The Gratitude Deficit


I suppose it was to be expected,really. Reaching for the begging bowl! Football has been living on a financial knife-edge for years now,and increasingly so as the big bucks started flowing in from tv money-and out again via hugely inflated transfer fees,agent fees and players salaries and bonuses.  

Actually,you could argue that there was at least some form of structure to it in England,a modicum of forward planning in that tv deals are finalised sufficiently in advance to allow clubs to plan for a shortfall in income. And even for relegated clubs-and that is a disaster that few  clubs plan for,bar wage reductions built into player contracts-there is always The Parachute Payment. This sees relegated clubs receive around £80m each over three seasons,with consolidation payments of around £4m to the other clubs in Tier Two. Lower payments are received by the clubs further down the pyramid. 

As I said,everything is geared to having advance warning of bad news,and a safety net should it arise. It’s not infallible of course-plenty of clubs have fallen for the sugar daddy switcheroo,the vulture capitalist who promises the earth while swallowing whole everything that the club had. Including in many cases,it’s only genuine asset-the big lump of real estate on which they have played for most of their existence. 

Charlton are just the latest suckers in this scenario,and there’s a special place in hell for that bastard Kennedy who ripped the soul out of Stockport County. There are many more,and there are also plenty of examples of the new owner filled with good intentions but who simply doesn’t have a clue and watches as the club falls to pieces,taking his hard-earned fortune with it. Simon Jordan springs to mind here. Though there may be one or two currently in residence at Ibrox. 

It’s a bit more difficult to forward plan for a pandemic,an act of nature which strikes with little warning,leaving no room to manoeuvre and no chance to prepare. A catastrophe which doesn’t just reduce income in a year or two’s time,but which wipes it out completely. At a stroke. Immediately. 

When the game was cancelled in England,beginning the weekend of Friday 13-!-March,it was originally for a period of three weeks. Although at that stage,the UK was not officially in lockdown-that would arrive on 24 March-I said at the time that 9April was supremely optimistic,and that I thought it would more likely not be for another month after that. I soon reviewed that,and pushed it back by another month,with games behind closed doors. 

By the middle of April,I was convinced that the season could not be completed and indeed that football WITH SUPPORTERS IN ATTENDANCE was unlikely for a very long time indeed. The English game is still planning to play to a finish-good luck with that!-while in Scotland we have called the season in the lower leagues,based essentially on league positions when the last ball was kicked. Only in The SPL is there a glimmer of hope that the season will be played out,and that is a forlorn one held only by those who seek to null and void it altogether. 

This is where it gets interesting. Scottish clubs are being strangled by their financial responsibilities at a time when cash flow is precisely zero. Players have been furloughed in order to receive government payments,business rates have been cancelled,yet some clubs are calling for a scenario which would mean that they face having to refund tv companies,sponsors,supporters et al for EVERY MATCH which didn’t take place this season-AND FOR EVERY MATCH WHICH DID!

Have you ever heard such lunacy? Especially as they would not be able to recoup wages for players or stadium staff,or police costs,or any other cost incurred during matches which have already taken place but have arbitrarily been declared to all have been a figment of our collective imaginations. With the added bonus,of course,that UEFA may quite rightly declare that any leagues thus declared null and void forfeit any coefficient points and income earned in their competitions in season 2019/20.

Bang goes Scotland’s second entry into the Champions League for 2021/22 then…

Meanwhile,back at the ranch,Neil Doncaster is correctly pointing out the existential problems that Scottish football faces as a result of this pandemic,and is asking for a bailout for the clubs from The Scottish Government. 

I don’t want to piss on your chips,Neil-but then,why would I? Not when a creature of your own making is doing it already. By the bucketload. It all seemed such a wonderful idea in 2012,eh? You thought they’d be grateful?

You need to pay more attention in class,me old son. 



Above article by BMCUWP. Fire in your own to us for Article of the Day. There might not be any football,but it’s never bloody dull in the Scottish game! Mail MAHE

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May 7, 2020 5:40 am

This few paragraphs hits at the heart of what’s going on. Selfishness shown by everyone over an extremely long period of time has left every Club susceptible…bar one!!
We still take criticism from our own support but financially we are the best prepared Club in the UK, maybe even much further afield. Even if it is purely by default we are still able to face our challenge head on..but we might not have anyone to play…….

May 7, 2020 6:00 am


Even if Celtic have Business Interruption Insurance,it will not be for a limitless amount. It will,though,cover a considerable amount of our losses. But the days of The Glorious Balance Sheet are gone for a while,methinks.

