Our first podcast

After Saturdays shocker there was little desire to pen a match report, so instead we initiated a group chat between some regulars, recorded that chat, and we offer you our first podcast which has been an idea for a while but we felt it was the right time to take the plunge.


We are hoping not only that you enjoy the chat but also that some posters or lurkers will offer themselves to be guests on future episodes, variety being the spice of life and all that.


So simply push play on one of the links and go about your business, and give us your thoughts afterwards please. Enjoy.







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February 1, 2021 3:00 am

Happy Birthday Phil Collins, 70 years old.
Preferred Peter Gabriel, but love this Genesis song. Beautiful track.


February 1, 2021 3:11 am

Song for Senga and Mike in Toronto.
Why is it I love Canadian female singers?


February 1, 2021 3:15 am

My party piece at Ne’erday.
The greatest voice to come out of London.
Name me one better than Seal.


Bobby Murdochs
February 1, 2021 3:19 am


A better voice than SEAL,especially one from London,would be difficult. But form a different era,GORDON64 posted one last night.

Matt Monro.

Aye,his music is neither yours nor mine,but every time a recording of his is played on the radio,I stop what I’m doing so I can listen.

Bobby Murdochs
February 1, 2021 3:21 am

I listened back to the podcast yesterday afternoon. Obviously it was our first go at it and a few minor issues will resolve themselves in time,but it was a good listen-and an equally good chat wi the lads involved,for which my thanks.

Memo to self-sort out mic issues at my end. Heyho…

February 1, 2021 3:25 am

Also seems that I have a great face for radio and a great voice for Braille!

February 1, 2021 3:27 am

Garry because they’re brilliant

February 1, 2021 3:36 am

I was just a baby in a single end in Partick.
My mammy sang this song by the first Canadian voice I fell in love with.
Canadian Neil Young was next.
Joni was first.


February 1, 2021 3:41 am


I remember listening to a Canadian chanteuse about 25 years ago,Alanis Morisette,and hoping that none of my exes ever got a recording contract!

She totally trashed the guy!!!

February 1, 2021 3:54 am

That line.
Are you thinking about me when you fuck her.
Is probably the strongest phrase I have ever heard in a song by a female. If I had another daughter, she was being named Alanis. Love her.

February 1, 2021 3:59 am


Terrific album,but bloody hell…

February 1, 2021 4:00 am

My bhoy Ryan loves you and your dad, like me.
He, like me also loves Alanis.
This is his favourite song by her.


February 1, 2021 4:08 am

Jagged Little Pill is one of the best albums of the 90s.
Very underrated imo.

February 1, 2021 4:08 am


Ryan has good taste!

February 1, 2021 4:16 am

Aye. I agree.
The lassie he will marry this August, is proof of his great taste.
They just bought a top of the range camper van.
They plan to take a years honeymoon, and travel the world in it.
Kids wi their heads screwed on.

February 1, 2021 4:18 am


What a brilliant idea! Might as well do it while yer young,rather than look back wistfully on mighta,coulda,shoulda.

February 1, 2021 4:24 am

Wish I had done it.
Got as far as the Netherlands then Germany.
Preferred them both to Scotland.
But I was solo.
They will love that adventure, newly wed in mid 20s. Green with envy, but happy for them.

February 1, 2021 4:29 am

The song that inspired it.
Former Waterboys guitarist/singer Karl Wallinger.
My influence on him paid off. 👍😁


February 1, 2021 4:39 am

Good night God bless.
World Party


February 1, 2021 6:25 am

The podcast was well worth a listen. Four grounded, eloquent and knowledgable Celtic fans speaking sense.
The top KPI for all directors and managers at the club should be, progress in Europe. A victory in a two leg tie after Christmas. Big bonuses all round if that is ever achieved.

February 1, 2021 6:28 am

Listened to the entire podcast. Thanks very much to Pat, David, Bobby and our host Mahe.
I enjoyed listening to the meeting of minds. Very much enjoyed it.

Rather than try to address all the various points discussed in one fell swoop, I’ll give my views over several posts throughout the day, as time allows me.

VISION was one of the key talking points.
I worked my way into management positions over a number of years, within primarily three companies. The first of those was a Japanese company. My initial ‘training’ was in Japan, and later in Malaysia and the USA, but regardless of which country I was in, it was the Japanese who were in practically all of the most senior positions.
It was there I first heard the concept of QCDMS. Basically the Japanese told me that if you are in control of all 5 of these , you’d be successful. Lose control of any one of the 5, and you were heading for failure.
Looking at the 5 in isolation, they are:


If I can leave the safety aspect to one side for the purpose of the point I want to deliver, ( not that it’s any less important but as I say, irrelevant to this conversation) and touch on the other 4.


