Hamilton 0 – 3 Celtic

Morning,all.

 

A nice wee way to relax on Boxing Day when we are all too stuffed from overindulging the day before to get too excited about anything. In truth there were a number of very pleasing aspects of our display on Saturday,not least another clean sheet-which will have done our young keeper’s confidence no harm-and the continuing good performances from our two newbies in midfield,Soro and Turnbull.

 

Add to that the sharpness of Griff up front and the vast improvement-second half in particular-from Eddy,and a return to form of the likes of wee Frimpers,and it’s fair to say that we could be happier overall than has too often been the case recently.

 

At half-time,we hadn’t been much troubled by an eager,if patched-together-Accies line up,while we had had a few chances to open the scoring which,on another day,would have hit the net instead of the keeper or the woodwork. Indeed,the only trouble Accies gave our lads all day was in keeping all their limbs intact! And for once,we couldn’t complain about their Carpetright pitch not being watered,as the game was played in the midst of a veritable monsoon,conditions worse than any I can ever remember. But for all that,it was still scoreless at half time,and well,some of us have seen this film before…

 

Any misgivings were shelved within ten minutes of the restart as first, Eddie won and converted a penalty,and then provided the beautiful assist for a Griff thunderbolt into his bottom right. Two up and cruising,and but for more goalkeeping heroics,the shocking conditions and a typically lenient referee we could have added handsomely to our total.

 

Not to mention the bliddy woodwork which continued playing its part!

 

But with fifteen minutes to play,DT got the goal his overall contribution deserved as he latched onto a rebound from an Eddie header to fire it home and send us home content if drookit. It is far too early to call the recent results a revival,but there is little doubt that we have performed significantly better in recent weeks. That has to be encouraging as we head into a vital week where nothing less than six points will keep alive our outside chances of getting The Ten over the line. To even suggest that it is still possible would have been the actions of an idiot only a few short weeks ago,and I know that there will be many who will say that is still the case. But,well,as I said on Wednesday,’Tis The Season To Be Jolly,and I’ll continue to live in hope.

 

Us Tims are an optimistic lot,after all. Sometimes over the years,that has been the only thing that keeps us going! This is no time for the faint of heart,we will need Lions on the pitch and in the virtual stands over these next six days,and for the rest of the season thereafter. We need to keep up the pressure,and we have been doing that recently.

 

Now,on the vexed issue which has recently come up,and has proven to be so divisive…

 

There was some interesting reading back on the Saturday night shift!
I’m glad most of the time, posters kept things reasonable and respectful,as the subject in question is clearly a very emotive one. I don’t want to take sides on what seems to have become a Res 12 v CST issue,except to say that both have at heart the same goal-and that is to hold the current board to account,and to further the interests of Celtic fans in general.
There may have been an opportunity missed to combine both in a pincer movement,and that IMO is what has caused a schism. Personally I support the aims of Res 12 and ALSO of the CST. I don’t think the two have to be mutually exclusive,and I hope for a rapprochement sometime soon.
Meantime,views supporting each,either or both are still welcome here. As are those who espouse them. The site will not take sides,though comments-rather than articles-from MAHE and myself will continue to be only our personal views as events unfold. The Article of the Day is available should anyone wish to explain why they hold any particular opinion,and we will be delighted to host that and attribute it to the author in question.

 

I think there is room for both viewpoints to be aired and shared,and I hope that they coalesce sometime soon.

 

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Noel Skytrot

Three points secured then Dundee Utd before the trip to the WilliamDome. It would be interesting if the huns drew or lost their midweek game and we won the pressure would be on them rather than us. This week will be make or break.

Thetic

You our hosts are between a rock and a hard place right now with the CST and The supporters who want them to take a position on the Resolution. I suggest it has been almost civil so far , but if things don’t go our way Jan 2 watch the temperature rise up , it will be carnage on the Celtic blogs. But if we win ,watch how pally we can all be
This is slippy,s last year there. If he wins he will be wanted down south ,if he loses he has had his chance , and where will they get the money to bankroll another manager and replace all their loan players.

