Whats the chances?

Morning,all.
 
Two weeks from now and we will be well into the best four days of the calendar year for those of us who love the jumps. Those who prefer life without its hurdles will,of course,look forward to Royal Ascot in June. Both have been ticked off my bucket list already,and I tend to at least try to have a few quid set aside for them as I attempt to take the bookies on.
 
God loves a trier,after all. Though He’s been making a good job of pretending recently that He isn’t actually that interested!
 
The bookies too,love a trier-especially one who actually isn’t that lucky. I flatter myself that I am,that I am way ahead of the ledger over the years. And even if I’m not,the big wins are important while the occasional ten or twenty on a Saturday isn’t missed-and that is something that only makes sense to regulars in a betting shop! So following on from MAHE’s excellent article yesterday about how football is eating itself,I thought I would share a wee titbit about the gambling-especially as it came hot on the heels of some serious Cheltenham news!
 
Monday night,the only game of any significance was Everton v Southampton. The latter have been in a dreadful run of form,but Everton aren’t much better at the moment. The prices weren’t that attractive,given that the bet was on two out of form teams,so I didn’t bother. BetVictor weren’t inclined to give up on me though,and offered me various options soon afterwards,my mail inbox being splattered with offers.
 
One which caught my eye was their BetBuilder. I actually mailed them about that around two years ago,pointing out that it was an illegal bet. Seems the laws have changed. The reason I know it is-or was-an illegal bet is because I put a bet builder on DECADES AGO!
 
1987 FA Cup Final,I was working in South Shields. Football on the telly,but Spurs v Coventry? Who CGAF about that-certainly not me! Except…
 
Clive Allen had scored about 40 goals that season,he was 6-1 for the first goal. Me being me,I figured out how to make a profit from that-and have an interest for the whole game! The bookie next door to the pub was an independent,so I offered him the following slip.
 
Allen first goal,6/1
Spurs/Draw,22/1
2-2,22/1
 
3x£1 singles,3x50p doubles and a 50p treble.
 
He told me to GTF,that’s an illegal bet-betting on the same event. I said it was the equivalent of an win,forecast and tricast. He told me to come back in an hour,he would see what he could do. And what he did was take the bet for a quid,not a fiver,and at 4/1,14/1 and 14/1-IIRC,not sure as it was a long time ago. I remember how much the payout was though.
 
Well,if Allen scored first I still got my money back-and that was the whole point of the bet! I’d found a way to beat the bookies!!!
 
(I hadn’t actually. I forgot about the tax)
 
So there I am in a pub in Geordieland cheering on the southerners-for all of two minutes until Allen scored! Think I got away with that one… Then cheering them on again after Coventry had equalised-and calling Cyrille Regis a big fouling bugger when he scored just before half time,fortunately it was ruled out. I damned near hit the roof shortly after when Gary Mabbutt put Spurs in front!!!
 
Not many Spurs fans around here,said the guy next to me at the bar at half time. Eh? I’m not a Spurs fan! Wheey,ya fooking sound like one!
 
I told him I might surprise him in the second half-and I did. Because I’d spent most of the first half cheering on Spurs-it was one each after ten minutes-but I now needed Coventry to score. So for twenty minutes or so,I’m cheering them on,with a pub full of Geordies wondering if my drink has been spiked! And once the equaliser goes in,I start demanding that defenders break bloody legs,don’t let anyone get a shot away!!!
 
You’ll gather I got my bet up,and I explained the situation to the lads around me. Then in comes the bookie-no night racing back then-and hands me £141.30. £157 less the tax. And I was actually apologetic about it! Sorry,illegal bet,thanks for taking it,feel guilty,etc.
 
Not at all,mate. I saw what you did and why-laid it off and put a ton on over the phones. It’s me that’s buying you a drink.
 
