AC Milan 4 – 2 Celtic



Another day,another drubbing. And that from the unlikely position of actually being two goals up at the San Siro! Quite clearly,this is a Celtic side which has simply forgotten how to defend. Tom Rogic and I Wanna had us in the driving seat within quarter of an hour with two excellent finishes,but around ten minutes later that lead had been cancelled out. The first one was from a free kick,foolishly conceded by Christie,and Barkas did as he has done so often this season,electing to second-guess where the ball was going before it had been kicked. As usual,he got it wrong.


The second came about from the ball cannoning around in the box with none of our players seemingly able to plant a foot through it. Laxalt eventually tried that but could only deflect it past the keeper. The third,just after half time,was about as perfect a summation of our defending this season as you are likely to get. Hauge just drifted down our right wing,everyone stood back and admired his silky skills and the nearest Barkas got to the shot was picking it out of the net. The fourth was a virtual rerun,Elhamed sticking out a foot like an out of step Hokey Cokey dancer while Hauge simply threaded the ball a few yards inside. The attempt by Barkas to block honestly had me wondering how this guy ever got a professional contract.


Some of our play elsewhere on the pitch was more like our old selves,but again we are allowing teams to get the ball forward at speed,with little from our midfield to prevent the defence coming under pressure. And we know how this defence copes with pressure.


It doesn’t.


Neil Lennon must be able to see the frailties in these two departments,but there is nothing that I have seen to suggest that weaknesses are being worked on. If he genuinely has no idea how to sort this,allow me to suggest trying drills. Maybe he could watch our games against the teams who play with ten men behind the ball,the ones we have ridiculed for years. Just look at how quickly they regain their shape when they lose the ball. When we lose the ball in an attacking position,the next Celtic player to touch it is usually when the keeper picks the ball out of the back of the net.


If the board are intent on persevering with the current management set up,I suggest they help them out by employing an experienced specialist defensive coach. Otherwise we might as well forget about the season. There are still a lot of games to go domestically,but barring a miraculous turnaround in fortunes,and in form in those problem areas in particular,we needn’t order much silver polish over the next few months.


A shocking state of affairs,and one which looks set to continue.


Above article by BMCUWP

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Margaret McGill
December 4, 2020 3:57 am

Results are in!

December 4, 2020 6:05 am

Time might easily prove me wrong with this post but there you go.

I got to thinking about the whole situation and an angle I hadn’t explored yet presented itself.

We might just have it wrong. We have been blaming Lenny thinking the players want him out and aren’t playing for him, that might be wrong.
What if the players, at least some of them, are hitting back at the club by refusing to play for them and help deliver the big prize?
Or in bar talk, fuck you Peter.

I’ve heard nothing btw, but would you put it past the man upstairs to have low or perhaps cancelled the bonuses?
Bobby is adamant he didn’t play the game regarding transfers ie sell with two years to go. If they true I like to think that’s terrible management as every person hired from five onwards should have been made aware this ten is the big goal, it’s a project with that as the prize. Every player should have been sold on that ten and chomping at the bit.
We don’t why, but the players clearly weren’t bursting a gut and Lenny admitted some wanted away. So as Bobby says their moves were blocked, showing that there was no unity on the quest for ten, no big prize awaits mentality. Looks like that goes for many a player.

Perhaps, just perhaps some felt very used by the club, which leads to a bad dressing room. But the cause isn’t Lenny.
Yet for Neil to say the truth would be to totally expose his players who he needs.

In essence Lenny is the boards shield against the players revolting, he is bearing the brunt of the players frustrations. Thus he himself has been hung out to dry in that respect.
A victim of decisions that aren’t his.

However there’s a turning point, and that’s when the fans actually show up getting vocal and visual despite the fact they aren’t supposed to. The players, who have not faced the support all season, collectively decide to pull the finger out, put the common good first and foremost, quite the bitchin and try.
Or,,, get ready for worse clearly because the fans are absolutely livid about this not trying so we hurt the club thing.

They now realise their mistake, collectively decide to pull the finger out, and that resulted in a much improved attitude versus the Milanese. I thought there were inspiring moments but some bloopers really cost.
And the goalie just doesn’t look a fit.

So either Im wrong, but looks like they are trying now, there is a bit of purpose about the camp.
I expect St.Johnstone to be a resounding victory as such. And these games versus lesser team’s to go as planned.

That’s the feeling I get. And it also explains the boards hesitancy to get rid of the gaffer, knowing he isn’t the root cause.

