The Great Reset.

Morning,all.

 

I reckon the title of today’s article might have had one or two of you choking on your cornflakes this morning. Surely Mick hasn’t joined the QAnon,covid-conspiracist,anti-vaxxer brigade? He’s not about to warn us of The Rise Of The Lizard King? Or mass microchipping of the population at the behest of Bill Gates? Panic not,folks. That is fantasyland,the province of the tinfoil-chapeau. What I want to discuss is much more serious,and I advise you to finish your cornflakes before reading it.

 

Celtic FC is our common bond,and has been for as long as we have been alive and sentient. And it has not been in such peril since the bad old days of “The Families” who led us to the brink of insolvency in 1994. Back then,few of us would have laid the blame at their door on the grounds of malice,but simply on the grounds of incompetence. How refreshing it was to have them replaced by a series of competent and professional people with a successful business background,even if we sometimes bemoaned a lack of what we viewed as necessary immediate investment on the pitch in favour of reinforcing the financial strength of the company for the medium to long term.

 

Looking back,it is difficult to pick out any instances when Fergus McCann denied funds to Tommy Burns when he asked for new players. The problems tended to arise with Fergus when those players requested an improvement in their contract. We saw too many players during his tenure demand a move as a result,too many decide to sit tight,see out their contract and leave for nothing. Realising that he might not be entirely suited to play all the roles that he had been doing,he employed a General Manager-who would in modern parlance be a Director of Football-to deal with the things that he knew he had proven incapable of.

 

The decision to make that appointment was the correct one,made with the benefit of the club in mind,regardless of how it might affect his overall level of control. Sadly for Fergus,the appointee Jock Brown proved to be an even more polarising figure,and the experiment itself was proven to be a disaster. The removal of Brown saw the team return to form immediately,and the General Manager shirt was retired.

 

The twenty-plus years since have seen times when a general manager probably wasn’t needed-such as the Martin O’Neill era and the beginning of the Brendan Rodgers one. These guys knew what they wanted,and why they wanted it. Even the early days of Gordon Strachan saw his requests being met,but far too often since the last years of O’Neill,the ultimate decision was being left to one man,just as in the early days of Fergus. With the notable difference that this one man wasn’t the Fergus type who could be persuaded of the wisdom of a signing,and who would move heaven and earth to make it so. This was a new breed of Chief Executive,the type who provided the tools to the minions regardless of whether they were the right ones.

 

“I employ people to do a job,and I give them the tools to do it. If the tools are useless,not the ones they expected,that’s tough. I know best”

 

It would be churlish to deny the evidence of these methods working-the list of honours won during this period is there for all to see. And it would be bloody idiotic not to notice that any time there is a challenge,the club is unable to meet it,our CEO unable to react to it. This is not a man who can think on his feet,or analyse current situations and challenges which have arisen contrary to his modelling. This is a man who writes his commandments on tablets of stone,the type who rides the high fashion stakes and who,when his plans are no longer fashionable or workable,puts them back in the cupboard and hopes for that cycle to come round again.

 

No-one is brave enough to tell him to make a decision,and he hasn’t got it in him to make one for himself. “Those grandfather shirts will be back in fashion some day,and I’ll have the last laugh when I dust off my old ones while you lot have to pay through the nose for new ones!” And so it is that we still have our own grandfather shirt in the cupboard marked Manager,while the rest of the game takes turns at ripping the piss out of us at every turn.

 

There is little doubt then that our CEO has long outlived his usefulness,that his days of innovation are long a thing of the past. Not so much autocratic as dictatorial,he brooks no dissent whatsoever-indeed any input from others is actively discouraged to the point of dismissal. He has brought about his own Downfall,and his recent appearance on Celtic TV saw a man who was struggling with the very idea that his methods were even being questioned. His apology that day was clearly a new concept for him,an ill-thought out and incoherently delivered mishmash of nothing. A bit like his promise to have a review of the club this month,which we are now told will be acted upon at the end of the season. Maybe he is auditioning for the Denis Nordern role in a new It’ll Be Alright On The Night.

