Celtic 1 – 1 St. Johnstone

Morning,all.

 

“The Good Ship Celtica” continues to drift rudderless as the crew look on helplessly and the captain of our ship runs about telling everyone not to panic. Sensible decisions have been non-existent at the club for about three years now,ever since our CEO and our then manager fought a destructive turf war,at first behind closed doors and then increasingly in public. As there was no way both could continue in their role,one person would come out on top-and the club would be the loser.

 

And so it has proven,yesterday being only the latest on-field manifestation of a catalogue of failure and ineptitude. You want to see inept? How about the defending for their goal? Or the response of our manager’s assistant when asked a question,his customary shrug being the response? Maybe even some of the simpler things like passing the ball? Aye,there’s the nearest thing to a hat trick we were likely to see yesterday.

 

That was the first time in ten visits that St Johnstone have even scored at Celtic Park,nearly as ridiculous a record as NL losing to Kilmarnock there since the fifties a few years ago. And the fact that few of us went into the game expecting a clean sheet tells you all you need to know about the current state of play.

 

Yet it was hardly a poor performance from Celtic,not by recent standards at least. Some incisive passes from CalMac to Eddie,which last season he would have been putting away. Some more cohesion in midfield,protecting our defence better than usual. Keeping the ball out of our area is a must,as we saw any time we didn’t succeed! Some tight passing in tight areas as we probed through the middle. But the problem is that it WAS a poor performance as none of the above was actually successful,and some of the rest of the play was truly awful,the sign of players playing with no confidence or belief.

 

NL threw the substitutes on at surprising times-Taylor for Laxalt at half time,for instance. Although Laxalt was probably still feeling the effects of a shocking challenge in the first few minutes-a probable red elsewhere,not even a free kick for us. Griffiths for Broonie after an hour,Turnbull for Rogic a few minutes later. Can’t argue with those,with Griff pulling their defence around in a way we had previously failed to do and Turnbull probably our most dangerous player after he came on. But regardless,we still didn’t look like scoring,short of some individual brilliance. Players who are low on confidence are unlikely to provide that. As we have been aware for far too long now.

 

So as you could probably guess,the goal when it came was for them,even if the assists for it were ours. A shocking ball in midfield left CalMac having to stick out an arm to prevent the break. The ball was headed out and four of our players converge to tackle the player in possession. He threads it inside the right back channel,the ball is whipped across goal,Barkas dissolves in a puddle and 1-0 them.

 

Admittedly Mo,just on the pitch,got an equaliser with a speculative-or brilliant!- header a couple of minutes later,but the damage was already done. About three years ago,as I mentioned at the top of the page. Yet many of the players then are still here now,they were wiping the floor with everyone then and are playing now like a bunch of disabled strangers,unable to do what once came naturally to them. It’s an old maxim that good players don’t become bad players overnight,and it hasn’t happened overnight either. It’s been building for a while,it has simply come to a head these last couple of months.

 

First weekend of December and already there is hardly a Celtic supporter who thinks we can win the title this season. A rudderless ship with Captain Hogwash at the helm. And now beyond salvage too,because no-one in their right mind would come near the place now. Two wins in twelve doesn’t lie,but those charged with halting or preventing this slide into mediocrity will point the finger elsewhere. Just as on the pitch,so off it-nobody willing to accept responsibility or step up and do something to get things back on track.

 


Above article by BMCUWP.

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Noel Skytrot

Bobby, ten in a row is over and the fans should be accepting of this and now turn all of our collective firepower onto the people at the helm who are responsible for this outrage. Sad, sad state of affairs at this moment.

BringoutthecannonsCSC

Noel Skytrot

I’m thinking of phoning my father today and discussing with him that we should maybe give our season ticket money to the Celtic Trust rather than those at the club just now.

TheTic

I am still numb. Hopefully there will have been white smoke over Celtic Park when I wake up in the morning

Big Audio Dynamite

The chances of the Trust’s leadership being completely above board? Zero!
The chances of you getting the change you seek? Zero!

Still think this all just happened naturally? Ok then!!