Time will tell. I thought we looked better.

Hail Hail
What Peter Lawwell has shown beyond any shadow of a doubt to anyone following the Res12 narrative is that he is deeply untrustworthy and if there is a malaise at play it starts there.

I would not want to work for someone like him. He sets the tone at CP, he sets the culture and we see the results.

Fortunately the message is beginning to get across and a refusal to renew STs until he goes will see him leave.

Keep an eye on the AGM and Res11 before the AGM for indications of what might be a road to redemption or the ultimate betrayal.

Lets hope the former is seen to be more in the Company’s interest than the latter.

December 4, 2020 8:25 am

I have taken about 4 hours to read all the posts from yesterday the posts about the Ibrox board and the fans killed or injured on exit 13 is tragic. How they acted afterwards disgusts me, and our owner waxes lyrical about how great that club is They have not changed they are still bent and we are letting them away with it
I have not watched the Milan game yet but from what I read some people say we have turned a corner I don’t believe it and if we do not make changes we will stutter until it is too late to win the league

December 4, 2020 8:32 am

There have been stories doing the rounds for years that John Kennedy is PL’s blue eyed boy. His snitch if you like.
I’ve often thought it’s probably just another of these stories that does the rounds, with little foundation.
However, if John Kennedy is our main defensive coach, one can only wonder if indeed there is substance to the rumour?
Whilst some are taking some encouragement from the performance last night, it only further cemented my opinion that in order to arrest this habit we have of looking likely to concede at practically every counter attack or set pieces we face, we simply must replace the defensive coaching team.
We are about to break the record for the highest amount of goals EVER conceded in the group stages of the EL.
One more goal will do it.
That’s an absolute disgrace, and yet nothing seems to be happening to improve matters.

We are not winning first ball, second ball, not going with the runners, ball watching and quite frankly look like we have a clueless set of defenders who in every match, regardless of personnel, appear as though they are playing together for the first time.
Every basic error it is possible to make, we seem expert in practising.

If Kennedy is the guy responsible, then I’m sorry but he needs to be shown the door now. There is not a cats chance in hell of us catching the huns this season regardless of who the manager is, whilst this sieve like defence is in position, though mentioning our “defence” and “ in position” in the same sentence reeks of irony.

So I ask again, what does JK bring to the party? Or is there substance to the spy in the camp accusations?

Noel Skytrot
December 4, 2020 8:50 am

I thought we were better last night for spells in the match but the defending was again poor. Its about time the defence started gaining some positional competency and learn to tackle. Barkas is getting a lot of flak and I wonder if the culture change, new club etc is the reason he’s still not settled. I know Stevie Woods isn’t in charge of signings for the goal keeping position but he’s a good coach and surely would be having a big say on bringing Barkas in. If they’ve no faith in him or Bain, why not give Hazard a dash?

December 4, 2020 9:14 am

Scoring 2 good goals neither means improvement or turning a corner.
Conceding 4 goals is a true measure of where we are.
Once they pulled a goal back any semblance of a team evaporated.
And the 3 rd goal was truly a sight to behold.
Frimpong chasing from behind after putting himself wrong side and El Hamed and McGregor charging forward like kids on a playground to also get wrong side allowing guy time and space to pick out corner.I don’t fault Barkas for that goal.
While we remain poorly coached our players instinct will be to chase and fixate on the ball.
Our spacing and positional play is non existent.
We need a coaching change now.

December 4, 2020 9:40 am

Repost from McCAFF last night…

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Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 10:29 am

Top GKs don’t ask for a defensive wall, then take a step to either side trying to anticipate where the ball will be going. Have no idea what he was thinking! Till then we could have been 4up!

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 10:33 am

No one any theories why Christie, having told the manager he wants to be elsewhere, is not only playing the majority of games, he is given one of the most important jobs in the team!? And is totally Jimmy White at it!

