The New Normal?

Morning,all.

 

Tonight sees the return of football to the screens of the Celtic support with sadomasochistic tendencies. The year ended badly for us on and off the pitch,and the new one has,if anything,been worse! We have effectively surrendered our cherished league title,and carelessly abandoned any hold we had on the moral high ground. Our ill-intentioned trip to summer camp saw to that,allowing a rent-a-quote First Minister to put the boot in just at a time when she was under fire herself for breaching covid restrictions,not to mention” irregularities” in her part in the prosecution of her predecessor.

 

Never give a sucker an even break,but it seems to be the one thing that Celtic still excel at. And it seems that we are happy to play fast and loose with our favours too. Got a problem? That’s fine. Celtic will shoot themselves in the foot again,take the pressure off you. That’s what happens when you don’t have a proper PR representation,as many of us have been warning of for years.

 

Much of this would matter little,if only our footballing side of things wasn’t such a shambles. And it is. Look at it-who is our first-choice goalkeeper? Does anyone know for sure? Or have implicit trust in the same way that we had for a blissful fourteen years from the arrival of The Holy Goalie? Four goalkeepers,whose combined fees were half of what we paid for the current one,and if I’m honest I would take Artur back even now!

 

Our star player is playing upfront and we are watching a flowering talent wilt before our eyes. With players of enormous talent-and value!-benched and out the picture,and the only bright spots being previously ignored lads in midfield,both barely out of their teens.

 

Yet our famously unreliable backline has the biggest problems. Taylor isn’t as rated by most as I think he deserves to be,and that alone must be affecting his confidence. Laxalt is a terrific player,clearly supremely fit,but cannot provide a final ball. Not helped of course,that their forward connection,Mo,doesn’t think football is a team game. Right back is even worse-as we don’t have one! Elhamed doesn’t want to be here,Ralston has as much chance of making it at Celtic as I have,and Frimpers is being used further forward to cover an area criminally exposed by playing James Forrest while he had a stress fracture.

 

And then there is our central defence. Or Kris Ajer,as it is better known. Another player who would prefer to be elsewhere,and doesn’t even enjoy playing at centre back. In fairness to him,his performances have been excellent despite that. But who do we have to partner him,whether as a two or a three? Bitton,suspended,and not even a good midfielder. Jullien,out for the season. Welch,inexperienced and not up to scratch-yet,at least. And Duffy,who is just the most unlikely bomb scare ever,but sadly that is what he is. So one more injury away from disaster.

 

And with less than three weeks of the transfer window left-one made more complicated by Brexit,but known about in advance-our footballing department,our recruitment department,are showing no sign of doing their jobs in these vital areas. We have a lame duck manager,yes-but he is in charge of a lame duck football team. And he is controlled,like the rest of the entire company is controlled,by a lame duck director of everything except accepting responsibility. Or delegating it.

 

Get used to life in the slow lane? We can only dream of such heady days.

 

Above article by BMCUWP

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GER57

My sleep pattern is totally awry. I’m completely scunnered by what’s gone on in football, the pandemic, lack of leadership throughout society.
The main point is that most people aren’t fully aware of what’s going on ; and they don’t really care until a crisis hits. Then it’s,”What’s going on? How did that happen? Aye, too many immigrants.”
Celtic will win the ten easy. Wtf? Right, sack Lennon. Blah, blah. Many of us do know the score, but we are sidelined as “malcontents” or some such. So now that the mineshafters predictions from 2012 onwards have come to pass, many more are coming onto sites like this for better info and the brilliant comments. Problem is, too many still don’t care enough to get more involved. Plus, many don’t like the idea of criticising Celtic and other Celtic fans. We must remember that we are very much the minority among the support.
The PLC will only listen to fans if not doing so hits the bottom line. I can’t see enough fans boycotting the club to bring them down, unless there is a campaign by a tightly organised group who don’t antagonise others in the support. Good luck with that.
So is it a valid tactic to buy up shares to form a bloc of say 20%? It’s gonna take years to achieve even that. Sure DD and the vulture capitalist could sell their combined stock to someone like the Glaziers while we look on helpless.
The Huns are running on dodgy finance. Nobody seems to care, even although the exact same behaviour caused the original club’s liquidation. Nevertheless, I can see them tooling up their squad for CL Qualifiers and so achieve almost financial parity with us. Surely then the PLC will be forced to act to protect its financial position. No?
Why oh why does Celtic never invest when we’re on top? The Quality St Gang were allowed to disperse, Billy McNeill wasn’t backed in the early 80s, Martin O’Neill was shunted into the slow lane, and now this whimpering capitulation. I could take the disappointment of losing if it was the natural ebb and flow of competitive sport. But we know it’s not. It’s fixed. We have ex referees on paid speaking gigs in Rangers and Orange clubs boasting about dodgy decisions. The 5WA. Denying liquidation. Jeez!!
Just maybe enough folk will react when the Hordes go on full WATP mode as the league is settled. We will sound like bad losers, entitled etc etc.
The same board members have been in post too long. Most PLCs change their non exec directors every three years or so. Brian Wilson’s been on the board for 25. Ridiculous.
I can’t see them budging on any issue. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lenny was kept on next season. That’ll be fun.

