The King is dead, long live the King !

He’s a lifelong fan of the club and always will be. After making the transition from stands to player he left it all on the field, a natural leader who never knew fear or if he did it never showed.
He gave the best years of his career to his beloved Glasgow Celtic, and once the boots were hung up like a true Tim he gravitated back to his one true love in a coaching capacity only to reach the very top position.
With that, his name joined a very small list of those true Tim’s who have done it all,, supporter, player, and manager.
Well done John Kennedy on getting what must be your dream job and best of luck Sir.
 
Spookily, the above also holds true for the man he will replace, who couldn’t turn down the job for obvious reasons but ended up overstaying his welcome. Part of me is glad the support didn’t play much involvement with this parting by way of huge protests. Yes there were two small gatherings, but apart from handbags at the barrier and a few hastily scrolled banners, the support have more or less been innocent bystanders in Neil’s implosion.
 
This makes me very happy. The claim of bloodlust just doesn’t stand up when he was clearly given much more time at the helm than others who hadnt delivered such a poor points return. It’s clear he had extra time in the dugout, I mean this is almost March, we haven’t best a top 6 team since late September and we find ourselves in a fight for third at current pace. The parting was well earned, and well overdue, and I posit if there’s any parties can walk away here with a modicum of respect it’s the support who didn’t rebel but watched the car crash wondering when, instead of giving into bloodlust, thank you.
 
Another (spooky) fact that ties the two Tim’s mentioned above is that they are both unfulfilled potential in my (maybe many) eyes. One on the pitch, the other off it. John had the potential to go all the way, and now has a fantastic stage to showcase his management abilities. Neil fulfilled his playing potential, but the man once dubbed ‘one of Britain’s brightest young managers’ never kicked on after looking to have managerial qualities.
 
In his very first stint in management he took the scalp of the mighty Barcelona delivering an iconic night for the club, but both the necessary mentality and structure was not in place for him to move up a level. Shunning cutting edge training and analytics in favour of a more old school approach should be no surprise given the names he played under, men whose style he prefers to imitate. He then placed the immediacy of victories over long term growth by ignoring youth almost altogether. He’s not the first to feel winning today is better than planning for tomorrow, only a confident long term visionary can embrace the best of both worlds.
After being badgered from above, a common occurrence on Kerrydale Street, he would have walked away fairly confident in his abilities to eek out a career given the success under his belt.
That confidence was misplaced, hindsight now tells us fielding a better quality of player than the opposition was his main ace in the hole. A perfect ace for the biggest team in a backwater though if they are talented, hungry, and responsive to your motivation.
 
The Lenny we got second time around was a very different man than we had seen during that first stint though.
I said it at the time, he was setup to fail, the perfect fall guy. And so it has proved.
 
The season from hell will be analyzed from here to kingdom come, with each drawing their own conclusions over the root causes.
My top three in no particular order,,
1,, He removed the goals from our side. Odsonne Edouard at this moment in time is not suited to lead the line. He comes too deep, isn’t mobile enough for that job though he might have the great touch thats needed. During the successful Dubai trip the coaching staff cottoned onto the sole fact he needs another striker to play ahead of him, ideally mobile to catch the through ball. It worked, he was paired with a leading the line Griff and we romped to the ninth title in a row.
Yes Griff has been a write-off bit to go back to just Eddy is criminal.
If none of Griff, young hungry Polish workhorse, or Marko Viduka Mk2 were up to the task of leading the line, then a strong manager would have demanded someone who was.
That should have been his line in the sand, even if we ended up with Nisbet or Longshanks.
 
2,,allowing himself to be isolated.
At his peak he had his trusted lieutenants, which if truth be told wasn’t diverse enough. They were very similar in age and playing experience, had peaked under a Martin in his peak, so were always bound to believe somewhat in his methods. They weren’t worldly enough, no one brought anything different to the table, and they themselves had habits the modern professional looks down upon.
But they had each other, the collective knowledge of what was required after walking out that tunnel, and they also had a free shot at the title for a while, any management teams dream.
 
Mk2 Lenny should never have accepted the conditions offered, no Ill will at all to John and Damian or Gavin.
Celtic wanted him at the time, we know this now from Dermots comments about having their eye on him as he ticked all the boxes. Neil failed to capitalize on the cards he held,,when offered the job in the showers he should have told the world he had his own conditions of acceptance and would enter into negotiations.
He took what he was offered full stop, maybe proving the old adage love is blind.
 
