Change, what change?

I didn’t bother with the AGM, nothing ever happens.
A lazy blogger could easily just fish out the comments made across cyberspace after last year’s gathering for the little that changes. The fact there was no crowd only served to cement the fact this would be a non event whitewash, not facing the lessers is always very satisfactory to this board.


The boards makeup alone is a great indicator to just how in tune they would be with the typical rank and file supporter, who are the clubs lifeblood after all. Mostly elderly with the token female, all known professionally to each other before the board proposition one imagines, and now as we hear looking set to stay in situ further despite the majority of the support wishing for change.


If their ear is to the ground as alleged during a recent statement, then once again the supports wishes have been dismissed.
Those expecting the CEO to finally leave us, if his ego can squeeze through the exit door, are sorely disappointed at the lack of news on that front. In all seriousness to announce departure now publically inviting applicants for the job then overseeing as smooth a transition as possible is much preferable to an abrupt summer goodbye, which would hurt the club. The rest of the board members would be just as culpable should they allow that to happen., unless of course it’s a promote from within scenario.
That scenario would not please fans one bit as there’s no one they consider either trustworthy or independently minded enough to not only move the club forwards into the modern world but also heal the growing divide with the support.


One of the main issues the support would see tackled is how the game is run and why the nations biggest club doesn’t attempt to force through some type of proper oversight, particularly as they look to be the victims of FFP breaches.
In swatting away Res11 today, just like Res12 in the past, they committed themselves to the status quo. Their weak words of looking to others to lead the way fool no one, being handed the evidence and refusing to deliver it up the chain.


There was of course a defence of our manager, going through a bad spell, fantastic record, long way to go etc. And then that great squirrel the quadruple treble gets mentioned. Its almost as if they are saying look you got a great gift for your birthday so you can’t expect one at Christmas also. That’s fine except you yourself pay for the gifts, not them.
And that manager they praise has half a notion to throw out all he had learned recently by bringing back out of form players meaning the treble is in no way guaranteed to boot!


But clearly the preferred line of deflection is 36 million spent during the last year, highest ever. Great little soundbite but fails under scrutiny as all the rest do. For starters who bought them and were those prices doubled checked at least to ensure real value for money?
We dont tend to venture into Greece, was Barkas considered that good we felt compelled to move on him?
Was Hazard viewed as an option at all?
The two biggest buys are on the bench with one still lacking in match fitness as we hit Christmas which must cause concern we spent unwisely?
With Barkas and ElHamed unsettled do the club actively offer assistance to foreign employees with the aim of helping them settle into Glasgow life?
Why did we approach such an important season with a number of wantaways who should have been sold the vision of playing for the ten or just sold?
Why is our most impressive signing a loan player?
Will we stop the ‘eye for a player’ crap now most of our recent buys are far from home runs?
Of course we will never get straight answers. Get straight bullshit though.


So no there won’t be change, we are going nowhere, Lenny is fine, we spent, now quiet and buy your merchandise and tickets because there’s still a big waiting list. A waiting list that dangles over the wavering fan like the sword of Damocles, but that I reckon is non existent at this current moment, or at least is wishful thinking.


The board clearly feel they can not only ride out this storm, but will continue captaining the good ship for now. With each others backing and their voting blok their heels have been dug in it seems.
It certainly looks as if they have confidence they can ride out the possible storms on the horizon,,the cup final,,the league destination,,the Celtic Trust.


They have clearly underestimated the supports capability and their feelings. Everything is not okay, reassurances and past glories aren’t cutting it, the disconnect grows and hunkering down with next to zero real change will antagonize the fans seeing sales drop across the board.
They can pull the fingers in the ears act, expecting the masses to fork up time and time again. But they have called this one very wrong and in July/August the phone calls and cries of ‘faithful through and through’ will emerge via friendly outlets.


Resist, you can’t attend and they wouldn’t spend it all on the team anyway, but their EPL wages which certainly wont change.
Every penny withheld helps in forcing the change that is so badly needed. Its the only weapon we’ve got now, if they wont change then we must.


Back the team.
Sack the board.

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December 15, 2020 6:52 am

Hope you are not a voice in the wilderness about the mess the Board has created, be interesting to see how forensic the CST interview goes After that meeting the support will have decisions to make?

