. “ here son”, and gimme some cash.

Happy days…

Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 5:58 am

…. and of course the tattie picking in October was another good money spinner….especially with so many farms surrounding a very small village

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 5:59 am

Same here twists I was turning over cash with lots of jobs ..probably making as much as my dad that was running a home ..

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:00 am

Twists I used to make money delivering spuds as well forgot about that .

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:08 am

If you cany fickin cut a rug dont show up .

April 10, 2020 6:34 am


As I said last night,apparently people stop listening to new music at around 33yo. It hadn’t occurred to me that it was because they had other things more important going on!

April 10, 2020 6:35 am


Cut a rug? I’m sure McCAFF can do that,I’ll send him over. A dab hand wi flooring of any kind,that fella.

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:40 am

BMCUW .. never thought of that Hehehe

April 10, 2020 6:44 am

Btw,this being unable to get in to admin is a pain. Been about ten days now,I’ll sort it over the weekend,wi any luck.

I have to write the articles in advance,mail them to Mahe to c&p into the article. Not as straightforward as it sounds,as it doesn’t format properly. I wrote this one yesterday morning when I finished work.

The title should have been “It was fifty years ago today-or,the day the music died.”

But the howler was,that having written it,I turned to my daily digest of news. Mainly Bloomberg,The Daily Record,New York Times,and of course The Guardian.

So when I saw this yesterday


I was horrified! But I’ve got form for screwing up the dates,despite having three Celtic calendars on my walls. So I just put in the line about Yesterday and left it. Worthwhile topic for a Friday,I reckon,as we love our music on here.

I’ve just done tomorrow’s article,which took ages. One I HAD to get just right. It’s not time sensitive,so it might get pulled depending on the SPFL decision later.

April 10, 2020 6:46 am


You,he,ASWGL and AFGHANMELON have now established a nightshift. Apart from being a brilliant read back,it helps with the time difference,and keeps the likes of MIKEINTORONTO and MAHE from talking to themselves(!)

Take a bow,y’all.

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:49 am

Your a superstar Bobby .. so many amazing Tim’s on this site and i enjoy a read every night .

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:52 am

I know is the Maryhill influence that is above and beyond all humans , just ask wee Bertie

Twists n Turns
April 10, 2020 6:53 am

Quality indeed Bobby

Glad yer back btw. It was akin to Celtic losing Henk. I mean we get by, but it’s never quite the same.

Anyhow, off shopping for a few things for ourselves and a list the length of yer arm for my relatives!


April 10, 2020 6:54 am


Not at all,mucker.

The credit is to Mahe for the idea and the perseverance in pushing it. And to the people who put in the yards for us-at very short notice-to do the hard techie stuff. Every one of them a diamond,and they know who they are. And to everyone since who has joined in to make it a success.

April 10, 2020 6:56 am


Did that yesterday. Three supermarkets,queued around the block. I’ll try it again tomorrow,I’ll have more time.

Good luck!

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 6:57 am

The London lawyer and mahe talk pure pish all the time glad you noticed .

Puff puff
April 10, 2020 7:01 am

Got to sleep bhoys , god bless the night shift .

April 10, 2020 7:02 am


Careful! That lawyer probably knows more criminals than I do!

April 10, 2020 7:35 am

May you all have a blessed Good Friday.

We could do with a saviour now,for sure.


April 10, 2020 7:42 am

Scarier still.


If you don’t know who Paul Krugman is,and why he is so highly respected,Google him. Then read what he has written,above.

April 10, 2020 8:03 am

Morning all and particularly BMCUWP

Good to see you back BMCUWP with a great article…I’m glad I bypassed the said article in the Guardian yesterday or there may have been accusations of plagiarism!!

Mike In TVLawyerland
After last night’s tete a tete my disturbed sleep included a dream scene not akin to this classic. With a role reversal seeing a youthful looking McCaff played by an even more youthful looking Tom Cruise and a crotchety old Mike TV Lawyer played by a crotchety old Jack Nicholson….sit back and enjoy… 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂 🙂

April 10, 2020 8:03 am

If you delete this as well, then you’ve definitely got the fear!
No space ships, no 5G, no excuse.
? https://youtu.be/XR-yuhZzYlA

April 10, 2020 8:13 am

A perfect summary of Life after Mortgage methinks! I moved from Glasgow to Edinburgh in the late 80s through a job promotion but was ill-prepared for the move. A few months later the interest rates started to creep and didn’t stop creeping until 16.25%! There will be a lot of you guys on here remember the times clearly. When your cash is used on essentials like that there’s not necessarily enough left for little luxuries like music…certainly that’s the case for me. So having built up a great vinyl collection in the 80s the 90s was a bit of a lost decade for me in terms of collecting. I’m still catching up in terms of discovering bands that were about then!

Cosy Corner Bhoy
April 10, 2020 8:26 am

BMCUWP:I could have flown to New York in the time it took me to get it!
Welcome articles !?

April 10, 2020 8:37 am

Greaf piece BMCUWPs…

I know it’s a compilation, so maybe cheating a bit, but I was thinking of the Beatles and listening as a boy to the 67-70 Album, what a masterpiece.

