Having Fun With A Hun

Morning,all. 

A week ago today,it was Good Friday and we were looking forward to the the results of the SPFL vote to wind up the lower leagues for the season,based upon current standings and games played. Of course,we knew that whatever was decided that day,our own championship wouldn’t be-though that would have made it a Great Friday! But despite the attempt by the SPFL to push through a decision as quickly as possible,one club decided to drag its feet and have its one hundred hours or so in the spotlight. 

Dundee’s prevarication hasn’t made them any friends at all,but has probably cost them a few. Board chairmen the length and breadth of the country will have had one or two sleepless nights about the possibility of their club going to the wall before a life-saving £50k on average magically appeared against their overdraft. The fact that they finally decided to vote in favour has made them a few enemies too-those clubs which will be relegated as a result will take a long time to forgive and forget. And one club in particular-which isn’t even in one of the divisions affected by all this-has thrown its toys out of the pram in spectacular style,demanding this,threatening that,and behaving generally like a spoilt seven year old brat. 

While most of us think that a form of temporary League reconstruction will take place and prevent those relegations,the fact that responsibility for this has been handed to Ann Budge of Hearts and Les Gray at Hamilton should give them pause for thought. Neither has showered themselves in glory in recent years. One thought she could build a new stand without having to order any seats,while the other one thought that sending a cheque for the thick end of a million quid to a scammer was a good idea. It’s hardly a Brains Trust that we are talking about here,and the fact that they are considered to be just that is,frankly,frightening. 

But back to the destination of this season’s title. I think that much will rest on the decision to be taken next week by UEFA on the subject. And countries like Germany,which has already announced that they plan to resume playing in three weeks time,probably hasn’t helped them here. There are some countries too in the federation whose season had really only begun before the shutdown,such as the northern Scandinavian countries,while the likes of the Republic of Ireland play their matches in the summer. These are all added complications,as is the suggestion that UEFA still plan to have their remaining Champions League and Europa League ties played to a finish by the end of August. 

Those complications,however,could also be seen as an opportunity. From that,it is safe to assume that UEFA don’t envisage playing the qualifiers for next season’s trophies until after the current one is completed. And I’ll come back to that in a minute. Meanwhile,I would like to think that UEFA will announce that any national league competition which hasn’t already announced a firm date for a return to action AND cannot guarantee to wrap up their domestic campaign by June 30 or by its scheduled completion date must be declared as over. And that final placings are decided on an extrapolated points per game basis,assuming that individual leagues have completed an arbitrarily-decided percentage of games. My thoughts would be for that figure to be 70%,based on how far advanced most leagues were into their season,and that UEFA will want to as far as possible avoid the complications of null and void,and the legal challenges from the paymasters of the game-namely,sponsors and TV companies. 

Additionally,they will decree that this is a UEFA directive and is not at the discretion of individual associations. This will avoid the possibility of any unhappy clubs taking their association to court. Everyone knows what happens to clubs who take UEFA to court. It does not end well for them. Ask Syon. 

Now,the thing is that I very much doubt that UEFA will make any decision at all next week on those national cup competitions which are still to be decided. It would be rather difficult to declare a winner for these after all,and additionally they are seemingly intent on completing the remaining ties in their own flagship competitions. As I don’t foresee any European qualifiers before the start of September,this opens the door to the SFA-who have been curiously silent throughout all of this-to schedule the semi finals for the second Tuesday/Wednesday in August,with the final to be played on August 29 or 30. Told you I’d come back to that,didn’t I? And it ties in rather nicely with the title of the article too. Having fun with a hun. Also known as fucking with their heads,because trust me-if the SFA announce that they intend to play the Scottish Cup to a finish in the same way as UEFA have set their own precedent,it will put our Quadruple Treble back into play. And the huns will be bloody furious about it!

So watch them tie themselves in knots over this one. How the hell can they possibly kick up about a competition that they aren’t even involved in,and which is being rescheduled for a time that football is back in action? How can they do that and still retain any credibility? Because you can be absolutely one hundred per cent guaranteed certain that they will be releasing statements and issuing threats about all of this,like confetti raining down on a bride. 

Meantime,in this one they aren’t even the bridesmaids. They’re the antisocial neighbours who didn’t get an invitation and are hell bent on ruining it for everyone else. That doesn’t usually end well either!!!
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BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 6:21 am

AULDHEID pulling another all-nighter. Dunno where he gets the stamina,you know. I remember saying on CQN a couple of years ago that PL may regret abusing his trust and making an enemy of AULDHEID. Frankly,most people there thought I was barking,that there would only be one winner. I wonder if they still think that?

