Someone hide the typewriter

In a land that is accustomed to regularly biased sometimes outrageous statements, given the timing and feeling amongst the support, this one will take some time to be beaten.
It was the wrong words, at the wrong time, from the wrong person.
And it was totally unnecessary in my view.

 

After Sundays defeat we had the Celtic tv interview with Lenny, then we had the Celtic Park gathering, which brought forth a tweet from the boardroom which considered deflection.
Then we had the Records correct claim that DD wouldn’t take the plunge because of what they see as flourish mob behaviour, and yesterday seen the Captain plus big Christopher Julienne rolled with positive vibe interviews.
So with no real news to impart, and plenty enough interaction going on so as not be seen as hiding, I see no reason whatsoever to issue this statement in the first place.

 

Peter certainly did. With no imperative,tensions running high, every word scrutinized, the chance of super spreader events, IF one feels the need to open one’s mouth, then be extra careful with what is said.
But no.

 

Strength in Adversity is not a phrase Im accustomed to, not one I would use, and frankly smacks of a different mindset.
‘Strength in numbers’ and ‘Unity is strength’ jump to mind but never this particular saying.
‘All in this together’ or ‘United we can succeed’ would have connected much more with the rank and file fan, exactly who needs reassured right now with positive actions and not unwise words.

 

And what Adversity exactly?
There’s no gathered enemies we need to resolutely face, no attack from those who would revel in our demise, no bogey man.
There’s no adversity, there’s a trail of incompetency and complacency throughout our entire institute that has lead us to the point of squandering our hard built advantage. After year’s and years of being told all is fine. It’s a travesty that would be comical if it wasn’t so serious.

 

And then the very first line irked me.
‘Like all those with Celtics best interests at heart’ are fine fine words.
You recently advised all that voting against Res11 and before that Res12 was not in the companies best interests.
So who’s best interests exactly do you represent, as both aint cutting it and what happens when those interests clash, who prevails? Let me guess, not Celtic.
It’s debatable whether our interests do align to be honest, being as far removed from the rank and file as one could get.

 

The statement itself can easily be seen as a mistimed ‘Cmon now’ which only serves to antagonize when that happens to sum up the very feeling we have regarding boards actions, or lack of them.
It also somewhat ironic that the man shouting Cmon looks sure to be leaving soon.

 

Throwing up past glories is cheap when one of the tenets of football is you’re only as good as you’re last game.
Hiding behind the upcoming Cup final, something which may well see the ship run aground if a new Captain is not found, also shows a lack of understanding.
‘Early part of the season’ and ‘long way to go’ ring very hollow when it’s now December, and the form of our last ten games suggests we will win nothing.

 

Claiming the supports real concerns are being heard by the club raises eyebrows, as I must ask how exactly are they listening. Reading the comments under their tweets or the blogs every morning?
I would love to know how they consider themselves to have their ear to the ground, finger on the supports pulse.
Never ever gave me that impression before. Fans would have loved the bent refs tackled, anyone listening to concerns would know that.

 

The club is ripe for a restructuring, recent events will not only have highlighted that but hastened it. It’s clear we need a Public Relations department when that happens. Many would have wished for it, many more just did.

 

‘Moving forward together’ is wishful thinking at this stage, perhaps an oxymoron.
Do your jobs and we shall see.
Put Celtic first could easily be thrown right back at the boardroom.
The fans fully delivered for this season, wish the rest could say the same.

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Big Audio Dynamite

Incompetent and complacent? Sorry, I’m not buying that! Now, if you’d said planned, I’d bet everything I have you would be much closer to the truth.

Do you know any incompetent billionaires?

Big Audio Dynamite

Scottish football needs this hatred …it’s all they have to offer us as a product.

Where I come from, a lot of young men have been slashed, stabbed and murdered, all because of that hatred! This tells me how much these b@stards care about us.

The Old Firm will be here long after we are all gone. Sickening!

Dharma Bam

If only Celtic had installed lots of CCTV cameras, then surely there would be a good chance the club could release redacted footage of the cars etc being hit?

GER57

BAD,
It needn’t be like this. Several other small countries like Denmark, Czech, Croatia have better performing national and club sides than Scotland. The bigotry only serves to bolster one team, yet we play along for the sake of £10m pa. Figure courtesy of PL in 2012. Say that has risen to £20m now.
We can’t continue to subsidise this.

