5 Alive

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Anyway, the subject of five subs is very interesting to me. Its here, and once a rule change is onboard its hard to jettison if liked and established. This one is supposedly for the compressed season to help with injuries which I get, but I wonder if thats the game turned to a 16 man game plan now, and forevermore?


As fans we should be happy. We should !
There’s more players to witness in the flesh for a start, something that is nice for the match goer especially, the armchair manager gets more ammo to rate or slate, although the playing bonuses might increase a bit across the board. Still we are no longer restricted to the usual two switches and one on bench for safety, now we face exciting waters no matter how the game sits.


If the job is done the gaffer has a real good opportunity to showcase the fringe players, maybe even blood some of that talented youth we have stockpiled. To good an opportunity to be missed as why jade the senior players in a compressed season, plus lets satisfy the ambitions of the hungry in the dressing room by giving them the minutes the crave, but we werent in a position to indulge before. The path to the first team just became a lot easier, which we should benefit from.


If drawing a game, or indeed losing it, to be in the position to switch half the outfield players is unprecedented its goes without saying but its also the ultimate exciting roll of the dice?
Why would an opposition manager for instance, having seen what he considers his first choice team concede a few to the Champions, not throw on four or five young players for the experience. There’s you as a fan thinking that’s her done and dusted yet all of a sudden you’re looking at the cream of their youth setup, possible future Celts, thinking crikey this is different.
And then if we counter it with our own kids, a game of two halves? Certainly more for the viewer and the matchday fan when allowed back.


Sir Bobby Robson, God Bless his Soul, gentleman that he was had a great trick with the subs down in Tynecastle. If he didnt like what he was seeing he threatened at half time to make wholesale changes if it was the same after ten minutes from the restart. His triple substitutions on 60 minutes were the talk of the Toon man, got the crowd completely up for the game, got the opposition manager freaked out into making a few switches, and generally gave the game a different dynamic.
Of course there was also the danger factor, but the unwritten rule was if Ive used all my sub stay on if alive!


Nows thats with three subs, five at once would be one hell of a play.
It deserves its own name and will no doubt get one, but it will be fun to see, who and when utilises it. No doubt we will see a sub subbed soon also.
And if ten subs at once happen, the game may well turn out to be a different one than you sat down to watch, but thats almost another half time sized period?
An age getting them on the field, and an age of injury time.
Never mind away to the toilet, sure jump in the car and you’ll be at the stadium in a seat by the time they have all high fived and been announced.
Well you know what I mean but this one has the potential to frustrate and delight in equal measure Im thinking.


The above by Mahe.

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August 4, 2020 6:22 am


August 4, 2020 6:30 am

You had me slightly confused until I realised Tynecastle is presumably meant to read Tyneside.

I’m in the camp that 5 subs is something that will be an asset to us. Young Dembele for one should see more game time this season.

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August 4, 2020 7:22 am

Good morning.
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August 4, 2020 7:52 am

I did not have to enter my details. Looking forward to 5 subs gives the game a little freshening up .I don’t like watching basketball but it speeds up their game. Remember back years ago before subs ,when guys got hurt they would stick them out on the wing to hobble around How did that make the game any more entertaining. I also like now when they kick off from centre they can pass the ball back. the other thing I would like to see changed is throw ins put the ball down where it went out and let the players kick it in and the opposition has to give them 10 yards. Everyone would have to be on their toes from a quick retake in.

August 4, 2020 8:08 am

Morning all
It will be very interesting to see the effects of 5 subs throughout the season.

Not had to enter my details at all during recent technical modifications.


August 4, 2020 8:10 am


The re-entering of username and address is more inconvenient than you realise.

Twists and Turns plus my e mail address comprise of 35 characters!

(Twisty reduces it by 8 to 27 characters.)

27 characters x 1 second per character = 27 seconds.

When you’ve got fat fingers and are using an iPhone, I reckon I make 3 typos per 20 characters. Now, to correct those typos , I need to delete them then re-enter them.

That adds more time.

If my average post contains 200 characters, allowing for my typos and corrections, I reckon I need 4 minutes to type it up. Add my 27 seconds to enter my e mail details, then allow me 30 seconds to read it over, before hitting send,

I’m now at over 5minutes.

Factor in my inconsiderate wife interrupting me with trivial information such as “ your car alarm is going off” or “ the garden shed is on fire” or “ that’s another letter in from the bailiffs”, or and you start to realise just how time consuming this blogging can be.

I think it’s only fair we get paid per post at £0.01p per character.
(This post was started at 4-10 am this morning)

August 4, 2020 8:23 am


Mine is 67! A magical number for sure,but bloody time-consuming.

Once I’ve posted the first one on an article,I can scroll down to it and just c&p my moniker in. Still leaves the addy though. Looks like the only way out again is to reset to before the changes,which means losing the articles during that period.

I’ll scroll back to the Predictor and Naps articles and c&p the current tables into an e-mail in case those records go into cyberspace.