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Auldheid
From CQN as matter was raised

AULDHEID on 17TH APRIL 2020 1:53 AM
GLENDALYSTONSILS on 16TH APRIL 2020 2:24 PM

Re my earlier post on the asterisk . I don’t object to our ninth title being asterisked per se , rather it’s the principle of the huns cheating titles appearing as honest wins.

Their titles should of course be stripped , but failing that , perhaps a double asterisk to denote that our asterisk and theirs mean quite different things.

That will never happen , destined for the history books like resolution 12.
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The history of Res12 is not over. There is still a chapter to be added that sets out deception of the Celtic support on BOTH the UEFA Licence 2011 and LNS by the Celtic Board, making use of Board leaning bloggers, either knowingly or unknowingly, to create the impression of unhappiness with both the SFA and then SPL.

That deception reached its latest high point at the last AGM with denial of seeing the 5 Way Agreement.

There is another reveal all evidence backed resolution drafted with support from sufficient shareholders to have it tabled in November, by which time I hope even the most fervent of supporters will tire of being lied to and demand, not just league reconstruction but SFA/SPFL reconstruction too as it dawns on every club and their supporters that looking after their fellow clubs is good for business, especially with a lot less finance to share.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=emb_title&v=7mGVOekKMRs&ebc=ANyPxKpzuMjQHCfsEsOe8-Nhq6MIlKcJOdVqQBlOTBjVBBv5RZEILu5wm4X_VK2BQLcNIFKWGw0d9Q0tmxEqA4XOG7fLTkKJhw

Now is not the time to discuss of course, survival is the name of the current game but if there is game by October then all will be revealed.

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 6:25 am

Morning Bobby
This reconstruction everyone seems to think is a certainty?

Can I ask why the confidence it will happen? Am I correct in saying it needs 11 teams from 12 ( from the top flight) to vote it through ?

I believe the lower divisions will vote it through but 11 from 12?

The huns I suspect won’t. Still peeved at Hearts and Dundee, this could be there “ we’ll get you back “moment

Will Celtic vote it through? Quite frankly I hope not. I don’t really care if Hearts are dumped down a division. We owe them nothing.

What’s your opinion assuming I’m correct in saying it needs 11 votes?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 6:46 am

TWISTSNTURNS

I think it does need those eleven votes,and I also think it is just about the fairest solution to the problem with relegation and promotion. Don’t get me wrong,in ideal circumstances I’d prefer to leave things as they are.

It has another advantage too. If the huns vote against it-which is virtually guaranteed,as you suggest-and the vote still progresses,they’ve fucked up again and made even more enemies. And if it fails entirely,due to them and A N OTHER,then there will be one or two,such as Thistle,Hearts,Stranraer and all the teams currently second in their division,who won’t forget either.

Their Magic Circle is shrinking faster than their bank balance and influence. And it’s a treat to watch.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 6:51 am

Time for my dawn raid!

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 6:58 am

Bobby
I agree it’s about fairness too. In my opinion, the fairest solution is that Hearts being the worst team, are relegated.

I could t bring myself to vote for saving them, their vile support and their wee nyaff leader aff Budge.

No friends of Celtic. Levein? Attack on Neil. Their FTP supporters?

As for the huns gaining more enemies? Don’t see that would matter or count for anything. Short lived.

Nah . Fekk them.

Take em down M’lud.

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 7:10 am

Actually when I think of the coont Levein and every interview he ever gave after getting gubbed by us, seeing us being instrumental in sending them down would give me deep satisfaction.

What will Hibs vote? Hmmm. Lose revenue due to no derby matches if they put the knife in, but offset by losing a couple of matches v us and the huns?

If we got the opportunity to send the huns down? ( as fans I mean – I think we know what sneaky Pete would do), we would.

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 7:14 am

Craig “ everybody should get protection from Scott Brown” Levein.

Down with that type of thing.

Down with Hertz.

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 7:17 am

Craig “ bayo’s 2 x goals were own goals” Levein.

You’ll have gathered I’m no Levein fan. Or hertz.

Get down. ( Gilbert O’Sullivan csc)

big packy
April 17, 2020 8:25 am

MORNING ALLand JIM, bobby as usual great article spot on, I concur with TWISTY, Take em down M’lud. brilliant?

big packy
April 17, 2020 8:27 am

TWISTY, gilbert o Sullivan, knew you were old, but not that old??