Celtic Champs Elect
December 4, 2020 10:35 am

Twists belated happy birthday hope you had a great day

JK. He is PL blue eyed boy and grass. I also heard a snippet he was a creep at one of the teams night outs

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 10:42 am

Radiohead – 2+2=5

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 10:45 am

Radiohead – Where I end and you begin

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 10:55 am

The Clash – Clampdown

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 11:04 am

The Cure – A Forest

A thing of beauty
December 4, 2020 11:19 am

So I see Nir Bitton is saying the players don’t deserve the stick they are getting from the fans. Is that right Nir? Let me give you a little background as to why the support are cheesed off with the players.
Do you actually understand what this seasons means to the fans? Because it seems to me that you don’t. I can use you as an example. You twisted your ankle and went off the park in an important qualifying tie. Your manager was sure that you would not play for your country in the subsequent international and said as much. But oh no, you knew better, went to the international camp, aggravated your injury and then caught covid. Well done Nir, clearly putting the club and support first there.
Ryan Christie: Ryan Christie goes to play an international and breaks covid guidelines by playing Xbox in his pals room. Result, misses the next two weeks for Celtic in which we drop five points. How does he motivate himself to keep fit in a season where he can make celtic history. That’s right by putting a slogan up above his treadmill saying euros 2021. Well Done Ryan, putting the club and support first there.
Odsonne Edouard: plays with a total lack of interest and has been rested frequently as he is fatigued yet turns up every game for France running freely and scoring for fun. Well done Eddie, putting the club and the fans first there.
Moi Elayanoussi: signs up for a second loan spell after stealing a wage from Christmas onwards last year and serves up the same dross again. Then decides he’d check a wee look at the scores on his phone while on the bench after another shite performance. Well done moi, putting the fans first there
Ollie Ntcham: Far and away the most gifted player in Scotland but actually cannot be arsed to play football. Strolls about thinking the league is beneath him but won’t put the effort in to get a move anywhere else. Unless it’s a European tie where he is the football equivalent of a sex worker in red light window. Except his body has forgotten how to actually perform there too because of his stinking attitude. Well done Ollie, putting the fans first there.
That’s all I have time for now as I am working. You know that thing people do to earn money so they can buy season tickets to pay the wages of players like you and your buddies Nir. Maybe if we thought you were all working the way we are we’d be a bit more understanding.

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 11:25 am

Big Audio Dynamite – Medicine show

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 11:26 am
Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 11:44 am

Glasgow Celtic have 1 centre-back on its books! Let that sink in.

Going for 10iar …aye!

December 4, 2020 12:17 pm


I wish I’d said that!

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 12:53 pm

Today’s message from the Fuhrer bunker : “They fought for their manager last night, commando Christie in particular”

the same guy who told the manager HE DOESN’T WANT TO BE HERE????

Treating us like imbeciles now!!!

Bada Bing
December 4, 2020 1:09 pm

Nine Dundee Utd players having to self Isolate for 14 days. Guess who they are playing within that period🤔?

December 4, 2020 1:16 pm

December 4, 2020 1:37 pm

A minor footnote to ATHINGOFBEAUTY’s earlier post.

All season,we have seen quality players playing well below their own capabilities-even as,as she points out,they can still perform on the international stage. There is a hunger to be on that stage,a desire to shine. That hunger and desire are not being shown for Celtic,and that’s the people who pay them the big bucks.

And what has pissed me off more than anything this season,and I’ve commented on it often,is that even if players don’t want to be here,even if they feel that promises haven’t been kept,particularly re the big money moves two years before a contract expires,there has been a complete lack of professional pride,an unwillingness to put themselves in the shop window.

That’s really personal and professional sabotage-that not only are they having a pop at the people they blame for denying them a move,they are wrecking their chances of one.

I’m genuinely flummoxed by this. Good players don’t become bad players overnight,there is usually a reason for it. But the only reasons I can think of don’t help their own personal circumstances. And while the stereotype of the thick football player,brains in his feet,still exists-wrongly,in my opinion-they employ agents who are far from thick.

I would love to know what has happened to that group. Even the drop in quality of coaching doesn’t come close to an explanation. But like so many things at our club,we will never know.

But I do know one thing. Any Celtic player who has been part of our recent run of form and who is happy with his performance for whatever reason is not a player I want near our team anymore. There’s a lot of fans with nothing to do at the weekend-they can’t get to the games after all!-who would at least know how to prevent a team from hitting us on the break.

Hamster in a wheel inside a cage and getting nowhere,what a bloody mess.

December 4, 2020 2:01 pm

Decline has been obvious for most of Neil’s tenure this time.
Lack of professionalism-check
Lack of aspiration-check
Lack of application-check
No support to hold anyone accountable-check
All of the above qualities have been in evidence for some time.
It has been coming and like the perfect storm all systems collided at the same time.
When i and a few others posted Celtic by numbers stats showing a decline in our stats we were dismissed,
Can’t imagine how bad they are now?
A non football bean counter in charge of recruitment,
A coach who was dismissed at his two previous jobs without any success?
Other coaches with no experience.
A plan to exit every transfer window in profit.
At no point does any of the above point to the footballing side being a priority.
I would say the season is playing out exactly as planned.