Mahe, I’m struggling with your swallowing of this, CST proposal.
Good honest Celts, will club together for 6 years, then they’ll offer to ‘buy’ the shares from, DD etc, and you think that’s the route to go down? In 6 years?!?!?
Why not propose a boycott of season tickets next summer?
You don’t feed a monster, you starve it to death.
Celtic supporters have bought a lifetime of shares from these creeps, and where has it got these supporters? Outside, looking in!
No PLC!
No board!
No CEO!
No shares!
First step, NO MORE season ticket trap.
Get the PLC board emptied, NEXT summer, get Jeanette Findlay in charge, NEXT summer!
6 years? Geez peace.
oot.

B.A.D. A poor leadership at CST is always a possibility. But if they get a large membership, each with an equal vote, they can influence who the leadership are. Reviewed at AGMs every year.

GER57

Don’t believe in excuses, but that rough stuff by St J should have resulted in at least two red cards. Then it’s a different game.
Of course the issue now is, who’s gonna be our new temp coach? I haven’t a notion.

Gordon64

KJ Your continued unhealthy misogynistic hostility towards JF is noted 🤔

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
Barkas has been vilified justifiably but yesterday’s goal was not his fault.
Look at the absence of midfielders in vital central area when ball was cleared at initial throw in by Frimpong and watch as Bitton walks forward and leaves his man.Julien made a vain attempt to cut out cross while Bitton did as usual and watched his man score goal side of him.
There’s a level of consistency about our failures.

Big Audio Dynamite

Jim, I’m not talking about poor leadership in the Trust, I’m talking about how it, along with everything else, is controlled by the board. Always think control, cause our board NEVER leave things to chance! It’s the reason the support were purposely splintered into the various branches you now see …divide and conquer! The most used tactic that anyone in a position of power uses to neuter any opposition.

You want to give your money that maybe, just maybe, the Trust can do something constructive with it in 5 or 6 years time!? Wow!

The only change we will see, is the change that is allowed … Anyway, hope you are well, fella 👍

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

FAN-A-TIC

I didn’t blame him for the goal,just his inability to be in a position to stop it. The main blame lay with the initial misplaced pass then the charge by four of our player,leaving an enormous gap behind them.

Of course,my recollection may not be 100% accurate! While I try to be,I simply can’t face watching the highlights directly before writing the article-watching once,in real time,is punishment enough. But if you can face that,have a look at him yourself during it…

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

BIGAUDIODYNAMITE

The latest initiative is the most viable one yet suggested. Of course there are potential pitfalls everywhere,so of course it might not work. But neither will doing nothing.

We’ve wanted change for years,so I think this should be looked at seriously.

The Gombeen Man

It’s like finding out your church is corrupt. Then the Labour Party and other political parties.Then Trade Unions.

There is No Cause, No Culture, No Calling.

Just branding. Cynical marketing.

It’s over.

Celtic, as we were brought up to understand them, are dead.

Football is dead.

The over egging of the death scene by the team is like watching a ham actor in a cheap B movie.

This is on track.
It was never off track.

At least we’ve been spared a neck to neck battle with Sevco.

The Celtic Trust? I last heard about them when they announced they were entering talks with Pedro about four years ago.

Very little since.

Apart from that, David Low and his guys bumping into the Sevco High Command at Turnberry about a year ago.

They’d have a long way to go before I’d give them a bean.

Revolutions tend to create a new bourgeois.

Oh well,

At least there’s Santa Claus to believe in and look forward to.

If you have the cajones, Walk away and don’t look back.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

THEGOMBEENMAN

“Apart from that, David Low and his guys bumping into the Sevco High Command at Turnberry about a year ago.”

AFAIK,David Low was at Turnberry on another matter when the Sevco contingent walked in. Small world,but no discussion was arranged,nor did one take place. If that is too much of a coincidence,then I can only say that I’ve been in many places where their players or other personnel have also been. It happens.

McCaff

TGM…or if you’ve the cajones for a fight just stay!!

Big Audio Dynamite

Bobby, as far as organisations like the Trust are concerned, who do you think will be their biggest influence? I’d bet everything I have, they have been in bed with the board since inception.

There is one option open to those brave enough to take it …keep your money for your own house & family! Keep handing over your money and you will get what you have always got ..nothing! No say, no input and most definitely no power!