Well it should be fairly obvious to everyone as to just how much we lost in respect of quality.
Quality of the management team. Quality of the playing staff. Quality of communication.

We have wasted a fortune. Players not good enough. Managers not good enough. The quality failure has an effect on the costs. That’s undeniable.

Encompasses a whole host of deliverable items. From the perspective of some shareholders it will be the share price, for others , including non shareholders and fans, it’ll be match day experience, results , trophies.

Morale. All of the successes or failures of the above influence morale. Pretty obvious statement of course, just see the blog at 4-45pm on Saturday for a snapshot of how morale is right now!

Now I could elaborate on all of the above points and stretch it to 10 pages in each, but I would hope I’ve covered enough just to explain the concept.

The entire paragraphs above can be summarised by considering any season where Celtic delivered to your expectation v this current season.

Morale high, delivering to your expectations, costs being managed through CL income, (v) morale through the floor, failing to deliver the 10 etc .

The main reason I raise this matter though isn’t just to outline the concept, but to drill a little deeper into what is required to make it successful. What needs done to bring it all together.

The principle is no different within a footballing club than it is within a company producing plastic bottles or cars.

It start at the very top of the tree. Corporate objectives need to be clearly defined and communicated to the next level down. In Celtic’s case, that means DD sitting down with his Chief Executive and communicating those objectives. Not simply the objectives for the coming season, but short medium and long term objectives.
Does anyone think that is actually happening? Based on the evidence in front of us. I’d suggest it has not happened. Given DD’s comments this week, that he “tried everything in his power to persuade PL to remain in situ” , then I’d hazard a guess that the major objective for DD has been the balance sheet.

The domestic success that you may wish to cite in the defence of DD? 7 years of it gained in a one horse race. Certainly European progression isn’t a part of it, and although we were picking up trophy after trophy domestically, the European decline was evidence that our standards were falling rapidly. I’m in no way dismissing the run of cup wins. I think you would accept though that the last of those, where we fell over the line, was testament that the end of the run was approaching.

In any forward thinking organisation, the CE would be handed those objectives , and would analyse them and determine how to achieve each and every one of them.

If one of the objectives was to ensure one player, or two players from the youth academy is promoted to the first team squad year on year, that ain’t just gonna happen. It needs a plan. If you fail in the objective, you need to find out why and do something to ensure you don’t fail next year.

There needs to be Key Performance Indicators which are reviewed regularly to assess progress or otherwise.

PL then needs to look at those objectives and structure the level below him. He needs to breakdown each and every objective. Get the best manager he possibly can. Give him his objectives. Win the title. Qualify in CL.

In turn the manager needs to appoint his assistant manager, his defensive coach etc, and communicate the objectives to them.
All the way down so that every person in the chain knows their objectives.

When / IF you fail – it’s more basic management theory.

Why – Why – Why

Why are we losing matches?
We are conceding too many goals

Why are we conceding too many goals?
We cannot defend set pieces

Why can’t we defend set pieces? Etc etc etc

Ultimately you need to get to the root cause. Which may be anything from the ability of the coaches to the ability of the players, to the lack of training ground practice, whatever, but someone needs to be analysing the problem.

All Neil’s recent interviews have been amateurish to say the least. It’s the players. Griff is unfit. Some don’t want to be here. We are not doing basic defensive work well.

So the question is Neil – Why? Why? Why?

All fairly basic stuff but does anyone think those basics are happening? The evidence suggests not.

(Unless of course the corporate objective was the balance sheet, and only the balance sheet. If that were so, then congratulations to PL . He’s done a magnificent job. If it included giving our only rivals a leg up the ladder, then he’s in line for a knighthood.)

I suspect it is not, but simply a lack of all of the above basics.

The goalposts have shifted due to the Covid situation. However, the board are in for a rude awakening if they think it is the main reason the take up on season tickets will come under serious threat this summer. The main issue they have is the decline in standards has reached such a low level, in fact as low as I can recall, and THAT will be the main factor on people deciding to stay away or not.
You’ll get the first evidence of that when the season books across the city are flying off the shelves in record time. Covid will play little to no part. Their fans are happy with the quality , the delivery of the title, and Morale is through the roof.