Thetic
April 17, 2020 8:28 am

I thought Sevco would have put out their financial report on Good Friday,I was rather surprised they did not take advantage of the holiday weekend to bury the news
When you talk League reconstruction I think the NAMercian way of doing it would work in Scotland. The Premier League Teams would be permanent franchises no relegation, only Premier League Teams compete for the Scottish Cup. The Divisions’ have their each individual Cup Competition. The Premier League teams can have a farm team or teams in the lower divisions. The lower divisions are tiered a player in the third tier is paid accordingly and as he improves his skills and is promoted to a higher tier his salary will also rise. If Celtic had 3 farm teams either owned or in a working agreement with another owner the players would be playing meaningful games every week and it would also raise the standard of play currently on display. There is a lot more to the system than can be discussed in a blog but the system really needs looked at and when you see Scotland’s current world ranking u know doing the same thing over and over is not going to change or improve our players. When we speak about change look outside the box ,take each idea turn it inside out look for the positives, the negatives get everything on the table . The owners of the NASl are the people who run their football not two different organizations the buck stops at their door
It’s past my bedtime here I will wear my tin hat when I read back in the morning
Cheers

big packy
April 17, 2020 8:31 am

I went to see the strawbs at Liverpool empire 74/75, and guess who was the warm up act, none other than our own billy connoly,,ach memories.,.another true story?

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 8:43 am

BP

The strawbs

You don’t get me I’m ‘Part of the union’

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 8:46 am

BP

Alice Cooper played the Liverpool empire around the same time. His “ welcome to my nightmare” tour.

Was a big fan of his stuff at that time. Not so much now . Was just a phase I was going through. 10cc

big packy
April 17, 2020 9:01 am

TWISTY, 10CC brilliant?? loved alice cooper growing up, schools out and elected, must admit he used to frighten the shit out of me??

big packy
April 17, 2020 9:18 am

just watching a live webcam of o Connell street in Dublin, never been, but my paternal greatgrandparents danny Kelly and his wife alice, probably walked down that street many times, probably 120 plus years ago very nostalgic, definitely on my bucket list, if anybody knows o Connell street, it says the view is from flanagans restaurant and the spire?

JimmynotPaul
April 17, 2020 9:22 am

Morning all.
Just to let you know, my mother in law died last night. She was 73.
She had been in hospital before lockdown and on Sat, we received a call to say that she contracted Covid 19.
It’s a strange time with my wife being unable to see her mum for 5 weeks and now being unable to hug her brother or sister because of social distancing.
I know others on here have had to go through the same recently.
A wee funny to end, as I don’t won’t to drag the blog down.
About 2 years ago, we were visiting her and she says to my youngest, who would be 8 then, everyone in the room is listening.
Listen dear, how can you be such a pretty young girl, yet look like your father.??
Aye thanks, mother in law. ?

Peter
April 17, 2020 9:23 am

Thetic

My theory ref the huns financials.

I think they submitted to SFA/SPFL and they’ve not been put forward to UEFA as a competitor for next years CL/EL…. hence why they’re going after Doncaster and McLennan and all of the Statements, another matter of “deflection”

Twists n Turns
April 17, 2020 9:27 am

JNP

I’m sure the thoughts of everyone will be with you all at this dreadful time.

Social distancing going to prove extremely difficult for you all.

Sounds like the kind of comment my own late mum in law would’ve came out with ?

God bless . Love to your wife and daughter

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 9:27 am

TWISTSNTURNS

I agree with you 100% when it comes to Hearts. My reconstruction suggestion isn’t being made with the intention of throwing them a lifebelt. I’d be more inclined to throw them an anchor,or at least their wife and weans! I made it in the interests of fairness towards teams who have been relegated,or who lost out on the second promotion place.

Saving Hearts for a season is unfortunate,sure. But it will only be for one season. They’d have to be better than three other teams next season to avoid the drop,and unless they sign Messi and Ronaldo,they are on borrowed time anyway. And with the added bonus of the huns going even more ape than usual and losing the few friends they have left as a result,what’s not to like?

big packy
April 17, 2020 9:27 am

JNP, condolences, may she rest in peace.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 9:30 am

JIMMYNOTPAUL

I remember you telling us before about the sharpness of remarks that your M-I-L was prone to. They named a wee pot plant after her,you know! I’m pretty sure you’ll miss her,but you’ll know others who will miss her more. Condolences to all at a terrible time.

Fairhill bhoy
April 17, 2020 9:45 am

JimmynotPaul-sad news mate
My sincere condolences to you and the family
Take care?

Harvey
April 17, 2020 9:45 am

JNP

sorry to hear of your loss… thoughts and prayers with you and your family ?

