Peter Lawwell – J’accuse !

Morning,all.

 

We’ve come a long way since the heady heights of Seville,have we not? Yet someone born at the start of that journey has only just reached the age where he or she can order a drink,so it isn’t that long ago,not really. My niece was already at primary school,and she still hasn’t completed her education,so definitely not that long ago. Heady days,when we scared the living daylights out of the very best in Europe-and why was that? Because we belonged on the same stage,that’s why.

 

No team scared us,and certainly not at home. And if our record away from home wasn’t quite as impressive,teams frequently had to resort to “the dark arts” to get the better of us. For instance,Turin and Seville itself.

 

Life since then as a Hoooopster hasn’t always been so rosy. Yes,I know fine well what we won that famous Year of Seville,and that we’ve won much more since-domestically,at least-but teams feared us then. We would get freaky bad results,but more often than not we absolutely destroyed the opposition. More often than not,they couldn’t lay a glove on us,and didn’t have a clue where to start with it.

 

And now this. Not only do teams not fear us anymore,they bliddy fancy their chances against us. And particularly in Europe,our results prove that. We’ve gone from Fortress Parkhead to offering teams the freedom of it. And not overnight either,I might add.

 

A decade ago we were throwing away three leagues in a row against,admittedly,a financially doped hunnery and all without a complaint about that or the “strange” issue of “honest mistakes”. Does anyone think Dallas would have lost his job through complaints from Celtic? He didn’t over Dougiegate,it was the poor patsy linesman,Steve Craven,who carried the can for that. No,Celtic ignored it like they ignored everything. It took Phil Mac to push that one.

 

And don’t start me on Resolution 12. Don’t start me on replacing Henrik with Henri Kamara-aw,ffs!-and that on loan too. Or dumping the high earners way too soon,the treatment of Bobo which left Gordon Strachan having to play Caldwell and McManus instead. Like Martin O’Neill,Gordon left with three titles in his locker. Both of their own accord,how strange.

 

Or the refusal to say a word while Tony Mowbray’s teams were getting kicked off the park,all but ruining the career of a fine man and at that time,a proven manager. A hard bloke who had suffered some dreadful blows in his life,but was left without support from his superiors.

 

We can run through the Neil Lennon years,of a refusal to renew Scott Brown’s contract when his first one ran out. Or the forced departure of Samaras and Ledley amongst many others. The forced departures too of Lenny’s assistants,Thommo and Mjallby,and the enforced placement of Ronny Deila as assistant. Which led to Lenny calling it a day and the assistant taking the top job long before he was ready-and clearly without the necessary understanding of the strange ways of Scottish football.

 

Or the backing of the aforementioned superiors,bar actually shoehorning him into the job. At which he tried manfully,winning both titles he contested,but it was a job too far and a job too early for him.

 

Which leads us to the Brendan Rodgers era. And on the back of a legendary Invincible Treble in the year of our 50th Anniversary of Lisbon,BR went into the close season knowing exactly who he wanted-and needed!-to improve the team. Aye,Brendan. Didn’t take you long to discover who was boss,as it wasn’t just the players who went on holiday for the close season. And when the same happened again the following year-despite qualifying again for the group stages of The Champions League-he quite rightly decided he’d had enough. Aye,I was pissed off at the timing-check the archives for 26/02/2019 for an article titled Snakes and Adders-but I don’t blame him for leaving. I’ll never forgive him for the timing of it though.

 

Which brings us to the return of The Prodigal Son. The legend who is Neil Lennon,available and hired to push us over the line. He completed The Treble Treble to go with his three titles already,both as player and as manager. Against the wishes of some of us,he got the job full time. But he,as ever,hasn’t received the backing from his superiors.

 

One in particular.

 

The fella who joined us soon after Seville,and soon manoeuvred himself into The Big Panjandrum at Celtic Park. Who micromanages every single aspect of the running of the club to the extent that if he got run over by a bus tomorrow,the club would probably grind to a halt-because nobody else is allowed any responsibility. The fella who thinks he knows better than the footballing professionals and long ago promoted himself to de facto Director of Football,with every decision on contracts or signings at his whim.