I’ll tell you how I know this is all orchestrated …because nothing else makes any sense.

Some good news
I got my £10 Christmas Bonus from the government to day. Yippee!!
Only thing is, the bliddy pub’s shut 🙁

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
I watched it a few times as i remembered moaning about midfield and Bitton at the time.
Barkas was covering front post and ball went across 6yd box for backpost tap in.
Cross had pace and Julien tried to cut out to no avail while Nir watched his man score.
Goal was down to out of position players which as we all know is the norm.

fan-a-tic

If the views of the fans on here are a wide barometer then the board have already won with their long term divide and conquer strategy.
I think a total boycott is the only way to force them out.

Celtic1member1vote

We all have a choice when it comes to Celtic.

We can all either do something, or we can do talk all day and do nothing.

Whatever you decide to do, will be right for you.

And what others decide to do, will be right them.

fan-a-tic

Years ago when Fergus had control he sent David Low and Matt McGlone on a tour of Nth American CSC’s to put forward his strategy and aims with an expectation of fans funding share issue.
They visited the NYCSC of which i was a member at that time.
Low was bright and stuck to the financials.
McGlone was lording it up as his reward for involvement in Celts for change.
He had the i am a better supporter than you attitude.
They took turns at the mic to answer questions.
I asked McGlone that when Fergus was vying for control he stood on the front steps of Celtic park to hold a press conference pointed to his breast pocket and said when i get control i have 10 million in this pocket that will be given to the manager immediately to spend on the team.
So why wasn’t that promise kept?
McGlone had a fit of rage and never answered the question but got very personal about me and my supporting credentials.
A few members afterwards mentioned how out of order he was and unprofessional compared to Low.

bournesouprecipe

Two wins from twelve is a pretty dramatic fall from grace even if you post safely from inside the Sentinel happy clapper brigade. Neil Lennon was a Celtic managerial memory from any particular landmark moment of your want, some considerable time ago. The necessary surgery to the side wasn’t carried out on Sunday, and only one of Milan’s flops was replaced by Chris Jullien, the rest were the fulcrum of the two in twelve.

Celtic were flat and predictable as well and as the new bumpy Parkhead pitch, the bumpy ride was guaranteed early doors, from when put clean through Edouard, failed to bulge the net. Laxalt was pushed further forward and double banked out of the proceedings.

The richest bench in Celtic history sat passively like us watching the same side go through the motions, with no pace, no width, no dynamism, no recognisable Celtic, just weary minds and legs. Players drained of support, sweeping the ball from side to side, some of them don’t need a new manager they need a miracle. The main midfield creative a poor substitute for James Forrest, failed to trap, even free of his right back role. Star man Ryan Christie toiled wide into oblivion.

Jullien did a Duffy with the diagonals, Rogic playing more minutes than he ever did in his heyday, fails to turn the clock back and looked lost chasing a cameo. Scott Brown is sharing the inherited invisible cloak,with Barkas. Nobody at the club can cross, head a ball, or shoot from outside the box. There’s so much wrong at Celtic its difficult to know where the new manager would start.

Only a few weeks ago Celtic supporters were still heard to say, “Aye but we’ve got the best players”
have we really? One ‘fully fit’ striker always a lone gunman Eddy looks disinterested, and devalued,

With this new nothing to VST Celtic, other than the inevitable slow motion Zapruder away goal video, the club only needs seek managers who possess a magic bullet, never mind a wand. We’ve separated the wheat in the transfer window and clearly kept the chaff, and when you witness games where nobody plays well, you’ve not just a problem for man of the match, you’ve a problem.

‘They’ didn’t really know what to do before ten in a row, they didn’t know what to do when it started started to slip away, now that it’s going like an otter off the riverbank, they still don’t know.

Hail Hail

bada bing1

Some really interesting posts re fan ownership last night. IMO the Celtic Trust would have to change their constitution re’ not criticising the Club ‘, in that mode it will be another vehicle the Board will control. The other alternative is to start another movement, to actively campaign for change, alongside a fundraising aspect.

bada bing1

In Lustig and Tierney, we also lost 2 big characters and personalities, who were brilliant in the dressing room, and the training pitch too.