 

Which means that he stays in place,and so does our manager. That’s the man with seven wins from twentytwo matches since the end of the summer transfer window. But it is also the man who has delivered five titles as a manager,and won the same number as a player. A bona-fide legend in the eyes of most of us,a player who played football in a way which few of us had seen before.

 

Neil Lennon played The Makalele Role long before Claude Makalele did. And he stepped in after the disaster of Tony Mowbray. Should those three titles first time around have been four? Aye,probably. Given what he was up against,I’m willing to forego that as a learning curve for a new manager. And he was available to get us over the line when Rodgers abruptly left us two years ago,completing The Rebel Treble Treble. Right man at the right time for those few months,and no doubt about it. But as the long-term replacement? Surely not.

 

For what had Neil learned,how had the learning curve progressed,in the nine years since he first became a manager? Certainly nothing new,you only had to hear his comments about new technology. He clearly hadn’t learned much about how to utilise set-pieces to our advantage-and worse,nothing about how to defend them. But worst of all,he had nothing at all,new or otherwise,about how to coach players to bring out the best in them. All he had to offer was his motivational skills.

 

Since then,we have seen the team going backwards quite simply because they aren’t being coached. Not a single player has been shown how to bring about improvement in their game,and even worse is that none has shown the slightest desire to sign a new contract while he has been in charge. The players know that their careers are in a cul-de-sac,and cannot wait to get away-and due to those poor performances and diminishing lengths left on their contracts,the club is going to receive a fraction of their worth two years ago. Looks like his much-vaunted motivational skills aren’t much bloody use,to be honest.

 

The titles won during the tenures of Lawwell and Lennon are undeniable,let me make that plain. The cost to the club of their disastrous reigns are equally undeniable. Fergus and Tommy Burns faced a huge rebuilding job in 1994-but it was from a position of weakness brought about by their predecessors. The rebuilding job facing the successors to Lawwell and Lennon in the summer-because to keep either of them in position would be an act of supreme folly-is probably much greater.

 

What a legacy that is for them to leave behind.

 

Above article by BMCUWP

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Mahe

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Twisty

Morning all
Absolutely nothing I can disagree with in today’s article. The sense of hopelessness a lot of Celtic supporters harbour at present is tangible. The saddest part for a lot of us is that it was so unnecessary. We had the opportunity to accelerate clear of the field. Did we fail in our effort to do so, or choose not to? The latter would have seemed a ridiculous suggestion not so many years ago. The evidence of recent years suggests otherwise.

Looking through today’s Celtic news and the most interesting for me is the one re David Low’s comments re Neil Lennon.

“ HIS EXIT IS BEING CHOREOGRAPHED BY THE BOARD. WE MAY WELL END UP WITH ANOTHER INTERIM MANAGER, SIMILAR SCENARIO TO ROGERS’ DEPARTURE.

— DAVID LOW (@HEAVIDOR) JANUARY 23, 2021”

I’ve said for months we would be looking at an interim manager. If it is to be an interim manager, a Kennedy, or a Strachan, then our European ambitions ( if indeed we still harbour any ambitions for Europe) take another hit.

I’m curious as to whether David Lowe is speculating that the exit is being “choreographed”, or, is speaking from a position of having inside information.

If it’s the latter, that sets of alarm bells for me for a different reason.

Angel Gabriel

Morning Mick .
Not been on for a couple of days. Celtic ain’t good for my mental health at the moment. Scunnered.

Good article, this is an established trend on here that deserves a bigger audience.

One point and one question.

My point is the comfort zone within Celtic PLC . Have any of our non executive directors questioned the managerial policy that’s keeping a guy in place that’s not up to the task ? Did the question Res12 ? The transfer / recruitment policy ? The recklessness of going to Dubai . I remember being told our corporate policy of having non executive directors, would prevent us ever going down the same road of the deadly bears .

My question.
Why , and on what basis , ( articles of association ,rules etc ) can the SFA decide if the Livi manager is a fit & proper person ?
Dave King ? Sir Minty ? The previous Dundee owners ?
The Lithuanian Jambo ? Gretna ( liquidated ) ?