 

The fella who manoeuvred our two best managers since Jock out of the door,hands over fan details to the police but won’t stand up for the club or the fans in the face of thuggery and cheating on and off the pitch. A man,in other words,who knows when to choose his battles and won’t take anyone on simply for the benefit of the people who turn up every week.

 

Someone who has no compunction about throwing managers under the bus,sells their best players,expects them to qualify for Europe with any old dross he gives them.

 

A man,in other words,who knows how to earn a bonus and has no compunction about how he does it. Who knows the cost of everything and the value of nothing.

 

Particularly not the values that we,the fans,associate with our famous club.

 

Peter Lawwell-J’accuse!

 

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Above article by BMCUWP

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Margaret McGill

You say you want a resolution
Well, you know
12 is the number we wanna go
You dont believe in evolution
Well, you know
Covid is at 19 as far as we know
But when you talk about malfunction
Don’t you know that you can count me out
All right, all right, all right
You say you got a real solution
Well, you know
We’d all love to see the plan
You ask me for a contribution
Well, you know
Its all because of that McCann
shite shite shite
whooooooooooooooooo

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

Fergus didnae sell his shares to the fans he sold them to DD and others. Fergus also said it was maddness for the huns to restart at the bottom he would never allowed them to be put out the top league i was shocked when i heard him saying this but knew where he was comeing from. p.s i am a big Fergus fan

Mahe

He asked the fans to buy in. They did in record numbers. He thought they would have a say, they got squeezed to the side.
He’s not happy at what he sees.

McCaff

Honestly Mahe, I need more time to consider that post! The current Board are a bunch of C U Next Tuesdays, we know that!! But they have the best interests of the plc always, over and above everything, that is their duty! I am a shareholder, I should be delighted!! But why am I not delighted, because I am a fitba man not a business man!
We have competed against the best and lost….but we’ve also competed in our recent history against very good teams and done alright!!! It’s like a game of golf, ONE shot in a round tells you you can be better and you hope/believe/wish/aspire/train harder/compete harder to make every shot of the same standard but you also know that you’ll never really hit the heights that you see other players/teams hitting!!

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

NANA,McCAFF

So,without the benefit of hindsight-like how much we’ve gone backwards since!-you suggest that we should fire perhaps our best manager in half a century,Brendan Rodgers,and replace him with a good organiser?

A guy who wins an Invincible Treble,replaced by a fella who gets lauded for getting Kilmarnock out of the perennial relegation zone?

Listen,I have so much respect for Stevie Clarke,and have done since I sat beside him in school,but there’s chalk and cheese. Revisionism is never a good starting point when discussing the way forward. Our club needs to think about that way forward,which includes avoiding the mistakes of the past. And pretending that this or that would never have happened if we’d only done that or this isn’t really the best way to start.

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

well he could have sold his 26 million pounds worth of shares to the fans but he did not and how do you know McCann is unhappy? Unless you are Fergus. All bow

McCaff

BMCUWP, I never asked for Clarke! I also don’t think I’m guilty of revisionism!!

Mahe

I thought this was a really good read on the cops here in US of A.

https://twitter.com/JurisDudence/status/1298683305844289537?s=19

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

Clarke is a better coach and tactian than Rodgers in my humble opinion.

Mahe

I got told bro.

McCaff

And Bobby….BR was in charge of our WORST ever Euro defeats, which does not sit well with me regardless of his Invincibles record!! And is also a reason that I think that the abuse that Lennon has taken is just a wee bit over the top!! No excuses for Lennon btw, but he is geting abuse that others in worse positions didn’t get!

Mahe

The fans didn’t have 26 million. They ponied up ten or twelve. A record.

McCaff

????Was that revisionism??? I don’t know?? 🙂 🙂 🙂

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

The abuse Lennon is getting is mental some of our own are doing the huns and laptop loyal jobs for them

McCaff

Mahe they didn’t get what Fergus wanted…which basically reinforces the point I made earlier that Fergus misjudged how much and how soon the support would/could raise the dough. I’ve never been a critic of McCann but the fact was his Moa-ist 5 yr plan was never goona work with the working man in Glasgow was lost on him…hence the 50% share uplift on the second Public Offering!