December 15, 2020 8:33 am

Spot on, well said (Mahe?). The only fact that the Board will understand is when it affects the bottom line. Everything else is just noise.

p.s. still missing the little arrow thingy to take you back to the top/comments box 😊😊

December 15, 2020 8:50 am

Mags, from last night, talking about asbestos.
I worked with McAlpine’s in the early 70s. On site, payroll. The men were paid a ‘plus rate’ for working in certain conditions. eg. in inclement weather, using power/hammer drills, installing asbestos. Usually about an extra 10p per hour!

I had a blether with the site trade union convenor at the time. He said he was against these plus rates. ‘Working in the pouring rain – wait until they are crippled with arthritis when they get older’. They should stay in the huts! They should be issued with ear protection. And as far as asbestos goes, they are not paying a plus rate for nothing, that stuff is dangerous.

An extra 10p per hour! Nowadays when workers are removing asbestos they are dressed like in like spacemen suits!

Cosy Corner Bhoy
December 15, 2020 10:03 am

The Real McCoy ( previous) : Re Hearts v Celtic in January 1966, my recollection, which is never that good nowadays, was that they flew into Prestwick Airport not Glasgow. However, I definitely know I was night shift in the Met Office at Prestwick that night and young Jimmy McGhee and I went to the game after our night shift at the Met Office and we were knackered , so can understand the players.
Though ours might have been due to the demon drink!
I left Met Office in September that year and haven’t seen Jimmy since, or if I did I didn’t recognise him😁.

December 15, 2020 10:04 am

So the annual snigger at the support AGM stays true to form.
Semantics of language used for wriggle room on various issues.
Wonder if they will snigger so openly if the fans start denying them their unearned loot?

December 15, 2020 10:11 am

Outstanding article,MAHE!

When you said you didn’t bother with the AGM,I thought you were just gonna brush it aside as of no consequence. I should know better,you just casually swept them aside instead. Yesterday was a masterclass in “GIRUY,there’s nothing you can do,hahahaha”

I’ve never called for a Bhoycott in my life and I won’t start now,but I certainly won’t waste any time talking anyone out of it as I’ve often done before. I’ve always thought it would damage the club,so is self-defeating-but yesterday showed that they don’t think it is our club anymore.

Strictly speaking,they are correct. That’s share ownership for you. That’s how voting rights work too. Well,if they aren’t interested in our concerns,I can’t really get too aerated about theirs. And since their only concern is money…

December 15, 2020 10:35 am

I owned a 5 storey office building in New Jersey once.
After doing a One million and Two hundred thousand dollar refurbishment an asshole who had a grievance with his company who had an office set fire to the building.
For the most part it was smoke damage except in that office.
Inspectors then found asbestos in the damaged ceiling.
It was a nightmare as not only did workers wear hazmat suits but we had to put in a contained air pressure chamber so nothing was released
.Also showers installed and a specialized refuse service to get rid of all contaminated materials including suits only worn once.
We had air scrubbers throughout entire building and every surface chemically cleaned.
The building was closed for 8 months .
It cost a fortune.
And off course insurance company wriggled out of parts of cost.
It was a financial disaster.

December 15, 2020 11:09 am

It is now 25 years since Jean-Marc Bosman entered the European Court of Justice as a midfielder and emerged as a noun.

He wants a Bosman. The Bosman rule. We’re signing him on a Bosman. (BBC)

It’s had mixed effects!

December 15, 2020 11:19 am
December 15, 2020 12:10 pm

I think Bosman started off well enough in terms of player’s employment rights – freedom of movement etc. But the transfer fees which exploded from it has created a great divide between the haves and have nots. Players, clubs and leagues.