GER57

Thanks for yet another 1st rate article, Bobby.
We totally dominated the game and played some nice football in patches despite the horrendous conditions. I think Conor had one easy save to make. Granted, it was a badly under strength Accies side, but we could have easily doubled our goal tally.
There’s no doubt that the team have upped their performances over the last 5 games, and confidence seems to be returning. Eddy has rejoined the land of the living. His attitude was excellent, esp in 2nd half. Can these foreigners do it in a hurricane at New Douglas Park on Boxing Day? A class player can perform anywhere when he’s on it. Amazing feet. What a lift he gives the team when he turns it on.
So have we turned things around?
As things stand, if we win two and draw one in the three remaining Glasgow derbies, and win all other games, we win the league no matter what Sevco do. Very tall order, but it’s what we must aim for. How resilient will Sevco be when the pressure is on with the winning post in sight?
We need a good show on Saturday. Whilst a draw suits them in terms of the league, it will not be disastrous if we play well and draw. Remember, this is New Year at .Ibrox.
What about the underlying issues with the squad? If the “want sways” have decided to knuckle down till season’s end, fair enough. Those who haven’t can be moved on or sidelined. Ajer, Christie and Ncham were thus labelled by a few on here. Only Ollie seems to be not responding. We still have the better squad. If we don’t lose, Lenny will be kept in post.if we do, it will be carnage.
I also fully support what Res12 is tryimg to achieve, and can see why Auldheid is disappointed at the Trusts decision. I can also understand why it is cautious. Some of the comments over the past few days have been unduly harsh, but let’s hope an accommodation can be reached.
I’m going to apply to join the Trust, and, as an individual, will donate to the Res12 legal fund. I think we’ve a far better chance of winning the league than getting the board to alter its stance on Res12.
I hope everyone had a nice Christmas and that in 2021, we recover from the 2020.debacle.
Hail hail.

fan-a-tic

The huns game will be a difficult fixture.
A combination of them not needing to win,Madden and our lack of balance as a team.
We have improved thanks to Turnbull and Soro but still vulnerable defensively and lacking a creative mid.
Of the 2 who could provide that Christie is selfish with no real positional sense and McGregor who has the skills lacks vision and responsibility.
Ed and Griff will hurt the huns if given decent service but i also feel Ajeti could make life tough for their defense.
Pressing them high would cause them discomfort but our spacing and lack of system would leave us vulnerable to counter attack.
They play the same way always so if something doesn’t work a good coach should adapt to change flow.
Not sure any of our coaches have that ability?

GER57

Fan-a-tic
I think we have many creative midfielders. Rogic and Ncham for example.
Sevco defend tight in the middle and are confident that their full backs can prevent us getting to their bye line. I reckon Frimpong running at pace with the ball would unsettle them big time. However that’s what Madhun is there to disrupt. He’ll allow the hammer throwers a free ride. That’s worth 2 or 3 extra men.
I’d prefer strength in midfield and play Soro and Brown in front of defence. It will ask a lot of our full backs. We have 5 subs to replace tired legs.
My starting 11 would be:- Hazard, Frimpong, Ajer, Bitton, Laxalt, Brown, Soro, Turnbull, McGregor, Griffiths and Edouard. Keep it tight and hit them on the break. We have an array of subs to call on, and we’ll need them.

Auldheid-a-

GER 57
There is no CST legal fund to ascertain rights of shareholders and Director responsibilities.

The CST rejected the idea on their false understanding it was to tackle the SFA.

As I’ve shown the use of the £20k pledged was for that ascertaining rights purpose and CST had that in writing.

However by all means join then ask them why they think getting legal advice for the real reason the suggestion was made is a bad idea.

No point me asking the question, ,I just get abuse for pointing out their democratic decision by the CST Board only is based on an inaccurate presentation of the reason for the pledges.

Auldheid-a-
fan-a-tic

Ger 57
No doubt Ntcham and Rogic have creativity.
But Ntcham has been sidelined by Lennon and Rogic has to few moments to be an automatic pick.
Henderson has also been frozen out by Neil.
Meanwhile McGregor and Christie are constantly picked despite not producing.
It smacks of a coach with a preordained notion of players with no basis on their actual performances.

Oglach

Paddy Roberts available in Jan – bring him back i say, interim loan with option to buy.

IMO we may have to buy a couple of players in Jan in addition to a keeper and decent CB if we lose at the crumble dome as i can envisage Ed and a couple of other want aways demanding a move if the league title is realistically beyond reach, which even the most optimistic amongst the support would have to acknowledge it would be should we lose.

big packy

OGLACH might be wrong on this but didnt paddy have a chance to come back to us on loan a couple of seasons ago, and knocked us back.H,H,

fan-a-tic

Oglach
If Neil remains as coach i can see a few players wanting out regardless of result.
Not only the players who don’t get a game but those with ambition to play at a higher level.
Europe may have fulfilled some expectations but coach looked completely out of his depth at that level where we easily succumbed to teams with far less cash and resources than us.
Losing our better players and very good youngsters should be a wake up call but our board seems determined to stick with their choice rather than admit it was an error to employ Neil.
If we continue to stick then no incomer will make much difference as coaching is our fundamental problem and his lasting legacy will take a few seasons to repair.