Noel Skytrot

The cabal simply aren’t getting the current mood among the support and appear to be suffering some sort of football related myopia.

Thursday is a dead rubber, but imagine what may occur if we don’t beat St Johnstone on Sunday?

GARRY,
i’ve not saw you on for a wee while, I hope yer well along the road.

fan-a-tic

Patronizing Pete doing his best Comical Ali impression.
Difference is the PLC’s very own actions has opened people’s eyes to the dereliction of duty and collusion in the Old Firm shakedown.
An onslaught of lies and drivel by them will only compound their previous failings.

m6bhoy

BAD, I agree that the current business model is predicated on the Old Firm/Glasgow Derby/Bigot Pound but sadly there is a significant section within the club’s own supporters who buy into that which is why the club can charge £49 for matches against them. Maybe there’s chance you can get rid of the current board but I’m not sure how you get rid of the Old Firm mindset within some Celtic supporters.

Big Audio Dynamite

Ger57, I couldn’t look myself in the mirror if I continued paying for this farce to continue. I’m just venting cause I have nothing left other than anger.

fan-a-tic

m6bhoy
An honest competitive rivalry would be acceptable to the majority of our support.
Competition is necessary for a sport to thrive.
Unfortunately in the best wee country other factors come into play.
The defiance of our support is understandable in the context of our history.
That some are fixated on the Old Firm model is disappointing.

Big Audio Dynamite

M6, the moment 000s paid that amount to wrestle with a corpse, I knew that the football club I grew up adoring, no longer (If ever) existed anymore.

And when you sell your soul to the devil, there is always a price to pay.

Noel Skytrot

Is it only me that thinks that the board are at war with the supporters? I know thats strong wording but when they’re using the likes of Jackson and other “journalists” to back them up and push the party line for them through the media something is far wrong, those feckers hate everything we stand for. For me personally, it looks like a struggle for the club is beginning and I hope all supporters realise what’s at stake.

Fuck off CSC

A thing of beauty

Looks like zinedine zidane is just a better dressed neil
Lennon.

Noel Skytrot

ATOB,

Ooffttt, scorching remark. Lol

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BIGAUDIODYNAMITE 642

“Do you know any incompetent billionaires?”

Good point-though there a few incompetent former billionaires. Same as former stock market darlings,or ex-politicians once judged as a certainty for high office.

Etc.

The Emperor’s New Clothes springs to mind.

m6bhoy

BAD/GER57

Something fundamental needs to change in Scottish football to break the Old Firm business model which is bad for the development of the game in Scotland and acts as a breeding ground for the stain of bigotry that exists in Scotland. I can still remember when Aberdeen and Dundee Utd were the best teams in Scotland and there was real competition in the league. The Old Firm were replaced by the New Firm and along with Hearts, Hibs, Dundee ,and Dundee Utd. the game in Scotland was at its best I can remember. Sadly, that era is gone and no other team outside the Old Firm stands a chance of ever winning the league. Perhaps the SPFL could go down have end of season play-offs where all the teams in the top six start on zero, play each other home and away and the winner of the mini-league would be champions. That at least would give smaller teams a chance of becoming champions and breaking the OF stranglehold which is a curse on the game right now.

Angel Gabriel

Mahe .
Excellent article.

On another note, I see on the Timtermet that last season’s refund is still available for the games we didn’t attend.
I didn’t apply for a refund last season as Covid hadn’t affected my income, ( only my lungs and everyone else in the boozer when I returned from 3 days at Cheltenham ) and I thought the club had suffered from circumstances they couldn’t prevent.
Sheer frustration, magnified by a pointless statement and no plan B , is making me that think that , hitting these imposters in the pocket might be worthwhile.
I’m actually seriously questioning myself on whether I’m being spiteful towards something that’s emotionally important to me .
There in lies the conundrum. We’re emotionally and financially attached to something we’ve no say or influence in .
That’s the case with the supporters of most clubs.
With myself I can cope with watching a team be abysmal and dysfunctional.
There’s a perverted intensity not being confident in winning any game . It takes me back to 30 years ago .
Low expectations aren’t a bad thing. It’s sport after all .

Knowing that the highly paid custodians have done he haw to address proven cheating. Or show any motivation to be nothing other than be one step ahead of cheats, brings out other emotions.
Mainly anger and disbelief. Especially from a position of strength.