A thing of beauty
December 15, 2020 12:36 pm

Was doing a bit of shopping yesterday and missed the AGM updates but have since caught up through the blogs and podcasts. As almost everyone has stated the level of disconnect between the board and the support has never been worse and I include the Kelly’s and Grant’s in that. For us to find ourselves in the position we are and those charlatans to give each other a pat on the back beggars belief.
Peter Lawwell referred to a bad eight weeks. Utter rubbish, this was coming as soon as he appointed Neil Lennon. The standards expected by BR have fallen off a cliff and we have players who have no system to play to and no fitness to play it if they did. That’s what you get with someone who openly admitted he knew nothing of the “stuff in Brendan’s drawer.” Lawwell said we are investing record levels in sports science, analysis et al. Really? Mark that in the wasted file with the £38m you state has been spent in the transfer market under Lennon. There is a common theme here and Lawwell knows it but such is his massive ego he won’t admit it and keeps throwing money at a manager who has let him down. I say that as someone who feels he should never have got the job in the first place. But he has let lawwell down by showing what I can only assume to be a reluctance to learn about the sports science, analysis etc because one thing Neil Lennon is not, is thick. He could learn. He should have seen what was happening with the ibrox mob and used the lockdown period to teach himself new tricks. Did he do that? I think the fact that it was only around 3 weeks ago that he was talking about how they had sat down with the players and watched the game again as if this was some blue sky thinking from him tells you all you need to know. The thing is Neil Lennon will eventually be sacked, either in the summer or before but to allow the person who appointed him to survive is wrong, but that’s not the worst decision of his tenure. Oh no. For me his complete incompetence in dealing with the reemergence of the ibrox club will be his legacy. This is a club that went bust 8 years ago due to financial decisions that were shocking. Lawwell panicked, muttered something about being a stand alone club then jumped into bed with whatever con man happened to be running the show that particular week at ibrox. He was happy to have them as cannon fodder for a wee while but failed to notice they were getting their act together and had brought in all the stuff in BR’s drawer to help close the gap. Guess what? Two years of Neil lennon’s Nonsense and two years of improving standards from Gerrard and they have overtaken us. From the advantage that we had to where we are now should have seen Lawwell offer his resignation in shame. The fact that he lacks the self awareness to do this is dangerous for us a club. He is completely unaware or doesn’t care what the support are feeling about him and the shit show that is season 2020/2021. The fact that his pals, and that’s what they are, are the men who should pass judgement on him is yet another sign he has to go. How he was able to manage to appoint these chums into positions of power at Celtic park shows the level of absolute power this man has. That’s frightening and he needs to be leave for the good of the club moving forward. He is 61 years old and most of his board pals are the same age. What happens when he decides he’s had enough and he wants to leave? The club will flounder because the man in power who answers to no one will have no one to succeed him that is any younger or better than he is. In the meantime the ibrox mob have their plan in place. Gerrard will move to another job and take his men with him but they will appoint another manager who can carry on their plan. Do you think they’ll leave all the cv’s in the drawer and go back to McCoist? No, because only a really stupid or complacent club would do that. They’ll build from a position of strength and we’ll be playing catch up from a position of being £40m and nine trophies ahead as little as 18 months ago.
As a support we have to get behind the trust. I know some feel it’s a pointless exercise because it will take too long yada yada but we need a united voice. We won’t do it with single voices on blogs. It’s good to vent, I do it more than most but we need to get a movement in place that protects the club for the next generation and is not dependent on the whim’s of one man’s ego. I joined the trust a fortnight ago and I hope they can take our concerns forward as one voice.

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 12:36 pm

The Bosman ruling fkd football, players are richer than clubs these days.Transfer fees kept clubs going,paying £4 million for a guy,4 year contract on 25k a week, signing on fee,agents fee,that’s a £10 million outlay for 1 player, walks away at the end of his contract, Club gets hee haw.I can remember we bought Phil O’ Donnell from Motherwell for £1.75 m,they in turn bought Stephen Nicholas from Stirling Albion for £400k as a replacement, and so on……clubs were rewarded for selling assets,and money was kept in the game,not just filling players pockets. The days of Jim McLean sending 16 year olds up chimneys, on 8 year contracts, are well outdated, as is the Bosman ruling.

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 1:00 pm

In the minority, but I would start Broonie on Sunday, his experience will be required to keep an ‘exuberant ‘ Hearts side at bay,Beaton will stand by and watch the kicking, Soro has been a breath of fresh air,but remember he’s only played a couple of games for us.Turnbull is a cert, ahead of Rogic and Ntcham now for the no 10 role IMO

December 15, 2020 1:31 pm

BadaBingBadaBoom!…I agree but I do think it’ll be with one eye on Ibrox. The Cup Final will give him a good 60-75 minutes and keep him mobile and fresh for the Manky Mob! After New Year I’d expect him to be used much more sparingly as Soro and Turnbull establish themselves.