Oglach

BP

My understanding was we tried to buy him during Brendan’s tenure but Man City were playing silly buggers with fee. I may be wrong but i think our interest cooled after that and we never made enquiries in to taking him back on loan. Could be wrong however.
Imho we could do worse than bringing him here for 1/2 a season to see if he can replicate the form that made him so popular, i know that things haven’t worked out too well for him since he left but on his day we know he can be as good as anyone currently on our books. Just what we need against a packed defence – someone with skill to beat a player and to score or deliver a telling pass.

big packy

OGLACH, cheers pal for the reply, would take him in a heartbeat👍

Oglach

fan-a-tic

PL told the CSA that perhaps in hindsight they should have let the ‘want aways’ leave rather than convincing them to stay for the 10. PL being a sneaky bassa i read this as they will be sold in Jan should an acceptable bid be received.

Sol Kitts

A knock on effect of Roberts being at Celtic previously was the upturn in performances from Jamesie Forrest, who suddenly had someone capable of taking his place in the team. He was at his best at that time, knowing that disappearing from games would result in him warming the bench in future games.
I would definitely have Roberts back, he would give the whole place a lift.

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big packy

update on last nights true stories, magua 9/10 aswgl 9/10, sol kitts 5/10 and thats me being generous.😎😎

fan-a-tic

Oglach@2-24
Agree.
Lawwell was still pushing kids away at wedding scrambles when he was 25.

big packy

AULDHEID, from last night, you were just in front of me at the vojvodina game, im sure it was you i was hugging when big billy hit the winner, think you said you were halfway down the terracing, well thats where i ended up ,someone was hugging me and it wasnt wee joan,😎😎

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
Still a pass mark. 👨‍🎓

big packy

SOL, ok im going to give you 7 because that number reminds me of seven past niven, dont know why,😎

bada bing1

Absolutely no point in bringing anyone in for a few reasons, won’t be match fit,NL wouldn’t play them,next seasons manager might not rate him,and I wouldn’t let Lawwell spend any more money.

fan-a-tic

bada bing1
Could not agree more.
Also their confidence may go down in our poor coaching set up rife with favoritism.

big packy

SOL, joking apart how are you pal,what tier are you in, ive got a warrington postcode which tells me im in teir 3, but on the gov website it says teir 2 confused.com👍

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BADABING

All that you say is true,plus there is also the argument that if we get the six points over the next two games then the players who did that deserve the chance to build on it-and that if we don’t then there is no point in bringing anyone in anyway!

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
We were put into Tier 4 before Christmas, so had to cancel all our plans to have family over on the day. Everything’s closed except food stores and other essentials. Even the bloody gym’s shut, so my knee’s starting to get sore again.
There’s no sign of this ending soon. Mrs Kitts and I are ok, we both work in “essential” jobs, so at least we can get out of the house. I worry for the mental health of those who can’t.

A thing of beauty

Bada,
I take a slightly different view. If we don’t win the next two games the league is over. I would then sell the want aways for what we can get and get a new manager in. He would then have six months to work with what he has and six months to plan for replacements. If we persist with Neil when we are 20 plus points behind the Huns then that is dereliction of duty. I cannot bear another six months of something I am not invested in. At least if we have a new manager we will have something to get behind. It will also encourage more people to renew their season book. If the ten is gone and Lawwell and Lennon remain in place I think we’d be looking at 25000 renewals tops. Frightening but actually unbelievable incompetence from such a position of dominance.

big packy

SOL, worrying times have not seen my mother in law for about 6 months now, the risk is too great, she is on a breathing machine 24/7, if she even gets a bad flu she would be gone.H.H.

Sol Kitts

Big Packy
Thoughts are with you and wee Joan right now, and of course your mother-in-law. It’s hard because you want to be there to offer comfort and support, but right now the best help you can give is to stay away. Soul destroying.

big packy

SOL it helps when we have friends like you and bobby, and jim, mcaff, aswgl, magua ,atob ccb, mike in toronto, fan oglach ,auldheid etc ,sorry if ive missed anyone.H.H.

bada bing1

Everton v Man City off tonight ,Covid

bada bing1

ATOB- couldn’t agree more, but I think we will limp along till the end of the season with current management

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I’ve just realised that I omitted to compliment the performance of one of our best performers-IMO-on Saturday. I really should work from a checklist when I write these reviews!

I thought Greg Taylor put in a very good shift at the back against a limited threat-other than physical!-from Accies. But more important was his link-up and availability further forward. And once again,his running to the line to receive the pass and fire it low across the six yard box provided us with a good few opportunities,something which has been a regular feature this season.

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SOLKITTS

Yer burnt coupon gag last night was a stoatir! Proof that money spent on Christmas crackers is never wasted.

