Democracy crowns us Champions

Yesterday seen something take place that many of us probably forget how fortunate we are to have in the first place.
Democracy.
It cost countless lives to deliver to nations, fought for in almost every corner of the globe, and it should never be taken for granted, ever.
Its constantly tested though, especially recently.
 
Ridiculously I have three governments that Im not a fan of at all in my life to some degree or other ( North and South of Ireland and USA ) but I have long accepted thats just life.
Sporting governance on paper should be a walk in the park compared to real life affairs, considering theres a rulebook to adhere to and listed punishments for breaches, but the national sport has easily vied with the virus for the headline slots this past couple weeks.
I could ask why but the answer is in the word ‘headline’ , they work to an agenda and theres not a Tim that doesn’t know it.
 
Upon losing a democratic vote the gentlemanly thing to do is to show grace and congratulate the victor,then give thanks to those who helped you along the ultimately unsuccessful journey.
A well done and any grace was so very lacking. Friends were acknowledged.
Even having lost the last line of their statement gave no thought to that fact, showed zero regard for the fellow members desire to move on, and in fact stated that moving on is impossible even though the clubs wish to.
‘The status quo cannot hold’ after losing displays the mentality that we can decide what holds or not, plus its an affront to the actual democratic vote.
Win and fine, lose and not? Great !
A one club one vote system is the essence of an equal for all process, and should never be abandoned.
Thats one thing Hampden got right I will give them that.
 
Of course should some clubs still wish a report I have no doubt they would be able to commission one and be invoiced for it also themselves. Not being official might bring problems but you can pay anyone to look into anything, and if that body has some credibility all the better.
Plus there’s fans with keyboards aplenty out there I’m sure would just love to sink their teeth into that impartial file, but with money stopped altogether who is gonna agree to commence an open ended and thus unlimited funds investigation?
It wasn’t about the vote process anyway was it, the SPFL just aren’t playing ball with the Ibrox mob. They are about to play cat and mouse with them though.
 
Punishment has to happen, and it will begin a fresh round of kicking and wailing.
It could be said for the good of the game it should be a minor slap on the wrist and everyone move on but that spiteful final line probably scuppered that, and possibly makes some form of solid action even more important just to really get the point across.
I would point out that mad dogs do get put down, even in a democracy.
They’ve certainly been acting that way and the next couple weeks should tell if their fans will take up the mantle.
No matter what punishment though, it will go down like a lead balloon and dont discount playing to the gallery with a ‘ they aren’t getting it’ whatever it happens to be while sending someone out the backdoor to sort it all out.
The ultimate spiteful act would be to liquidate and not pay them.
We triple double dare you Parky !!!
Some type of public slap will come soon. It simply must.
 
As for our club of choice well played I must confess, silence was well the best policy here as they tear each other apart. I note that leagues must be concluded by the 25th of May, but dreaming of seeing the big announcement made that day is wishful thinking and truly would lead to big allegations. You can bet your bottom dollar it aint taking place then. Whatever.
It will be soon but just give us the damn thing that we earned by any metric.
Of course ‘The Virus Title’ will be disputed by many from hereafter, especially those fans with keyboards that ignored a real dossier of evidence not long ago at all like cowards.
Will the same writers and clubs decry the democracy they live in, or they just don’t want it in their sport?
Cake and eat it?
Hypocritical bastards more like.
 
 

The above is by Mahe, California’s voice of authority on Scottish Football.
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Breaking News….

The Rangers have been offered a place in the English Conference South League but, they have rejected it stating ‘They Don’t Do Woking Away’..?

HH

big packy

CALTON TONGUES brilliant??

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
Reminds me of the time I phoned Mrs Kitts in her car to let her know some idiot was driving the wrong way on the M25.
“It’s worse than that”, she said, “there’s hundreds of them.”
(Almost) a true story ??

big packy

SOL brilliant? im in Basildon at the moment, then Billericay later, will you be open later tonight, or will I have to sleep in my tent again???

ASWGL

big packy there are a lot of sh*t dash cams out there so watch what you buy. I have the same one in 3 vehicles, pretty easy to fit with a wiring kit, so that when you start the ignition it’s always on (and you don’t forget to turn it on each trip) the A118C Novatek is sold by a lot of manufacturers and has an inbuilt capacitor (instead of battery which is in a lot of cheaply made dash cams and can go on fire in exposed sunlight) something like this model here.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/VIOFO-A118C-Novatek-Capacitor-Battery/dp/B01FSTTNZU

big packy

ASWG,L cheers pal, will check it out?