They’re so out of touch it’s scary.
Hitting them where it hurts , might cause them to question themselves but I doubt it .
Scunnered CSC

McCaff

Angel Gabriel…re the refund if I remember correctly a deadline was placed on the process, presumably so that Celtic knew exactly what it was goona cost them over the piece. And they then changed the terms and conditions for this year’s, and presumably future years, ST sales.
You got me thinking about where we were 30 years ago; this is in the days before STs were generally available, I was working in East Lothian and would go to whatever games my shifts allowed. Sometimes this was a mad rush home from work to get changed, jump in the car and arrive just before or just after kickoff! Then negotiate traffic back to the East Coast in time for bed for a 6.30am start. This was early 90s and the team were shit! Oftentimes I told myself that I’d had enough, no way was I doing those midweek trips to watch that crap! But, as I still do, I find it hard not to want to go to see the Tic. Even when I know we’re crap, or expect to get beat, I still go or I still watch on the telly or on the worst stream you’ve ever seen…I can’t help feeling the way I feel. And I understand all the talk of starving the Board by witholding the most valuable commodity.
I was texting a mate a couple of days ago and the subject was Celtic, of course! My view is that we’ve been in worse places than this, it’s definitely not pleasant but we’re nowhere near as bad as we were 30 years ago!

McCaff

After posting I clicked on another site to see the refund IS still available…those feckers! Make me look a C U N Tuesday every time!! 🤡

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Just had a call from a mate who has been in the pub today.

No-one can join your table unless they enter the pub at the same time. Alcohol only available during the process of ordering and eating a meal. Limited to three pints.

However,if you are only on soft drinks,none of the above apply. Clearly there is an assumption that alcohol spreads covid,despite the fact that it is demanded that you drown your hands in the stuff on the way in. How confusing…

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Angel G,
Excellent post. That is how I am feeling at the moment. My daughter spoke about the refund still being available last night after the statement and I said no as I would be harming the club but know what I am so sickened by their actions I am thinking seriously about it.

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ATHINGOFBEAUTY,ANGELGABRIEL

If you don’t need the money,then you would be requesting the refund as a protest. The club may even ask you for your reasons,in the same manner that most organisations do when a contract is cancelled. That should be fun.

Also,for anyone in the same position,if you feel the slightest bit guilty about requesting that since you don’t need the money,there are plenty of deserving causes out there. REBUS mentioned one yesterday,but there are others closer to home. What anyone does with their own money is none of my concern so make the choice that you feel is right.

McCaff

Bobby, ATOB and Angel…I had decided I would NOT request a refund as, in line with ATOB’s thinking the Club culd/would be in a dangerous place re ordinary running costs/team investment etc.
When the SFA surreptiously announced the end of the Res 12 stuff from their point of view and that the cost of taking it further would be prohibitive that was enough for me! I decided then, probably spitefully as you suggest, that the cash was better in my pocket than theirs!
As Bobby says, there are loads of deserving causes out there and you don’t have to look too far to find them!!

Mike in Toronto

BMCUWP

After your comment last night, I popped onto CQN this morning. James Forrest seems to be waging a one man war over there, calling out P67, and ins’t half getting dog’s abuse for it!

Billy Bhoy

Angel Gabriel (1151)
Absolutely brilliant post mate. Some well thought out views there.

I’m now in a place where I’ve decided that for the first time since 1998 I won’t be rushing to renew my ST.

I’d actually love the fans to turn their back on this ritual and go back to the pay-as-you-go model. It would, at a stroke, eliminate the Boards ” well, we’ve got your money now so you can piss off with your protests and demands”. It would overnight make them much more accountable. Well, lets be honest, they couldn’t be any LESS accountable could they?

Its time to remind them that it’s OUR club and that the “Customer Is King”!

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MIKEINTORONTO

I’m not his biggest fan,but he isn’t known for holding back. If,as I expect,he has a certain coterie on his back then he is doing something right! I think he has been too close to the inner sanctum previously,and said as much-he hammered me for it,btw!-but his heart has always been in the right place. We usually had the same opinion,just not always the same reasons for having it,nor the same thoughts on the way forward. IF he has been invited inside-and I have no reason to disbelieve his denials of that-then his relentless attack on the board is all the more admirable.