August 4, 2020 8:28 am


Could only c&p the results up till before Saturday. Can’t find the updated table which includes Saturday results. Did you post them on the main article on Sunday or Monday?

August 4, 2020 8:33 am


Found it,sorted. Both competitions are in my mails and I’ll post the current standings when I open the articles on Friday.

August 4, 2020 8:38 am

I know you’re trying to resolve it. I understand the complexity and to be fair, issues have been minimal since inception.

Not so much of an issue for me this morning as I’m not working. Got family matters to attend to. Don’t need to leave the house until 10-30 or so.

Was asked by the Scottish Government to fill in a questionnaire this morning on the impact of Covid on business in Scotland. That was fun! I’m not sure my responses will be included in any feedback! I started it at 4-30 and only just completed it.

The boxes for ‘additional comments you wish to add’ for each category were unfit for purpose in my case. Simply not big enough.

I should’ve waited until I’d taken my medication before completing it. Now I’ll need to double the dose of Losartan today. ?

August 4, 2020 8:40 am

Sorry – was typing and hadn’t seen your request. Looks like you’re good.

Just for future reference, I have a copy of all the weekly results saved on my phone should you ever lose them for whatever reason.

August 4, 2020 8:45 am

67 characters?? Fekk me!

Just thinking ?

Instead of Bobby Murdoch’s curled up winklepickers, you need something that is shorter yet retains the message?

What about:

Bob’s Broon Brogues?

Eh?? I was just trying to help ?

August 4, 2020 8:52 am

Morning all, especially Big Jim Packy and Jim The Tim if you’re lurking. Mahe, good leader today and hopefully the new subs will inject exciting changes to games…it can be boring watching teams sit in even when they’re getting pumped. This really could be a game changer rather than tweaks to the hand-ball rule or off-side rule1
As I was away for the weekend, belated thanks to those who offered their best wishes!, I watched the game last night. I didn’t recognise many of the criticisms I read on here yesterday and Sunday after the game. I thought Celtic were very good considering the fact they’ve not had much game time at all. Calmac had a number of forward passes that looked very dangerous, I think he playerd Klimala in with a thru ball and he was involved with the pass to Taylor for the 2nd(i think).
The ball Bain had to touch over could have been moving and his training is to take no chances, get it away no matter what! Other than that he did nothing out of the ordinary, he didn’t really have to. Brown still has a couple of miss-passes in him but he still does a helluva lot of good work on and off the ball!
Eddy and Frimpong were exceptional, Taylor had his best game for us in an attacking sense but at least twice he left us exposed and open to a costly counter attack which a better team would/will exploit.
Ajer and big Julien looked vulnerable at times and decent at others but I’d still be looking at a left CB!
Have a good day everyone from a wet Renfrew!!

August 4, 2020 8:55 am


Aye,true-but that would be disrespectful to Bobby’s memory. It comes from a piece in David Potter’s excellent biography of the great man,about when Bobby met his future wife. And I’m reliably informed that Kathleen was quite pleased when she heard about it-for which I was grateful to say the least,as it had been widely misunderstood until I explained it!

August 4, 2020 8:57 am
August 4, 2020 9:00 am

Welcome home . I agree with you. Lots of positives and a few issues that we need to look at, but, a solid enough start in the context of the domestic opposition we will encounter.

The biggest threat to our attempt at a history making 10 though, was very much in evidence at Pittodrie.

Some brilliant , strategic , subtle , but very well executed play. Clearly a great deal of planning had taken place close season and it came to the fore in Aberdeen. Madhun played a blinder.

Him and his cohorts pose a bigger threat than anything in a football shirt.

August 4, 2020 9:02 am


Glad the trip went as well as could be expected,under the circumstances.


I was probably a bit light in my praise of certain players in my article,as certainly there were no failures. Yes,I could criticise the central defenders being out-jumped,or the fact that even Hamilton can quickly bypass our midfield to break quickly,but I decided to focus mainly on the bigger positives,which for me were the goals,the performances in attack of our wing backs,the take and pass quick movement.

Especially given such a long break from competition,some players could be excused some ring-rustiness. Overall,I was more than happy with the performance and the result.

August 4, 2020 9:04 am


Said as much on Saturday when I awarded Madden MOTM. Every 30/70 went the way of the huns. And that booking for the Aberdeen player when Kent dived in front of the linesman summed it up perfectly.

August 4, 2020 9:06 am

I don’t know if I ever said to you but I had the pleasure of spending the full day with the great man himself. Dinner and more beers than you would believe. Him on the Guinness, and he could sink a Guinness believe me.

It was the most interesting day I’ve ever spent with a footballer. I learned things I never knew, and some things I’ve never repeated and never will.

Indeed someone in our company contacted me the day after and made the comment “ if we went to the newspaper they’d pay us a lot of money for the stories”

It was one of the shortest conversations I ever had with anyone!

August 4, 2020 9:11 am

Even if they do, I can safely say I don’t think my air miles would cover the costs!