Harvey
April 17, 2020 9:50 am

PETER

totally agree regarding SPFL ( & SFA) not allowing Huns in Europe …. there’s more scrutiny going on at UEFA to clamp down on clubs flouting FFP rules … UEFA has probably set some form of mechanism to penalise national football authorities if they do not adhere to UEFA guidelines to put forward teams for UCL & UEL competitions … final nail in coffin for the Huns Mk2

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 10:03 am

PETER,HARVEY

I think the SFA re responsible for Scottish dealings with UEFA. SPFL probably won’t even be allowed access to the accounts,apart from what is in the public domain. McLennan’s file at Ibrox probably has a big green mark against it due to previous allegations against him anyway,so they will use this as a way to get rid of him.

Doncaster,I think,is a red herring. It’s McLennan they want out,but by seeming to go after both and graciously and magnanimously accepting one dismissal while leaving the other in place,they will get what they wanted in the first place.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 10:08 am

TWISTSNTURNS

I was never really a fan of Alice,but have become more interested in his stuff in recent years. He has a show on Planet Rock. Tuesday-Friday for three hours from 10pm. Quite an eclectic mix of music,with some excellent presentation links. He also plays at least one of his own songs each night,and I have to say that he must be playing all of his better ones!

Btw,mailed you. A follow-up to my reply from last night.

jimthetim53
April 17, 2020 10:10 am

JNP, So sorry to hear about your loss. May she R.I.P.
Made worse by distancing! Same with Sol Kitts.
Take care.

jimthetim53
April 17, 2020 10:13 am

Peter, I so hope your theory turns out to be true. Although I heard the opposite might be the case, that UEFA could slacken off on financial regulations because of the turmoil at the moment.

Harvey
April 17, 2020 10:17 am

BMCUWP

Maybe Doncaster has an ace up his sleeve via 5WA to keep the Huns at bay?

My mate’s Da was a season ticket holder for 30 years but ill health took its toll and he stopped going in the mid 2000s …. he said he was blessed to have seen jinky and Henke in their prime but the one thing he just detested was the corrupt bastards at SFA ( those of Hun allegiance)

Fast forward to 2020 and these bastards are still taking the blue pound….

I’m glad I’ve been living down here in London for 20 years otherwise I’d go nuts if I was still in Scotland

jimthetim53
April 17, 2020 10:17 am

Bobby there is no doubt that Sevco hate McLennan and would love to be rid of him. But in their statements it’s Doncaster and Rod McKenzie they are demanding to be suspended.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 10:18 am

BIGPACKY

Main thing I remember about O’Connell Street is standing across from the GPO four years ago with my Dad. I was taking photos on my phone of “where it all started”,as I put it. He told me not to forget to take a photo of Nelson’s Pillar too.

I looked at him,puzzled. Where is that,I asked him. Right in bloody front of you. It’s about a hunner and fifty feet high,you can hardly miss the bloody thing! I’m like,WTF is he talking about?

Then he said-oh aye,I forgot. It’s not there anymore. The IRA blew it up to commemorate the 50th anniversary of the rising. C’mon,I’ll tell you the story in the pub!

And so we trotted off to the famous Flowing Tide. And for the rest of the day,it wasn’t just the tide that was flowing,I can tell ye!

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 10:21 am

JIMTHETIM53

Indeed,Jim. McKenzie,not McLennan. Scattergun approach to nail the one they want,with any additional victims gratefully added to the bag. Personally,I’m with the huns re Doncaster and McKenzie. Incompetent and over-compensated. Doncaster has over a decade of keeping the huns afloat,and you know my thoughts on others with that on their CV.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 10:29 am

HARVEY

The problem with the 5WA is that the rules were subverted and smashed in order to shoehorn the huns back into the Scottish League/SPFL. As a result,everyone who signed up to that is guilty of a firing offence.

Now,if someone went to that amount of effort and personal/professional danger for you,you would be grateful to them for it,if not in fact beholden. Your gratitude would be boundless,no doubt.

Not the huns. For the huns,it is a bargaining chip,and a blackmailing tool. They know where the bodies are buried,so to speak. Or in this case,they know why the body WASN’T buried in the first place.

Let’s hope that Ian Fleming was correct. You only live twice. We might see the back of them for good soon.

GER57
April 17, 2020 10:31 am

For all his faults, and there are a few, Peter Lawwell’s MO has been to work behind the scenes. He stepped down from his so called powerful position within the SPFL Game Board to take a position in a UEFA Committee. Surely he must be telling them off the record wtf is going on. There must be many within UEFA who dont love the huns.

