One tough gig
It must be said it’s not easy at all to manage our football team.
Not only do the hopes and dreams of the faithful rest upon your shoulders but results themselves are received with zero apparent logic by a senses heightened fanbase.
Take the weekends one nil. You’ve read the angst from scrapping home after a disjointed performance up at Tannadice.
Yet should the team pull off the same result Wednesday against the Hungarians, would it be mostly celebration or concern?
The former no doubt, just happy to be there.
In that respect, the job Lenny holds is a bit of a poisoned chalice, despite the fame.
Ronnie Deila won two leagues, as did Brendan. One filled the park, one emptied it, which shows that although the objectives are the same, and the same targets were hit by both, it’s a case of how you did it.
Wee Gordons teams sometimes got accused of being boring to watch, but he did stick with two strikers up top, which brings more goals and by definition excitement. His Euro adventures were not classic Celtic by any means, yet a defensive performance was totally forgiven if the team went through.
Neil also has been winning, but yet as we see is coming under pressure for lack of team cohesion allied with over reliance on the more talented players to produce the magic. His previous successes seem to gave gained him no breathing room, and his flaws are intensely scrutinized whilst behind.
All of the above should show you there is no rythme or reason when it comes to getting it right, simply winning and delivering leagues is not enough for our support. A season full of Dundee United performances would bring the axe along with the title for instance.
Well Tims seldom agree and each will have their own standards to gauge others against.
On field progress must be the goal. We can’t put the same players out every week and expect the same result, therefore coaching is required.
Facing the same scenario regularly (teams sitting deep) should help formulate a plan, yet so far at times we look perplexed.
In recent weeks we have seen the starting eleven switched up, much better than sticking with the same if it’s not working well, and there’s every chance of more recruits joining the cause bolstering numbers and morale, giving more options which we will all agree is a positive.
The anxiety after the Tannadice win has clearly been hyped by the unique season, but one wonders just how much importance Neil is placing on the how we get there, and if he just see’s the promised land of the title as the be all and end all, worth 38 dull one nils no problem?
After all when the history books are wrote it won’t say slogged to the tenth, it will say landed the historic tenth.
The pressure is bound to get to some, that was always inevitable, but is this one season were perhaps we could forgive the performance for the result?
Surely if that is going to happen this year would be the prime candidate?
Yet Tannadice shows even if the points are brought home, three points that are really needed, complaints can and will follow, tenth season or not.
This tells me the Celtic fans don’t just want this or any league merely delivered, they want it in style, they want no questions asked who was the better team. Regardless of what is at stake.
Like I say, it’s a tough old gig.
Still, you’re very lucky if you can get it.
RIP Pat Mc Cluskey
The above by Mahe.
It would be brilliant if we could go out and play our attacking game and put on the style for the whole season but with the coveted 10 at stake I would take 1-0 every single game just to get this done and dusted.
MORNING ALL and JIM , MAHE, great post food for thought, having watched the lions ive probably been spoilt, but they didnt go for scrappy 1-0 wins they went out to entertain the fans, and woe betide them if they didnt, big jock would have seen to that, what better sight in the world is a hoops player banging the ball into the net, seen them all do it, but here is the conundrum, maybe scrappy 1-0 wins all season and playing it tight at the back, may see us get the ten, its a difficult one to call,im glad im not the manager.H.H.
The expectations / demands from Celtic supporters this season is far greater than ever before. That puts added pressure on Neil. Is it an unfair level of expectation? That’s debatable.
The ‘law of attraction’ is very much in play now. For many the very thought that they want something to happen , will ensure it happens. I see it on here and witness it through friends and family. They want the 10 and nothing will convince them it might not happen. The supporters who have adopted that stance, tend to ignore the weaknesses evident in the manager, the tactics, the players and the board.
Of course the opposite of the above also applies. The glass half empty, eternal pessimists.
They discredit any victory , constant negativity and adopt the view that because they think Neil will fail, that indeed he will fail.
Somewhere in the middle are the analytical type. Constantly assessing and reassessing the situation. Balance. Pragmatism. Definitely a few of them on here and I’m sure in your lives outside of here.
Me? Ach I freely admit I’m probably in all 3 camps at one time or another. All over the place. I’d love to be in the 3rd category but alas I’m too flaky and temperamental.
Japanese guy told me one time I expected far too much of people. Said it clouded my judgement and influenced my behaviour. I was young then, and have to accept that over the following 35 years or so he’s been proven correct.
Where do you sit??
Morning all from miserable Renfrew where I’m just about to attend a YouTube funeral of a cousin who sadly passed last week after a troubled life! RIP Andrew, I hope you find peace at last!
Twisty, great post and as relevant as Mahe’s great leader. Which camp am I in…well, I’ve not been in the second camp since the days of Tony Mowbray, although Deila certainly tested our patience!!!
I’m definitely expecting to win the Ten but not without niggling uncertainties at the back of my mind. This team have been over the course and have shown they have fortitude and mental strength, two characteristics that Lennon has in abundance. I feel these qualities will come to the fore as the season progresses and will see us victorious!
Mass calls, will catch up later!!