The Gombeen Man

Jimthetim,

It’s apt that the word democracy is in today’s headline.
From 1974 to finding documents in 2009 and another 11 years until the decision and Sevco rage about integrity and transparency.

Hope you are well.

fan-a-tic

Jimthetim53 Big Packy
Road rage.
Many moons ago i was a passenger in a car in London driven by a friend of mine from Dumbarton.
Going down Baker st he gets into some spat with another driver who he says cut him off.I never noticed anything.
My friend leans out the window and says pull over arsehole.
Guy duly agrees and does so we pull in behind him.
My friend jumps out ready for square go.
Little car door opens and out comes this huge guy who is about 6ft6inches and just as wide.
My friend comes to a grinding halt and big guy charges so friend hightails it and is chased around car by giant.Looked like they were doing laps round his Honda.
This goes on a little while and i am sitting in passenger seat pissing myself laughing.
A cop duly arrives and gives both a severe telling off and then says to me why didn’t you help your friend.
I said have you looked at the size of that guy?He replied laughing yes you made the right decision .
He sent both on their way with a warning.
Was funny as hell.

ASWGL

Bath night in the Croy Hills (another true story) © Copyright big packy.

The Gombeen Man

The Executive of the Premiership in the 6 Counties meet tonight to consider whether to award the league or null and void it.

Linfield are top of the league by 4 points. No doubt they’ll follow the lead of Sevco.

https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/52648260

big packy

you know what ghuys, with our business going under, its going to be strange, I took early retirement at 55 ,12 years ago when my wife opened the dog grooming salon, but I was still working picking dogs up and taking them home, now its nothing, zilch ,what am I going to do all day, ok ive got dogs to walk, it seems strange after leaving school in 1968, ive worked till now, im getting old, hey I might be on here all day, I can here you all say, a fate worse than death??

big packy

ASWGL, that was me tried to keep it a secret??

big packy

FAN, brilliant???

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
Always open here, mate. Just remember to bring raw mince for that Rottie. You can obviously run pretty fast coz when it came back last night it was so hungry it started to eat a large Indian. He wasn’t very impressed, I have to tell you. Said he wasn’t going to deliver here again. ??

big packy

SOL, I can I bring wee joan???

The Gombeen Man

Packy,

Sorry to read that. You both might be surprised by what doors open in the future.
You can take the bhoy out of Croy but you can’t take Croy out the bhoy.
In the meantime your stories are a great daily read.

HH

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
Wee Joan said the reason you run so fast is to make your escape when you’ve annoyed her. ?

jimthetim53

Packy, I’ve just spent 2 hours painting the garden fence, I’m knackered! It feels like I’ve just done a full shift. Some good blethering with passers by mind you.

big packy

THE GOMBEEN MAN and SOL KITTS, luv ya both to bits

big packy

JIM, ive got 2 fences to paint, any chance of you coming down here, ill pick you up at tebay services??

A thing of beauty

Thanks for the replies folks. Much appreciated.
I’ve said I’ve been waiting for them to go bust for eight years and they’ll survive this as well. How many others will I’m not so sure.

jimthetim53

Tebay Services? Ah, happy memories! Every time I was in there I was with friends heading south for a good week-end. Expensive mind you. But we saved up for our week-ends away. 🙂

big packy

did i tell you i went to mcaffs house last week, it was closed as usual, but i peeped through the curtains, pictures of john greig, willie henderson, ralph brand,ronnie mckinnon, jeez i thought i was old, FFS MCAFF, close those curtains???

The Gombeen Man

Packy,

You’ve still got that trip to Dublin to make. You might even stay. ☺️

Auldheid

Posted this on CQN and looking down at just a couple of comments and the main blog, it fits nicely here (although better chance any CQN comments that get support reach ears at CP).

AULDHEID on 13TH MAY 2020 6:42 PM
BOURNESOUPRECIPE on 13TH MAY 2020 12:50 PM

Paul67

Hell mend the SPL, and Neil Doncaster.