Bada Bing
April 17, 2020 10:35 am

JNP- Condolences HH

Harvey
April 17, 2020 10:44 am

BMCUWP

you’ve just given me an idea ( apologies if this has been done before!!)

Craig Whyte – On her Majesty’s secret service

David Murray – Moonraker

Fat Sally – never say never again

Sevco – die another day

… I’ll get ma coat

Sol Kitts
April 17, 2020 10:47 am

JNP
Condolences to you and your family. Thoughts and prayers are with you, God bless.

jimthetim53
April 17, 2020 10:47 am

Ger57, with the greatest respect but I think that is wishful thinking. Peter Lawwell working behind the scenes? We all thought that back in 2012. Now we know better. He was complicit. If he is working away at UEFA, letting them know of Sevco’s misdemeanors, when are they finally going to do something about it? They are well aware of Res 12 for instance. Or, perish the thought, were Uefa not themselves guilty of incompetence in 2011? Why have PL & UEFA not demanded the titles to be stripped?

Bada Bing
April 17, 2020 10:52 am

Norman Hunter RIP

Rebus67
April 17, 2020 11:06 am

JnP,

Very sorry to hear of your loss. At least you and your family are there to hug your wife. Time to let the memories loose regarding your mum in law.

Everyone leaves a footprint in life. You can find these footprints in your memories.

I lost my brother two weeks ago and I find some relief in my memories of him. Since he had large feet, he left large footprints in my life.

Rebus

Rebus67
April 17, 2020 11:17 am

I think Sevco know they are going into admin. Their posturing has to do with manipulating the impact of entering admin. Vis a vis points deduction.

If this season was declared null and void then entering admin during that season would lessen the impact of the points deduction…after all it did not happen!

The next best option is for admin to happen during this season, rather than next. That way they can have a run at stopping the ten. Europe would, of course, be sacrificed but it would in any case because of Uefa’s reg on three clear years of financials. This is why they do not wish the season to be declared over.

Thoughts?

Rebus

jimthetim53
April 17, 2020 11:17 am

Packy, The first time I was on O’Connell St.(1968) we visited the GPO building. Like everyone else we stared at the bullet holes from the 1916 uprising. Imagine my surprise when I learned years later that there is a dispute about whether they are actually genuine bullets holes or not?

The Gombeen Man
April 17, 2020 11:28 am

JNP,

Very sorry to read about the loss of your Mother in Law.
It’s comforting to have somewhere to record these things and remember the lives that are lost and lives that are affected as we become numbed by the daily statistics and projections.

I’ll say a prayer.

Rebus67
April 17, 2020 11:30 am

Chasing the tourist dollar has had a negative effect on much of Dublin. Grafton Street is the classic example, where the only evidence of history is the historically high prices in many of the stores!

To a degree, O’Connell has also been affected by tourism, but you do get a strong sense of history just walking down it. Afternoon tea in one of the hotels on the street is a trip to a different time. Whereas the PO is a wonder. It functions as a PO but it is much more than that. The pictures inside testify to that as does the atmosphere inside…….a living, functioning memorial to a proud nation.

I have no known Irish roots, but, perhaps, tenuous ones, through my gypsy ancestors on my mother’s side.

Rebus

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 11:32 am

HARVEY

In that case can I have

Asterisk-Skyfall.

If you’ve read the Asterix books-totally wasted on kids,IMO!-you’ll get that,I hope!!!

Timbhoy2
April 17, 2020 11:36 am

Condolences to all on hear who have lost loved ones ,with this virus or any other diseases,As for Newco and their supporters who hate us Celtic Club and fans,Their fans should start waking up to the facts that it’s the Director’s who have put their club in these perilous positions over the years,IF some off them would just get honest about the way their club has been run ,and following all the lies that the media tell them,they would have chased King ,and his hand picked directors down Copeland Rd,but no they still hang on to it’s all Dermot Desmond and Peter Lawwells fault ,which the truth being isn’t.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 11:37 am

REBUS67

There are some people in your life that you never forget. And trust me,you’ll always have a wee smile at least once a day or so as a certain memory comes floating back. And yes,I know exactly how much of a platitude that looks when you read it.

Doesn’t make it any less true.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
April 17, 2020 11:41 am

TIMBHOY2

Yep. And next thing you know,it will all be Douglas Park’s fault. You know,the guy who put his last penny into trying to save his and their beloved club.

I’m sure he will look back on this and say-I wish I’d remembered that auld advert for the Volkswagen Golf…

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=O-M8cqWccdw

Bigrailroadblues
April 17, 2020 11:47 am

Good morning all from the Govanhill watchtower. All along.

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