Maybe I’m getting mixed up but I thought it was the CSA who were not allowed to criticise the club not The Trust?

Angel Gabriel

Good afternoon all.
Bobby, good article again. HH .
Big AudioD .
In most cases , I try to look for a positive, especially in people. It often becomes more difficult, especially with the Sticky‘s but if you’re prepared to look then sometimes you get surprises .
I don’t have any great knowledge of the Celtic Trust, or all their motives. I have though spent time with some prominent members.
The suggestion that they’re in bed with the board is naive.
Fan-a-tic
I attended a Tommy Burns supper where Matt McGlone was a speaker. His stint was fine , got a few laughs and met with approval.
During his slot , he gave his version of the takeover. Fergus McCann , saved the club , full stop .
Afterwards I approached him and suggested that John Keane’s role was highly important and should certainly have merited a mention.
I also mentioned knowing others in the Celts for change movement that helped play a significant part .
He didn’t seem, at that time to be magnanimous or place large credit out-with his chosen few ( including himself) that also played important rolls.
I think he has an above average ego , only my perception, others in the room thought different. HH
Bournsoupe.
We’re in stormy seas with a broken engine , we seem unable to send out an SOS .
Someone new is required to restore confidence and add some structure. Sad stuff .

Angel Gabriel

JimtheTim .
Snap .I think it’s the CST that don’t criticise. I’ve been wrong before. Often.

bada bing1

McGlone is an opportunist…..

Ayrshire Bhoy

Another disaster another day with same management team. Its getting to the parody stage now, wtf is actually happening? What does Neil have to do to get sacked? Anyone confident we will win the cup on the 20th as i have no faith we will win it.

Auldheid

Jim, I’m not talking about poor leadership in the Trust, I’m talking about how it, along with everything else, is controlled by the board. Always think control, cause our board NEVER leave things to chance! It’s the reason the support were purposely splintered into the various branches you now see …divide and conquer! The most used tactic that anyone in a position of power uses to neuter any opposition.

You want to give your money that maybe, just maybe, the Trust can do something constructive with it in 5 or 6 years time!? Wow!

The only change we will see, is the change that is
allowed … Anyway, hope you are well, fella 👍

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That is my concern, not so much the control aspect because as has been pointed out a much bigger organisation will bring more candidates for the jobs on the Trust Board, but the timescale to effectiveness.

I dont know if anyone has noticed but Res12 has actualy got Celtic to do what they refused to do last year which is to take the matter of investigation away from the SFA and engage with SFA and UEFA themselves.

The Boards response is a bit fuzzy so clarity is being sought as will be shown before the AGM but had Res12 been fought under the umbrella of a large membership of supporters and shareholders it would not have taken 7 years to get to where we are now.

That is why I sent my thoughts based on Res12 experience to the CST and they were part of what was gathered up at the Zoom open meeting and I’ll be watching to see if any are taken board.

I’ve expressed my view which is in the direction of the KevJ school of thought, (God what unlikely class mates 🙂 ) but does not bank so much on a boycott as a means of hitting the club in the pocket but still using buying power. However had Res12 had a much enlarged audience the case for bringing the Board to account was/is so strong a wider informed support might have been persuaded to boycott. . So large numbers yes, dependency on share accumulation only as the long term solution -no.

I mentioned in my thoughts that some of the funding should go towards paying for legal advice.. Had Res12 had that assured then much of Celtic’s delaying tactics could have been challenged early doors vastly decreasing the time taken to reach where we are.

I dont see a greatly enlarged CST as being under Celtic’s control although I do recognise from experience just how much that is Celtic’s modus operandi, it’s quite incredible actually, but if CST are reformed, which is basically what I put to them in my thoughts to become a Membership Scheme ran by supporters as opposed to one ran by Celtic (Road to Damascus event for me beginning with Duhh) then your fears can be put to rest.

However here is the thing BAD, to bring such a change about you have to be a member first because change will only come from within and your antenna for independence will help steer a CST membership scheme always in that direction.

Auldheid

BAD

Bobby, as far as organisations like the Trust are concerned, who do you think will be their biggest influence? I’d bet everything I have, they have been in bed with the board since inception.