There’s also no Financial Fair Play .
Our game is up here , really is a an hallucination of governance.

Scott

The Great Reset is a proposal by the World Economic Forum (WEF) to rebuild the economy sustainably following the COVID-19 pandemic. It was unveiled in May 2020 by the United Kingdom’s Prince Charles and WEF director Klaus Schwab.

“Conspiracy” aye? Come on pal.

https://www.weforum.org/great-reset/

“You’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy”

Thetic

Great leader. I agree that the players are not improving they are regressing. I know we have a big rebuild, but these players are not as bad as their results that is one plus to work on.
If we are going with an intern coach I hope they appoint Kennedy, that way we will know if he is a coach or not. I know most of us think we know the answer to that but he seems to be part of the PLCs structure and don’t be surprised if he survives another Managerial change He has been able to live in the shadows needs to be in the spotlight so we can have a complete clear out

Dubaibhoy

Big Shuggy – one of my heroes of the dark days of 77-79 – RIP. A player of limited ability that always gave 100%.

big packy

BOBBY, brilliant post as was mahes @ 1-43,, but ill keep saying it, in fact ill scweem and ill scweem again ,nothing will happen till the whole tory masonic caball, get booted down london road, never to bee seen again. now what a celebration that would be.H.H.

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DUBAIBHOY

Limited but versatile! Definitely a 100% commitment player,and a cult hero.

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BIGPACKY

MAHE’s post was a cracker. For those who missed it overnight,here it is.
******
Mahe

AweNaw,
As far as timelines and rough draft goes we are in agreement.

SDM buys them and they become essentially a lodge, can wash money ala Dave King 20 in 15 out.
He and they become huge.

Fergus arrives, sees the dirty side of things but isn’t staying. Reckons money and power needed to fight money and power so brings in the Coolmore mafia or so he thinks.

Dermot initially loves his toy seeing it as a route to the EPL, but that is cut off by a closed shop mentality. He discovers the murkiness up north when told they are using EBTs alongside running up eye watering debt that would get Celtic closed.

This murkiness culminates in the honest mistakes, which the club are furious at and assemble a dossier of evidence like the Hugh Dallas sectarian email. In the background there’s a little war with our club wishing rules enforced. John Reid announces we will fight.

Our best QC passes away in mysterious circumstances and John is moved on, they get the titles and money that will apparently save them.

Financial crash hits and they are staring at death while we are fine. They die.

The PLC come up with the conclusion they must have a rival so can’t state publicly they died, but see the new club being eternally second best as we are bigger.

PLC want one year out of top flight only for punishment but the rest aren’t having it, division 4 it is. For the fans a sham inquiry is announced.

Peter is upset they went to Div4 announcing we just lost ten million per annum as a result, but the PLC anticipate beating the new club forever as we have bigger revenue so all is good.

The malarkey starts when the normal businessmen who buy the club are forced out helped by a shady media, and mason’s and/or crooks once take over Mordor through nefarious means.

Our PLC have been blindsided, and are furious. The SFA and SPFL both shrug shoulders, Uefa is too busy with its corruption charges etc plus doesn’t want another bad news story.
We have been shafted and everyone now is not having it, the PLC are coming under huge pressure from fans, four especially.

Dermot attempts to use his influence on the situation but is stymied. The powers that be hit back, with the door stepping, the Panama papers etc.

He publicly announces they are a great club and flies in to try and resolve the issue unsuccessfully then attends cup final were he may or may not have been embarrassed. He hits back in his own way, hiring Brendan with Celtic looking to tear away to the next level embarrassing Sevco.

Brendan badgered out the door despite knocking it out of the Park. Third rate manager brought in.

Covid hits and our fans fully financially support club but through incredible ineptitude off field plus a third rate manager we blow the ten and they are officially back with the number 55 plastered everywhere.
Alongside this club refuse to show strong commitment to transparency or seek answers regarding very expensive to public purse death of rival which only serves to raise fan frustrations.

SNP strongly kick club to gain standing in Unionist community and only manager hits back as he is most affected.

