3 Points

Good morning folks,
Three is the magic number, and I happen to have three points to get off my chest as our team goes out to try and claim the same.


Firstly, today’s game affords us the chance to start a string of league wins together, something we simply must do if we have aspirations of the fabled tenth title. We just watched our rivals squander the chance to go double digits ahead, which really said something about them and their mentality. After winning the first two the third was a cup final essentially, and it should have been rammed into them that double digits this early, allied with a result of sorts when the two teams clash, was a hand on the title. At least it should be for a good team.
They were flat for that crucial third game, a big mistake all around.
If we can string three wins together, there’s a statement right there. Six games wait between the derby game, and its not beyond us to win all six at all, not beyond our rivals to drop points also.
Lowering the gap and then a result of sorts in the derby places the pressure back on the hunted, and a few quality signings would compound that pressure.
They dont cope well with pressure, Lenny has been dealing with it since the day he signed.
A win at Tannadice, no more no less, and the hunt is back on.


Secondly, in my humble opinion the old adage ‘football is nothing without the fans’ will be finally consigned to the dustbin on Sunday. I say this due to the fact the Champions league has almost perfected the ‘artificial crowd’ complete with sound effects, so much so that its easy to actually forget Covid has emptied the stands.
One comment I’ve yet to read on here or anywhere is this game is crap without any fans there, something that all football fans were worried about when hearing of empty stadium resumption.
But yet modern technology has allowed the broadcaster to mimic the atmosphere, and that is something Jock never seen coming, visionary that he was.
While our league games have a notable absence, Europe’s premier competition has the simulation down to a tee, Sundays final affords the chance to nail the fans’ needed claim once and for all. If you forget there’s no fans there and focus on the football, it worked, and it has certainly ‘tricked’ me over the quarters and semi’s.
I’m not sure if thats good or bad, but it is a lesson that once again, necessity is the mother of invention.


Lastly, while some of the changes that have been pushed upon the game were indeed of necessity, its striking how fast and how easy it is to get something done when its either needed or wanted.
That old saying ‘Change doesn’t happen overnight’ isn’t relevant anymore.
There’s been more change in six months than in six years, five subs, water breaks, mini tournaments, team bubbles, artificial crowds, compact season, no Christmas break etc etc.
This is all well and good, showing the sport can react to changing times, but it must be noted that there’s zero excuse for fighting change now we can see for ourselves how it can be initiated and instilled as the new normal.
If and when there is some type of restructuring up north, that’s the very time to insist on some big changes now that changes are all around us.
For starters, just like ASWGL article mentioned, we need to get rid of plastic pitches one way or another, three in the top flight is a disgrace. A long time frame for replacing, and some assistance should see the hurdles moved. It’s notable in the Dutch top flight the clubs themselves pay to replace and plastic pitches that happen to enter their league, such is the disdain for them. Scotland must adopt some type of similar model.
The ref pool should be expanded to include outside referees, which won’t be as popular as replacing bad pitches but is just as important in the long run. The gravy train for brethren needs to be halted when changes are being introduced.
Transparency regarding Financial Fair Play would be my own third choice, and all every club has to do is have an external trusted accountancy firm stamp and sign your books as kosher, which again is something that may prove vital for league viability.
Those who would fight the above wish to stay in the past.
It should be impressed upon them that in a post Covid-19 planet where mass unemployment and recessions are the new normal, offering poor fayre will see your demise plus fans that could be counted upon previously may have to pass on the season book or merchandise for the family.
The Sky deal was already signed, thank goodness, but theres no guarantee of another or similar. In that case its up to the clubs and league to have a good enough product that it will garner broadcasting interest, have an attractive price point that will entice bodies through the turnstiles, plus prove accessible at every level for the nations youth.
Freshening up the sport, modernizing it somewhat, would go a long way towards that.


The above is by Mahe. Enjoy your weekend wherever you are.