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 1:45 pm

McCaff- exactly that, Brown and Soro can play games between them, to get Broonie up to speed for Poundland, Turnbull is first choice No 10 now.

December 15, 2020 2:02 pm

Congratulations, Mahe, on your leader! You took aim and did not miss the target.

I and others need to do our homework on what the Trust is and has to offer.


December 15, 2020 2:04 pm


Arrow option gone from my phone too,as is auto fill of id boxes.

These unwanted updates don’t half mess the site around.

December 15, 2020 2:05 pm

And unless I post something,I can only see up till my most recent post!

December 15, 2020 2:08 pm



December 15, 2020 2:10 pm

I don’t think I’ve ever seen the arrow you’re talking about! And all comments are visible on my phone…are you on the wee early 90s Nokia, Mick!?!?🤣🤣🤣

December 15, 2020 2:16 pm

The Real McCoy

Thanks for sharing your own memories of European games.

Speaking of preliminary rounds in the European Cup, reminded me of a Celtic quiz night, that I attended years ago, involving 3 or 4 local CSCs.

One of the first questions was a so-called easy one to get the ball rolling:

Who did Celtic play in the first round of the 1966-67 European Cup?

Most of the teams, including my own, plumped for Zurich, which was the answer accepted by the judges.

I argued that the correct answer should have been Nantes, as the Zurich game was in the preliminary round.

Bloody hell, the pub was in uproar. One of the judges accused me of being a ‘ pedantic bastard ‘. After a short recess-to allow me to consult a dictionary to find out what pedantic meant- I had to concede that the judge made a valid point. I felt like Henry Fonda in ’12 Angry Men’ but in my case, could not sway the room. Hey ho, that’s life.


Hell’s bells, do you think Bankier has his eye on the CEO gig? Don’t think my wee heart could stand THAT.

Hail Hail

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 2:18 pm

Looks like the 5 day Christmas break nonsense, is getting binned

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 2:20 pm

Arrows?….ah never seen the Indians…


December 15, 2020 2:37 pm

ATOB @12-36
Excellent post.
We will never move forward as a football club as long as Lawwell remains.
His arrogance can’t countenance any blame for our pathetic European efforts because he was too busy praising himself for winning a one horse race.

December 15, 2020 2:38 pm


My trusty steam powered Nokia doesn’t recognise internet. Just the way I like it. Charge it once a week whether it needs it or not. Smartphones need charged so often they might as well be permanently plugged into a wall.

Not my idea of mobile…

December 15, 2020 2:40 pm

ATOB, bravo just a brilliant post and BMCUWP a well recommended read thanks

December 15, 2020 2:45 pm


“ But he has let lawwell down by showing what I can only assume to be a reluctance to learn about the sports science, analysis etc because one thing Neil Lennon is not, is thick. He could learn. He should have seen what was happening with the ibrox mob and used the lockdown period to teach himself new tricks. Did he do that? I think the fact that it was only around 3 weeks ago that he was talking about how they had sat down with the players and watched the game again as if this was some blue sky thinking from him tells you all you need to know.”
And yet Griff gets pelters-deservedly-for doing eff all during lockdown?

December 15, 2020 2:56 pm

At least I was community minded during lock down. 🙂

December 15, 2020 2:56 pm

Cosy Corner Bhoy

Re Hearts v Celtic 1966. Big Jock apparently told Jim Craig years later, that he-Craig- was responsible for the manager having full control of all footballing matters.

Big Craig was sent off v Kiev. The custom of the day at CP, was that a player had to personally apologise to the Chairman-Bob kelly-after an on field dismissal. This Craig refused to do, on the quite reasonable grounds that he has done nothing wrong to warrant any dismissal.
Big Jock was then ordered to drop Craig for the Tynecastle game. We promptly dropped two vital points in the league race, after a 3-2 defeat.

Desmond White bumped in to Big Jim in the stand as the game was about to get under way, and aked the player why he was not playing. On hearing the reason,White bacame incensed, and later confronted the chairman. This self-defeating policy was immediately dropped, and the rest as they say, is history.