December 4, 2020 2:11 pm

A minor footnote to ATHINGOFBEAUTY’s earlier post

And what has pissed me off more than anything this season,and I’ve commented on it often,is that even if players don’t want to be here,even if they feel that promises haven’t been kept,particularly re the big money moves two years before a contract expires,there has been a complete lack of professional pride,an unwillingness to put themselves in the shop window.

Me too mate,any scouts looking in would give them a wide berth after this seasons shite

December 4, 2020 2:12 pm

Good morning folks and a big Happy Friday.
God Bless all those with health issues or less fortunate than ourselves.

I half expected to wake up to news, today would be the day to make a switch, so it ain’t gonna happen. Fair enough. Premiership money for the easiest call, that’s our guy.

Bobby, there’s a ton to this I reckon, but as you say we wont find out soon. Pity.
But I did think I seen shoots of improvement last night. Not from the sieve but the rest. Barkas can’t help that sieve, reports he and girlfriend aren’t settling one bit are no surprise.

If Frazer came back, and we totally should try and tempt him, that would be a major coup. But a new keeper is needed.
Their keeper was vocal and had a presence. Barkas is timid and seems in his shell, couldnt hear him when with no fans.

One defender, no keeper, on loan left back, can’t decide on right back. Meet the seive. Calmac venturing into central defense doesn’t help.
How can you win ten with that as your foundation? Great planning, EPL wages for that level of competency? I would have helped plan this campaign for free ffs.

Hail Hail

December 4, 2020 2:22 pm

Nir ‘We don’t listen to anyone outside the team,’

Great. Can’t take onboard your own supports thoughts? They do pay your wages.

Big Audio Dynamite
December 4, 2020 2:23 pm

We were always being told how we always aim to come out of each transfer window stronger than when we went in, eh?

But, we’ve went from Lustig, Simunovic, Boyata and Tierney To Frimpong, Bitton, Ajer and Taylor (Leave Laxalt out of this)

With everything else you say Peter, I’m guessing the above is a crock of sh!t

December 4, 2020 2:25 pm


Your take on tactics and stats are rarely dismissed by anyone on here. And as for CELTICBYNUMBERS,I’ve long been of the opinion that the club should track him down and employ him.

Frankly,I write the match reviews. I know fine well there are others more qualified to do them,that I miss quite a lot. I don’t miss everything though-because the only thing that stopped me from saying on Sunday that we could play all day here and not score was the fear of ATHINGOFBEAUTY blaming me when it became true. (She really hammers me for that,and when I’m right it’s my fault for saying it. Feng-shui,apparently!) We had all seen days like that in the past,it was one of the early lessons for newbies to us. Ask SOLKITTS and ATOB herself.

Match reviews are never a pleasure for me. If I get the details wrong,I look stupid. If I don’t mention the match but instead hit out at the overall display and the current buzzword of malaise,I look lazy. CBN and yourself do the hard yards with the stats-but they only back up my thoughts and the thoughts of most of us.

Point is,you can quote the stats,I can reflect the performance that I saw,neither is pretty. Yours are more specific than mine,neither of us is wrong.

But nobody is doing a bloody thing to sort it.

I don’t want to be right,you don’t want to be right. We just want Celtic to be winning,and we will deal with the other stuff later.

Ayrshire Bhoy
December 4, 2020 2:26 pm

So who is buying a Christmas jumper from Celtic PLC, c’mon you know you want to …

No comment on any pitch matters pointless me regurgitating the same stuff as I’ve said in the last 2-3 weeks, Groundhog FC are we!

December 4, 2020 2:46 pm

Lenny asks for no more protests claiming it’s not what the players need at the moment.

Mike in Toronto
December 4, 2020 3:15 pm


I popped on the other site today, and they are celebrating the other guy returning and BP being banned.

I know you guys have tried to keep the two sites friendly, and what goes on over there is their problem, but I haven’t seen BP on here, and wanted to make sure that he hasn’t been banned here (I know that isn’t the style here… but wanted to make sure).

BP… if you are lurking, get back on and let us know you are okay. You’ve still got pals on here.

December 4, 2020 3:17 pm

In theory the CEO of a football club/plc needn’t be an expert on football! He can indeed be a bean counter.
I remember reading about a guy, back in the 1970s I think, who had been in charge of British Rail. Then British Airways. He admitted he could neither fly a plane nor drive a train.