Sol Kitts

BMCUWP 105
Just realised that this year more alcohol has touched my hands than my mouth 😎😷

Rebus67

I really enjoyed the editorial today. The last wee while has been a Damascas moment for me and my assessment of what is really happening at the club.

I used to believe that Celtic was a well run club, fiscally at least. Now I am firmly in the camp that PL has to go. The manager needs to go as well but without a restructuring of the CEO/DOF roles, Celtic will be stuck in a cycle of underachievement, especially in Europe.

PL has cost the club millions through lost opportunities by either appointing second rate managers or restricting competent ones.

Checkout the latest Diary on Etims for an expose of the current situation, assuming it is true.

Some may say I am late to the party but slow and methodical says the tortoise! He needs to go but will he? Previously, I say no chance and that is still the likely outcome. However, if the Etims piece is true and PL blocked DD’s recommended managerial shift of MON and RK, then perhaps we shall see sparks fly.

This particular light bulb going on above my head has done nothing to either draw me back to tge club, or lift my mood.

Rebus

JimmynotPaul

Something that slipped under my radar, the 90 minute cynic, guys, appear to have had their press privileges withdrawn at Celtic.
How disgusting is that? The snakes at The tabloids etc, who hate us with a passion can still attend, though, as they will be still be useful to Lawwell.
I’ve mentioned previously, it was the 90 minute cynic ghuys, who made me realise how different things ( that’s me being kind ) would be under Neil.
The cynic guy ask questions, like Italian football journalists, tactical questions, rather than soundbites.
Brendan Rodgers would wax lyrical about why he made a change and the thought process behind it, like how it affected the oppositions ability to do X any Y or allowed us to do A and B.
The guy asked Neil, a simple enough question, what was your thought process behind moving someone from a to b. Neil wasn’t happy, you could see, he thought his authority was being questioned by a podcaster.
His response was I was trying to win the game, at that point, the other journalists laughed, Neil appeared more comfortable with their inane questions.
The following week the guy tried again and again Neil didn’t appear comfortable.
This has gone on for a few months, last time the guy asked What is the role of the coaching staff, or words to that effect? Neil was raging.
Now the ghuy is no longer receiving his press invite, that’s the last I heard.
Pathetic, but as many of you have said, keep in with The Record, The Sun, BBC, STV because they sell the Old Firm brand.

JimmynotPaul

BMCUW.
James, himself, said he came away from the inner sanctum ( or words to that effect ) because, he would go in with all these fans ideas, points of views etc, but Peter Lawwell would say, I hear you but I’m doing it my way.
If ever a story rung true, it’s that one.

Oglach

Club 1872 now the largest shareholder group at Sevco after King sells his 20% stake in the new Ibrox entity to the supporters group.
Sevco FC becoming a fan controlled club??? Who’d have thunk it 😮

Regarding the refunds. If you feel a bit guilty why not deposit the refund into the Celtic Foundation. That way you are transferring it to a good side of Celtic.

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REBUS67

I meant what I said yesterday. Details would be nice. I promise not to put them in public view. If others wish to donate,we can maybe figure a way round that which doesn’t compromise personal details.

Bobby, I was going to use Pay Pal, as you can choose the currency if I remember correctly eg Canadian Dollars. I used Euros for TET’s appeal.

McCaff

Oglach..late last night I posted this article from the Scotsman. It seems to me like a punt by King to enable and encourage the sale rather than a done deal. And by the way, if they manage to become majority shareholders of their Club, legally and honestly, I’d say well done to every fan who contributes to make it happen. Wasn’t that one of the reasons The Bunnet’s issue, primarily the first one, was so successful, because the ordinary fans thought they could have a real part of the ownership of the Club! Certainly that was my thinking.
https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/rangers/dave-king-ready-accept-ps23-million-loss-he-agrees-sell-his-rangers-shareholding-club-1872-3054345?itm_source=parsely-api

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SOLKITTS

Aye,indeed. But from the looks of it,the mouth will have a good while to catch up. I need to go in to town in the next few days for a few things and not looking forward to being asked to leave after three pints. I don’t know anyone who goes to the pub just because you can drink there,it’s about so much more than that. And not being allowed to sit wi yer pals-or anyone!-and have a catch up,a laugh,a disagreement,it isn’t worth the effort to even get out of the house in the first place.

