Nightmare on Kerrydale Street

Morning,all.

 

The nightmare endures for the Celtic support,with the unlikely sight of St Mirren taking all three points at the weekend. I say unlikely,but how true is that? Their first victory at our ground since 1990,yes,but it means we have now dropped 23 points from 24 games this season,and are the same number of points behind the league leaders,albeit with two games in hand.

 

Our form for the last four months in particular and for the season in general suggests that we are lucky that opponents started the season by awarding us a degree of respect which we had earned previously but didn’t currently deserve. We had 25/27 points from our first nine matches and since then our fifteen games have yielded 24/45. Add in our European humiliations plus the Ross County defeat in the League Cup and I’d say that it is fair comment that we are not experiencing a blip in form. We have regressed to the level of a mid-table side,and one which no longer holds the fear factor over opponents.

 

While it is now clear that we might as well write the season off,the starting again part which usually follows might not be so easy. I can’t remember ever having so many players wanting to leave the club at the same time,and our new CEO has a job on his hands to boost morale amongst the players and to replace those that can’t be persuaded to sign a new contract.

 

And based on recent performances,how many would we consider worthy of a new contract anyway? From that arises a bigger problem-the performances of our players this season has driven their transfer value through the floor,so there will be even less money available for the required rebuild. And that’s before we take into account the effect of the pandemic on our finances-though curiously,Celtic probably won’t suffer as much as teams from elsewhere as our business model relies heavily on fan-derived income,and those fans sold out the stadium this season.

 

Hoping for more of the same next season is pie in the sky-unless we have something to latch on to. Give the Celtic fans hope and belief and we will turn up. We did it when Fergus gave us a stadium that everyone said we could never fill,we did it when Martin O’Neill arrived on the back of the Barnes/Dalglish shitshow,and we did it again for Brendan Rodgers who filled the stadium again after the disappointment of the Ronny Deila days.

 

The fans haven’t openly embraced boycotting the club since the days of the old board but talk of one for next season has been gathering pace for some time now.And the new interest being shown by and for The Celtic Supporters Trust has given the fans a place where we can be united and present a cogent argument to the club,one which argues for change. I’m reluctantly in favour of a boycott at the moment but the Trust disagrees-and this may be for legal reasons,as they are currently trying to encourage fans to buy shares,and also trying manfully to get the club to track down existing shareholders-a legal requirement,I may add,for every company.

 

The only card we have left to play is the financial one. The club need to know that we will not hesitate to withdraw that fan-derived income,or it will be back of the bus for us for a long time to come.

 

Above article by BMCUWP

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BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

GARRY.TWISTY

I said two years ago that AVB was available,and he was who we should be going for.

Twisty

Garry

Hadn’t realised that. Only skimmed the article.

Bobby
That would’ve required ambition, foresight.

Down with that kinda thing.

óglach

Garry

Not a chance. If he’s pissed off Ollie was signed when he didn’t want him why would he go to a club where the entire modus operandi is for the football manager to have little or no input into signing players. I am of course assuming that there will be no seismic change in our football op’s for the foreseeable future irrespective of a new CEO joining. As it stands there is nothing to indicate that the PLC, or more crucially DD, are inclined or even willing to change.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

OGLACH

That business model is dead,and it has been for years-if it ever even had a life to begin with. Time will tell of course,but if we carry on the same way we really are screwed. And the board must know that.

Garry

BMCUW
I remember it well.
I was more for Marcelo Bielsa, but agreed with you that either would be my choice.
Pedro went for Neil Lennon. 😔

Garry

Oglach
The king is dead. Lawwell.
Long live the king. McKay.
Hopefully total regime change in our club.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

GARRY

Aye,canny be doing with one of these hot-headed Latin types who actually want to manage,eh? I’d have taken Bielsa instead,except he was already at Leeds. AVB had just left his job in China. I reckon PL still has his CV in a drawer somewhere.

bada bing1

Leaked team for tonight

Bain

Kenny
Ajer
Welsh
Taylor

Brown
McGregor
Christie
Turnbull

Eddy
Ajeti

fan-a-tic

Tonight should see two teams without a coach in a face off!
On a carpet found in an old tenement it could be a veritable classic.
Two rudderless teams without a clue running around on a slippy surface.
Will it resemble the old fairground dodgems or with our players preference to impersonate statues make it more like the game of skittles.
Both sets of coaches(using creative license with that description) could stand on sidelines facing stand nodding with mouths upon while one fan from each team who won a prize to attend a live game could throw unused football boots into them and if successful win a 3rd choice top from 4 years ago.
There’s potential for a completely new sport here.