Indeed an excellent post. We’re not worthy!

big packy
December 15, 2020 3:12 pm

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, frodsham bhoy thanks for the photo last night, yes lady heyes, new it was somethig like that😎 a true story i promise😎 back in the mid seventies when i was playing drums in liverpool for a living, we would always buy the liverpool echo, because it had a half page of musicians wanted, drummers wanted, artists wanted, now this is 100% TRUE, bob carolgees used to have an advertisement in the echo every single night must have cost him a few bob, it said, bob carolgees and spit the dog available for childrens parties,etc, you know something i used to feel sorry for him, because obviously he was not getting much work ,next thing a few years later, and he is on the tv with chris tarrant,.its a funny old world,.H.H.

December 15, 2020 3:22 pm

Morning folks.
Hope all are well.

Bobby I had a quick fiddle with the settings. Check if any different.

Fries, I also miss the wee scroll up button and want it back.

Hail Hail

December 15, 2020 4:17 pm

Anyone having issues with the site?

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 4:30 pm

Mahe- apart from having to scroll to the top to post a comment from a mobile, unless….

December 15, 2020 4:33 pm

Cheers Bada. Bobby just called and is having issues logging in.

December 15, 2020 4:38 pm

Mahe, excellent article.
Atob great analysis. That would have made a great article in it’s own right.

On the subject of managers I think that new team have stolen a march on us. I know it has taken years and we initially gave Gerrard pelters for being an unqualified, failed youth team coach. However, he does have a big name in the game from his playing days. Even if he is a useless manager he seems to have assembled a good coaching team. He has presence and is the public face of the dark side. I think players would be more drawn to them than to us if the decision was down to who would lead you out.
Rogers had presence which he built up in England. No offence to Lenny but we have lost that presence at the top.

December 15, 2020 4:58 pm


I’ve already asked her if I can use it for my next article.

December 15, 2020 4:59 pm

Why many thanks for the compliments Frodshambhoy.
Thanks for stopping by.

At our club of choice the footballing department is not allowed to lead the way, nor is it’s head allowed to garner too much popularity. The power must stay with the boardroom, who control transfers to also control supporters expectations.
At Ibrox they are happy to have a powerful figurehead as all benefit. They don’t play by our boards unwritten rules.

Hail Hail

December 15, 2020 4:59 pm

How’s the site look Bobby?

December 15, 2020 5:17 pm

testy wan

Margaret McGill
December 15, 2020 5:33 pm
Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 5:38 pm

Rangers have accepted the 2 game ban for Morelos for elbowing on Mark Connelly on Sunday.


He misses the League Cup match v St Mirren and Sunday’s game v Motherwell.

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 5:48 pm

Strange, Slippy G said he never touched him?

December 15, 2020 5:59 pm

Hi all,

The board certainly needs a radical overhaul – as does the whole approach of the club to supporters & towards our main business – putting a successful football team on the park.
Our board are “professional” only in so far as their statutory duties, fiduciary in particular, stretch. They act on behalf of shareholders & the bigger the shareholding the more beholding they are to you. The biggest of those is Desmond who sits on the board as an independent non-executive director – but I’m certain his voice is the one they all have to listen to.
I lifted this quote from an article about duties of directors link here,not%2Dfor%2Dprofits).

“What does fiduciary duty mean?
Fiduciary duty means, above all, loyalty to the organisation. Directors also have a duty of care and a duty of management under UK law, but the fiduciary duty is the greatest responsibility, as it means taking responsibility for the interests of others – in this case, the company or organisation.”

The board & their CEO have no long term strategic, viable & sustainable plan for the football department at Celtic. As you have outline and ATOB has amplified, their record is abysmal, but it is obscured behind the alleged success of the team & the successive league titles. With no serious competitor for years we should have achieved more AND taken the opportunity to reform our whole football operation to be a regular& consistent competitor in Europe. Our regression in Europe is ignored & yes last season looks fine at first, but the defeat to Copenhagen restored us to the mean – dumped out out by minnows.

The decision making of the board is suspect across all the areas you guys have mentioned but I looked at the recruitment etc of managers.