Pity is that they brought in the new rules a month too late. Back then,I could have bought a few past their sell by date Hallowe’en masks and pretended I was someone else every time I went to the bar.

Mike in Toronto

Big Audio Dynamite
Ger57, I couldn’t look myself in the mirror if I continued paying for this farce to continue. I’m just venting cause I have nothing left other than anger.
***

Not a shot at you pal, but I’m not sure I believe that 100%.

I say that because I suspect that you and I are of a similar mind/at a similar place vis a vis Celtic. I am sickened at what it has become…. and I think that for that club, given its history and its constituents, to get into bed with anti-Irish and anti-Catholic bigots is deplorable… and for that reason, I could not consider myself a supporter… but, for some reason I linger …. I like the people and the good company here, for sure … but there is something more …. there is still a small, faint, hope that perhaps I wasn’t completely a fool when I thought Celtic actually meant something, and maybe it still can…

and in spite of being a grumpy, cynical old bastard, I guess there is still a small part of me (and I suspect, you too) that believes the patient isn’t 100% dead, but mostly dead (in a Princess Bride sort of way)….

That was supposed to read like a ‘I am Inigo Montoya’ thing… but makes me sound more like Princess Buttercup

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McCAFF

He is getting out at 20p a share. How much do you reckon the shares are really worth? They have issued so many shares since he originally bought them that simple arithmetic dilutes their value by 80%,and that doesn’t account for the losses in those five years which amount to over twice the company’s alleged value at the time.

Quite honestly,it is a scam by a boilerroom scammer,an expert in his field with vast experience. As long as your arm,to coin a phrase.

McCaff

Bobby… completely agree, a pure scamster! How much are their shares worth…really nothing in a Company has accumulated losses of £100m perhaps in 8 years. But if as a fan you get a chance to have a major say…you’d take the bait I reckon!!

Rebus67

Yesterday I was gobsmacked by offers of help for families in my town for Christmas. If I ever needed any evidence that good people supported Celtic this was it.

I have been in touch with the organisers of the effort and all of the families have been supported or have received promises of support. So, thank you for your kind thoughts which exemplify what this season is all about.

Even although our local effort is under control, perhaps there is some value in outlining the situation so that bloggers can get involved in their own communities to assist those in need.

Last year was the first year that I became aware of an organised local effort to help local families at Christmas. It is organised by local school teachers who have children of needy families in their classes. They accept money, unused gifts and food or food certificates aimed at particular families. The families specify the needs of individual children in their household……clothes sizes, requested gifts. In normal times either a donor or a teacher goes out and shops for a family. This year the teachers are doing all the shopping because of Covid concerns. Food and gifts are delivered a few days before Christmas depending on the capabilities of the households.

It is not a registered charity so there are no tax receipts. The organisation wants it to remain as the community helping its own so they do not want to formalise it.

Prior to last year, we always sought out a needy family and asked them what they needed. We would do the shop for them. For a few years we had a single mother and two wee boys who were aged 4 and 6 initially. It was an excellent excuse for buying toys! We found the family through a daycare and used them as an intermediary so that both the family and our identities were confidential. You can find needy families through local churches, social services, daycares, schools and word of mouth. Some local churches/chapels organise a block Christmas dinner and accept donations towards that.

As Bobby said yesterday, the advantage of this method is that all of your contributions go to the cause and nothing to adminisfiddling. Another advantage is that you can be as involved as you like. Buying gifts or simply giving gift vouchers. When we have felt lazy we have given gift vouchers plus cash for taxis so that people can get to and fro the shops in comfort. We got such positive feedback from our anonymous single mother family that we glowed throughout the winter.

I hope some of the above is useful to you and that you will be able to help those in need in your communities. Sadly, there are more than usual this year.