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

they had 5 years to save it . I am sure McCaff whould have waded in for a few thousand

Mahe

That’s true but the fact of the matter is we face life under PLC where football funds fat salaries and bonuses,
Or be an actual football club.

The latter I’m in.

McCaff

Nana…when the first issue was made, I was struggling as I’d just taken a bank loan for a wee business in Ru’glen and moved house and bought a second car!! So the shares were a luxury for me but I did it thru the Co-op bank where you bought the shares for £600 and repaid £660. I’ll interject with this song and continue my post in a mo…

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

How does this fan owned club become more successfull. We cant get more successful domestically we own that. So how do we do it in Europe. We are not a serious champions league team thats for the super teams now. We are a historic club in a small country and that fecks us

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

McCaff I hate to join a bandwagon but they are really good

McCaff

So…my mate had chucked his job and was studying Law. He decided to sell his to help his funding, unfortunately he had no parents to fall back on to support him. Anyhoo, Friday he sells his share – I can’t remember the price he got, say about £4800 for his £600 shares!! Superb return for his £600!! Saturday we’re going to the game and Fergus has sacked Jock Brown! We’re all ‘ Thank Feck, he was a prick!’ in the car.
Monday morning my mate phones, ‘What price do you think the shares are at today?’ ‘i don’t know, mate! How much?’ ‘£620!!’ He was fuckin gutted!!! By selling on the Friday and not the Monday he lost £1400!!!
He did better than me though, I sold a few years later for less than £3k!

McCaff

Who….Van T’s or Wolf Alice??

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

McCaff the Fats and Pregoblin are makeing a remake of the shawshank redemption they have been sticking it up on instagram

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

like them both but wolf alice seems to be the bandwagon

McCaff

Nana/Mahe..fan ownership as desirable, and as fitting as it seems to a club like Celtic, is unrealistic unless there are serious changes in the running and the financing of the game! So far there have been no indications that things will change for CFC to suit fan ownership.

McCaff

Nana, you’re years behind but I’d agree Wolf Alice are a good band! Really good live!

McCaff

Mahe

The club isn’t aiming for European success for a start.
With almost double turnover the nearest, the league and cups should be honing the team for Europe.
Our expectations have been lowered enough to see the league as a good victory yet with double turnover that business should naturally trounce it’s rival.
Our PLC overcame the masses concluding that by having friendly outlets say it was very tough being us, and create a race by not tearing as far ahead as finances allow, hence the 40 to 50 million in bank.
Can’t compete in Europe is/was the cry yet a lot of teams in knock out stages of Europa don’t have our turnover.
How does that square?
Seville have cornered the Europa league, there’s a template.
Bayern are a template for a successful members club.

There’s a new direction needed. Next guys will plot that course. I hope we like it.

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

the euro league will happen the big clubs want more money as always. the hedge funds will take it over

Mahe

Gotta roll gentlemen. Cheers for the chat.
Hail Hail

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

they passed me by like a lot of things in life especially when i played in goals

McCaff

Mahe, the Bayern model is not as simplistic as it appears!! They’re bankrolled to a hug degree by three massive corps – Adidas, Alliance and Audi!! How they got to be Member-Owner is also unclear. So although it looks like a fantastic model it would take decades, imo, to reach the level of corporation and professionalism they’re at!! Just my opinion of course, and I’d be delighted if someone could prove me wrong by taking the project to the next level!!

McCaff

Nana… 🙂 🙂 🙂
Never admit yer shortcomings!!!

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

McCaff All germans clubs are 51% owned

McCaff

The Bayern model is a bit different, it’s owned by the Club (75%) then their Partners – Adidas, Allianz Healthcare and Audi – own 75%. I tried to investigate where the wealth came from but it seems to be fully merchandise, match day sales and media royalties!

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

Bayern are a super club. Biggest club in Germany population 90 million. they are not happy with the tv money the epl clubs get and want more of it so the euro league will happen.

Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

Some no bad sponsers lol. They are paying Sane 22 million a year for 5 year contract

Mahe

Perhaps Awe Naw will explain if the Bayern model could be transferred or replicated.

Oiche maith

Mahe
Nana Mouskouri C.s.c

if Mahe article hisnae got any word on us signing Messi I am no reading it

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