Summer reshuffle announced.

There’s some obvious questions and number one is probably why was Brendan pushed? Unseen pressures to abandon the proposed leave them in the dirt route?
That’s a route the light blue fans dread, and they would rather walk than be punching bags eternally.
Yet a strong Rangers must exist, so that route must be closed off. Funny enough it was. We know who badgered him, not why. Was he pressured by forces?

A strong Rangers had been deemed essential at the nations top levels in order to help steer the nations people in whichever direction chosen and maybe launder stuff.
Currently it looks like the SNP courting the vote as mentioned, but the probable Indy vote will have been factored in, as will life beyond that vote.

In that small backwater there was always the voice of reason in Westminster to appeal to should things threaten to cross any boundaries. Stepdad set the seemingly equal house rules and doled out the promised pocket money on time so was accepted.
When stepdad is spurned in Indyref2, a period of turmoil is probable. Should belts need severely tightened the minority communities will be hardest hit, not the primary voters. Some of the populace may get angry about the new status quo, most likely the minorities. To help silence them a pliant media will ignore them but maybe focus on minor issues as squirrels whilst the majority of the nation couldn’t give a flying as their club is helped to the majority of titles by all the levers of state either actively helping or turning a blind eye to malarkey. We get stringently policed and reported on of course.
Viola the ‘new’ status quo, a juiced club of the establishment bettering a rival held down by shady means, who’s fans will be called sore losers by the nations media, and will have nowhere to turn in their frustration.
And our owners, who couldn’t beat them before, they have no chance now they and their brethren are fully installed in the corridors of power pulling strings.
We threaten to walk they laugh and say go ahead we win the league forever.
Uefa don’t care.
Checkmate Timmy.

Call me paranoid but that’s the plan my man.
Like Elvis sang,,I’m caught in a trap.

January 25, 2021 1:43 am

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I see our foul-mouthed troll aka TLR has made his return.

Senga

Oh deary me

The Gombeen Man

Good article this morning BMCWPS,

Not a happy subject matter but compelling stuff. It’s ironic that the record breaking season of Sevco is being played out in empty stadiums.

55 Titles in 9 years. That’s some going. Forget World Records that’s miraculous.

I saw your post on Friday. I’ll mail Mahe later and ask him to forward it to you. I’d appreciate your input/view on something.

RIP, Shuggie.

HH

Auldheid-a-

Football as an industry is unlike normal business. If a business goes bust, its customers go elsewhere, if a football club goes bust its supporters dont.

Unlike normal business football clubs depend entirely on other clubs existing in order to exist, a microcosm of humanity really , which humanity forgets by and large and so football is perceived through that fog of forgetfulness..

The term to cover football as an industry is that it is interdependent but to work clubs have to stick to the rules or risk putting the industry in jeopardy.

Rangers did that but what made matters worse was not just interdependency but codependency.

The dictionary definition of that is:

Codependent relationships signify a degree of unhealthy clinginess, where one person doesn’t have self-sufficiency or autonomy,” says Scott Wetzler, PhD, psychology division chief at Albert Einstein College of Medicine. “One or both parties depend on their loved ones for fulfillment.” Anyone can become codependent

I think that is a factor not covered sufficiently in the theories put forward but once factored in makes Celtic’s position as a business clearer vis a vis “Rangers”

How much does codependency spill into the support is a question only each individual can answer, but my complaint about Celtic is their total failure to recognise and deal with the toxic nature of the relationship they went at lengths to protect without making any attempt to change the relationship into an interdependent one where the rules are followed.

Funnily enough, although the point seems to have been missed by some, but in Res11 (not 12 ) at 2020 AGM Celtic stated they would engage with the relevant authorities on the abandonment of the Judicial Panel Disciplinary Tribunal that charged Rangers with non compliance with UEFA licence in 2011, that’s right where the rules the game depends on were set aside.

For Celtic not to tackle the rules abandonment issue is to doom us into a continuing toxic codependent relationship. All the more reason to keep the pressure on you would think.