May 7, 2020 6:44 am

We’ll find out in due course the lasting effects of the crisis to Celtic’s finances. If the cash reserves are wiped out, I can’t see many other clubs surviving. Who will we play?
There could be an opportunity to reset the game in Scotland, cut the no of professional teams, more community based clubs and FFP throughout the system. Prize money to be weighted more towards the lower leagues and a decent tv deal. These things are all attainable, IF the clubs themselves want to get rid of the two club + bigotry model. Would Celtic support such a change? Form suggests they wouldn’t and indeed they would enter another shady deal to keep the Huns, and the bigot ££ , rolling. Pretty sad, really.

May 7, 2020 6:59 am

Think it was Mags the other day who mentioned the Commonwealth Games. Since when did such capital get spent in the East End? Hush money for 5WA? Who knows but the improvement to the environment around Celtic Park is quite dramatic.
Who’d a thunk it? The Queen coming to CP and thems spitting nails. Ipox must be in really poor nick for it to be snubbed in this way.
Don’t think I like the idea of our club officials hobnobbing with royalty and doing grubby deals with the devil.

May 7, 2020 7:23 am

Auldheid @ 1:37 am

I came across an article of mine posted on CQN on April 2015.

It brings it all back. Over 5 years ago, wow! I’d forgotten I’d penned it. The SPFL did ask the SFA for a review of LNS Commission in 2017 after the Supreme Court ruled on big tax case ebts, which was refused, however Eric Riley of Celtic had the evidence of dishonesty to HMRC by RFC in 2005 since Feb 2014 as part of The SPL Board it was sent to by SFM and copied to 14 journalists.

He sat on the SPL Board in 2012 where he was party to the 5 Way agreement and 2013 when he absented himself from the decision to appeal LNS findings.
It was the SPFL who asked the SFA to revisit LNS in 2017 after the Supreme Court ruled on the big tax case ebts but the SFA refused, quoting QC advice, the wording of which suggests some but unproven awareness of concealment of DOS dishonesty from LNS, that and not wanting to rake over old coals.

Celtic were thought to be behind the request to revisit LNS because the correspondence published in September 2017 was between Regan and Lawwell, but interestingly although Celtic knew all about the DOS ebt concealment from 2014, it was never provided to SFA as a reason to justify a review of LNS, which calls into question their actual resolve as does the non reply to an e mail to Peter Lawwell suggesting the concealment be pointed out Lord Nimmo Smith, following on from a suggestion from Regan that the SPFL take Sir David Murrays testimony to the FTT on why he used ebts to pay players – to get make RFC wage competitive (to sign better players – to win trophies.) LNS was not approached to anyone’s knowledge.

The handling of Res12 and LNS by Celtic, giving the impression of keeness to get good governance, but failure to use evidence provided on both issues, suggests protecting the 5 Way Agreement and their knowledge of it was a major influence on Celtic’s behaviour.

Oh, the names of the 14 journalists the evidence was also sent to are around somewhere….
Now if The Rangers dossier is half as good as the foregoing and pursued with the same vigour by TRFC, Tom English, Ewan Murray and other journos , then SPFL and SFA reform would need serious consideration.
But if the journos stay silent and folk are prepared to bail out clubs knowing the rules mean nothing, those in charge of Scottish football have nothing to worry about.

Nailed it!! It was interesting reading over that excellent CQN piece from five years ago. It is always worth remembering that before Neil Doncaster announced the setting up of the SPL Commission in March 2012, that due to pressure from press and TV reports, including Hugh Adam’s revelations, Stewart Regan was talking about the SFA President of the time being “heavily conflicted” and the SFA LNS Inquiry (which was running at the time) to be expanded to take into account the EBT’s and other pertinent areas of inquiry.

For that moment, for a few days in early March 2012, it looked like Scottish football was going to do the right thing. Some hope – Regan was out manoeuvred and side lined, concentrating on nailing all of Rangers and by extension all of Scottish football’s woes on one man, the patsy, Craig Whyte. Sir David Murray “cleared” Campbell Ogilvie and Neil Doncaster announced that the SPL would commission their own inquiry into Rangers use of EBT’s and side letters.

Of course the whole thing was a sham, with Doncaster as architect, the LNS Commission didn’t even sit until the five way agreement was agreed and signed – it’s outcomes were agreed a head of time, with hand picked witnesses such as Campbell and Sandy and their accomplice Mr MacKenzie as prosecutor.