Rebus

m6bhoy

McCaff @ 12.13pm. A few years ago, I decided to put distance between myself and the club I had followed since the mid-sixties because I came to the sad conclusion that the team now existed to support the PLC and not the other way round as it was meant to be. I still wanted them to win but mainly because many family and friends still supported the team and wanted them to be happy more than they were sad. I can still remember how weird it felt, the first Saturday afternoon I walked along Argyle Street watching scarf clad supporters walking in the opposite direction towards Parkhead. Since then I have made the same walk on the last couple of times I visited Glasgow and it no longer felt as strange. I have gone from being my extended family’s most uber supporter regularly travelling up from the West Midlands for matches to being the least interested not even bothered to watch matches on TV except some edited highlights. I have found life outside Celtic quite liberating and I have taken up many other interests which I wish I had started years ago. I enjoy dipping in and out of this site because the quality of the discussion is of such a high standard. I would never suggest anyone has do what I did as everyone has to do what they feel is best for them. All I am saying is, the other side of Celtic is not quite the abyss it might appear.

Ayrshire Bhoy

JimmynotPaul

The Cynic podcast up today, very emotional angry podcast well worth a listen. Basically repeating everything people on here are saying. Have to admit other than CQN the rest of the online Celtic community are singing from the same hymn sheet.

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REBUS67

Wonderful stuff,sir. And a good pointer to where we should put our good intentions-to good use!

I could,as you suggest,donate to a local school,but even after nearly twenty years here,I don’t have the affinity with the place which it demands. My affinity is nearer to home,and so too will my donation be. Fortunately I know just the person to send it to,and she won’t be allocating it where it isn’t deserved.

Thank you for reminding me of something I had forgotten to do for too long.

HH

McCaff

Rebus…I returned to being a Churchgoer when my wife fell pregnant after a few years of disappointment, more in support of her than myself really but then I realised I did get something out of it. I’ve never been sure what that was but it made me feel good for the rest of the day at least!!
When my daughter came along and then her sister we realised that at Christmas the kids who attended Mass were asked to bring along a gift for a similar aged kid – a wee girl of 4 would bring a gift for a wee girl of 4 etc. I thought this was a brilliant initiative, the gifts I presume were delivered to Nazareth House next door to the Church.
In preparation for my oldest daughter’s First Communion we started attending our local Parish church and after a few years, when we became a bit more known, I suggested to the Parish Priest doing the same thing as there was no initiative there. Long story short, this year is the Seventh year of doing it and although it is a small project and designed to help our own wee Church/School community it is a wonderfully supported project that the Parishioners now expect to happen.
Like yourself I get a sense of satisfaction from doing it but my overwhelming feeling is that it could not happen, would not be possible at all without the support and generosity shown by everyone who donates.
The responses you received in after your post yesterday do not surprise me but they make my heart swell with pride at not only the people on here who offered to help but all of the guys out there who contribute, in lots of different ways, to help those less fortunate.
KTF!!

McCaff

M6Bhoy…good post @3.21.
I understand that other interests can easily replace things that you’ve taken for granted for a long time. I used to play golf as often as I could, before the weans turned up it was Saturday morning 5-a-side League then Saturday afternoon golf if there was nae game at Parkheid or we’d been unable to get away tickets. Those were the days!! I also agree that it can be extremely difficult to support Celtic, even when the times are good you know by it’s methods that there is always a potential upset on the next bend…and that is where we’re at now I reckon.
For what it’s worth, I’ve always wanted to fit Celtic into my life. And as MikeInTVLawyerland alluded to in his post to BAD earliermy feeling is EVERYONE who posts or lurks on here wants it, too! Otherwise…why the feck are you here? 😁

Mike in Toronto

McCaff

I’m only here because I am hoping that one of these days someone on here will introduce me to Clare Grogan.

🙂

McCaff

Sorry Bobby, I replied to you but the post seems to have disappeared!
How much are the shares worth? Virtually nothing, I expect, in an 8 year old company which has losses of £100m in it’s short existence!
But if it was your Club and you had a chance to play a small part in its future I reckon you would take it with both hands! I know I would.

McCaff

MikeInTvLawyerland…I look forward to the day when you and Chalmersbhoy meet up and sort out once and for all who is the rightful most deserving suitor of Ms Grogan…or even just a good ol’ threeesome!! 😳😉🤣

Mike in Toronto

Moderator …. surely that has to be a red card! Or at least a good flogging!

(and just to be clear… I mean the floggin is for McCaff…. not Chalmersbhoy and/or Ms. Grogan!)

Gordon64

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0wpLZ00_cAI Neil Lennon Media Conference

voguepunter

Did I ever tell you of the time I had Clare Grogan in the back of my cab ?
Clare…as I call her is as charming and attractive as you think bhoys, a wee darling.

HH :o)

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