Twisty

Ger
Excellent opening post to the equally excellent leader. I was sitting thinking what I could add / contribute, but you’ve pretty much encapsulated most of my own thoughts.
What did stir some memories for me was your very opening line.

“ My sleep pattern is totally awry”

I can empathise. It’s fairly well known on here I don’t sleep long. 5 hours or so. Twas not always so. As a young man, I slept fine. Averaged 7 or 8 hours. Unless we were playing Rangers, which had me struggling to sleep at all the night before the match. My mum used to plead with me not to go to the match as she saw how unsettled I was pre match.
Her plea fell on deaf ears and she’d be left hoping for a victory for the hoops which would inevitably see my mood take a dramatic turn for the better.

It may well be an age thing but though I wouldn’t take advice back then, I do accept that Celtic issues are occupying far too much of my thoughts these days. When you consider the state of the wider world, the health and business implications of other issues, Covid, Brexit, the environment etc, and the mental health issues they can promote, you’ve gotta be some kind of fool to worry about a football team? Right?

You’d think so but actually no. If ever we needed a further reminder of how much of an emotional attachment Celtic play in our lives, we are seeing it now.

Perhaps throughout these other external pressures I refer to, we actually needed Celtic more than ever? A welcome distraction from the negative stuff. Yet the truth is, most of us feel more let down now than at anytime in the past. The team performance, the board performance, the government performance. All around us we are taking a kicking, and there seems no light at the end of the tunnel. The ‘in fighting’ is growing too, and recent discussions on the CT provide proof of that.

I’m not normally one for throwing in the towel, believe me, but that’s what I’m slowly but surely veering towards. Just write this entire season off and start again. I feel like we are experiencing death from a thousand cuts.
The problem is of course, all that seems likely to change, is the manager. Which in all likelihood, will lead to some on field improvements, but the bigger picture?

What an absolute shit show. “All dressed up and nowhere to go” has never been more appropriate. No leadership, no plan.

Maybe some Celtic minded multi millionaire is sitting somewhere realising that lots of money in the bank doing nothing is pointless and will offer a inflated price to buy up a major shareholding.

Then again perhaps Rachel Riley will call me today to invite me over to her place?

Need to go. My phones ringing. Couldn’t be could it?

Auldheid

Twisty
Ger57

I was sleeping ok but the pole snapped and Igor was self isolating. Luckily the floor broke my fall..
From previous page.
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In the season of honest mistakes I used the analogy of watching the bowling ball in a run to the jack.

You could see the swerve in action that meant the bowl did not run straight towards the jack.

However we all knew why, there was an inbuilt bias in the shape of the bowl.

It is back in play in Scottish football this season and as far as I’m concerned CELTIC have done SFA to get a football on the park sticking to the analogy.

Two games where Rangers normally would be expected to drop points 11v 11.

Not to mention the number of penalties or failures to book or red card their players.

The only time I saw a referee not display bias was the game they lost to St Mirren.

How the feck doing nothing about this charade is not in the Company’s interest I do not know.

Reminds me of the time in March 2010 (Yup over 10 years ago) I got the CST to put refereeing and the video review process on the Agenda at an Open Meeting where the poppy on the jersey was the only item.

The difference then was it was in Celtic’s interest to act on the resolution coming from the floor of that meeting but that was pre The 5 Way Agreement.

As is my way I wrote an article for Not The View and on reading over the part in respect of refereeing I am posting it here. I’m not sure if the Heading now should be Plus ca change or Deja Vu.