There is one option open to those brave enough to take it …keep your money for your own house & family! Keep handing over your money and you will get what you have always got ..nothing! No say, no input and most definitely no power!

I’ll tell you how I know this is all orchestrated …because nothing else makes any sense.

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As an arms distant member of the CST beginning at an Open Meeting in 2010 the idea that they were complicit with the Celtic Board is risible.

That they were under control is not, but that is because they were not big enough to have power.

Celtic’s strategy has been one of keeping supporter groups in silos to prevent them having power.

The answer is to create a huge silo they cannot control because they cannot be fed different narratives as suits.

The powerlessness was unconsciously mentioned at the Open meeting by Zoom from several CST officials in that they spoke of being fed bullshit or given empty promises by Celtic and even though they knew that they could do nothing about it.

So under control? By default yes. Willingly ? No.

Most definitely no.

That is why I think the first priority has to be finding power and the share accumulation route is too long..

If the only way to power is that route here is the problem, what is the point of putting any resolutions forward until that point is reached, if ever. They will always be outvoted.like Res12 until now and power had a part in changing Celtic’s stance this time.

A tale for after AGM.

Noel Skytrot

It’s bad craic when i’m telling my sibling that i’m really not keen on buying his grandchildren any club merchandise for Xmas which i’ve been doing since they’ve been in a cot. My father wants to keep his season ticket, but i’m struggling to do so. In a bit of a quandary at the moment.

bada bing1

The Banter Years are over,we need a new manager with modern methods, and forward thinking. Lawwell needs to go, or we will be back here again soon,a CEO who can sell the Club and attract new business and stay away from the football side of the business. Get a Director of Football to help the manager and help him manage the squad, our signing policy has been a scandalous waste of money, the money gained from selling Forster, Dembele, Tierney, Armstrong and Rodgers, has been squandered. We have had 5 attempts at signing a RB and a LB,Taylor Laxalt, Bauer,el Hamed,Bolingoli, we are playing midfielders as defenders, Ajer, Bitton. It’s a fkn shambles from top to bottom.

Chalmersbhoy

Afternoon bhoys/ghirls
Predictor league has been updated.
Still scunnered.
Registered yesterday with the cst but will wait for more information in the coming weeks before investing in there plans..
HH

bada bing1

Royal parasites William and Kate,turn up in Edinburgh, if anyone gets a fine for moving Tiers ,they should quote these 2 fkrs,all bets are off…

Chalmersbhoy, likewise I have become a member of CST but not yet committed financially. I’m learning a bit more about them on a daily basis. I haven’t yet taken the time to read up on the site.

But my early thoughts are going along the line of a shift in purpose for them. I’m certainly not against the idea of fundraising to purchase shares and have voting power. But as Auldheid says the main aim should be a large membership so that the trust becomes a ‘must listen to’ organisation for the Board. Not just listen to but be influenced in their decision making. A means of communication between fans & Board. This could be done quite quickly.

Membership can be free but normally an affordable donation or subscription to help with running costs, and importantly, to cover legal services when required. Those who can afford it could contribute more for the purpose of shares accumulation. A good medium to longer term aim in my opinion. A move in the right direction towards fan ownership.

Big Audio Dynamite

Auldheid, can you say with any certainty the Trust’s leadership isn’t already compromised? I am utterly convinced they will not be working on our behalf …oh sure, they will always say they are! Those who hold control, always keep control by being many steps ahead of the peasants.

This is also about more than just sport or money … it’s about the division of a city. The same tactic is used the world over ..be it sport, relgion, or colour… Keep them distracted with hating each other, while we do what the f@ck we want.

B.A.D. I totally understand your mistrust of the leadership in any organisation with members. The Labour Party have been dealing with it for generations. It will never go away.
But despite all this Labour created the NHS. Many other improvements and rights for people in Britain. Things that would never have happened under the Tories. Not perfect by any means but worth having.

Oglach

As a small share holder i will be watching with interest how the CST plan / manifesto / commitment takes shape before i commit my shares. There needs to be an unambiguous statement of intent from the CST that their aim is supporters having a truly independent voice in the running of the club, obviously backed up with a large share holding.