3,,,convincing players to stay.
This is public knowledge now, he personally convinced a few to stick around for this historic campaign.
Once again hindsight is a wonderful thing, for yes there have been players persuaded to stay who went on to win the Baloon D’or (Christiano Ronaldo at United) so I’m hesitant to use this as a stick to beat Lenny with,,BUT,,
Probably the biggest reason for any very foreigner to join and play was off the table, this surely should have made a dramatic difference to the footballing department s outlook on keeping players who had expressed a desire to leave.
Think about it for a second, right now someone like Odsonne is being asked to work, live and sleep in a complete bubble in a foreign land, you’re not allowed out of your region never mind into your home country, you’ve no family around and any that do get sick you cant up sticks and visit, you’re not learning under this manager, and the atmosphere that made you sign and fall in love in the first place is gone gone gone.
Yes the chap has a local lassie, but given the extremely hard circumstances we are asking foreigners to endure is it any surprise some just check out then bail out ala Ncham, El Hamed, Frimpong?
Hindsight now tells us we should have let them go home to deal with this pandemic and empty stadium phase were they are comfortable, and filled our ranks with the best of local talents in their stead.
Does anyone reading think we would have been worse off with Gallagher, Porteus, Gauld, and Nisbet in the squad instead of the wantaways?
As a club we should learn big lessons here on when to trade and when to keep.
 
With his departure Neil becomes the second high profile casualty of the disastrous 10 campaign,,and it would be a travesty if Bankiers head didn’t roll to make it three. There’s very few of us would say no when Glasgow Celtic come knocking, in that respect he earns my sympathy, his love of the club was clearly his weak spot to be exploited, and it so cruelly was.
No team can expect to introduce six new first team players at once while some of the others wished to leave, and not encounter big problems. Especially in an empty stadium.
A poor manager placed in an impossible situation, set up to fail.
Ten was never on our PLC’s agenda, the Lurgan lightening rod was deemed the perfect deflector shield. Wasn’t enough to fully deflect from the CEO though, he’s a success in that regard.
 
There’s very few of us will ever come close to going through half of what the man has went through , all whilst battling an unseen disease, but ultimately the club must come first and it must always be bigger than just one man, no matter who.
 
Good luck Neil, You’ll Never Walk Alone.

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Garry

Tried the Gillette razor on the heid precisely once. Not for me, unfortunately., unless I’m going for the ‘other Magua’ look…the psychotic guy oot of ‘Last of the Mohicans’. Left arm is pretty much fecked due to an accident years ago, so prefer the barbers. Luckily, my local barber is right next to a pub…so roll on end of lockdown….but that’s up to Wee Nic.

Hail Hail.

Garry

Magua
Don’t use my left hand at all.
Whole heid can be reached with my right hand.
Like the sound of your mohican look mind.
Maybe try it. πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘

Garry

Widnae advise it…I blend in well in the Ibrox area at the moment. Lot of undead and assorted zombies getting ready to party.

Hail Hail.

Mike in Toronto

I’m going in for my first haircut in six months this afternoon ….

I’m thinking of going for a Number 4 (Samuel L. Jackson from Pulp Fiction) or number 13 (Travis Bickle from Taxi Driver)

https://ew.com/gallery/cruelest-cuts-21-bad-movie-hairdos/?slide=325583#325583

Mahe

ASWGL,,
You about pal? Look at these techy issues?
Hail Hail

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

In case MAGUA attends the next hoot,this is what we can expect.
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JimmynotPaul

BMCUW.,5.03
πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

CaltonTongues

Evening All

HH

BMCUW @ 5.03

How dare you sir…Yer man has a far better dress sense than me.

It was either your good self or AOTB that pointed out that the Orange mob in Ayrshire have been unbearable as of late
Same up here… it’s like Kilwinning on steroids.

Local Huns have been pulling the old Long Kesh trick of brewing their own hootch, in anticipation of the mother of all parties. They call it the ‘Kyle Lafferty Special’. It’s a cheeky wee number, made up in equal parts of Windowlene, toilet duck and a dash of Tennents Super to enhance the flavour. Must give it a go sometime…though the experts do say that it destroys the brain-cells. So nae effect on yer average Hun then.