20 March 2010 Open Meeting Observations.
The Honest Mistakes.
No Celtic supporter needs telling the background for this addition to the Meeting’s agenda. Feelings were running high about what looks like blatant favouring of Rangers by match officials or those responsible for appointing them at the SFA as well as how the SFA administer the disciplinary rules. The problem was what to do about a system that the Celtic support have lost confidence in.

The proposal put forward below was discussed. The feeling from some was that the language could be stronger, more direct and down to earth. The counter argument was that to do that might open opportunities for those, only too keen to do so, to deflect from the central message that all Celtic wanted was a level playing field on which to play the game, which was the SFA’s responsibility to deliver. The fact that other Scottish teams might feel the same way was seen as another reason to support the proposal although the mood of the meeting was it had to be clear that the message of loss of confidence came directly from a Celtic support that put a lot of money into Scottish Football.

The proposal was intended to set a goal, something against which future progress could be measured, but the feeling in the room was also to back it up with some teeth. The pros and cons of boycotting some away games was discussed and a show of hands indicated a large number there were in favour, (although that was still not an indicator of wider support), but the logistical difficulties of organising something effective quickly combined with the sacrifice having to be borne by a few, meant nothing immediate could be considered in boycott terms. However if there were no signs of Celtic and SFA action on the proposal then organised boycotts of certain away games next season were not ruled out of the question.

Other easier ways of demonstrating the supporters’ dissatisfaction, like turning their backs on play for a time or brandishing red cards at referees and the SFA, to make our feelings known to the world were also discussed and these ideas are still under consideration to underpin the following proposal agreed at the Meeting that Celtic be asked to convey to the SFA. It may be embellished before being passed on but the core message speaks for itself:

The Proposal
1. As a result of evidence accumulated during this football season 2009/10, the Celtic support in all forms, who are major contributors to the financial well being* of the game in Scotland, have lost all confidence in the ability of the Scottish Football Association (SFA) to administer professional football in Scotland in manner that reflects their duty of care to all aspects of the game and everyone who takes part in it.

2. The lost confidence will only be restored by the implementation of policies and procedures covering four major areas of concern viz:
(i) Transparency in Appointments Procedures
(ii) Transparency in Disciplinary Procedures
(iii) Accountability of all Office Holders
(iv) An Annual and Independent Audit of SFA Policies,
Appointments and Disciplinary Procedures.
3. The Celtic support asks Celtic to convey our concerns and their provenance to the appropriate authorities as they see fit viz:
• Football Authority in Scotland (The SFA)
• and Europe (UEFA)
• Civil authority (on the issue of proper governance.)

4. We note the Review of Scottish Football being conducted by Henry McLeish and ask if his terms of reference agreed with the SFA cover the issues described above and if not, why not and will they be added?
* Note: As a club, we are 1 member of the SFA (i.e. 2.5% share of voice), however as supporters with average gates of 55,000+ then we represent approx 33% of the 170,000 CUSTOMERS who pay to watch Scottish Football.
Having 2.5% customer dissatisfaction is a problem,33% is a disaster waiting to happen.

The Commitments.
Remember them? If this great Open Meeting adventure is not to fail as The Commitments did, and some of the difficulties stemming from lack of authority and mandate were evident in the conduct of the meeting, some form of informal structure is required. Now if that is not Irish neither were my ancestors, but just because it is Irish it can be done. Like the Commitments, the Open Meeting has to find a way to transform itself into an entity that sings Celtic soul songs that others will want to listen to. Songs created from the Celtic heart, with passion for sure, but songs with reason and purpose:

• The overall purpose always being the ongoing prosperity, spiritually and materially of Glasgow Celtic.

However, despite the quality of their songs the Commitments ultimately failed because the needs of the individuals took precedence over the group. If the Open Meeting is to become the lobby, a forum where the Celtic support can voice their concerns knowing that they will be transformed into songs that will be listened to, then Group and individual egos are going to have to be suspended at times for that greater good.

The shape and form of a relevant informal structure are being looked at by those involved in the Open Meeting process and will be published in accessible places for consultation and feedback from those interested in taking part as they are developed.

Thetic

I hope someone reposts Auldheid post from last night. Talk about History repeating itself, he said it was only 10 years ago.” O” wait a minute it hasn’t changed in ten years as a matter of fact the refereeing was like that before I started going to games mid fifties
I cancelled my CTV , Tomorrow morning I don’t have to get up early to watch the game and honestly if I had CTV I don’t know if I would get up early to watch,I hope the support wakes up to what is going on.