However i am with many others on one thing. As it stands Celtic FC / PLC will not be receiving one thin dime from me until such time there is a change in the board set up and the footballing side is prioritised over PLC profit, corporate wages and bonus payments.

Anyone who is considering contributing to and empowering the current regime by ST renewal or purchasing merchandise needs to consider their actions- look at the contempt the board has treated you with – you who dug deep and paid premium rates to watch sub standard quality live streams of games during the pandemic, you who have always been there when ‘Celtic’ needed your help, you who the current custodians ignore and lie to. Well the ‘Club’ needs your help yet again. If you want any chance of getting your club back some short term pain will be required. Stand up and be counted – spread the word – NOT ONE THIN DIME -Starve the charlatans out of Celtic by denying them the only thing they want from you – your money.

First against the wall CSC

fan-a-tic

bada bing1@1-51
That’s what you get when an emperor, accountant ,head of recruitment has final say on everything.
I was once employed as a consultant for an American company and the owner took a shine to me and gave me a seat on the board.
I had a 3 year no fault clause in my contract so i was only one in company who could stand up to him.
Board and strategy meetings had a consistent feel where people would present new ideas and strategies.
He would wait till meeting was almost over then stand up and say you are all talking rubbish and this is how it will be done and lay down his strategy.
As he was the sole owner it was always thus.
One day he said to me during a meeting i haven’t heard you say much?
I responded what would be the point as you would do as always and just rubbish my ideas.
He went nuts and fired me so i set off in limo to airport.Got halfway there and summoned back as lawyers told him he had to pay me.
Despite this i liked the guy on a personal level.
A few years later the company was bought for $120 million by a large corporation and they gave him a 2 year consultancy for a seamless transition.
After 3 months they paid him off as they said he was a barrier to progress.
In 5 years the company was valued at 2 and a half billion without his disfunctional leadership and poor decision making.

Big Audio Dynamite

Jim, if I told you I don’t believe Labour and the Tories are even in opposition to one another, you would probably say I was nuts, eh? Well, after nearly 20years of digging, I don’t only think it, I know it for sure! They are ALL in the same club, and politics really is the illusion of choice.

The board use similar tactics.

They have their lackeys online to convince you to think “Oh good, someone is taking on these cants) while the rest of us sit back and watch, and what do you know, things never change …just a lot of hot air blown! How long since “Rangers” liquidated? And what has been done about it? Nothing! In fact, they are about to do a treble!!

Long before we think of our next move, the board are already 3 steps ahead

Auldheid

Auldheid, can you say with any certainty the Trust’s leadership isn’t already compromised? I am utterly convinced they will not be working on our behalf …oh sure, they will always say they are! Those who hold control, always keep control by being many steps ahead of the peasants.

This is also about more than just sport or money … it’s about the division of a city. The same tactic is used the world over ..be it sport, relgion, or colour… Keep them distracted with hating each other, while we do what the f@ck we want.
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In that any organisation will act in it’s own self interests is a fact of life.

I fail to see see though how it would be in the self interest of an organisation set up to challenge Celtic to then not do that.

Trust in the “I trust you” meaning has to start by trusting.

If you never do that what you distrust will never be able to earn your trust or prove you right.

The very fact you enter with an attitude of mistrust alerts you to when it manifests itself or does not. If you dont sign up you will never find out. I’m not saying you should, that is down to you but you might be missing out.

I’m pretty certain the CST dont trust me but that doesnt stop me trying to prove them wrong.

In early years Res12 requisitioners were subject to ridicule and mistrust but in the belief that what was being pursued was a just case and a reformed SFA by exposing their duplicity was the right thing to do I think over the years that is no longer so.

That it turned out it wasnt just the SFA that required reform was an unpleasant find.

The stupid in blue still ridicule but as a leopard has spots so are they stupid.

I do have concerns about where CST are now and their direction of travel which is why I sent them my thoughts on their future. Have you read them? If they were to adopt them would you reconsider becoming a member?

As I said earlier I’ll look for their response,if any, with interest.

A good discussion on the pros and cons btw.

Auldheid the

BAD

I’ve copied over my thoughts on the future direction of travel of CST .

The Future of the CST. Thoughts.

The following are some thoughts for CST to consider to help make Celtic more accountable to their support based on experience of pursuing Resolution 12.