In 2012 the very same people now being abused and conspired against, presented a license to a new group of business men that had mysteriously acquired a stadium and training ground, after Lord Hodge liquidated the previous club.

Eight years of a semi living hell manifests itself in a country that hasn’t been able to accept contrition and a support who think that they were relegated.

Someone should have told them that their brand new Grievance FC, is the birthchild of Scotland ( Alex Salmond ) the SFA, and SPL.

They cannot compete on a level playing field the old club were the proof.

Neil Doncaster and much of Scottish society at large, tore up the rule book to accommodate the new angry monster, you reap what you sow.

HWG TIAR
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Auldheid.

I think Celtic have reached a piss or get off the pot point here Paul and Br in terms of setting out a way forward for Scottish football that should be part of the input as the issue is discussed.

They know that they had to agree to the 5 Way Agreement for commercial reasons and proof exists they accepted it. Proof Peter Lawwell denied seeing to shareholders at the last AGM.

I think many of the support understand the commercial pressures, I think most folk whose experience is in business recognise them.

However if the moral price of accepting an arrangement that at the time was seen as good for the game means denying to Celtic shareholders at an AGM in public that Celtic, who for an unknown number of supporters are held to a moral standard that will not accept lies, then the game of football in Scotland is screwed (and if it were not for CQN protocols I’d use a stronger word).

The Res12 at last AGM set out why it should be taken from SFA and given to UEFA yet Celtic rejected it, significantly not on the basis the case was incompetent and Rangers were in the clear but on grounds neither UEFA nor Scottish clubs were interested! What Celtic have never said, not once in 8 years is that Rangers were guilty of wrong doing. Not a hint even in private.

Which is why I comment here and now.

Paul himself calls the latest escapade as a power play and it certainly looks like it, but it is one that a number of parties hostile to Celtic with strong connections to Ibrox have clearly been involved in.

The BBC whose bias has been clear currently but who (along with others) were provided with sufficient material as outlined on SFM to show that the bias/hostility has been historical, and currently, full of hypocrisy.

So are Celtic going to remain silent for the good of the game on the bind that the continuing attempts from Ibrox to undermine Celtic BY FOUL MEANS put Peter Lawwell and The Board in?

In seeking to get supporters to renew STs is it not time Celtic came clean? Indeed from a commercial as well as moral point is it not good business? If being shown to put up a fight gets the blue meanies on board, why wouldn’t it work for Celtic?

Possible commercial impact aside are Celtic going to act when the time is right AND MAKE A PUBLIC COMMITMENT TO DO SO before any stabilisation talks to bring about the necessary changes in Scottish football governance, that Peter Lawwell assured me was their objective in the spring of 2013, so that the game is governed fairly and seen to be so, and so take power playing out of the equation and restore the trust lost because of the actions of RFC since 2011?

Or will Celtic double down on deceit to supporters/shareholders to stay in governance power through placed men until they lose it at some point in the future?

Perhaps I’m wrong, perhaps in a world that was heading to hell on a handcart full of lies, Celtic have to go with that flow, but this damned virus has given a reason to rethink values and Celtic, being a club who are supposed to reflect the strong Christian and moral values of the support that make us different, might want to show the way to reconciliation via telling the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth about how they went about their defense of Celtic since 2012 and what that has required of them as a club and as individuals?

The road to reconciliation has to start somewhere and Celtic taking that truth path initially with their support would show the way for the rest.

Better that than Scottish Football heads ever downward on an elevator of lies to hell.

Auldheid

Thetic

Hi another great read I admire how you guys consistently give us great articles day after day
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I’ve been meaning to say that for a while and agree totally.

If it keeps up SC is in danger of being taken seriously. 🙂

big packy

THE GOMBEEN MAN, that’s a must ,will be looking for you ,drinks on me?

The Gombeen Man

No bother Packy, I’ll show you both around the place…You’ll both love it.

Awe Naw

Auldheid,

For nigh on 50 years Celtic have been pish on the European stage.
For those 50 years Scotland as a footballing nation has went backward.
In the last 10 years Celtic have never turned bigger profits.
The only thing Celtic PLC is interested in is shareholder value.
For as long as we have as many customers as we do who proudly proclaim that logic and morality is not part of their decision making process and they will buy ST without the need for justification regardless of how long Covid-19 lasts. Why would a man who sits in the bilderberg group our major shareholder change that ?

big packy

THE GOMBEEN MAN , cheers ,not bringing wee joan, she will cramp my style??