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August 22, 2020 4:09 am

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August 22, 2020 4:10 am

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August 22, 2020 6:34 am

Good morning all from Govanhill.

big packy
August 22, 2020 7:35 am

MORNING ALL and JIM , MAHE yes 3 points, no need to do anything fancy just get the points.H.H.

August 22, 2020 7:53 am

Morning Packy, your up early!

August 22, 2020 7:58 am

Mahe, as you say changes can be made, profound changes at that, when the need is great. The changes needed in Scottish football are there for all to see. But the hunger for them is not. At Hampden nor at the clubs either. They want the easy life they are familiar with. They don’t have the vision to see further than tomorrow.

Get did of plastic pitches, financial fair play, unbiased competent referees? IF ONLY!

big packy
August 22, 2020 8:03 am

MORNING JIM, yes will be hitting the M6 to blackpool in about half an hour, think i told you last night need to take our dogs somewhere, because joans friend is coming at 9 with her 4 westies from burnley,, so no room for 8 westies in the house😍😍she promised me they would be gone by 4, they bliddy better be the game is at 5-30😍

August 22, 2020 8:06 am

Blackpool? I don’t suppose you will have a typical day there what with driving and having the dogs with you. However it’s a very long promenade to go for a stroll. But get well wrapped up, it can be very breezy!

big packy
August 22, 2020 8:17 am

NO JIM, just straigt onto the beach the dugs luv it, then a stroll down to the pleasure beach not that i will be going on any of the rides😍then fish and chips, and some pies and bridies from the scottish bakery,👍

August 22, 2020 8:23 am

Enjoy yourself pal. 🙂

August 22, 2020 8:28 am

Good Morning all.
My goodness Mahe, there is a bundle of points in your leader today. And every one of them is entirely valid and current. Foremost of course is aiming for 3 points today, and I am pig sick that I can’t attend a ground 3 miles from my front door. C’est la vie, but needs must. As to the other issues, any sentient being could not do other than agree with all of your suggestions.
Stay safe in California.

big packy
August 22, 2020 8:32 am

JIM CHEERS, will speak tonight👍

August 22, 2020 8:34 am

Friesdorfer, Used to love Dundee. I worked for Wm. Low, there H/O was on Dryburgh Ind. Estate – beside the Kingsway. Spent many overnights in the city. Always found the people very friendly.

August 22, 2020 10:07 am


Three points is a must,no doubt about that. As for football without crowds? Hmmm,might at a push be ok in the newly-formatted final stages in Europe,but I think we saw in the final rounds of the English and European league games that Jock’s point is still valid.

Bring the crowds back,sooner the better.

As for getting rid of plastic pitches and hun cabal referees,well that’s a a no brainer. Again,the sooner the better. But turkeys will vote for Christmas first…

August 22, 2020 10:12 am

JtT 53
I’m the other end of Dundee almost at the eastern extremity on the Arbroath Rd, but know the Driburgh Industrial Estate well. As an expat Weegie, I am very happy living in Dundee.
All the best.

Big Audio Dynamite
August 22, 2020 10:17 am


El Hamed. Jullien. Ajer.

Broony. McGregor.
Forrest. Elyounoussi


August 22, 2020 10:19 am

Good read Mahe.
Tonight will see Celtic blow Dundee United away. We will carry our momentum forward to be comfortably ahead of our inferior challengers in a couple of months time. People get ready, the Celtic hurricane is starting to blow.


Big Audio Dynamite
August 22, 2020 10:24 am

Being linked with Ryan Sessegnon of Tottenham. Apparently they paid Fulham £25m for him last year. Can’t say I’ve seen him play.

August 22, 2020 10:30 am

I agree Garry, I think we will blow them away.