óglach

Bobby

I would like to think that is the case however recent events have indicated that perhaps DD isn’t for changing. 2nd place isn’t guaranteed, and with it a chance of proper money from the CL and money to re build the squad with quality players. Yet Lennon and Co are still in situ and going by recent comments seems to think his job is secure.
Imho, we are screwed, well at least for the foreseeable future unless there is a coordinated campaign to force DD / PLC to ‘change tack’ by depriving them of the only thing they want from the support – your cash.

Why do people believe that because a new CEO will be taking office things will change? Nothing will change until such time DD says it will. Give him and the PLC your money in sufficient quantities and watch what happens – absolutely heehaw.

Hopefully i will be eating lashings of humble pie and wearing sackcloth come the end of next season as DD has proven me wrong and we are being run as a proper football club supported by a business but forgive me for remaining sceptical.

óglach

Garry
Oglach
The king is dead. Lawwell.
Long live the king. McKay.
Hopefully total regime change in our club.
===
Lawwell is going nowhere, he will be behind the curtains whispering in the CEO’s ears, he will be DD’s very own Gríma Wormtongue.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

OGLACH

“Why do people believe that because a new CEO will be taking office things will change?”

We don’t. Only the further appointments which are required will show us if there is indeed a change of direction. But at least this is a sound first step.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

FAN-A-TIC

Too near the truth to be funny,unfortunately.

Garry

Oglach
Hahaha.
Tolkien couldnae have written the script at Celtic Park this season.

bada bing1

Lockdown in Scotland extended till end of February, P1-P3 back from 22nd February

Garry

Bada
Whit feckin year? 😩

Garry

Less than 5 hours till kick off in Ayrshire.
Anyone got pre match excitement?

Cheers Garry

don’t think we’ll ever know for sure i.e. “proven ” re ” in house sabotage ” ;

thing is it’s a ” possible ” in , I think , a growing number of peoples eyes ; yet try imagining Ibrox “nobbling ” their own to aid us ? You can’t can you ?

Yet it’s the same with their ex players v our ex players in the media .
Theirs just seem more errrrm – loyal – ( i know , i know 🙂 )

Seriously though , even their cheating was to get/keep well ahead of us ; when did they “put the brakes on ” to let us catch up as we did in Deila years plus ” the shower scene ” ?

Would they have been so “accommodating ” re 2011 licence , 5wa , LNS etc etc ?

Some of our “people ” just seem more willing to betray us than theirs do , and that just about puts this season in a nutshell for me ,

THE SEASON OF BETRAYAL

Mahe

Morning troops,
Well said Bobby, starve them out, it’s all we can do.

That rumour about won’t be fired until mathematically impossible,,
I find this very disturbing and I sincerely hope it’s false. We will all know the day can no longer win the league, it will be heralded everywhere.
If Lenny gets fired only then this tells us two things,,
Neil wanted a bigger slice of the pie despite his salary and team performances.
Our PLC decided that avoiding the embarrassment of the last few months wasn’t worth 1.6 million.
In no way shape or form have our results been up to the standard of Glasgow Celtic and as a result Neil should have either walked or been consented.
If this standoff revolves around money, and that emerges, the support will be done with Lenny.
I pray this is incorrect. It would be a travesty. Soon find out I guess.

Hail Hail

fan-a-tic

The Old Firm partnership with sevco is naive by our well run club.
Having a partner who has reneged on every deal they ever signed is plain stupid.
If sevco gain ascendancy they will have np problem following the Ray Kroc philosophy of putting a hose down a drowning rivals throat.

Cosy Corner Bhoy

Garry: Anybody got pre-match excitement?
Well, some Latin springs to mind!
1 Nil Desperandum
2 Nil Desperadum Carborundum Illegitami
3 Aeterna Non Conduca
4 Malus Consilium Quod Mutari Non Potest
Which are roughly,
1 Don’t Despair
2 Don’t let the basterts grind you down
3 Eternal things not Passing things
4 Bad is the Plan that Cannot Change.
4 is sometimes translated as ‘FFS, has he no’ got a PlanB!,
Pre-match excitement? Naw, I don’t think so.

bada bing1
Mahe

Twists,
McGuigan is no angel smelling of roses. His old manager didn’t always play above board. He himself sold out for the money. I can hardly step outside the hotel in Las Vegas in July never mind fight for a world title outside. He treated Frampton like crap, was caught fiddling.

Jim, on brown envelopes after NI games Billy Bingham passed a hat around to get stuffed with cash. Reasoning was his caps earned you pay rises at your club plus given his alleged stature in the game he could make you or break you, so cough up and keep the gravy train rolling.
Hence his nickname Billy Bung-ham.