Our season has been so appalling, that the only way to redress the balance will be to deliver a class manager. Not a Jack Ross, nor a John Kennedy, but a proven manager.
It needs to happen now. Not at the end of the season. The CL qualifiers will be upon us and a proven manager needs time to settle in.
By all means get a caretaker in now, but it does not need to be until the end of the season. Get a permanent appointment made ASAP.
We need decisive action. Another Martin O’Neill type restructure. Quality manager with the funds to back him up.

To summarise:

Put a professional management structure in place and put objectives, measurable targets that align to supporters wishes, and review progress regularly.

Plenty for now but only a snippet of what the guys discussed on the podcast.

Trust. That’s something I’d like a say on later today.

Thanks again for the podcast.

February 1, 2021 6:43 am


Quality of sound was pretty good for the greater part of the podcast. Only got a little bit of interference on a couple of occasions.

big packy
February 1, 2021 8:27 am

MORNING ALL and JIM, great podcast ghuys im only halfway through, but what ive heard so far is brilliant, 4 ghuys talking passionately about celtic and talking sense,.more power to your elbows.H.H.

Cosy Corner Bhoy
February 1, 2021 8:41 am

Not yet done podcast! Monday is hectic golf day😁.
However, had to take time to mention Neil’s tirade I read on Mail-on-line (English edition) where absolutely everyone is slated…..except him and the board. Disgraceful conduct from any manager.
It wisnae me,honest! Get him out right away or we won’t finish second. I wouldn’t try a leg if I played for him.

Bada Bing
February 1, 2021 10:50 am

Trying to get Japhet Tanganga on loan from Spurs….me neither

Bada Bing
February 1, 2021 10:58 am

What’s the point of bringing more loan players in? Another waste of money, give our own youngsters a run until the end of the season.

February 1, 2021 11:58 am

Morning bhoys/ghirls..

Another disappointing performance to add to this season from hell..

League update 1/2/21

McCaff.. 2pts..91
Atob..no entry..89
Cce..0 pts.. 77
Jobo.. 4pts..9

Well done jobo top score with 4…


Midweek fixtures..


St Mirren18:00Hibernian



Hamilton18:00Ross County

Motherwell18:00Dundee Utd


Please note early kick off times on both evenings..
Good luck all..

Thoroughly enjoyed the podcast..

February 1, 2021 12:09 pm

Well done on the podcast, thoroughly enjoyed listening to the 4 of you putting together an interesting and enjoyable show.
Also twistys post at 6.28 is a great read 👍.
Off our for a walk.

February 1, 2021 12:12 pm

No info supplied to the stock exchange or whatever yet?

February 1, 2021 12:24 pm

Bobby, the LSE have noted the change of Directorships.

Share price is very slightly up.

February 1, 2021 12:38 pm

Christoph Daum (who he?) doesn’t believe Jeremie Frimpong is ready for the Bundesliga. Daum who won the Bundesliga as Stuttgart manager in 1992 (did he?🤔), doesn’t think Frimpong’s ready to star with Bayer just yet.
Daum said the following: “It will be a great place for him to learn because Leverkusen are excellent for young players with potential. With Peter Bosz, he will have an excellent coach who will educate him and be by his side.
“I spoke to Leverkusen’s scouting department and they told me Frimpong is a player with high potential. But he is not ready for the Bundesliga yet, so it’s a future investment. You see this a lot now — betting on the future. If this player really develops then, suddenly, they will ask for four or five times the fee.
“From what I’ve seen of Frimpong, he wants to sort everything just with his speed of movement. There are still a lot of things to learn about positioning and how he scans his surroundings.”

Errrm, 🤔11.5 mill euros for a project but Bayer can obviously afford it.

February 1, 2021 12:46 pm


As I’ve said before I could see no evidence of any of that kind of thinking in the days I was talking to Celtic about a Membership scheme.

I tried to set up a demonstration of the Logframe process used by international development agency to the SLO but a bereavement prevented it and it was never followed up.

I doubt it would have been adopted as it required a discipline that requires hard work.

Easier to buy players or managers to keep moral up.

A HUGE culture change inside CP required.

Bada Bing
February 1, 2021 1:01 pm

Meanwhile in the real world, football teams buy and sell players, this club is absolutely paralysed from top to bottom, Desmond, Lawwell, Lennon, hang your heads in shame,who would actually want to come to Celtic right now?