Where were Celtic in all of this? Keeping their powder dry? No, of course they weren’t, they were stringing us along in full knowledge of what was going down. The call by Celtic and the SPL for a wide ranging inquiry into the SFA’s handling of Rangers wrongdoing was an artifice, they knew that there was no way the SFA could agree to such a thing, all organisations had skeletons in their cupboard the SFA no different. They played Stewart Regan as they played Craig Whyte.

It is interesting looking back to the exchange of letters between Stewart Regan and Big Pedro, they read rather differently when you know what was motivating Celtic PLC at that time.

It’s interesting but not hugely surprising that certain Celtic minded blogs are trying to reform Neil Doncaster’s reputation, we need to remember who he was three short seasons ago…

Rangers are making more of a fist of this fight over a little sleight by the football authorities, than Celtic did, having being cheated and majorly so, for over fifteen seasons.

Stay Safe

Hail Hail

May 7, 2020 7:30 am


Good leader, it is such a confusing situation, football is little different from a number of “hospitality and entertainmemt” industries.

Though as you say, the difference between England and Scotland in that regard is huge… decisions will have a huge impact on Clubs futures.

Take Wycombe Wanderers, they are eighth in Division 1.

However if the English Senior Leagues are called as is, and relegation happens, the Wanderers could find theselves in the English Championship with all the related riches…

Stay Safe

Hail Hail

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 7:35 am


We shouldn’t be too concerned over Celtic finances being wiped out should we? £38.9m in the bank at the end of 2019?

That’s gonna last a while right?

Then they’re gonna want 50,000 x £600 at the end of this month from the supporters. Most of whom worried if they’ll still have a job or a roof over their head? Not to mention the health implications of this world crisis.

So add that £30m to the £39m they had in the bank there’s £69m.

Where’s that money going?

Not to mention we are are owned by a billionaire.

Founded as a charitable club. Seems charity now begins at home.

Jeff Bezos , a multi billionaire, hit the headlines recently for asking the public to dig in to help fund Amazon employees wages throughout these unprecedented times.

The gasps of astonishment were heard across the globe.

Too ridiculous for words for most sane people. Asking the poorest of society to help with funding when you already have the money they gave you year in year out.

You’d think folks would be locked up for peddling such a ridiculous idea. I mean where in the world will you find fools in such high numbers that would ever buy into such a con?

I wonder if he’s tried Scotland?

May 7, 2020 7:46 am

Twists n Turns @ 7:35 am,

It’s interesting that Celtic PLC have come under little criticism…

Celtic were quick out of the blocks, record breaking time in asking for season ticket renewals.

Also Big Pedro was first along with Mike Ashley and Daniel Levy to announce a furlough of employees, Liverpool were going to do the same.

There was a wave of outrage in England, Liverpool shelved their plans and Spurs reversed their decision.

Celtic have not behaved as if they are more than a Club, they have though behaved like a typical PLC.

Also money in the bank!! Celtic have another 20 Million outstanding to come in, so that should be added to the total…

Stay Safe

Hail Hail

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 8:43 am

Just seen Fortuna Dusseldorf GM on Good Morning Britain, explained in perfect English what the situation is, if a player is positive, he is quarantined, rest of squad remain,all are tested 24 hours before a game,instant results. I wonder what it’s like to live in an efficient country?

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 8:54 am

A leaked version of the exit plan has revealed:  

Step one: From Monday it is is expected garden centres will reopen, more key workers’ children will go to school and more staff to return to businesses that stayed open during lockdown. The ‘once a day’ exercise rule will also be scrapped and police will be told to stop moving on people sunbathing or sitting on benches, provided they remain two metres from others. Officers will also be told not to stop families travelling to the countryside for walks and picnics;

Step two: From the end of May primary schools will gradually return with smaller classes. Outdoor sports where people enjoy space like golf, tennis and angling could resume.

Step three: From the end of June secondary schools will reopen as well as some outdoor sports and cafes returning. Gatherings of up to 30 people may be allowed;

Step four: From the end of August pubs and restaurants will finally be allowed to reopen – but with strict social distancing rules and reduced diner numbers;

Step five: From October, if the rate of coronavirus cases is low, all remaining areas of the economy will reopen including gyms. Sports fans returning to watch live matches will also be considered; 

From the Daily Mail, a Tory rag,so probably accurate

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 9:10 am

No mention of flights

I’m assuming that’s coming under “ all other areas of the economy”

There’ll be literally millions out of work by then if that is the case. Long before then actually.