Hail Hail

Mahe

Garry,
I’ve stopped watching the team tbh. So no, zero excitement here I must admit. Actually I’m going to the supermarket that sells pickled onions today and will grab some, a wee treat and nice find so more excited for a trip to the store honestly.
Hail Hail

Garry

Thinks it’s hun pish Mahe.
Saw the tweet concerned.
Started off “Ma mate a Sellick fan said.”
Lifted from Follow Follow, I think.

Rebus67

Jpm88,

Like you I could see disaster round the corner when NL was appointed. I also will not give the club a penny or cent of my money while NL and PL are in situ.

However, I cannot buy the conspiracy theory of deliberate regression on the part of the CEO and the Board. Where is the evidence? Appointing NL? Well, that can be explained by incompetence. Is the evidence to be found in poor signings and loan signings? Again, that can be explained by incompetence. Incompetence is the common thread as evidenced by the Dubai trip in the current climate.

Why would the club gamble with the loyalty of the fans in this particular season when it was to be an historical one? Why not deliberately regress last season and avoid the magnitude of failure being greater at this last hurdle? Perhaps, the club is deliberately helping a financially troubled Sevco by yielding access to CL money? Is that the rationale? But wait, Scotland has two places in the CL next season, so Sevco would be in anyway, as long as they finish second. It cannot be that then. Ok, perhaps the gap between us and them was too large? Hold on, did they not beat us a couple of times last season and emerge the better team in the LC final? Can’t be that either, can it? So what possible reason can there be for the club to deliberately sabotage itself so that it cannot triumph over RC, Livingston, Kilmarnock, Aberdeen , Hibs and Sevco?
There is no conspiracy, but there is incompetence. Incompetence throughout a club that formed a monopoly within the Scottish game. Incompetence brought about by complacency……something that happens in monopolies prior to their demise.

Rebus

Garry

CCB
Hopefully post match it is,
Veni Vidi Vici. 🍀💚

big packy

well my team for tonight is : Beattie, Donnelly, Fallon, Fernie, Evans, Peacock, Tully, Collins, McPhail, Wilson, Mochan. this team will bury the killie huns 10-0 ,another true story.

Garry

BP
I would go;
Hazard
Kenny Ajer Welsh Laxalt
Soro
Turnbull McGregor
Edouard
Griffiths Klimala

Rebus67

I see some are concerned about NL’s health and that the club has a duty of care to him and all employees. I have no idea if this is an issue or not but there is recent history on how the club treats employees with a chronic health issue. The Griff was put on leave to deal with his issues. If this is a problem for NL then why has he not been treated in a similar manner? Has he refused to be moved on to gardening leave? If so, surely there is a mechanism that can be utilised in the best interests of the employee?

I am no HR expert but what are an employer’s rights if a key employee, who is believed to be unwell, refuses to stand down? Is the employer powerless? Perhaps the reasons for NL still being in place can be found in this area of HR policy?

Who knows? I certainly do not but it does defy reason.

Rebus

Mahe

My estimation for AVB goes up. Doesn’t want money and wouldn’t touch Ncham with a barge pole,,we aren’t that different Dre. Txt me later.

Garry

JPM88
Since your post this morning, canny get this tune oot ma heid. Thankfully it is a good yin.

https://g.co/kgs/2Vd2Un

fan-a-tic

Mahe
Don’t think AVB has any knowledge or opinion on Ntcham’s ability.
He like any decent coach wants to pick his own players.
When the football department ha disconnect nothing good is produced.
If AVB thinks thats bad how would he deal with a poor midfielder as a centre half or two captains that run around a lot yet contribute very little.
Or a makeshift defense who can’t tackle and a terrified goalie..

bada bing1

Doubt you’ll see Griffiths any time soon….

Garry

Bada
Why???

bada bing1

Captain Tom RIP

bada bing1

Garry- he was the escapegoat on Saturday

Mahe

Rebus,
What reason the deliberate regression or managed decline?
Why, the Old Firm of course, specifically it’s continuation.
The bears actually will walk away rather than be an eternal punching bag having a superiority complex instead of a subservient attitude.
This is why a GOD couldnt happen with us at the top, but looks set to with them on top.
The PLC are half of the OF, and wish it to continue, bringing easy gravy and all.
The price of that continuation was gifting them titles, by managed decline, for example badgering top managers out the door and or not following up being cheated by them and their chief enablers.

Hail Hail

Garry

Bada
Aye he was.
You could be right.