February 1, 2021 1:05 pm

Good Afternoon all.
Enjoyed the podcast, well done all 👏👏

Excellent follow up from Twisty also 👌👌

February 1, 2021 1:19 pm


Terrific post. From it,I would say that from a footballing point of view,morale may well be the biggest problem-though as you point out,they are all inter-related.

Our team at the moment are definitely low on morale. I suspect that some of that may arise from not knowing which of your fellow professionals in your team are gonna be in a CGAF mode all day,so there is a hesitancy in the play as a result. Some might be from the lack of coaching and preparation-witness Turnbull and Griffiths arguing over who would take our corners. More than anything,it will be down to simply playing in an underperforming side.

Low morale will definitely lead to poor quality-and vice versa. Poor quality leads to a reduction in value/increase in costs of recovery. And definitely to the efficacy of delivery of targets.

So IMO,our biggest problem is low morale. That may have arisen from certain players feeling that they were denied a move in the summer,or from dissatisfaction with our management and coaching,or any number of different reasons applicable only to each individual or as a group. But it is a very dangerous sentiment to have in a workplace,and especially in a sports team.

Worst of all though? It is highly contagious!!!

February 1, 2021 1:21 pm

It’s incredible. I can’t re all f it was yourself or 1M1V who said that there appear to be no follow up to action points . Basics. Meeting minutes. Action points. Responsible person for the action. Timeframe. Incredible.

PL’s strength may well be in corporate marketing , attracting sponsorship etc, but I’m not certain that’s a definite either.

The fans may be the main attraction in a lot of cases. A ground bursting at the seams on CL nights. If you’re as lax on so many of the areas I addressed earlier, I do wonder if he’s as adept in other areas as some would have us believe?

DRM, Friedsorfer ty.

February 1, 2021 1:22 pm


But aren’t we focused on coming out of every transfer window stronger than we went in?

February 1, 2021 1:23 pm

Can’t disagree with any of that.

Thanks again for the podcast. ( plus the other 3 bhoys)

Was like sitting in the pub with a few pals chatting about the hoops.

February 1, 2021 1:26 pm
February 1, 2021 1:27 pm


That was what I thought too,a couple of mates down the pub. Lordy,I miss those days…

Bada Bing
February 1, 2021 1:37 pm


Sincere apologies for the Sunday Pest link,but what this guy went through is horrendous, he could blow the whole kabal wide open

Angel Gabriel
February 1, 2021 1:37 pm

Congrats on the podcast Bhoys.
I listen to some other Celtic podcasts, and this is up there . It maybe helps having had the pleasure of spending time with a couple of the contributors but the content was very good.

As for the St Mirren game and the continued resistance to change, I find it incredible.
Jim Goodwin is doing a fine job . They deserved the win

The Exiled Tim
February 1, 2021 1:50 pm

Fair enjoyed the podcast.
The question posed by Mahe about the amount of season books that will be sold, if Lenny is still there and by the looks of it at the mo he will be, 25K is kinda ambitious IMO.
Great read Twisty, they should have employed you instead of that Dominic fella

February 1, 2021 1:53 pm

Just listened to the podcast.
First one I’ve ever listened to.
Don’t think podcasts are my thing, but good luck with it going forward bhoys.

February 1, 2021 2:00 pm

That was an excellent read in your 6.28 post.
Looks like you had a few strong coffees early this morning. Cracking read 👍

Bada Bing
February 1, 2021 3:00 pm

When Lennon says he doesn’t understand why his job is being questioned, I can see Blackadder with pencils and a handkerchief……he’s getting more embarrassing by the day.

February 1, 2021 3:04 pm



February 1, 2021 3:08 pm

Morning troops.
Thanks the compliments and or feedback. I’m happy with that for a debut.
Twists, like others I would easily stick you in charge. Great bit of writing pal.

Lenny’s comment today again hint at disdain. He needs taken out of the firing line.
Ncham off for 5 million looks like. Never really settled. Bit part. Stroppy. Best gone.

Hail Hail

big packy
February 1, 2021 3:09 pm

so we missed out on ben davies, never heard of him, just told the missus big liverpool fan, sorry small liverpool fan😎 never heard of him she says,,another true story.H.H.

February 1, 2021 3:09 pm

Neil is really convinced that he can turn this slump around.
There are a few words for that kind of mindset.