Going For The One
Last week an issue was raised which could not be answered at the time, but after obtaining permission from Res12 shareholders, the issue of any official recognition of 55 titles on Rangers winning this year’s title which is contained in the following post has had a response.
The 55 Titles Nonsense,
The biggest threat to Celtic is its adherence to Old Firmism which is a business model that requires both the blue and green halves to be relatively equal so as to sustain the bigot pound at the expense of the club’s European ambitions. Even if the club does bring in a quality manager to replace Lennon, nothing much will change as long as it remains shackled to the new huns. When all the 55 titles nonsense kicks off, it gives the club an opportunity to break with Old Firmism by unequivocally challenging the Big Lie and putting the record straight that they are a new club and this is their first title. They could also inform all the news outlets that the Old Firm is dead and they should desist from including Celtic FC in that term. Furthermore, if they insist in doing that then the club will refuse to have any further dealings with them which includes denying them all access to players, management team and Celtic Park. It would also be a good time to re-visit Res11/12 and the sham Lord Nimmo Smith enquiry and the 8 or 9 titles the old huns won when they were using EBTs. If the board seriously wants to get its supporter base back onside, it really has to ditch the new huns and stand up for the club first and foremost. The alternative is to say nothing which would mean a return to the stands of shame, only this time, it will include all the more of the top tiers.
The Response.
No doubt Celtic will be asked for their view on the recognition of the total titles won by Rangers FC Ltd (Company Number 42519) in their short history from 2012 , or will it be Rangers International Football Club PLC’s titles (Company Number 437060 ) won in their short history or both?
Will Celtic and the football authorities recognise additions to any titles won from 2012 by Rangers FC Ltd or RIFC PLC by those won by Rangers FC PLC, a club incorporated as a limited company on 27 May 1899, becoming Rangers FC PLC, a public limited company in March 1982 until it ceased to be a SPL club in July 2012 (all the time from 1899 under company number 04276) when its membership of the SFA was given to Sevco Scotland subsequently quickly and spookily renamed The Rangers FC Ltd the same as it was incorporated in 1899.
The chances of getting a straight answer are unlikely but Celtic might pass the buck to the SPFL or The SFA.
In doing so Celtic might remind the SFA that they hold a copy of the same letter Celtic do from Andre Traverso Head of Club Licensing dated 8 June 2016 (which can be seen in full at
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B6uWzxhblAt9ckdxNTU4bFIyNFU/view?usp=sharing
) when, unprompted by the questions put to him by the law firm acting on Celtic’s behalf about UEFA Licencing in 2011, he responded in the penultimate para,
“ To sum up, as a consequence of decisions taken in 2012 as well as the administration and the events/measures that followed (including the new club/company being ineligible to apply for a licence to participate in UEFA competitions for three seasons) there is clearly no need for UEFA to investigate this matter any further since the club was not granted a licence to participate in the 2013/14 UEFA Club competitions, the new club/company entered* the fourth tier of Scottish football and it was not able to play in UEFA competitions for the next three years in any event.”
Celtic might want to use the Traverso letter to obtain clarity from the SFA on their stance and that of the SPFL vis a vis UEFA, whilst asking the SFA why they never corrected the version of the above para by Traverso published by STV at end June 2016 when the reference to the new club/company was removed. The SFA did have a copy of the same letter after all.
Having provided their approval shareholders who were responsible for the unexpected reply from UEFA in 2016 would have no objection to Celtic using the Traverso letter to obtain clarity from the SFA on their stance and that of the SPFL on the issue.
Readers are free to put their views to Celtic directly or via SLO as the underlying issue of the damage such official recognition will do short and long term to the integrity of Scottish football and so Celtic as a member club, makes it a matter that is in Celtic’s best interest to address.
Above article from Sentinel Celts
The continuation myth is firmly ensconced in too many peoples minds due to a complicit media pack who are an absolute disgrace and should be ashamed to call themselves sports journalists or reporters. For me, it runs far deeper than just the media, it’s also motivated by financial gain for the majority of those involved in the corrupt running of the game in Scotland, including the scabrous charlatans on our board. We’ve saw all the effort the Res12 people put in and it appears that their brilliant efforts have been undermined at every turn. I don’t think for one moment that the current ‘custodians’ will ever rock the boat regarding this as they’re up to their boardroom ties in the lie that underpins the whole ‘same club’ falsehood. The question is how do we change the narrative surrounding this? I wish I had an answer.
They know, we know, and deep down they know what we know is the truth.
MONDAY 9TH
I have left this rather late tonight and it is cold. The priest Fr Murphy was in. I had a discussion with him on the situation. He said he enjoyed our talk and was somewhat enlightened, when he was leaving.