Mahe

Gambling with fans loyalty is certainly one way to put it but when one considers theres a huge waft of fans just want to play and beat them despite their cheating (evidenced by 49 quid sell out soul cup game) then the PLC may be forgiven in thinking let’s give them what they want.
If the support really want to say something and make a stand, dont attend a derby game just once alongside much reduced VST takeup.
That’s what would shake the establishment.
If we dont buy season tickets but pack that particular game, we will be seen as sheep and nothing will change.

Hail Hail

Twisty

Mahe
He’s definitely no angel, but then again, he’s no murderer.

big packy

a few choons from my era, weve got jimmy jimmy johnstone on the wing on the wing ,harry harry harry harry harry hood.,oh skip to ma lou skip to ma lou macari, if you hate the glasgow rangers clap your hands,.im still clapping after 50 years,another true story,hail hail the celts are here what the hell do we care now come on everyone sing along for its a grand old team to play for its a grand old to see if you know the history, well if that does not get you in the mood nothing will as is said on CQN lurkin huns get tae fuck. another true story.

Rebus ,

” why would the club gamble with the loyalty of the fans in this particular season ” isn’t that exactly what they have been doing all season ( this season WAS salvageable up until mid Dec had real intent been there ) and are continuing to do as we speak ?

” CL places but doesn’t only 1st place give ” champions route ” ( avoid big guns ) ?

Appointing NL as permanent replacement for calibre of BR – incompetence ? Is there anyone in the footballing world who would argue against that being a regressive move ? Incompetence ? As King Kenny once said ” mibbees aye , mibbees naw 😉

My belief is the ” gap too large ” was post second treble when 5 goal drubbings v sevco were the norm and BR wanted to put the foot down with Mc Ginn plus other major signings .

Once BR was “encouraged ” to move on – enter NL !

Last seasons close calls with sevco validating their choice of manager ( in a conspiracy theory ) .

Truth is we all have wide ranging theories as to what has/is going on such is the ” strangeness ” of this season , as most can’t quite comprehend what has/is being played out in front of us ; and that’s all they are – theories .
Yet the signs , as you touch on re- sevco games , were there last season .

Theory ? They knew NL would be malleable and would “drop the ball ” sooner or later , isn’t that his managerial M O ?

As to our “custodians ” , Incompetent billionaires ? Who knows , maybe . Totally Machiavellian ? Who knows , maybe Auldheid .

Anyways Rebus , all just voiced theories , truth is we’re all a little bamboozled ,dumbfounded and confounded by events and may never really know what is/was going on .

Noel Skytrot

Garry,
regarding excitement for tonight’s game. There’s nothing to be enthused about, a frontal lobotomy would be more appealing at this time. We’re still in the hunt for Europe but it feels like most of the games from now on in are dead rubbers.

bada bing1

Game on Sky Sports tonight, if anyone wants a ST sign in,contact BMCUW- and will get the details to you.

JimmynotPaul

Today’ s managerial market.
Not an awful lot happening. Stevie Clarke 12/1, Alex Neil a big drifter.
John Kennedy
2/1
Rafael Benitez
2/1
Eddie Howe
5/1
Frank Lampard
6/1
Steve Clarke
12/1
Alex Neil
14/1
Roy Keane
14/1
Damien Duff
16/1
Mark Hughes
16/1
Jack Ross
18/1
Andre Villas-Boas
20/1
Enzo Maresca
20/1
Andriy Shevchenko
22/1
Dan Petrescu
25/1
Gordon Strachan
25/1
Henrik Larsson
25/1
Martin O’Neill
25/1
Michael O’Neill
25/1
Paul Lambert
25/1
Pellegrino Matarazzo
25/1
Steven Reid
25/1
Arsene Wenger
33/1
Marcelo Gallardo
33/1
Marco Silva
33/1
Shaun Maloney
33/1
Veljko Paunovic
33/1
Jim Goodwin
40/1
Malky Mackay
40/1
Sean Dyche
40/1

big packy

JIM are you lurking SOL are you lurking, is my posts getting deleted, luv you both to bits, please sentinel celts talk to me i talk to you:😎😎

Twisty

Jimmy not Paul

Please tell me tomorrow that the favourite is now a non runner 😁

Twisty

Mahe
Rebus,
What reason the deliberate regression or managed decline?
Why, the Old Firm of course, specifically it’s continuation.
The bears actually will walk away rather than be an eternal punching bag having a superiority complex instead of a subservient attitude.
This is why a GOD couldnt happen with us at the top, but looks set to with them on top.
The PLC are half of the OF, and wish it to continue, bringing easy gravy and all.
The price of that continuation was gifting them titles, by managed decline, for example badgering top managers out the door and or not following up being cheated by them and their chief enablers.

Hail Hail
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👏 👏👏👏

Twisty

Bada
If you don’t need your log in, I can only assume,

You’re in the team?