At my first Open Meeting in St Mary’s in 2010 I stood beside Mark McGees Magic Eyeliner from CQN and on hearing feedback from the Chair on Celtic”s stance on an issue, we both said at same time ” Celtic need to grow a set” (of balls”.)

That is even more apt now, but that cannot be done by the man who kept the unhealthy relationship alive and has shown during Res12 years no real appetite for a fight. Plenty of handbag waving but no bare knuckle.

Not only should Celtic be moving out of codependency as a matter of policy, they should actively be taking every step possible to ensure rules are applied. How can they ask supporters to renew if rules are not enforced?

Given this is in every clubs interest to see happen as they get humped every week, this is where Celtic need to be active on reform and if that means a more equitable sharing of the income Scottish football does generate, would that be a bad thing to become a healthy club we enjoy supporting free of toxicity?

fan-a-tic
Chalmersbhoy

Morning bhoys/ghirls

update 25/1/21

Bada..1 pts.. 102
Vp..1pt..87
McCaff.. 3pts..87
Bmcuwp..0pt..85
Atob..3pts..85
Lct.. 6pts..83
Garry..0pts..81
Chalm..3pts..80
G64..1pt..78
Mahe..2pts..77
C76..1pt..75
Trm..2pts..73
Jnp..no entry 72
Cce.. 0pts..72
Ccb..0pts..68
Well done to Leftclicktic who got 2 correct.scores.
Mahe,Atob have taken your first post of scores..

Fixtures for mid week

Dundee Utd18:00 St Mirren

Ross County18:00 Motherwell

St Johnstone18:00 Aberdeen

Celtic19:45 Hamilton

Hibernian19:45 Rangers

Livingston19:45 Kilmarnock
Beware of early kick off times..

Good luck on your predictions..
HH.

Superb reading during the week..
Still scunnered..csc..

bada bing1

Lampard sacked

fan-a-tic

Football can be joyous.

bada bing1

Some big hitters in EK,have lumped on Mark Hughes for manager

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BADABING

Lampard sacked? There’s the managerial merry-go-round theory bombed right away. Tuchel to replace him,and not Rodgers at the end of the season with Howe moving to Leicester. Etc.

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AULDHEID

I would be in favour of an 80/20 split for gates. I don’t think 50/50 is fair,as bigger grounds cost more in upkeep,but the current 100% model has too big an impact on the have-nots.

As for our apparent codependency with the huns,Celtic will never progress as we should while that mindset is in place. Yes,football needs competition-but not at the price that the game in Scotland has been all too willing to encourage.

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HUNCRUSHER/TLR

I think the expression you are looking for is that if you had another brain cell you would have eff all to mate it with.

Meanwhile,I’ll refrain from a battle of wits with an unarmed man. And btw,I’m not a fan of being called by my surname,ya ignorant twat.

Jobo Baldie

Chalmersbhoy – clearly I’m a bit late to the party but do folk email you their score predictions? If so, what’s the email address and I’ll give it a go.

bada bing1

Jobo- the scores link is posted periodically, and is first post every Saturday morning, if you scroll back to Saturday, post there

fan-a-tic

Hun crusher

Chalmersbhoy

Jobo.
As Bada says you can find the link to score predictor on Saturdays post”you don’t know what your doing”
You are welcome to play along.
HH.
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Auldheid-a-

AULDHEID

I would be in favour of an 80/20 split for gates. I don’t think 50/50 is fair,as bigger grounds cost more in upkeep,but the current 100% model has too big an impact on the have-nots.

As for our apparent codependency with the huns,Celtic will never progress as we should while that mindset is in place. Yes,football needs competition-but not at the price that the game in Scotland has been all too willing to encourage.

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An alternative that UEFA should be persuading the big clubs is in their long term interest, is to increase the solidarity payment to leagues for specific development and retention of young players and reduce the money they pay to individual clubs.
That focus on clubs, in Scotland in particular causes the conditions that make breaking the rules a chance worth taking.
If UEFA do it Celtic avoid complaints from those who want every penny they spend on Celtic not going elsewhere even though it is an absolute necessity in an interdependent industry that income is not hoarded by one club.