1. Suggest CST change name from CST to the Registered Name: Celtic Supporters’ Society Limited Company Number: IP29147R so that it is clear CST is open to supporters and shareholders alike.

2. Give supporters without shares a reason to join more than buying shares to enable CST to speak for them . Make use of technology and harness social media to identify representational issues, seeks views and act on them after gaining consensus.

3. Revisit the CST Constitution to see if it needs changing to reflect what in effect would be a re branding and whatever aims , objectives and roles the rebranded organisation take on.

4. Expand the new organisation to cover many thousands of Celtic supporters, ST Holders, Celtic TV subscribers, etc to give them added authority when raising issues with The Board.

5. Give each member a membership card with a membership number.

6. Be prepared to use the financial investment supporters make in Celtic to challenge what is in the Company’s interest where resistance is being met by The Board with no good reason.

7. Make the Celtic Board more accountable and transparent as a result.

8. Use subscriptions to fund share purchases, set up legal cost fund (you need lawyers to argue your case with Celtic/SPFL/SFA Lawyers) and pay someone to administer /manage the expanded membership.

9. Reshape web site to capture emerging issues, keep track of them and keep membership up to date on issues

10. Invite contributions from Celtic supporters that align with organisations aims for publishing on the web site.

11. Allow for a much expanded AGM and look at how it might be set up, perhaps using same technology as the Open Meeting on Zoom.

12. Encourage volunteers with specific expertise to join sub committees to cover separate issues where particular knowledge is needed.

13. Set agendas and invite Celtic to attend rather than be invited to meetings in small groups and encourage two way dialogue with Celtic as a prerequisite for restoring trust.

14. Disabuse The Celtic Board of any notion the Celtic support are not capable of rational engagement.

Res 12 Lessons.

1. Much bigger support baseline needed.

2. Celtic use the lack of such to ignore pursuing issues

3. Legal fund absolute necessary to establish shareholder rights and Director responsibilities and challenge legal reasons used to obstruct progress.

4. Media are under Celtic’s thumb, many journalists briefed on Res12 evidence, none followed up because it is not in their interests, so a respected presence on Social Media required to get any message out.

5. Make a connection between business issues being pursued and results on the park so that there is a greater understanding of the importance of having a Board that is accountable as symptoms of poor business practice manifest themselves on the field of play.

6. A lot of hard work involved but easier if spread over a larger organisation with a wider resource base to call on..

timhorton

Barkas didn’t become a bad keeper overnight, he has a very bad defence in front of him.

Big Audio Dynamite

Auldheid, yes, I read it all. Would any of it make me subscribe to the Trust? No it wouldnt, as what would be the point if i think the leadership are just plants? All the talk in the world won’t change that.

And like I said about board lackeys online, they are there to give the impression someone is taking on the baddies on our behalf. Clever, when you think about it!

Btw, I’m not having a go at those who genuinely want change, I’m just really sceptical that any change will be the change we want.

B.A.D. If the leadership were plants and not taking on board what the large membership were saying, they would be voted off. No?

Auldheid the

Big Audio Dynamite
Auldheid, yes, I read it all. Would any of it make me subscribe to the Trust? No it wouldnt, as what would be the point if i think the leadership are just plants? All the talk in the world won’t change that.

And like I said about board lackeys online, they are there to give the impression someone is taking on the baddies on our behalf. Clever, when you think about it!

Btw, I’m not having a go at those who genuinely want change, I’m just really sceptical that any change will be the change we want.
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Fair enough but what you think is what you get unless you open your mind to the possibility you might be wrong. Lets leave it there.

Big Audio Dynamite

Auldheid, what you think is what you get? That’s nonsense. I think Glasgow Rangers shouldn’t exist, shouldn’t be top of the league and most certainly shouldn’t be going for a treble ..as they don’t exist! Now, what did I get?

After 10 years of waffling about the corruption in our club and Scottish football, what have we got now? What has changed?

Happy to leave it THERE

Auldheid the

I’m listening to this now Speirs talking to Roger Mitchell ex CEO of SPL

Well worth a listen.

https://www.patreon.com/pressbox and scroll down. It seems to be free.

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