Thetic

As I was writing Auldheid posted 5 ***** post

Twisty

Need to be in Hillington at 8am so I’ll check in later and respond to above posts.

Ger

Where you based?

big packy

BOBBY, good post as are all the posts this morning, i dont want neil lennon to be given any money for players, in fact i dont want neil lennon, mr peter heated driveway lawwell runs celtic football club, mores the pity, somehow we must stand together and do something to get these masonic tories out, ill join any organisation that is willing to fight this board.H.H.

Twisty, Ger57,

So True.

In the midst of all that is going on at the moment it is not unreasonable to think that we could at least turn our thoughts towards Celtic to get some light relief and enjoyment. We could even cope with the other side of the coin and be aware of and discuss the rottenness of football governance in Scotland. Including our corrupt, colluding, scheming, stinking, greedy Board of directors.

But when our board’s incompetence spills over to ‘on the pitch’ matters even more than usual then it becomes depressing. I rarely look at a fixture now with absolute certainty of a win.

The worst thing is the feeling that only actions like starving the club of funds and having a driven focal point such as the Trust might be, is the answer. I don’t hold out much hope for either in the immediate time frame.

Having said that, it’s still worthwhile coming on here to get it off your chest, sometimes have a laugh, discuss the playing side – occasionally that’s good! And if you want a chit chat, share some music, there’s always the night shift!

I remember being at school we were taught that you never, ever, begin a sentence with the word AND. But as I understand it, it is now acceptable at Oxbridge as a means to adding an afterthought!

For the past decade a growing habit is, in live spoken interviews, beginning a reply with ‘So……’. They think they are being posh and intellectual. Rubbish!

Oglach

Rumours (i know🙄) that Celtic are anxiously awaiting a decision from the Scots Gov ‘track and trace’ team. Could massively impact line up for tonight’s game.

FUBAR CSC

fan-a-tic

BMCUWP
Excellent!!!!

Oglach
If the track and trace guys are good at their jobs could we use them to find an absentee landlord,CEO and coach who own up to their failings and claim responsibility ?

bada bing1

If the team and management squad are decimated tonight, Lawwell could end up in the dugout, where he thinks he belongs…

Friesdorfer

Good Morning all

Excellent article and posts today 👏 👍

JtT 53 at 8.43 am: 100% spot on summary, that certainly encapsulates my feelings, and I suspect those of many others.

Conjunctions, conjunctions…😉🙄

HH

bada bing1

Hearing a GK from the Development Squad has been added for tonight

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Just had a phone call there told to grab my boots and head up to the park sharpish

bada bing1

All Scottish football below championship to be suspended for 3 weeks. Championship must test players once a week. Scottish cup games set to be postponed.

bada bing1

13 players and 3 staff self isolating

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Bada bing grab your boots

bada bing1

I posted last week of we get a couple of cases,we will end up with a reserve team tonight…

bada bing1

Lawwell must resign

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

Inevitable outcome to this fiasco.

fan-a-tic

We are a well run club!!!!!

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

FAN-A-TIC

I think it will be a while till that mantra is parroted again.

bada bing1
BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

BADABING

No better at defending that than we have been at defending our goal this season.

CaltonTongues

Tonight’s Team Apparently?

https://postimg.cc/MchGLXWM

Rhaman currently being a BawBag

TMS

bada bing1

The Club has embarrassed the fans here,totally unacceptable, as is that excuse of a statement, Lawwell must go

Friesdorfer

Epic fail by CEO, Chairman and Manager for allowing this trip to go ahead in current circumstances. Aside from other known issues, they should be “resigned” by end of today latest.
How long must this cluster… go on?

iki

Anyone returning from Dubai from 3rd January has now to quarantine.
8 days ago.

Is this the first time that quarantine rules have been backdated?

Anyone know?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

IKI

It’s accepted wisdom that new laws/regulations are not applied retrospectively. Retrospective law is bad law.

However,it could be argued that this is not retrospective,as Celtic are always treated differently. And we always will while we simply accept it.

Twisty

Ffs. What a day this is turning into.

Rushing around this morning. Made it to Hillington for 8am despite the M8 being absolutely rammed. Lockdown? Doesn’t seem so.