Noel Skytrot

Hun Crusher,
could you kindly refrain from hurling insults and threatening people on here, its infantile to do so and has no place on here.

Sol Kitts

Looks like someone’s lifted the stone and let the foul mouthed ranter into the light again. What makes him so angry all the time? Knowing everyone’s laughing at him? 😂😂😎

Auldheid-a-

Hun Crusher.

I think Swiss Rambler who is an accountant did a review of Celtic’s accounts in past 2 years.

Google him and see if he found anything amiss. His reputation and experience carries more weight than any blogger.

Google him and see if he addresses anything to support your point.
What you ask for requires a professional to look at it and Swiss Rambler is that.

Auldheid-a-

Hun Skelper

Try this SR report on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/SwissRamble/status/1330769169139240961?s=19

fan-a-tic

Sol Kitts

Sulk Tits? That’s very good, real show off, ain’t you? Looking forward to you being blocked again, then you can have a conversation in an empty room with all your friends. See ya.

Auldheid-a-

Hunskelper

I am not an accountant so would not speak with any authority on something I know I have no authority to speak to.

A great danger when researching is not on what you find but the meaning you give it which unconsciously can be to reinforce a preconceived view.

To guard against that you get others to look at what you find and see if they take the same meaning from it. A process that was applied during the construction of the Res12 Archive.

Why not set up a web site where your argument is open to scrutiny? Even in writing down the meaning you give a discipline of checking what is being said kicks in.

How do I know SW can be trusted?

How do you know he cannot?

Check his history. Solid gold.

Why do you think he cannot be?

Sol Kitts

Been a long time since I laughed so much. Keep them coming, Hunny, you’re a real tonic in a Covid lockdown. What’s the matter, your tinfoil hat nipping yer heid?

Twisty

Lampard bulleted.

I guess it won’t take long for the name to be linked to the manager position at CP.

bada bing1

Twists- 11/1….

bada bing1

8/1 Skybet

Twisty

Bada
What price Kennedy 😁

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TWISTY

I reckon Kennedy is a great bet,as the bookies pay out for a caretaker role.

bada bing1

Twists- 14/1 Skybet ,10/1 Bet Victor

Auldheid-a-

Hunskelper.

If you are familiar with the wee boy and starfish story you will know a difference can only be made one starfish at a time.

On the accounts somewhere in the past I tried to fill the gap in wage information between football and administration.

I’d need to revisit but making reasonable assumptions between what a regular employer would get their numbers and players and numbers I came up with answers that were within what was in the accounts.

I’ll see if I can find it and link to it. Nothing jumped out as evidence of undisclosed “milking” the problem being if its undisclosed there is no proof its undisclosed.

If folk pay little attention to what is provable as in Res12 you, with due respect, will be even less successful without proof.

McCaff

Hun Crusher…Mahe might be looking for a warm-up man for his new podcast, it could be the perfect job for a guy as funny as you! Just saying like…😉

McCaff

Yip, you’ve left everybody a bit cauld the day!!

Frodshambhoy

Twisty you are spot on.
The sense of hopelessness a lot of Celtic supporters harbour at present is tangible.

It’s a horrific year. Trump wins the election and “Rangers” win title number 55.
Some people in the MSM may challenge Trump’s view of the election result but I don’t think we will see any kickback against 55 titles in 9 years of existence.

Noel Skytrot

Give it a few hours and we’ll have the fish wrappers running headlines about “Lampard to Celtic”.

Fat Damon

Thanks for all the good work Hun Lover here’s a tune https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Ish-rrVp_I

Frodshambhoy

HC
Trump insists he won the election. That new team will insist they have won 55. After a while, Trump was called out. I’m not so sure the so called 55 will be called out in the wider world.
That will add to my current state of hopelessness.
In my view there is a connection in that both claims are/will be false. Seems it possible for truth to prevail in some places. Unfortunately Celtic are in Scotland so I don’t hold out much hope of a public exposition of the facts concerning “Rangers” title wins.

Troll Crusher

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