Football is an entertainment business, not that you would know that from the way the majority of our opponents set up and play in Scotland. Celtic have always been a team who set out to play an entertaining brand of football, and win games with style and flair. Therefore, Celtic supporters who have been reared on that, will not readily accept Celtic grinding out boring 1-0 wins on a consistent basis. I certainly don’t.
I would hate to see a season of boring but winning football. Others are different, and would accept 10 in a row no matter what. I do not value winning the 10 as highly as many of my fellow supporters, as I almost see it as an acceptance that Sevco are indeed Rangers. There are many Old Firmers in our support. I am not one of them.
Morning all & Packy.
I have to admit that after reading some poster’s views on the result on Saturday I had slight pangs of guilt at not being overjoyed in the 3 points gained. It was more a sense of relief I felt. Grinding out a 1-0 win on the 83rd minute makes me anxious. We very nearly dropped 2 points! I don’t think of myself as a whinger normally, at least with on-field matters, but I’m being a pragmatist on this occasion. We need to improve on that game.
I’m the kind of guy who is confident of a victory in every game,knowing how well we can play-while wondering how we will achieve it if we play as badly as we too often do.
Many more performances like Saturday or like at Kilmarnock and we won’t win this league. And now that Killie and The Arabs have shown how to play against us,it’s a template everyone will follow. Of course nobody wants to criticise NL in all this,but he doesn’t help matters by sitting on his backside in each game until his alarm goes off to remind him it’s maybe time he put on a sub or two.
This is a serious problem which needs sorted ASAP,everyone talks about how he is all about motivation and less about tactics,but I’m not seeing much sign of his motivation working too well at the moment. And I’m bloody worried shirtless about tomorrow night.
Calm Down my fellow timaloys NFL will guide us to glory. The team will deliver the10 and hopefully the European Cup last 16 depending on Group opponents
The season has just started so let’s give the players a bit of slack no need to slate certain players if they have a poor game thanks
Twists when you updating the racing table as I had a winner on Saturday for the first time :-)))
Turkish media are reporting that Celtic have agreed a fee for Trabzonspor attacker Caleb Ekuban. A fee of £7.2 million being agreed. Ekuban is expected to arrive in Glasgow in the next two to three days in order to complete his medical??????
If true it can only mean one thing – Au revoir Eddy. We are not going to spend 5 mill on Ajeti and 7 million on EKuban to have them sit on the bench. Either that or Griff is offski and PL has suffered a blow to the head and isn’t his usual self.
I hope if that is true, it is Griff out the door, and we are going to see a 352 formation going forward. We will need 4 reliable strikers for that set up to work. Or is it Klimala on loan to say, Aberdeen or Motherwell etc.
Whatever, I would be seriously miffed if we were to lose Edouard this transfer window.
Ekuban could see a Green Brigade first- trying out a song for a player based on a Kraftwerk hit
Caleb Ansah Ekuban
Current club Trabzonspor
26 years old
Italian born / Capped for Ghana
Former Leeds Utd player
Seems a very strange one indeed if true as he is hardly a prolific goal scorer. 2019 / 2020 season 17 league games 4 goals with a career total of 49 goals in 219 games
Oglach, The player’s agent a friend of Peter Lawwell?
It would work. 😊👍♬
“Fun fun fun watching Ekuban”
I know it’s a mistranslation of Autobahn – it’s not fun fun fun – but ‘ ‘Fahren fahren fahren,’ driving driving driving on the autobahn
http://celticunderground.net/unsung-hero-pat-mccluskey/ Unsung Hero-Pat McCluskey 🍀
Hearing that this is Fat Freddy’s favourite new tune. 😜
Fat Pat McCluskey was a hero of mine.
He had dig and was a talented/tenacious ballplayer.
I still have memories as a young guy attending a game at Tannadice where some clown with a mustache was sticking the boot in constantly and the ref giving consent.
There was an old fashioned strammash at edge of Celtic box in first half and when dust settled the guy with mustache was lying on the grass with a serious shin injury and a lot of blood.
Pat had previously had a word with the guy but realized it was time for action.
Guy was stretchered off and a football match broke out.
McCluskey appeared against Aberdeen,Rangers and Dundee utd 14 times each.
Big Jock certainly was aware of his value and character.
The things we still remember.
Fan a tic- Iain Philip rings a bell,a hit man back in the day
AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, im over the moon ghuys with this new striker ,49 goals in 219 games puts him on a par with amido balde and slightly above rafael schiedt, at least raphael new he was scheidt,😎
If our head of scouting and accountancy decides he is worth the money we will have to acknowledge his constant success in player recruitment and be thankful.
Especially if he replaces outgoing player at a fraction of the cost.
Is there a reason why we are playing at 3pm on Sunday instead of Saturday?
It’s not as if we’re playing a European game on Thursday.
HH & RIP Pat McCluskey
FAN, yes peter knows a player when he sees one😎
CALTON TONGUES, is it on tv, that might be the reason.H,H,
No, just realised Motherwell are playing a euro qualifier on Thursday.