2 choices. Hang about for 3 hours waiting on car being serviced or head home and back again. Thought “ they’re saying 3 hours, probably be 4. I’ll head back home”

Sod’s law. Call after 2.5 hours. Car ready. Ffs. Back through I go. M8 admittedly a bit quieter but torrential rain slowing me up somewhat.

Got a service plan with that Jaguar which cost me around £1100. That covers 3 services.

Got back home and realised the Range Rover due a service in March . Thought I’d book it in today. Gets it booked in for 1st March. Said to the guy, “ just out of curiosity, how much will it be?”

£440 sir.

“ ffs it’s a one year service it needs not a respray!”

Geez oh.

Text message when I looked at phone. Celtic squad self isolating. Hibs 4/1 .

Jings crivvens and help ma boab. What to do. No win situation. Back Hibs and hope to lose money? Hope to win money which means Celtic losing? Think I’ll just leave it. That means a draw is now a bloody certainty. Shafted all ways

Open mail. Taxman wants £7k from me.

Alarm company want £400.

Thinking of getting the shirt off my back packaged up and posted to Hector.

Now I’ve just seen the club statement. What a pile of horse manure. Are we just bending over then? That’s how it looks.

Mind you, if NL is now isolating, who is setting out the tactics tonight. Reserve team coach Tommy McIntyre? Might be a blessing!

Though, thinking on, ATOB this could be your chance to get in there and take over for a game!

Gonna hide for the rest of the day to avoid any possibility of any more bad news.

Awe Naw

Big Christopher was invited to Scott Arfield’s Birthday party but refused to attend due to social distancing rules.

Friesdorfer

Twisty – things can only get better, can’t they 🤞

Awe Naw – 🙄

bada bing1
GER57

Oh dear. We go to Dubai for a training camp after which for the past 4 years, we have gone on a great run and won trophies. This year our squad gets Covid and we must play the kids v Hibs.
Magic, fucking magic.
The irony is that the virus could have been in the squad before it left. Whatever, it was a poor decision to go, and by God, the media will pile in.
Our 1st minister has correctly called Celtic’s judgement into question. How humiliating.
Surely Lawwell cant survive this.

JimmynotPaul

Well, absolutely no one, needed hindsight to see that shit show would happen.
I’m with you Bada, heads must roll.
An unbelievably arrogance around the club, right now.
They know better than anyone.
The statement, that it could have happened here.
Two things, one it didnt!!
If it had, less players would have been out because of the way the bubble works.

GER57

Btw, Twisty I live in Ayr.

bada bing1

Hibs 7/4 from 13/2

Twisty

Ger
If it’s ok with you for Mahe /Bobby to drop me yer mail addy I got something you might be interested in.

Twisty

Ger

Ayr?

PF country. You know PF Ayr? From CQN days?

Gordon64

The way this season is shaping up, I’m awaiting the Celtic tweet saying Hoopy has had to be put down 😷

“The Club would like to thank the Scottish FA, JRG and the Scottish Government for their assistance in managing this case.”

” From the outset of the pandemic, Celtic has worked closely with the Scottish Government and Scottish football and we will continue to do so.”
(Celtic statement)

Nothing new there then. Celtic hand in hand with the SFA. And our best pals – wee jimmy krankie & co.

Sack the Board!

JimmynotPaul

Twisty.
FFS.
That’s a brutal day, so far.
Hopefully it will improve.

CaltonTongues

Still strong team for tonight from availability – not self isolating:

Select an 11 from these….

Bain
Frimpong
Ajer
Welsh
Laxalt
McGregor
Soro
Turnbull
Christie
Ntcham
Edouard
Griffiths
Elyounoussi

TMS

Gordon64

Players Out
Julien
Barka
Hazard
Taylor
Ralston
Henderson
Johnson
Ajeti
Brown
El Hamed
Rogic
Bitton
Klimala

CaltonTongues

Gordon64,

That’s the list I got hence list to choose a still strong team.

TMS

Gordon64

CT 👍 How many on the list of players out would have started tonight 🤔

bada bing1

This is a worse situation than when I went to the Celts for Change rallies, change had to happen, this has happened from a huge position of strength, and we only have ourselves to blame

bada bing1

Team for tonight apparently

Bain

Frimpong
Ajer
Welsh
Laxalt

Soro
Calmac
Turnbull
Christie

Griff
Eddy

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