Now,what’s that got to do with anything? Well,remember all these mails on Monday night? I was betting on the important aspects of that match-the result. First goal,half time score were crucial too-but there was little that I or anyone else could do to influence any of it. Particularly not when the whole country was watching it live on TV. But there are nearly 200 bets now available on matches,and that includes all the ones that aren’t shown live. How many corners or free kicks,how many red or yellow cards. A specific player to be carded. All of these are highly manipulable,and will largely slip under the radar. Even a penalty is little surprise these days,depending on which team you put the money on.
 
And there’s the rub,the big question. Who have you put the money on? Who had a reason to release an old photo which shows Gordon Elliott in such a bad light-and why now? Has someone perhaps put a wedge on Willie Mullins-blameless himself,I hasten to add-and laid off large against Elliott on the exchanges? Taken the evens on Mullins and given threes on Elliott on say BetFair? Maybe doubled and trebled on Aintree and Punchestown?
 
I think Elliott has been stitched up-but that is not my point. My point is about the betting markets. How easily manipulable they are these days. There isn’t anything to stop a years old photo being leaked,and wrecking a sporting festival,destroy a whole year of the sport. There isn’t anything that stops someone giving a wee extra corner kick or yellow card either.
 
And in Scotland,there’s nothing that stops you from having a gambling problem and a season ticket for a certain club,then being awarded nearly a grandsworth of betting slips to referee your favourite club!
 
Football will eat itself? It’s serving itself up on a platter to the bookies.
 

Above article by BMCUWP

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Day 3 read by Criostoir McCann

Garry

BP
This is a true story. My physics teacher at Saint Thomas Aquinas was a Scouser and huge Everton supporter who went to Celtic games with other teachers after arriving in Glasgow fae Liverpool. He was a lovely guy and he came from Prescot in Liverpool.
His name was James Prescot from Prescot. 😊👍

Mahe

ASWGL,
Cheers.

I called both results right. Happy at that.
Is it possible Slippy isnt on bench at CP?

big packy

GARRY, brilliant story, yes prescot has got quite a few scousers living there, although the toffs say im from prescot in lancashire not prescot in merseyside,,another true story👍 they dont like being associated with working class scousers,

Garry

Mr Prescot was a proud Scouser and proud Toffeeman as he called himself. Was a Catholic who loved Celtic too.
We used to kid him on that the only reason he came to Glasgow was to support a good team in Celtic. He would laugh and agree. Lovely, friendly man. Shite teacher though. 😜😂

big packy

GARRY 😎😎

ASWGL

BP true story i smoked dope for a month one night

big packy

for garry and jimthetim53 get dancing//// https://youtu.be/TiAXuh8ONmI

Garry

BP
He made the fatal mistake of having an English accent. Didnae go down well wi 2000 West End Saint Tams for Bams pupils.
He was considered soft. No chance of survival in the Saint Tams jungle if you were soft. Belt or no belt. 😁

big packy

ASWGL YES 😎😎😎 no st augustines bhoys get banned on here👍

Garry

ASWGL
Must have been some weed?
A 30 day high achieved in a night? 😁Magic

ASWGL

BP ignore me i was just testing the blog, it has filters in place where certain words are banned (likely due to spammers) words such as V iagra (if typed properly)

Garry

BP
Except you. 😁😂🤣

Garry

BP
Sorry pal.
Thought that was shite, and I never even listened to it. 😁
Really cannae go Status Quo.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

ASWGL

We were getting heavily spammed for certain weed derivatives,so I put the terms into the banned list. Also other products,as you’ve noticed. At the moment,I reckon we get targeted over 100 times a day,it is not easy keeping track and occasionally an otherwise innocent comment will trigger that ban.

Hopefully it is better than the alternative though!

big packy

GARRY, how dare you sir😎😎

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

OGLACH 807

Bobby’s words are powerful,even now. I’ll echo the thanks of others on here.