But what most CEOs do is surround themselves with experts. In a footballing context, given that PL is not an ex player or manager why is he not known for employing highly qualified and successful Directors of Football? DOF’s who are given a budget and KPIs. Then left to get on with it. It’s called delegation. No room for micro managing and daily interference.

Awe Naw mentioned recently that DD has a company which is a world leader in Hi-Tech stuff. Is DD highly experienced in this science? Not bloody likely! He employs experts. So why does he use a different approach with Celtic? 3 things I think.
The Irish connection, his EGO and it’s almost hobby like, he doesn’t have a huge regular stream of income from Celtic. Only interferes to get fellow Irish players and managers on board now & again.

He seems happy to let another egotist ,PL, do his own thing provided we don’t make huge losses. These two EGOs – a bad combination.

Bada Bing
December 4, 2020 3:21 pm

Fencing all round CP,that’s what it’s come to…..

December 4, 2020 3:30 pm

Just like the Whitehouse eh

Noel Skytrot
December 4, 2020 3:31 pm

Erecting fences around the stadium to keep the supporters at bay in case it goes off kilter at the weekend. Maybe they should shift them and use them as a defence on the park, it would certainly be better than what’s on offer defensively by the players. The board are really alienating themselves from the supporters with all this carry on, if we get beaten or draw on Sunday, I reckon supporters will be there again and the cabal will really feel their fury. They’re not getting this.

December 4, 2020 3:36 pm

If they were used to keep Lawwell,board,first team coaches and players out they could be useful.
McIntyre and his development squad would be preferable to the bunch of imposters we have been subjected to this season.

December 4, 2020 3:39 pm

If only Lenny was introspective he would realize it’s him and his coaching staff the players don’t need at this moment.

December 4, 2020 3:42 pm


I think we have only barred one multimonikered person on here. Our original plan was that the contributors could work things out for themselves,and that has worked so far.

BIGPACKY is as welcome here as he always has been. I’m not happy that he ventured onto CQN,because he isn’t welcome there. Our site and theirs only ever seems to have a problem when he does that,but he knows that it doesn’t affect his access to the site.

He has called me about it,so have some others. I don’t know whether people have been in contact with MAHE about it,but it isn’t a problem.

Occasionally I ask people to stop some silly stuff. Guess what?, They do. That is a wee bit of respect from our members.

I’m happy with that.

December 4, 2020 3:44 pm

Man the barricades!

Mike in Toronto
December 4, 2020 3:44 pm


There are arguments for and against footballers getting into running clubs …

On one hand, XPro reported that 3 out of 5 british footballers ended up in bankruptcy after retirement. While other stats show that for the NFL almost 80% of players are broke within 2 years of playing, while for the NBA, it is 60% within 5 years. Although, to be fair, most of these guys employ financial managers…. but the numbers suggest that the players’ role in that (wanting every new toy) cannot be ignored.

I agree that CEO’s dont have to be footballers, but I think it can help….

Remember, that because of anti-trust laws, most pro sports are not run on the same principles as other business …. so, running Walmart may not necessarily equip you to run Celtic … and being the accountant for rich people who buy sports franchises and then work their way up (which is how Woodward got into football… he was the Glazer’s accountant when they bought into Man U) clearly doesn’t guarantee success …

More and more footballers are moving in the direction of sports management, and doing advanced degrees after their playing days are over, with a view to moving into working for clubs. Chiellini, Juan Mata and Vincent Kompny all have degrees in commerce and sports management, I believe, and are starting to make ttheir way through the game. Van der Saar did a degree in marketing, and worked his way up in Ajax, and then did his mba (I think) at Harvard, and now runs Ajax. I have heard that he is being considered for the top post at Man United, if/when they reorganize (although they seem to have the same problem as Celtic, where they are run by Woodward… an investment banker who got involved in football as he advised the Glazers on tax when they took over Man U, and kept getting promoted. But, he was never really a football guy).

December 4, 2020 3:53 pm

It’s typical of the club now we get mixed messages.
Nir says we don’t listen to anyone else.
Lenny says it’s social media amplifying the negative vibes.
Peter says we are just keyboard warriors, Dermot says won’t give into the mob.

Who exactly is listening to who?
Social media is a very convenient scapegoat sometimes.
But it’s also all we’ve got in a lockdown.
Peter says the club are listening,,Nir says the team aren’t?
There’s no one on the same page at the club.
In this year of all years that’s a travesty.
Everyone should have one single goal, the big ten. But no.
Well run my arse.
Hail Hail

Mike in Toronto
December 4, 2020 3:56 pm


Thanks for that.