Will the furlough scheme remain? Very unlikely I’d think

Awe Naw
May 7, 2020 9:22 am

Millie Small R.I.P

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 9:34 am

Awe Naw
That song is a regular on my playlist.

2 reasons:

1. I won that record at the ‘ shows’ at Whitburn gala day when I was a kid

2. The harmonica section in it is brilliant. A guy called Pete Hogman. My grandfather won awards for his harmonica playing. My brother is pretty good on it too.

I’ve a few songs on a playlist that I chose mainly for the
harmonica sections. Catch the wind by Donavan and a few Neil Young songs.

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 9:41 am

Awe Naw
An interesting aside to the Millie Small thing. She said in a previous interview that Rod Stewart had played the harmonica on the hit. It was Rod Stewart who clarified that the piece was actually played by session musician Pete Hogman.

Awe Naw
May 7, 2020 9:46 am


she helped to popularize Ska a legend. She is the same age roughly as Dave Greenfield and Florian Schneider. Who died this week also. She was so young when you think about it

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 9:56 am

Twists- seems furlough will be reduced to 60% of salary, and be wound down in July, good luck to you.

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 9:57 am

The UK Government buys a shed load of fake PPE from Turkey, just about sums up the response here.

May 7, 2020 10:10 am

Sounds like I won’t be up the road to see the folks till November,then.

May 7, 2020 10:14 am

bada bing1 @ 9:56 am,

Two things seem obvious, the UK Government can’t subsidise the wages of workers indefinetly, the UK Government can’t ease the lockdown to any serious degree until they can trace, test and isolate.

If wages stopped being subsidised in July as you say, tti needs to be up and running or else it could be carnage.

Have you seen New York Governer, Andrew Cuomo’s press conferences? Very impressive, a true leader…

A bit of New York irony when a Republican reporter was talking about demonstrations against the lockdown and he was basically telling protesters not to depend on the state but to go find a job… strange days indeed…


For me it all points to December for anything like the new normalcy to be back in..:(

Stay Safe

Hail Hail

May 7, 2020 10:19 am

60% furlough rate will cause serious problems for the lower paid.

£8.72 ph for 35 hrs pw is £15870 pa. 60% is £9522 pa. Admittedly there is no tax payable on that and even the NI is only about £100,so ignore it for the minute.

£9522 is short of £800 a month. That’s roughly the cost of renting a two bed flat in Swindon,and still leaves Council Tax and other costs to consider. Like food and fuel.

Better of by around £400 a month on Universal Credit,even the minimum is £330 a month with rent and council tax paid.

May 7, 2020 10:24 am


HARVEY who posts on here and I were for a wee trip to the Wimbledon Irish Centre when all this is just a bad dream. He stays in Slough,but I thought-probably easier for The Gateway near Reading Station,see if Fiona is still running the CSC there.

It’ll probably not be till The Year of 2525 but be grand if you turned up too! Guinness there has always been a joy,even the price isn’t too bad…

May 7, 2020 10:47 am

BMCUWP @ 10:24 am,

Sounds like a plan, definitely up for that… just let me know when.

Stay Safe

Hail Hail

May 7, 2020 10:52 am

Interesting wee observation re the lockdown. My early start,7pm on a Wednesday,is to do a 220-mile round trip of Swindon-Oxford-Southampton-Salisbury-Devizes-Hungerford-Marlborough-Swindon-Oxford.

Apart from the Oxford-Southampton part,straight down the A34 till I hit the motorway network,it is all across country. Salisbury Plain,Ridgeway,Wiltshire Downs. I’ve been doing it for so long I can pretty much switch off,which is why they close so many of the roads,just to keep me on my toes.

Last night was the first time I can recall the cab getting blasts of fragrance from the crops in the fields! Honestly,never noticed any before-except when the muck spreading is going on!

Obviously it had been overpowered previously by traffic pollution. But it made a very pleasant change.

Then it was back to driving round Swindon and environs for four hours or so. Heyho…

May 7, 2020 10:53 am
Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 10:53 am

Chairbhoy- ive watched Governor Cuomo’s pressers every day, a real shining light throughout this,an honest straight talking politician, Trump hates him as he’s everything that he isn’t.

May 7, 2020 11:00 am


Cuomo is everything that Trump hates. Firstly his wealth is real,he is a genuine millionaire. Trump,as we know,isn’t even a tenneraire,and will surely be jailed for his fraudulent practices when he leaves office.