August 4, 2020 9:32 am

That appears to be me started with moniker.
It’s there!
Twisty that Covid form would have been fun!!!!

August 4, 2020 9:42 am

Still same here I’m afraid.

August 4, 2020 9:58 am


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August 4, 2020 10:01 am

Testing ?
Of course I am :O)

August 4, 2020 10:01 am

Nae probs .

August 4, 2020 10:17 am

Exam results out today. Just had my grandson on.

Kinda happy he was but not jumping for joy.

A in English.
B’s in 5 others … but

Failed Biology and Maths.

Hey ho.

Tried to make light of it with him. Told him he wouldn’t need Biology and Maths unless he was planning to chop up a body then count the bits .( and I can help him with that anyway)

August 4, 2020 10:52 am

Although edit facility, appears to have disappeared again.
It’s back for this one but not earlier pists, of fine.

August 4, 2020 11:07 am

Neil explained the main reason why he did not put as many subs on earlier as he might otherwise have done. It was simply down to the shortage of warm up games and he feels he as to get 90 minutes into the legs of the players he expects to be managing the Euro qualifier programme for us.

In particular, he wanted a couple of easier games against lower league opposition to work up to fitness. I would not be surprised if there were arrangements for a closed door 90 minutes for those who did not get the 90 minutes against Accies since we do not play till next Sunday.

Aff oo!t

August 4, 2020 11:17 am

I think that was a very sensible move by our management team on Sunday. It especially suited our captain Scott Brown, who is still getting up to his high match fitness levels. Game time for our first pick players is very important at this early stage of the season. They need minutes on the pitch, not rested.

August 4, 2020 11:28 am

I was both surprised and a touch disappointed/ saddened to see some criticism/negativity re Scott Brown’s display on Sunday.
I thought he played well. Kept it simple, and offered some protection to the defence.

I think because of the role he fulfils, it lets the lesser ‘disciplined’ players, such as Christie, play with much more freedom.

I also think if we were to add some steel to the centre of defence it would help SB to be able to ‘coast’ a wee bit more in the matches v lower level opposition.

I’m not sure Europe will be a place for him this year. A fully focused Ntcham would be my preference.

I’m a huge fan of his though. I appreciate he’s not getting any younger but I still feel he has a valuable role to play for this season at least. To captain a side to the number of trophies he has led us to is remarkable.

I hope when Scott hangs up his boots there’s a role for him at CP should he want one.

August 4, 2020 12:40 pm

Yes, Scott Brown is a leader of men, and is hugely influential at Lennoxtown. I would like him as our future manager.

August 4, 2020 2:01 pm


August 4, 2020 2:03 pm


August 4, 2020 2:03 pm

Yep – still same

August 4, 2020 2:04 pm


August 4, 2020 2:04 pm


Testing 2

Nope – not disabled. Still need to complete fields

August 4, 2020 2:05 pm

More twists than chubby checker

August 4, 2020 2:06 pm

Who’s chubby checker?

August 4, 2020 2:07 pm

He was doing the Twist years ago

August 4, 2020 2:08 pm

Oh I see. Packy will know.

big packy
August 4, 2020 2:09 pm

AFTERNOON ALL ,JIM and MCAFF mcaff was waiting for you at lymm services on the M6 on sunday, waiting for a lift back up the road, id arranged for you to pick me up to get some skwerr sausage to bring back home,, jim was going to give me a lift back, well as far as lesmahagow ? still have to keep putting my details in,???

August 4, 2020 2:11 pm

When I tap I get prompted with my name & address, not so bad.

August 4, 2020 2:16 pm

Mahe, how’s the wee Angel today?

big packy
August 4, 2020 2:17 pm

JIM, noticed you were on in the early hours, you should have e-mailed me, i would not have answered it, but its the thought that counts??

August 4, 2020 2:19 pm

for Packy

Mike in Toronto
August 4, 2020 2:22 pm

I know it sounds strange, given that we have the biggest squad in Scotland, and so, having 5 subs should help us. At least in Scotland.

However, I am wondering if it will help generally. Smaller clubs wont be able to expand their payroll, so, not likely that smaller clubs will significantly increase their payroll.

Celtic now seem to rely upon higher caliber loan signings, e.g. Forster, Elyounassi (spelling). We got those players because they were seen as top players, but maybe didn’t start well, and need more game time than a spell in the reserves is going to give them. However, if teams can now field 5 subs, will bigger teams think about keeping players like ME, as they are more likely to get 20 minutes as a sub even. And if the players think they have more chance to staying in a better league, are theyless likely to sign for clubs like Celtic, where they will get more time, and even some CL exposure? I worry that might be the case.

Mike in Toronto
August 4, 2020 2:24 pm


Somewhere over the last few years, I have misplaced my faith. But, on Sunday, I went to mass for the first time in several years. It felt different than it did in the past, but there was still something nice about it. Think I maybe just need to force myself to go, and maybe that something I am missing presently will come back.

August 4, 2020 2:30 pm

Jim, looks like wrong side of the bed day unfortunately.
Hail Hail