On the subject of priests, I received a small note from a Fr S. C. from Tralee, Kerry, and some holy pictures of Our Lady. The thought touched me. If it is the same man, I recall him giving a lecture to us in Cage 11 some years ago on the right to lift arms in defence of the freedom of one’s occupied and oppressed nation. Preaching to the converted he was, but it all helps.
It is my birthday and the boys are having a sing-song for me, bless their hearts. I braved it to the door, at their request, to make a bit of a speech, for what it was worth. I wrote to several friends today including Bernie and my mother. I feel all right and my weight is 60 kgs.
I always keep thinking of James Connolly, and the great calm and dignity that he showed right to his very end, his courage and resolve. Perhaps I am biased, because there have been thousands like him but Connolly has always been the man that I looked up to.
I always have tremendous feeling for Liam Mellowes as well; and for the present leadership of the Republican Movement, and a confidence in them that they will always remain undaunted and unchanged. And again, dare I forget the Irish people of today, and the risen people of the past, they too hold a special place in my heart.
Well, I have gotten by twenty-seven years, so that is something. I may die, but the Republic of 1916 will never die. Onward to the Republic and liberation of our people.
Good morning, friends.
The sole reason for them regularly mentioning “55” is quite simple – to continue to push the continuity myth into everyone’s psyche. 55 has never been a significant number for anything else in the world. It’d be as random as Celtic now doing a full stadium banner or bringing out a range of merchandise saying we were “going for 41” (as in Scottish Cups). The club that died won 53½ league titles – that is a FACT as one of their earlier ones was shared with, I think, Dumbarton. The club that was born in 2012 have won 1.
Talking about the media.
Not that I want to get into the whole Megxit carry on but it would appear Prince Harry has got about as much admiration for the media as we have! Strange bedfellows we are! LOL 🙂
My retort to Huns is to ask them what is the entity currently called Rangers 1872 plc (IL)?
The liquidation is not yet complete. This is the entity which won all the honours, run up all the debt, and is responsible to account for historic child abuse.
So, there are 2 Rangers, Billy?
They can’t argue.
Back yonder on the other channel, it was predicted by several posters, that the continuity myth would only get closer scrutiny by a wider audience than the timosphere, when Celtic lost a league title, and their 55 chants sunk in. And of course, their creditors. This ain’t over yet, Bhoys and Ghirls.
Morning all…Ger57, like the ignorance that surrounds the issue with Celtic supporters so too are the Huns similarly afflicted. I took a bit of a doing in one of my suppliers yesterday. When I congratulated them on their first trophy they seemed genuinely ignorant of the history! Not in a patronising way, genuinely unaware of the implications of what Liquidation really means. ‘Check out the History’ was his parting shot to me! Feck me, mate, you check out the History!!
That’s exactly what we’re up against.
McCaff
The information is all out there. Anyone who wants to find out the facts, there were several contemporaneous blogs, giving details of the goings on. The MSM wouldn’t touch it , frightened of the hordes. A couple of journalists got severe abuse and a real bonkers Hun blogger got 6 months for hate crime. Too many of us know the truth. They died.
I’ve kept abreast of the story since 2012, and am completely amazed at how a blatant lie has been allowed to become an accepted truth. But then look at Brexit, Trump, Indyrev. The populace is easy to con. Wresting control of the media from the barons is no small task. Good on Australia in that regard. Baby steps and all that.
I’m optimistic that the issue will get settled when the liquidation is completed, and the issue of liability for something or other is disputed. Same club myth fucked.
GER57… I’d love to share your optimism. For now though I think too many opportunities have been lost. But I’ll tell you one thing that would seriously challenge the narrative would be Celtic acknowledging in two weeks time, and not before, the FIRST Championship Title for the Newco!! That would ruffle a few feathers but it would also take the story out of Scotland on what should be their day. Play the Huns and the feckers at their own game…control the media and you control the people!!
English MSM again claiming a number of EPL clubs, Arsenal, Aston Villa, & Leicester city, have made recent enquiries about Eddy with at least one bid being received. Irrespective of how much ‘fact’ there is in these claims the underlying trend is the low figures being quoted as transfer fees £15 – £20 mill.
OGLACH
If you let it be known that you were likely to sell your house,you would have a figure in mind for it.
If I offered you a tenner and my mate offered you a score,which would you accept?
Bobby
We both know that Eddy will decide where he goes and if it is to a club offering the equivalent of a tenner Celtic will have no alternative but to ‘suck it up’ or opt for nothing come December.