Speaking of Huns, have ye noticed that they have recently wanted to talk fitba again. Strange that. Though to shut the feckers up, I simply congratulate them on their upcoming first major title. They quickly leave me alone, muttering something about effin Fenian bastards. Honestly, some Peepul cannae take a joke.

Hail Hail

CaltonTongues

I see three of the Hun Covid Law Breaking Party Animals are on the bench tonight!
Really rippin it now and showing who rules 😑

Hh

Thetic

I couldn’t read any posts on here for over ten hours
I have a friend who is a supporter of THE Rangers he posted on a Hun Facebook page and I got an notification. They were really slagging Neil Lennon. And going on about being applauded on to Celtic Park II went on and posted my comment I thought I would be told to get to -ukc or more ,nobody replied

β€œHe was our Ally McCoist. And remember when The Rangers refused a Guard Of Honor before COVID when Celtic won the League
Celtic have Won something like 16 out of the last 20 Leagues and they are retooling
Celebrate wisely next year will be very different, I am not saying we will win the League but there will definitely be a lot better team and management group in place
Blast away at me ,I can take it,but I have a good memory

Garry

MIT
You would suit a Travis Bickle or Voguepunter.
I used to have similar style, but it was copied from Joe Strummer.

CaltonTongues

How bad are Antwerp?
Or, how spawny are the huns?

At least it helps the co-efficient 😑

HH

Mike in Toronto

DD

are you talking to me? are YOU talking to me?

great film

timhorton

MIT @4;10pm
You are correct how forgetful of me.πŸ‘

timhorton

MAGUA @4:29pm
And a Fish and Chippy also a Bookies.

Garry

MIT
Someday a rain will come, and wipe this scum off the streets.

Sol Kitts isnae upset

Big Packy
Told you already, I don’t get offended or upset by anything my friends say or do. 😎😎

So we are in the hunt again, or are we just playing the OF game ?
We should find out soon enough.
All the best Lenny, you did your best unfortunately it wasn’t good enough
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ATOB
Another win for Barnsley last night, I watched a fair bit of it and again they blew the oppo away, if only they had a decent striker they would be winning by much more, the footy they play is what I would love to see us play, a bit like Bielsa, but a class below right enough.
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CT
I noticed that about the hun bench, yet they think the sfa, the media and the government are against them, if only.

McCaff

Well f*** me sideways!!! Paterson has only gone and scored for the Huns 18 seconds into the second half!!!

A thing of beauty

McCaff,
Blame me. I turned it over just in time to see him score. Happens everytime I put them on the telly. Absolutely no idea what the point of covid sanctions when they don’t apply to everyone. We had players remaining in their bubble but having to isolate for two weeks. They have players at a party with who know who and it’s carry on regardless. Wtf 🀬
Magua,
You are on form today. Loved the mental imagery of you booting Peter Lawwell from parkhead to the salt market.
TET,
I noticed the Barnsley result. Not sure the guy has enough experience but the issue is if he gets more experience he’ll get better offers than us.

Well that’s the explanation out there now.
I was listening to Superscoreboard (I know, but I’m bored!) And a caller reckons that NFL resigned because he doesn’t want to shake SG’s hands in congratulations!
LOL πŸ™‚
One of the hosts pointed out it’s not allowed anyway with social distancing.

I feel enlightened. πŸ™‚

JimmynotPaul

ATOB.
The Rangers players, involved still may face sanctions.
The offence is not covered by fast track procedures, so it will be discussed at next meeting, whenever that is, I have no idea.
They have now isolated for 10 days, so are eligible to play, until next SFA/SPFL lodge meeting decides their punishment, if any.

A thing of beauty

Auldheid,
If Dermot Desmond has any interest in the bottom line he needs to appoint a top manager because the price for keeping PL in situ is going to cost him 25000 season books next season. If that happens we are in a downward spiral and it’ll go on for years.

CaltonTongues

I see the Louden trying to rip off the Huns with cheap tat. Someone not having it 😁

https://postimg.cc/5QpW29tv

HH

A thing of beauty

ATOB
The Rangers players, involved still may face sanctions.
The offence is not covered by fast track procedures, so it will be discussed at next meeting, whenever that is, I have no idea.
They have now isolated for 10 days, so are eligible to play, until next SFA/SPFL lodge meeting decides their punishment, if any.
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Thanks for the reply JNP. That clears it up. So goat bothering is a cure for corona virus. Why did we not work it out sooner? Explains perfectly why they’ve not been affected at all.