I reckon the slip up by ‘them last week will spur us on just as much, if not more than our last win will

Its easy pickings, its a must

August 22, 2020 10:36 am

If we got Sessegnon he would be a sensation in Scotland, there’s your left sided position fixed

August 22, 2020 10:36 am

Good Morning all.
Mick Jones CSC


Big Audio Dynamite
August 22, 2020 10:49 am


Jeez, not heard that in years. Used to like AC 👍

August 22, 2020 10:54 am


In his book The Road Less Traveled, Scott Peck put forward a theory that original sin was laziness.

Instead of doing the hard work of learning via experience, humanity cheated because it was easier than doing the hard work, they took on knowledge of right and wrong leading to judgments that they were too immature and uninformed to make, judgments that ill served them.

The relevance to your article is that Scottish football, a reflection of part of humanity, got lazy, got into a comfort zone. The celestial remedy was to kick them out of that zone and start us thinking by changing the reality in which we have become comfortable.

That perspective could also apply to our politics and the pandemic could have the same effect ( I hope it will) to change the selfish thinking that has taken more precedence since Thatcher.

I was thinking same as you watching the game last night. It helped that the football was excellent and it is the football and only the football that really matters, everything else is the meaning we each give what we watch. Fun, but all because we want to watch Celtic playing good football.

The virtual sound background created a reality close to what viewers, as opposed to match goers, experience and when you think of the benefits environmentally as well as cost of attending, minds that would never have conceived of the reality in which football now finds itself might just do the harder job of rethinking. The signs are there.

I agree with all of the changes you suggest, Referee Service, Domestic FFP, Fit and Proper Persons in Charge are a drum I’ve been beating along with others since 2010/11.

We currently live in fear and uncertainty, but that creates hope and if there is a lesson to be learned by the world, it is that truth matters and truth begins at home. The hope is that reality based on truth, not lies, is the platform on which a more enlightened future can be built.

A thing of beauty
August 22, 2020 11:07 am

Goodness me, everything you say is correct but it’ll never happen in our lifetime. Too many self interested parties within scottish football to allow any of it to happen, except maybe the plastic pitches.
James Henry neil,
Welcome to the blog, absolutely spot on – Sessengnon would be a sensation up here but he will have far more suitors than us and also clubs loaning out their young players look for them to be developed. Not exactly a strong suit of Neil Lennon.
I am hoping for three points tonight in Dundee. We should have enough but our defence worries me. Where is our LEFT sided centre half 🤬🤬

August 22, 2020 11:12 am

For Big Audio Dynamite by Big Audio Dynamite


August 22, 2020 11:21 am

No mercy Celtic.
Give them a Pounding


August 22, 2020 11:32 am


Welcome and enjoy.

Morning all.

August 22, 2020 11:47 am

Welcome to this Dear Green Place. 🍀

August 22, 2020 11:50 am

For the growing number of James on here.


August 22, 2020 12:35 pm

Just heard on Clyde SSB that Sean Connery is 90 on Tuesday. James Bond in the early 1960s. Now 90! holy shit 🙁

August 22, 2020 12:37 pm

Sean Connery must be about the same age as Big Packy 😊😂

August 22, 2020 12:42 pm

Garry, LOL 🙂

btw, they also mentioned that it looks like the ‘test’ game for letting fans into grounds will be the Celtic V Motherwell match next Sunday. Possibly 1,000 Celtic fans. Coincidence? I think not. They know 1,000 Celtic fans will pass the test. The best fans in the country.

August 22, 2020 1:28 pm

Get your predictions in

August 22, 2020 1:35 pm

Did they mention if Motherwell fans would be getting tickets. Knowing Peter Lawwell, he would prefer it to be 1000 Well fans at £30 a ticket. 😊

August 22, 2020 1:47 pm

Garry I think it’s just home fans. Although you’re probably right about PL! 🙂

August 22, 2020 2:08 pm

1,000 Celtic fans allowed in to see a game. Are there as many as 1,000 ‘posh’ seats?

August 22, 2020 2:14 pm

Good morning all.
Hope all are good.