Since Fergus’s takeover Celtic have had 10 managers including NFL twice.
Five have left or been sacked during a season (Burns, Barnes, Mowbray, Lennon1, Rodgers).
A further two lasting just one season before deciding to leave (Jansen & Venglos).
The remaining three, O’Neill, Strachan & Deila, each had their own differing views on how to manage footballers & how their teams would play. But it’s also fair to say that they too had had enough, but had the good grace to agree to wait until the season’s end to leave.
Deila was driven nuts by the lack of support from the board for his attempts to reform the footballing culture at the club. Towards the end he looked ill & it seemed like he was mutualled.
Strachan’s last season saw us playing our worst football – up to that point – and after losing out on the league it seemed that he too was mutualled.
O’Neill left ostensibly to care for his wife but it’s no secret that after the Seville season when the club posted a loss of 6.4 million he was told by the board that his methods couldn’t be sustained. It was an open secret before Christmas 2004 that he would leave at the end of the season. Celtic could no longer afford to buy players for millions (Sutton, Hartson, Lennon, Thompson) with little of no sell on value.

Nothing in that record suggests excellence or professionalism in the corporate management of Celtic FC.
For me it shows very clearly that our policy in the recruitment of managers bounces around according to whatever perceived priority of the time holds sway within the board. Normally it’s one of only two priorities: recruit cheaply because we’ve overspent OR recruit the best we can find with no expense spared, because Desmond’s vanity is hurt over failures to win trophies or to spite another clubs directors after a defeat in a cup semi final at Hampden.

Recruiting and then having to sack or lose 5 managers out of 10 – all in the middle of your season – is no testament to professionalism in either recruitment, problem solving or cohesive corporate communication.
Recruiting cheap options (Venglos, Strachan, Mowbray, Lennon, Deila, Lennon 2) as a reaction to what you consider to be the profligate style of a predecessor that you yourself appointed is again absolutely no testament to professionalism.
Recruiting managers with a clear understanding by them as to what support they could expect to receive from the board & then causing them to leave because that support was withdrawn or never materialised (O’Neill & Rodgers) does not indicate a level of professionalism in honest recruitment or staff retention.

There is no vision or over arching philosophy at Celtic to avoid this managerial & football style oscillation.
In short, the Celtic board still operate the way successful clubs in other countries AND England rejected 20 years ago. Professional footballing continuity at Celtic is almost unknown, but ironically trying to secure continuity was likely one of the reasons the board appointed NFL the second time round. It hasn’t worked. Had the board conducted honest due diligence they would have known that NFL left his previous three clubs under questionable circumstances – Celtic, Bolton & Hibs. Funnily enough, I was on the fence when he was permanently appointed, but looking back, I see that that appointment too was unprofessional in principle & in execution.

I admire Neil Lennon greatly as a man & as a Celtic legend & nothing in any of this takes away from that.
But when our board’s track record of managerial appointments & subsequent retention & treatment of managers is examined it reflects knee jerk thinking & panic appointments rather than a planned, integrated & professional approach to securing the long term viability of our football club.

I know we can’t sack the board but it needs an urgent & radical overhaul now.


Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 6:01 pm

Midweek EPL games on Amazon Prime, free for 30 days,if you don’t have an account

Mike in Toronto
December 15, 2020 6:16 pm


Technically, what SG said was, ” “I didn’t see an elbow. If you look at him again, there’s no elbow there. The referee saw it and dealt with it. It was a foul and a yellow card and it’s been dealt with. But if you look at it again, next time I see you you’ll say it wasn’t an elbow.”

And, I think he is right. It wasnt an elbow… he hit him with his forearm.

December 15, 2020 6:17 pm


I never listened to what PL says. No point , its not based on reality. On your point
As a support we have to get behind the trust. I know some feel it’s a pointless exercise because it will take too long yada yada but we need a united voice. We won’t do it with single voices on blogs. It’s good to vent, I do it more than most but we need to get a movement in place that protects the club for the next generation and is not dependent on the whim’s of one man’s ego. I joined the trust a fortnight ago and I hope they can take our concerns forward as one voice.
I posted yesterday to McCaff about the CST and Res12 in the past to pave the way for the future.

I see share purchase/assignment as long term not just in financing terms but learning from experience terms so that if there is a better spread of shareholdings, experience will inform how to use it.