Garry

CT
They still selling the Β£3 school jumpers for Β£55?

ATOB
It depends on what we-or specifically DD is looking for, do we go for the tried and trusted, which may or may not work, or do we go for the up and coming, which also may or may not work, it’s a catch 22.
Or the great moustachioed one could decide on another BR type who IMO would guarantee success, it all depends on how much help the hun needs IMO, if they need more we won’t go for a BR type, we may well go for a cheap option, does he care about the SB sales, does he eff, not at this moment, he may a year or so down the line, the world has a fair bit to go before things settle down so I honestly can’t see him going for a BR type, I reckon to placate the support he will go for a tried and tested, which as I said may or may not work.
Interesting time ahead.

CaltonTongues

Garry,

No, League Champions flags. Not putting a photo up 😁

HH

Garry

CT
Good 😁

Auldheid

The Celts in the Stands folk have been very active in putting out surveys to ST or wannabee St holders and passing them to Celtic.

To be sent a survey you first have to join the growing group of ST Holders at

https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdWGJu1QEo1LhEtyD55dV1b35xYfnPptilIkV9D19yz0hQRcw/viewform

and that puts you on the survey list that you get by e mail, complete and submit.

In terms of Celtic improving communications with the support going forward the Celtic SLO is keen to use the fan survey avenue (ie fans form the questions for Celtic to answer as in the SLO sees the reports are very helpful and would like to keep them coming as they help provide Celtic a snapshot of fan opinion.”

“if you guys want to ask the Celtic Season Ticket Holders anything, I’m sure you have all their details πŸ˜€ but if you wanted to come through Celts In The Stands and let us handle it just ask away and I’ll put it to the members.”

To which he replied:

“Appreciate the offer to provide some survey info, again that could prove very useful to us so I’d been keen to take you up on that at some stage.

Really appreciate your efforts in trying to help build stronger engagement.”

So if you want to be heard sign up to Celts in the Stand.

If there are any issues you would like to see raised let me know and I’ll pass on.

Perhaps put ” Survey” at heading of any post to me so I can pick it out.

(Been here before on CQN)

Garry

TET
This is an almost identical scenario as when Tony Mowbray got bumped and Neil Lennon got interim manager job.
John Kennedy is this year’s Neil Lennon.
Maybe JK is the long term plan?

Pitymevin

4 penalties in one European tie, is that not a new record of some type

CaltonTongues

Garry,

Apparently they’ve raised Β£60k for the Red Arrows to do a fly by (feck knows when).
The Red Arrows have declined the invite 😁

HH

Garry

CT
Pity
Was looking out the SAM missiles in cold storage. πŸ˜œπŸ˜‚

Andy Pandy 2

Good news…Paul Lambert has ruled himself out of the running for the Celtic job…Pistol Pete will be disappointed, one cheap option bites the dust!

Γ³glach

timhorton
OGLACH
Could Toney have played in our system,that’s the question.
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Errr, Whit system?πŸ€” But seriously I do get your point. Regardless of how good a player is sometimes a team’s tactics and style don’t suit. My point was PL’s reticence in spending money to get the player and then opting for the cheaper inferior option which ultimately ends up losing the club more money than it would have to have signed the player in the 1st instance. Toney was match fit, I believe, and ready to sign on the dotted line. Ajeti was/is overweight and obviously not match fit. Will he come good – don’t know – would I have spent Β£5mill on a fat guy who couldn’t even get a game for a struggling Hammers – noπŸ™„

CaltonTongues

Garry,

πŸš€πŸš€πŸš€ 😁

voguepunter

Garry
CT
Pity
Was looking out the SAM missiles in cold storage. πŸ˜œπŸ˜‚
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You bring that back from Belfast ?
I got a bottle of Jamiesons :O)

Garry

VP
No comment.
Loose lips…. πŸ˜œπŸ˜‚πŸ€£

timhorton

OGLACH
I might be the only one but i’m not giving up on Ajeti orBarkas.
If and it’s a big if we get the defence sorted out Barkas will be fine,if not well the games a bogie as far as we are concerned.

Garry

TimHorton
Me neither. I think both Barkas and Ajeti given a prolonged run of games will come good for us.