Charges are already filed in many states.

But here’s a wee list of Cuomo’s achievements as governor prior to this.
“During his governorship, Cuomo oversaw the passage of a law legalizing same-sex marriage in New York; creation of the United States Climate Alliance, a group of states committed to fighting climate change by following the terms of the Paris Climate Accords; passage of the strictest gun control law in the U.S.; Medicaid expansion; a new tax code that raised taxes for the wealthy and lowered taxes for the middle class; paid family leave; an increase in the minimum wage; wage equality; and legislation legalizing medical marijuana.”
Sounds like some sort of pinko commie to me,so lang may his lum reek!!!

May 7, 2020 11:13 am

Been sent this by a lurker,with grateful thanks. Looks like it will be November,bud. But I’ve found the Hootenanny FLEG!
From Dingwall on FF.

Rangers playing the gentleman over the release of the dossier – but which SPFL club will leak it first?

Releasing it early to give clubs time to digest it over a weekend rather than just 24 hours notice before next Tuesday’s SPFL meeting.

The club will surely know that doing so gives the dark forces more time to spin their webs of deceit and evasion.

The moral high ground does of course mean nothing to the filth we are dealing with and their lackeys, both paid and unpaid, but it is good to see the club acting like this and playing things by the book.

Despite twisting every arm and using every contact I’ve not been able to get a sniff, never mind a decent heads-up, of the content.

Such is the level of integrity of the ruling cabal of the SPFL I doubt confidentiality will last more than a few hours before the dossier is selectively leaked.

Keep an eye on where it appears.
Hmmm,he conveniently overlooks his club saying they would release it three bloody weeks ago,that they wanted the top three men in the SPFL suspended regardless,that his manky club have been spinning the tale already through all their media laptop lapdogs and were out for the kill,and…


Strangely,their bluster dried up at around the same time a dodgy invoice was shown to much hilarity on Timternet. Took nearly a week for Amazon to deliver a new box of crayons so that they could start again,and here it is. Except it isn’t because Markyboy doesn’t know what’s in it,so anybody who leaks is a horrible fenian.

Naw,Markyboy. Anyone who leaks it is in the loop. You aren’t. You had yer day in the sun and it didn’t suit you. Don’t have the complexion for it. Or the brains.

Same result both times. A horrible stinky sweat as everyone avoided you like the plague. Take the hint,son.

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 11:40 am
Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 11:45 am

They should be made to pay for this nonsense

May 7, 2020 11:46 am

Correct, what happened to the corruption, in particular???

May 7, 2020 11:49 am

What’s been really interesting is watching which” journalists ” have been doing Sevco’s bidding.
Tom English ( again ) David Tanner with his sly Tweets.
Ewan Murray it could be argued, he was doing it for Hearts,virtually same thing.
Scott McDermott, Gary Ralston.
We see you. ??

May 7, 2020 11:50 am


SFA are steering clear of it,and only they can call a disrepute charge. SPFL are limited I think to a vote of censure. Which club will have the balls to propose and second that?

May 7, 2020 11:54 am


Ewan Murray articles in The Guardian were a disgrace. He is employed as a golf writer,and The Guardian should be ashamed of printing those articles.

As a one-off,aye. These things slip under the radar. Quiet slap on the wrists. But it wasn’t just one,and he was clearly allowed to use his company’s worldwide profile for his own personal benefit.

I suspect his all expenses paid trips to The Masters,etc,will soon be but a memory for him.

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 12:02 pm

I sent a letter to Nicola Sturgeon last week on a number of concerns I have. Doesn’t matter what they are, they were concerns of mine, though did involve others who I’d prefer remained nameless.

Anyhow, I expected nothing in return, but lo and behold , today I’ve had a very detailed response, albeit not from Mrs Sturgeon, but from one of her cabinet.

Fairly comprehensive, but also providing me with a more personal contact number should I have any further questions or wish to discuss my concerns in more detail.

So, fair play to them. Given how busy these people must be, I’m very appreciative of the fact they didn’t just fob me off but clearly spent some time to consider and respond to my concerns.

Not that I agree with some of the responses, but as I say, they provided me with an avenue to continue a dialogue.

May 7, 2020 12:08 pm

Twists n Turns @12.02

Ernie Lynch will be on here shortly castigating you ?

May 7, 2020 12:15 pm

Hello Packy!!! Wakey Wakey!