Big Packy I’ve been to Blackpool three times. It’s dated but you can enjoy yourself. Russ Abbott was resident comedian on the bar out on the pier then. Jim said it’s windy but I remember the seagulls were a pain.

Big warm welcome to the blog for JamesHenryNeil. Hope you enjoy it here.

Hail Hail

August 22, 2020 2:36 pm

Afternoon all, I hope this finds you well!
If Big Jim Packy is lurking here’s a wee tube for him and Wee Joan for their dog-filled Saturday!

August 22, 2020 2:40 pm

Have we no signed Duffy yet???? Can’t understand the F’ing about. If it’s about wages offer him a Henke type deal, pay him as much as the ‘salary cap’ allows and a testimonial against Eire at Celtic park (as an example) at the end of his contract so he receives a lump sum payment. He is only on £40k p/w in the EPL (only 🙄) ‘shirley’ it wouldn’t be too difficult to ‘sweeten the deal’.
Could it be that once again we are waiting to find out our CL fate before buying a much needed experienced hard man defender. No CL no ‘real’ money spent on a defender. Euro losers league – maybe another £2-3 mill punt on another project.

comeontaefeck CSC

Noel Skytrot
August 22, 2020 2:47 pm

I’m going for a 4-0 today no time for fecking about. I can’t get the song Piling on the agony, putting on the style out my heid. I think it would be brilliant to hear that at the matches once things resume. Great wee song.

August 22, 2020 3:02 pm

Oglach, I’m very worried our effing about will lose Duffy also. That’s two week messing about now. We will probably lose him which would be a terrible outcome.

Steve Bruce words on Eddy are interesting. They won’t even give us a price and say he’s going nowhere Brucie claims. Encouraging if true. I’ve a hundred on him going by mid Sept.

Hail Hail

Bada Bing
August 22, 2020 3:24 pm
August 22, 2020 3:24 pm


Just for you. Beware, you’ll have an earworm all day!

My Fav Lonnie Donegan:


August 22, 2020 3:30 pm

Can you bloody Adam and Eve it.
My ten to one shot was leading until two furlings out when it pulled up!
Son of a

August 22, 2020 3:41 pm

Mahe, It’s a fix!

August 22, 2020 3:47 pm

Its a something, just not sure what 😉

August 22, 2020 3:49 pm

California’s famous Red Hot Chilli Peppers lost their guitarist overnight. End of an era.
Rest in Peace Sherman.
You earned it dog.

August 22, 2020 3:56 pm

Afternoon all, hope you are all well. Mahe I agree with everything you say today, realistically if we even got one or two of your wishes, it sure would be something. Why no one is pressing for a better quality of football, by getting rid of plastic, and looking at FFP more strictly is beyond me.

On to the football and 3 points are all that matter. ☘🇮🇪☘
Welcome JHN

August 22, 2020 4:08 pm

My take on Duffy…………..if we win Wednesday we will sign him if we don’t then😠

August 22, 2020 4:20 pm

I think the national sport is nearing the end of this phase of it’s existence.
The elder “statesmen” are due to move on soon, many of the big hitters have been caught by mother time.
Petrie, Ogilvie, Jabba, King, Peter, Dermot, and many more gone or due to go soon, naturally thus ending this cycle. It will coincide with this campaign for ten ending which is natural.

Pushing for a normalised league are people like Budge and Aberdeens Yankee owner. I expect our new geezer to help that push also.
It can run but it can’t hide from change.

Another factor is the current fanbase, which I would think has less young fans than before. Reasoning being playstations, enthusiasm around the game declined with the number of pitches, mobile phones, that was already in place before Covid-19.
The virus will see many kids who didn’t go to a game, and if they did was it the racous 62k that enthrall? No, a thousand in a park that seemed a mausoleum. This will lead to a generation of kids not addicted to the game.
Teams may struggle for fans. I don’t think that’s rocket science.
A reformed exciting mostly locals in the team league would be a great start to helping them get and stay engaged with the national sport.

Hail Hail from the smoke

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