ASWGL

bp true story power went out the other night. good thing my camera had a flash. i went to make a sandwich and took 90 pictures of my kitchen…. the neighbors called the police they thought it was lightening in my house.

big packy

ASWGL 👍😎

Garry

BP
Don’t tell me you are a Status Quo fan?
Thought better of a Led Zepp, Doors, Free fan. 😊

big packy

GARRY YES😎 but this is for both of us https://youtu.be/fIQMktyP90s

Garry

BP
This is for Lady Joan.
My favourite song to ever come out of Liverpool. Genius song.

https://g.co/kgs/i3BPpX

I went to see Status Quo twice in the Apollo. The build up song before they came on stage was Pictures of Matchstick Men. Which wasn’t really typical of all their 3 chord wonders which gave them so much chart success.

Garry

BP
I am off to watch that twice.
All four Led Zeppelin members are masters of their art.
James Patrick Page just went off the scale with that guitar riff.
Only God could have taught him how to play that? Wonderful BP 😍👍🍀💚

big packy

GARRY, love that song when you think of it the beatles were way ahead of their time, think JIM will agree using an orchestra in their songs, that was never heard of before in a pop group,

big packy

JIM how dare you sir, 3 chord wonders i happen to know they could hit a top C without the trumpet 😎😎

big packy

HEY whats going on here I thought this was a celtic blog not a music blog, come in mike in toronto all is forgiven😎😎 only joking mike👍

JimmynotPaul

From Douglas Fraser Business Editor of the BBC
Breaking: one of the best-known Scots in PR and corporate comms has had to quit the chair of the company he owns after a spectacular own goal. Gordon Beattie wrote on Linked-In that his company doesn’t recruit blacks, gays or Catholics, but only hired talented people…
He describes the language as “inappropriate”: truly sorry for the offence and embarrassment caused to staff and clients.
Beattie Communications ceo Laura Woods: he’s not prejudiced, but there are no excuses for the language used, the message was “reckless” and “out of touch”.
Too early to say what happens to ownership of the company, which has six UK offices, 4 in Canada, and employs around 100 people.

big packy

anyway im off before the nightshift comes on garry puffpuff aswgl nana etc they dont have a clue about music well that was what MAHE said, dont shoot the messenger, only kidding ghuys, GNAGB ALL, sorry and mcaff 😎

Garry

BP
One of the many things I thank my father for was introducing me to Celtic games, and Beatles and Bob Marley and the Wailers albums.
Revolver and The Beatles white my two favourites. Kaya and Exodus by The Wailers 😊👍💚🍀

Garry

BP
Goodnight pal.
Song from Liverpool for Lady Joan and you.

https://g.co/kgs/FqutDy

ASWGL

Goodnight packy, The nightshift play the best music – big packy Yes the nightshift play the best music

JediMomentCSC

JimmynotPaul

Classic comedy. HH https://t.co/ShNuw0r6ID

Garry

My first favourite ever song. I was 2 or 3 and used to sing this wi ma da. 😊

https://g.co/kgs/tY3RhW

Garry

Wisnae really into this band till I heard this track live in Spain at 3 in the morning Sunday. Amazing.

https://g.co/kgs/npZQv9

Garry. I can just imagine that ‘If I Fell’ would be a song that a 3 or 4 year old would love and enjoy with a parent.

The early Beatles music – at the time – was new, interesting, different but sing along to stuff. We loved it. It didn’t take them long to start experimenting and expanding. Every year they grew. Became more complex. Sgt. Pepper still a favourite of mine. There is still a debate about what some of the lyrics were about. But the music & arrangements were first class.

I was always a Beatles man rather than a Stones man! 🙂

The Stones had a much narrower range – good as they were.
With the Beatles their range of styles were limitless.

Garry

JTT53
I am a huge Beatles fan.
I really struggle to understand why you would not like The Beatles. Everyone I know loves them.

Garry

JTT53
Love this classic.
Bet you do too.

https://g.co/kgs/S7xijv

What band in the sixties other than the Beatles could have made a song like this?

Garry

JTT53
For the Benefit of Mr Kite.
The song that gave a great CQN poster his moniker.
Pablophanque 👍

Garry

JTT53
Enjoy this song by experimental 60s Jim.
Classic artist and song.

https://g.co/kgs/whM1td

Didn’t realise that Garry. makes sense! Cheers 🙂