CALTON TONGUES 👍
this may or not be true, i worked for a company in the gallowgate about 15 years ago called abbey flooring, we got a job laying a floor at ibrox stadium, before we were allowed in me and my mate pat mcalinden were asked if we had any religious arttifacts on us we both had crucifixes round our necks, we had to remove them ,after we had finished the job we were given a tour round the stadium, as we approached the copeland road stand,i noticed on one of the seats this inscription, jimthetim53 1690, could not believe it a former altar bhoy as well, true or false ,you decide,
Big P- I know a few guys who done the roof at Murray Park,loads of crucifixes,holy medals,Celtic tops and scarves, are buried there
Didnae realise Pat was only 25 when he left us but 3 leagues, 2 Scottish cups and a league cup was a good haul in that time with us. A wee bit of Pat’s steel wouldn’t go amiss about the team today. R.I.P Pat you served us well.
Wasnt the roof crumbling at the Bigotdome?
Perhaps, it was collapsing under the weight of all the crucifixes that were buried in the roof?
Wait until the Health & Safety guys get there …’wtf… its like bloody Lourdes here!’
…. Celtic have had a few bad injuries these last few seasons… maybe we should build a few more medals and crucifixes into Celtic Park and Lennoxtown …
did you know that since 2010 there has actually been a patron saint of footballers? St. Luigi (not Macari …Scrosoppi)
MIKE, how are you pal, hope you and seamus are well, i wear my crucifix round my neck with pride, and woe betide anyone who tries to stop me wearing it,H.H.
Glasgow derby game confirmed to take place on Saturday 17th Oct with 12.30 ko
Simple Minds concert at Ibrox, a crowd of us from Knightswood and Partick took rosary beads and holy medals with us. Dug a few holes on the Ibrox pitch and buried all the blessed holy relics, deep under the turf. Would love to think they are still there.
That’s probably why they got the pitch re-laid recently!
jimthetim43 cant believe you have come on the blog, after me outing you as a season ticket holder at ibrokes 😎
There have been a few Ibrox pitches since 1986. Always thought it was a strange line up at Ibrox. Simple Minds, Waterboys, Lloyd Cole and In Tua Nua. No huns would attend to see those bands. Reckon over 90% of the audience were Tims. Many wearing Celtic tops and flying Celtic and Irish tricolour flags. Amazing day in doomdome.
Packy, only been there once, never again, hated it.
We are doing okay. Hope you guys are doing alright, too.
Simple Minds and In Tua Nua, I get. Was never sure about Mike Scott’s allegiance… (grew up in Edinburgh, although he did move to Ireland, so that alone may be enough for the zombie hordes to hate him).
Lloyd Cole? One of my favourite singers, so would like to think he is at least sympathetic to us. However, I always understood that he was a Manchester guy, but never really interested in football. Fanatical golfer. Although, I’m assuming that Lawrence Donegan would have been a Tim, and his good influence may have rubbed off on old Lloyd.
JIM, probably went there about a dozen times before i moved down here, dont forget it was the old ibrox not the way it is now ,remember bobby lennox scoring a goal right in front of me, looked up at the rangers end, a big gap appeared i kid you not they were all fighting amongst themselves, i was really upset at that of course😎 aye that wull be right 😎
MIKE, all good here ,at the moment😎
Hope all are well. God bless all those with health issues or leas fortunate than ourselves.
Speaking of hidden stuff, a DeLorean owner found a little pro hunger striker etching in a very obscure corner hidden well out of view.
There was zero politics allowed in the factory, so that was a big no no, but I guess the man couldn’t help himself. Perhaps it was upon a hunger strikers death he was moved. Probably knew him.
Such an iconic car, yet such a pile of junk.
How thon swanky Yank got politics out of the factory is still a miracle.
Rumour is he convinced everyone jobs were the way to go, plus paid protection money to both equally. A win win everyone agreed.
I smell an article about DeLoreans one day.
Will text the uncles and cousins for any snippets.
A seven million striker? Could be to push through the Toney deal?
But seriously, we spend that much goodbye Eddy imo.
Have all the deals lined up now, and tomorrow night when we know the result make a move according to what happens?
Turnbull and Ekuban is ten million, add Hickey there’s more. Think of the wage increase there.
Four back for Tam, would cover the first year.
Cannae see all these deals coming off. Some maybe.
I would like us to target countries like Greece and Turkey more often when searching for signings. There’s value there.
hope you had a bath or a shower when you got home Packy! 🙂
JIM, both😎 😎
JIM , was at the ibrox disaster game in 71, think ive told you this, went with my cousin peter and my father, he met his brother my uncle tony both croy men, then they went missing lots of alcohol consumed😎 when jinky scored we left ,then an almighty roar from their end, heard lots of sirens going off ,but that was normal at those games, it was only when we got back to glenboig and seen all the people waiting for the supporters buses we realized something had happened, gratefully my dad had phoned my mum to say he was in croy miners welfare club and was ok .H.H.
a terrible day Packy, wouldn’t wish it on any support.
Evening all, Mahe think it may be a long slog this 10, I am all for Lenny, but his reluctance to change things quick enough scares me shitless at times
Defund the police
JIM, NO, it could easily have been our end.