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 12:18 pm

No fans allowed in Dutch football until a vaccine is found

Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 12:22 pm

Ha- I got on ok with Ernie ?

In some respects, the grumpy bastard side of my character was hoping they didn’t respond, so I could do my Victor Meldrew impersonation, but they’ve denied me the opportunity. Never mind, I’ll keep writing until they don’t respond. ???

On a serious note, trying to remain balanced in these incredibly difficult times is something I struggle with. If you question what you see as nothing more than lies and deceit, it can appear you’re uncaring or inconsiderate. I’m acutely aware of how many are suffering in so many ways throughout this pandemic. Health wise, financially, emotionally. Nevertheless, when I know something is wrong, with let’s say reporting mechanisms, and I choose the word mechanism as opposed to numbers deliberately, then I struggle to let go.

I’m gonna have to let go temporarily though. I fear I’m off to A&E tonight. This fekkin stomach hernia is starting to strangle my insides. Literally.

Tried NHS 24 today again. Only dealing with Covid. Phone yer doc.

Doc says can’t see me- go to A&E

Looks like I’m out of options other than go there.

Ffffffff – I’ve furloughed my only staff. I’m the only one looking out for the orders coming in. Whit a time for the hernia to decide to do it’s worse.

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 12:26 pm

I wonder if Doncaster will try to get on SSN before Robertson?

Bada Bing
May 7, 2020 12:30 pm

Hearts and Stranraer need to be asked what they were supporting here…

May 7, 2020 12:32 pm

Hi Bobby & Chairbhoy!

Sounds like a plan … yes Reading probably more easier!

I used to work in Henley-on-Thames and there is a cracking pub , Angel , on the river bank just after the bridge if coming from Maidenhead.

Catching up with the posts …. just seen the SPFL have dismissed the DROSS-IER by the Huns…
They should be charged with bringing game into disrepute… 25 point deduction should sort this mob out!

Regarding Celtic PLC / season ticket sales …. I find it astonishing how ANY club could request sales when there is no indication of how and when full stadiums are likely to be given go ahead ?! .

May 7, 2020 12:34 pm


Due to the NHS being chronically overworked by this crisis,people are doing their best to help by staying away from their GPs,etc. I’m surprised at the response from NHS24 as they should be available,erm,24 hours a day,no matter the problem.

A few months back,I could not get an appointment at my GP for a simple matter of antibiotics for a urine infection. I knew what I had,but Swindon surgeries had decided to centralise rheir appointment system and they fucked it up big time. No one could get an appointment,yet the surgeries were virtually empty.

So I went into A&E about 4am one Tuesday morning. Apologised for bothering them with such a trivial problem. The response? Can’t get an appointment at the GP? We know,thanks for coming in when it’s quiet.

In and out in less time than I usually have to wait in a GP surgery despite turning up in time.

My point? Go there at the godawful hour that you usually wake up. Or better still-


Btw,A&E is strangely quiet these days apparently,as everyone knows not to bother the doactir. Don’t be that idiot with those words engraved on his tombstone.

May 7, 2020 12:36 pm

Twists & Turns @12.22

If I were you I’d get to A & E pronto.

HH & Keep Safe

May 7, 2020 12:39 pm


Well,they’ll tell you it was all a Vatican conspiracy.

Margaret McGill
May 7, 2020 12:42 pm
Twists n Turns
May 7, 2020 12:45 pm

Thanks for the concern bhoys

Aye I’m gonna head up there later tonight.

Hopefully be quiet – I believe the op to fix it is fairly straightforward ?

May 7, 2020 12:47 pm

Oh The Sevco are….


May 7, 2020 12:51 pm


Good lad! Wimbledon is always a good day out,but it’s extra expense and time. The Gateway has always been a joy. I used to meet KITALBA in there when he was over,now there’s a lad!

About five years ago,my nephew had a placement with the oil exploration side of BG. About three months,so I meet up with him every third week or so. Wee trip to London,another to Oxford,whatever,just good to see him and hear how he was getting on. Etc.

So one time,we just decided on a pub crawl in Reading-you must know everywhere by now,Paddy?!

Erm,not really. It’s not a holiday,I’ve got a lot of work to do. Fuxake,kids nowadays…

So I took him on a tour of the fleshpots of Reading. By the time we were halfway through,he just wanted to go back to The Gateway for good Guinness and a blether with his uncle.

He’s a smashin lad. Very tolerant of fogies with a drinking head on.

May 7, 2020 12:55 pm


A genuine PMSL moment!