Mahe

Howdy folks,
Thanks for the compliments.

Emu, no not me although there is a Partick Fc jag around the LA area.
I recall passing a work an and on the side showed two fellas in turbans up a ladder painting.
It said above them “you’ve tried the cowboys now try the Indians”

Auldheid, I was listening how German footie treats it’s fans like grown ups and was thinking they don’t have an ounce of trust for us and probably respect either considering the criminally racist comment and not a hint of what the money was for.
Listen to the working class? You’re having a laugh.
It’s the next folk you should speak to, removal for this shower.

Hail Hail

emusanorpan

Auldheid @ May 13, 2020 6:55 pm

Excellent post as ever P! Keep fighting the good fight. The truth will out! This is indeed an opportunity to put Frankenstien’s monster to its grave. Before they drag others down with them.

jimthetim53

Packy, you on?

big packy

YES

Afghan melon - formerly Cplchlc

Popcorn in the bin !
No slasher horror movie, cheeky wee sevco wit they like ?
Scottish fitba ruffles the Zombie clubs hair & on we go ?

Afghan melon - formerly Cplchlc

Lucky it wasn’t Tom Boyd threatening all & sundry he would have been jailed by now ?

Auldheid

Aweupporters Naw

Auldheid,

For nigh on 50 years Celtic have been pish on the European stage.
For those 50 years Scotland as a footballing nation has went backward.
In the last 10 years Celtic have never turned bigger profits.
The only thing Celtic PLC is interested in is shareholder value.
For as long as we have as many customers as we do who proudly proclaim that logic and morality is not part of their decision making process and they will buy ST without the need for justification regardless of how long Covid-19 lasts. Why would a man who sits in the bilderberg group our major shareholder change that ?
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Why indeed if he holds supporters in the same contempt as you do, i.e. that no matter how much his duplicity is exposed and how Celtic played a big part in the survival of the LNS sham that stopped titles being stripped, whilst pretending to be surprised by it, they will still tolerate him, then you may well be right.

I think at the end of the day it depends on what values each supporter holds and CoVid might teach us the value of being truthful and what happens if the untrustworthy are given power..

big packy

AWE, ffs the nightshift is on, afghan melons, next it will be different class, puf puff, aswgl I give up???oh sorry, mcaff, fairhill bhoy, and garry delaney?

Afghan melon - formerly Cplchlc

How are you Big Packy, hope you & Joan are safe & well ??

big packy

JIM, whats up buddy ?

big packy

AFGHAN MELONS, wee joan was fine, till your name came up?????

jimthetim53

Packy, you remember I said my neighbour had a wee get together for his 60th at the week-end? There was balloons & banners etc. When I was out painting this afternoon a woman called over ‘many happy returns for your 60th Jim’! I was well chuffed!

Auldheid

Mahe

Howdy folks,
Thanks for the compliments.

Emu, no not me although there is a Partick Fc jag around the LA area.
I recall passing a work an and on the side showed two fellas in turbans up a ladder painting.
It said above them “you’ve tried the cowboys now try the Indians”

Auldheid, I was listening how German footie treats it’s fans like grown ups and was thinking they don’t have an ounce of trust for us and probably respect either considering the criminally racist comment and not a hint of what the money was for.
Listen to the working class? You’re having a laugh.
It’s the next folk you should speak to, removal for this shower.
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Based on someone who once worked at Celtic, they treat supporters with contempt.

One of the reasons is their perceptions of the working class.

Everybody who works for a living is working class, and they contain many more as bright as any behind Celtic Towers.

big packy

JIM, congratulations ill be 60 in 10 years, cant wait???

big packy

ok you ghuys think about it ,I was born on the 5th of February 1970, that makes me 50 true or false????

Afghan melon - formerly Cplchlc

1970 Packy don’t know about that ? I was born a year later & my birth certificate isn’t a stone tablet like yours ?

Afghan melon - formerly Cplchlc

Any excuse for the wimmin tae take a shot at chatting Jim up & they are in there, the old happy birthday line eh ??

big packy

AFGHAN, trust you to suss me out???

big packy

sorry about the duplicate post, its sol kitts fault??