The key thing is the numbers because that makes it easier to get important messages heard across the support. Res12 was in effect a splinter group through circumstances, but a real disadvantage was reach, in spite of efforts and there were many believe me, the message that there is a connection between what we watch and the reasons we have to endure it, still has a way to go but with an enlarged CST on the lines I suggested before the Open meeting, the game changes.

One of my suggestions was establishing a fund to have legal advice on tap and after yesterday’s AGM the case for having it is even stronger. Bankier who approved the Board’s response to the Res12 statement in the AGM notice requiring that the Judicial process run to a close, went off script in his reply. He did so at last AGM which means he is either incompetent, fails to grasp the real issues of principles and values at play or as devious as the guy Bankier says acted in the best interests of the Company.. So he said one thing to all shareholders in the notice to the AGM but another at AGM as is reported by the media. Compare

“[The Board] ” will engage with the relevant authorities as appropriate in the interests of the Company, providing an update when possible. In the circumstances, therefore, the Board considers the resolution to be unnecessary and recommends that you vote against it.”

and as reported by The Scotsman

“The club remains of the view that an independent review by the Scottish FA is the best way forward but that’s a matter the board can’t control. The Scottish FA started disciplinary proceedings regarding the 2011 licensing process in May, 2018. In May 2020, the Scottish FA determined not to continue to progress those proceedings. That was surprising. We all agreed that this situation is disappointing. Ultimately, this is a matter that relates to the licensing process of the Scottish FA as applied to another club in 2011. Since 2011, the rules of the Scottish FA, the SPFL and UEFA have developed and evolved. The rules that stand today are considered to be fit for purpose.”

I do recall the above being said but was the AGM Notice response made clear? Hardly if the media missed an undertaking to engage with relevant authorities was the reason that made Res11/12 unnecessary.

The question is:- is it lawful for him to do that? Say one thing will be done in a fuzzy manner in AGM notice and when clarification is sought by shareholders, make the original statement of intent (and it is intent because it justifies rendering Res11/12 unnecessary) even fuzzier? Possibly incompetency but there are other examples.

When PL lied to shareholders about sight of 5 Way Agreement at last AGM, which Bankier ignored but opened up another can of worms in what he said yesterday (more later), did PL act unlawfully?

What has been discussed behind the Res12 scene was establishing the rights of shareholders and the responsibilities of Directors and using the evidence that we see as dereliction of duty , but Bankier described as acting in the company’s interests, the CST could find out just what the Company’s interests are and is misleading shareholders to protect them lawful?

Another example from Res12 experience is establishing if provenance of information suggesting the club might have been cheated is a lawful excuse not to handle the material at all? This reason/excuse added 4 years to Res12 but had we enough legal funds (and the diversion of money to a charity no matter how worthy did reduce what could have been done) then the rights and responsibilities route could have been explored. As it was the funds went on presenting the evidence because the provenance reason Celtic hid behind left no alternative.

The last thing The Board will want is legal scrutiny.

There are enough angry Res12 shareholders who had already pledged a significant sum to go legal, but it needs to be by an officially recognised Celtic supporter group with the back shop already in place (or added) so the more folk who weigh in not just with cash but experience, ideas, specific skills the more the Board’s arrogance can be the driver for change.

So if you joined the CST encourage them to look at the benefits of becoming more litigious and if you haven’t joined make it a condition of joining, if of course you agree with the case set out.

December 15, 2020 6:19 pm

Turnbull must start on Sunday.
Ajer must be at right back
Soro probably won’t start based on NFL’s comments but that’s sentiment getting in the way of professionalism.

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 6:20 pm

Nae statement?

Bada Bing
December 15, 2020 6:22 pm

MIT- whit is it wi lawyers and and detail?☹

December 15, 2020 7:00 pm


What a pleasure to see you on here,and I hope that the extended family are keeping you on your toes.

It’s a shame,isn’t it,that after a decade near enough of dominance,that we are still fighting amongst ourselves. You and yours travelled nearly 4000 miles to celebrate our achievements only two years ago,and none there could have believed then the state of affairs now.

It is what it it is-that’s the shrug of the shoulders reaction.

It’s got f..k all to do wi me,and I’m not having that! That’s the reaction that we need,the one which is becoming more common and one that we rail against.

This board etc owns the Plc. They don’t own us and we need to remind them of that.

Love to all,esp The Mascot!