Mahe @ 1:02 am,

Thank you, and what a great forum you and BMCUWPs have created, it seems to me that fholk can really express themselves here.

My observation on Irish Republicanism was obviously not a sleight on anybody. It was just a fact that where I came from you had the Scots Irish and the Irish Scots. Both my parents families were Scots Irish.

My love for Celtic blossomed in the sixties, it was before the troubles re-ignited, yet thanks to School mates and good fholk like my uncle John (definitely Irish Scots), I was aware of Celtic’s Irish connections and could hold a tune;)

My point was really that for all that unites us as Celtic supporters, although our paths and beliefs can be quite different, is that we know, in our own way, what makes a true Celt.

Some time ago I had the good fortune to help with a project in Dublin, it was for An Post and the Dublin branch of our consultancy firm didn’t have my particular expertise, which was needed for this particular project.

Anyway, our client, the ghuy from An Post was from Belfast and my colleagues were middle class Dubliners, it was quite an eye opener.

We had to go round and vet potential technology partners, which meant the mhan from An Post getting a taxi and us going round town each day. We had a great craic, we spent more time going around Dublin “landmarks” than we did seeing vendors:))))

It is incredible what influence the GAA hold in the province, I read recently that during the initial confusion over Covid-19, with the Irish and British advice being quite different, the nationalist community looked at the GAA for leadership in what to do in the crisis.

The fact that Ulster is a hotbed of Celtic support is truly great not just for personal reasons (my ancestors are from Ulster) but it cements Br. Walfred’s dream… the reason why he called the club “Celtic”. You don’t have to be a pict or a gael or brythonic or any other Celt to support the team. But for me, supporting the true ethos of those great peoples is a must.

Fan-a-tic @ 0 1:06 am,

Ain’t that the truth…

MiT @ 1:25 am,

There is no doubt you called it right, I can distinctly remember. I often thought why is an obviously, very sharp lawyer so out of touch, our opinions rarely met.

Yet it was your knowledge and experience that gave you insight. I’m not just saying this out of hindsight but your comments often had me thinking.

You may feel I harangued you somewhat in those days but it was just to get to the bottom of things, I had the old cognitive disonance doing overtime… if you were right, and you seemed to know what you were talking about, it meant that all the “players”, including Celtic had to be in on it… a concept that my mind could just not hold.

By the time we were looking at crowd funding a challenge we had been stiched up in so many ways our ass was infact at our elbow…

Pity… I’ll enjoy the sequel though, knowing not to check out the white hats and the black hats and looking for the twist at the end.

Hail Hail

big packy
April 10, 2020 8:39 am

MORNING ALL and jim bobby great article as usual, nice to see you back, I was about 11 when the beatles were at their peak, was not really my cup of tea, probably too young to appreciate them to be honest, my big cousin peter had a radiogramme remember them, and I used to go to his house and listen, while he played cliff and the shadows, buddy holly, the everly brothers and del Shannon, never dreaming that a dozen or so years later, id be playing drums with him in a club in Liverpool, ach memories HH

April 10, 2020 8:42 am

Morning Big Jim Packy
How’s things today? I’m working today so you’ll have peace until this evening…make the most of it! 🙂

April 10, 2020 8:43 am

Morning all.
Good to see you back with a lead article, BMCUW.
I love music, I’ve always had an eclectic taste and my 10 y.o. makes sure I listen to what’s happening now.
A bit like a few of you, I had a big paper round, spent all my money on records and Celtic.
I then started working as an apprentice in the shipyards,what a boot in the balls when I received my first wage, less than what I was earning from my paper round and on top of that dig money and bus fares. ?
New wave music, would have been the mood music of that time.

April 10, 2020 8:47 am

https://johnjamessite.com Sour Grapes & Sore Losers

big packy
April 10, 2020 8:48 am

morning mcaff, how are you today, im laying a floor doon the broomielaw can you give me a lift please?

April 10, 2020 8:51 am

Big Jim Packy
I’ll pop in on the way to work and give you a few pointers but too busy to do it for you!! Is Wee Joan or Big Babs no available to give you a hand? 🙂 🙂

big packy
April 10, 2020 8:53 am

MCAFF, ill go and ask them???

big packy
April 10, 2020 8:55 am

just had bacon on toast forgot this was good friday

April 10, 2020 9:03 am

Big Jim Packy
You’ll go to the Bad Fire?
You better say an Act of Contrition, an Our Father and five Hail Marys!!
Off to work, enjoy your day, everyone!!!

big packy
April 10, 2020 9:05 am

when I was at primary school, the local priest would come in and take catechism, his name was father o hare, I remember asking him father why do we call it good Friday, because it was good for us he said, that has always stuck in my mind, another useless piece of information for you?

big packy
April 10, 2020 9:06 am

MCAFF, im on it now?

April 10, 2020 9:11 am

big packy
April 10, 2020 9:21 am

PARTIZAN, nice vid had not heard that before?

big packy
April 10, 2020 9:24 am

JIM,are you lurking?

April 10, 2020 9:30 am

B.P. That will be you after you eating bacon. ?

Bada Bing
April 10, 2020 9:35 am

Good to see Bobby leading from the front again.

big packy
April 10, 2020 9:36 am


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