Oglach

bada bing1
Absolutely no point in bringing anyone in for a few reasons, won’t be match fit

Bada that made me laugh, – they will not look out of place with the rest of the squad then (imho of course)🙄😃😆

bada bing1

Oglach- very true mate,Soro was signed a year ago, and getting a game now,more by accident than design…

fan-a-tic

ATOB
I think the board see themselves as infallible so Neil will finish the season as they cannot countenance the error of hiring him.
We are at the mercy of rich men.

Oglach

Food for thought.

Does anyone else agree with me that i believe in order to have any realistic chance of retaining the title and winning the 10 not only do we have to win at Ibrox but we have to win convincingly thereby firmly positioning the oul doubt genies on the shoulders of the Sevco squad and management. A scrappy defeat can easily be psychologically nullified, we were the better team, nae luck, he was miles offside etc etc but a thorough doin’ for them in such an important game could be the catalyst for a repeat of their bottoms collapsing last season???

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OGLACH

Good point. While I reckon most of us would be delighted with ANY win,a crushing victory would be infinitely more desirable!

fan-a-tic

Oglach
If we to go to ibrox and win handsomely then doubt may creep in.
Hun players and coaches?
Perhaps.
The behind the scenes money men may get the jitters and force the sale of a player or two?
But Madden was picked for a reason and his brethren have stepped up to the plate this season especially with no spectators and poor tv production leaving only mssm to scrutinize.
We can all see how well the mssm have been doing their job.
So unless something major happens they will continue as is.

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FAN-A-TIC

I reckon they are well aware of the mistake in hiring him,but the saving of around £5m pa on him v BR and staff was what swayed them. They will justify it on that basis alone,plus the five consecutive trophies.

That the team performances have dropped alarmingly,and in line with those of individuals-and therefore their valuations-will matter not a jot.

That’s their KPIs hit,after all.

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
The devaluation of our playing squad should have been considered and especially the devastation of promising youngsters who could have helped them reduce the need for risky signings.
To be selective in KPI’s rather than factoring in the many scenarios is plainly stupid.
Fail to plan and Plan to fail is the saying.
The long term cost of hiring Neil will be an anchor around our chances of future success.

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FAN-A-TIC

As I’ve said before,they know the cost of everything and the value of nothing. They might yet come to realise the price of failure-but conversely,that is something I don’t want!

What a f…..g dilemma…

Margaret McGill

Auldheid
Did you get a response from the CST in writing as to why they refused to take up the mantle on res 12?

Thetic

I don’t see us smashing sevco they have played to their game plan week after week We thought they would be showen up in Europe , but they are hard to breakdown. The only way we are going to win this league is to keep grinding and hope the men in black let us have a fair fight That has a slim to no chance as history has proven
Remember how bouyant the we all were prior to the meeting at Celtic Park early in the season ,what have we done to see a different outcome.

McCaff

Evening al, despite the upturn in our fortunes – and despite the negativity – too many are still writing us off. I watched their game against the Hibees and there are definite weaknesses there, not least a chink in their confidence. They struggled when Hibs put them under pressure. They’re not the best defensively, their full back positions are too easily exploited if you’re willing to have a go. Davis looked off the pace and that is an area we should be looking to press Turnbull onto him to give him no room to build the play. Kent has been a big player for them but against Hibs he looked frustrated at things not coming off for him that worked earlier in the season. Roofe looks a danger and shifts from side to side and comes deep – he could be a problem for us. To be fair McGregor has been well protected by the centre backs but too many teams have been afraid to hit them and have sat deep to try to stop their counters. I think we need to be positive and try to take the game to them. As Oglach says a convincing performance and win will not only show them why we are Quadruple champs but should also give them sometihng to think about in the second half of the season.

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THETIC

I agree 100% that this will be a difficult game,and that both sides know the importance of it. And also of the effect of the MIBs. It needs 100% commitment from everyone,nothing else will do.

Thetic

We have to be invincibles for the rest of the season not one off day. If they can pull that off they truly will go down as one of Celtics best ever

Thetic

Here’s a true story I have heard people say you cannot win every game,well that does not go down well with me when I watch Celtic. Even in preseason friendlies when we are trying new formations and tactics my heart over rules my brain, in my 70s you would think I would have mellowed and should know better
My cousin a dyed in the wool bluenose was on her dying bed we were playing the new creation , it was the only time I thought to myself if they beat us and it gives her some joy in her last few days I can take it. Alas we beat them and she passed soon after. I can honestly say that’s the only time I didn’t care if we lost

big packy

have faith you ghuys, as i told magua and aswgl last night, may 67 i was at ibrox, kept saying to my uncle packy they are going to win this league, have faith packy said, thats was his motto, anyway we drew 2-2 and won the league, you know something if he was alive now and seen the shenanigans with our board well it would be x certificate stuff nuff said, h,h,

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