SC isn’t quite the same without crazy old Uncle BP.

December 4, 2020 3:58 pm

Scoring 2 good goals neither means improvement or turning a corner.
Conceding 4 goals is a true measure of where we are.
Once they pulled a goal back any semblance of a team evaporated.
And the 3 rd goal was truly a sight to behold.
Frimpong chasing from behind after putting himself wrong side and El Hamed and McGregor charging forward like kids on a playground to also get wrong side allowing guy time and space to pick out corner.I don’t fault Barkas for that goal.
While we remain poorly coached our players instinct will be to chase and fixate on the ball.
Our spacing and positional play is non existent.
We need a coaching change now.

You just reminded me, did Aberdeen not score after their lad waltz past three of our defenders in almost identical circumstance?

December 4, 2020 4:01 pm

Mike, yes I agree with what you are saying. I remember back in the day a lot of Scottish footballers would buy a pub on retirement. They would get a lift because of their celebrity status, but most of the pubs would be shut after a few years. They didn’t have a business head on them. And you don’t need a degree to successfully own a pub!

I’m not advocating our CEOs should have football experience, but regardless, they should be humble enough to admit they need help in that department. I’m talking about buying and selling players, coaches & managers, running the academy, support services etc.

Margaret McGill
December 4, 2020 4:14 pm

Yeez all seem to be a bit flummoxed at the current state of affairs. I’m not.
Since Willo Flood time I’ve been chanting the same paradigm:

1. Nice turnover
2. EPL fodder
3. Europe if yer lucky
4. Whit are the huns daein?

Celtic have a corporate money laundering criminal majority shareholder who apparently has become de facto voice box for all shareholders even though he owns only 35% of Celtic’s shares. The general public owns 19%. He has no interest in this anti Irish country.
If he did he wouldn’t be waxing lyrical about the huns.

Celtic have a narcissistic egomaniac barefaced Tory condescending control freak accountant (best kind to have for a money laundering scheme) as CEO who cannot be trusted. Basically a liar. The only one that trusts him is the major shareholder.

The whole modus operandi of Celtic is to make money for the shareholders in this footballing backwater via the football club. See #1 above. Celtic are an EPL fodder club. See #2 above. All players have been bought with a mind to sell on. This explains some players playing, some players not playing, many in positions already with too many candidates other positions a dearth of candidates. No squad structure. Domestically sufficient against inferior 3rd rate clubs.
Europe? Forget it. See #3 above.

The modern footballer is trained not only in the game but in the finances of their short careers as professionals and we have the temerity to complain about a bunch of primma donnas who only want to go somewhere else to make as much money as quickly as possible especially nowadays in the times of no fans, covid and a sport that doesnt give a fuck about them (e.g. Internationals during these covid times) and we expect them to give a fuck about Celtic’s history? The only reason they are here is because the CEO treats them like livestock.

The manager.
Cheap, available, fans love him, desperate and ticks all the CEO’s boxes. He’ll do.

So it turns out he didny. Players couldnt give a fuck that he has no tactics but that doesnt mean they can do it themselves. Not their job. What do you expect?

Now that the huns are back with a vengeance that brinkmanship retrospectively doesnt look so good now.
The chickens have come home to roost

Thats the way I see it. However, if there is another conspiracy going on i.e. an orchestrated OF connivance then the game is a bogey.

December 4, 2020 4:16 pm

Jim, that comment about pubs got me thinking there.
Been in many but know very little about how the trade actually works.

You may or may not know but would this be somewhat correct,,,
You buy either an establishment or a liquor licence, which is the big one,,about a quarter million or so.
But that gets you in the club meaning you get the trade price from brewerys, for instance the pint cost the bar about a third to a half of what he sells it for.
Pay the Vat and Taxman, keep the rest.

That how it goes?

Mike in Toronto
December 4, 2020 4:23 pm

I tend to agree with Mags …. this is all about money. Nothing but. Money disguised as religion, for sure. But, really … all about money. How the clubs can convince their respective fans, many of whom are struggling financially in these tough times, to throw it at millionaire players and billionaire owners.

And, sadly, I expect that most will continue to fund this charade…

I bet that, even with the Covid downturn, Celtic will sell out their season ticket allotment for next season. Hundred bucks to Mary’s Meals if I am wrong.