Garry
It’s a difficult one in reality, we have not a scooby what the suits are thinking, so anything we say is only our opinion, informed opinion by reading between the lines that are non existent.
As for JK, again I no clue if he is or will be any good, I keep hearing and reading stuff that he is was our def coach, I did not hold that opinion for a single second, he is a coach, a coach who imo had no time for Lenny and his dinosaur ideas, I reckon he wanted to emulate BR’s ideas, I don’t think he is a stupid man, I think he may well surprise us, again we will find out very very soon.

Garry

TET
Bang on. The lack of communication by the board on their plan, if they have one, just leads to supporter speculation on sites like this.
I know that in football circles, John Kennedy is a highly thought of coach and man manager.
My concern is, why have we not seen any evidence of that, this season.

Saltires en Sevilla

Mahe

A very fair review today… good on ye!

BMCUW – thanks for correction… aye, I’m always looking in, but still can’t rid myself of an empty feeling in my gut.

Sadly, the club are still going nowhere fast.

Sorry for a bit of a rant…

Bewildered that many Celts were gorging on trebles and Chasing fekin 10…. when our European status was dwindling year after year, after year….what the hell happened to our ‘clued-up’ support?!

Astonished, so many genuinely good Celts are preparing to continue shoring up this utter sham of a Board.

It’s been said before, the only solution is to ‘starve’ these corrupt bassas, or nothing will ever change! How many lies can ye chow down on … how often will ye be spoken to like your just a wee bit of shite on their shoes… an inconvenience, to be seen and not heard…

I kinda understand the dilemmas …. the weekend habits … faithful traditions & soulsearching & inner conflicts…. kinda … well, not really…. but, definitely don’t want to fall out with good Celtic fans, and especially folk I count on as friends.

If it’s any consolation, the guys I chat to every day tell me to chill and accept it’s a game and always been this way … we are the underdogs, and that’s the way it will always be.

Aye, that’s ok and I totally get into the idea of sticking it to the established order. However, I remember when we could field a team on the park that would give the best teams in Europe a fright … make them realise they had been in a game, and never treat us with disdain or dare try to patronise us.

Those days are long gone … notable exceptions, simply stand as exceptions to the general rule. We are now a shite European team with a stadium/fans that sounds like the ‘real deal’. However, the players on the park can’t pass the ball to each other under pressure… it’s horrible to watch

Now our fans end up Resorting to compiling lists of wonderful players who are enchanted with the brilliant atmosphere …. aye …YouTube videos of other fans loving our Walk On, having just humped us out the CL or EL …. aye, but the tifo and that…

As a football team we stopped being the ‘real deal’ a long, long time ago.

Anyway, now you know why I don’t pop in much, I’m even bloody depressing myself.

Keep up the good work folks.

The quality of chat is always worth a pop in. The contributions really do hit the spot.

You all make this the Best Celtic blog… by a oul’ country mile.

Stay safe & well, and keep your loved ones close.

HH

Garry

SES
Very well said.
Totally from the heart.
I share many of your concerns.
If we made ourselves a strong European standard team, the SPFL would take care of itself.
Today we are neither a good European team nor a good SPFL team. Scunnered by it.

Γ³glach

It will be interesting to see if the ‘new manager’ syndrome has a positive effect on our performances. Personally, I don’t think that Kennedy should be anywhere near the 1st team coaching staff next season. It’s oft-rumored that he was PL’s go-to guy for info on the squad and manager. Irrespective of that being true or not the new manager should insist on his own coaching team and I can’t see where JK would fit into that. Now the 15k ST question is would the board consider handing the job to JK on a full-time basis primarily judged on the team’s performances in the small number of league games remaining. Assume we win them all – would they really consider him and risk the wrath of the support (again)?

Saltires en Sevilla

Cheers Garry – take care buddy

CaltonTongues

Garry,

Get the Sam’s ready.
Larkhall Huns planning flyby on Saturday with banner asking if we can see them now.

HH

Garry
Again it’s a difficult one, I rememer one game when he just shrugged his shoulders at Lenny, I have no idea what it indicated but it didn’t look like to me that they had much of a like for each other, the reason I have noi scooby, but it was what I got from it.
We are just gonna have to wait and see what transpires.
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SES
Good to see you posting again
I agree with you 100%