Morning all, yer man Enzo Maresca seemed to be getting a lot of attention last night re the manager/head coach job. Does anyone know anything about this guy beyond he’s the City U23 manager?
OGLACH
I take your point,and I agree with it. But mine still stands too. A bit of a Mexican stand-off,with the guns pointed being named
Wages. Medals. Opportunity. Fame. International caps.
Eddie and his agent are no more in control of the agenda than Celtic or Leicester. It’s down to what suits best at the time,and I’m sure that Celtic will accept best offer for them,while Eddie accepts best offer for him,from a club which has tendered best offer for themselves.
The Star Above The Crest
Enzo Maresca – kinda ‘journey man’ football career that took him from West Brom to Verona with numerous stops in between, the most notable clubs being Juve where he was loaned out for most of his contract albeit picking up a league medal and Sevilla where he won the UEFA cup twice.
Management wise – not too much to get excited about
2017 Ascoli (assistant)
2017–2018 Sevilla (assistant)
2018–2019 West Ham United (assistant)
2021– Manchester City F.C. EDS and Academy
One does wonder if PL junior is at work here?
Bobby,
I don’t see it as a Mexican standoff as that implies 2 sides having an equal influence on the situation. Defo, not the case here.
Meanwhile, Prince Charles has been fired out to a Covid centre you couldn’t get any more black folk in the picture……
Like a sketch from Drop the Dead Donkey….
The Star Above The Crest
Maresca is obviously managing some of the best young players in English football, but I really know nothing about him.
Hadn’t heard of him till about a month ago.
Bada
You think it is Charlie that made the racist comment about wee Archie?
12 of the finest (unintentional) double-entendres ever aired on British TV and radio
1. Ted Walsh – Horse Racing Commentator – ‘This is really a lovely horse. I once rode her mother.’
2. New Zealand Rugby Commentator – ‘Andrew Mehrtens loves it when Daryl Gibson comes inside of him.’
3. Pat Glenn, weightlifting commentator – ‘And this is Gregoriava from Bulgaria . I saw her snatch this morning and it was amazing!’
4. Harry Carpenter at the Oxford-Cambridge boat race 1977 – ‘Ah, isn’t that nice. The wife of the Cambridge President is kissing the Cox of the Oxford crew.’
5. US PGA Commentator – ‘One of the reasons Arnie (Arnold Palmer) is playing so well is that, before each tee shot, his wife takes out his balls and kisses them ….. Oh my god !! What have I just said??’
6. Carenza Lewis about finding food in the Middle Ages on ‘Time Team Live’ said: ‘You’d eat beaver if you could get it.’
7. A female news anchor who, the day after it was supposed to have snowed and didn’t, turned to the weatherman and asked, ‘So Bob, where’s that eight inches you promised me last night?’ Not only did HE have to leave the set, but half the crew did too, because they were laughing so hard!
8. Steve Ryder covering the US Masters: ‘Ballesteros felt much better today after a 69 yesterday.’
9. Clair Frisby talking about a jumbo hot dog on Look North said: ‘There’s nothing like a big hot sausage inside you on a cold night like this. ‘
10 Mike Hallett discussing missed snooker shots on Sky Sports: ‘Stephen Hendry jumps on Steve Davis’s misses every chance he gets.’
11. Michael Buerk on watching Philippa Forrester cuddle up to a male astronomer for warmth during BBC1’s UK eclipse coverage remarked: ‘They seem cold out there, they’re rubbing each other and he’s only come in his shorts.’
12. Ken Brown commentating on golfer Nick Faldo and his caddie Fanny Sunneson lining-up shots at the Scottish Open: ‘Some weeks Nick likes to use Fanny, other weeks he prefers to do it by himself.’
Garry- maybe they protest too much….
Weet weet weet, LOL 🙂
(The only one I didn’t get was No.6)
JTT
Just for you
“Nice Beaver”
WEETWEETWEET
There’s a joke about Majors winner Vijay Singh wanting to marry Faldo’s caddy,but I’m too polite to relate it on here. However,I was stuck in traffic on the A23 through Brixton about thirty-fuck,where did that go?!!!-years ago,and heard this.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p00jxdqj
OGLACH
The original Police Squad was fantastic,I hardly know anyone who watched it. Must track it down on YouTube.
“One does wonder if PL junior is at work here?”
One doesn’t! por cierto.
JTT53
Seriously, you never got number 6? 😊
Episode 1,the rest will be on the sidebar.
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Police+Squad&&view=detail&mid=213CC9DA9F4E91F4D0AB213CC9DA9F4E91F4D0AB&&FORM=VDRVRV
I thought it might be that! Never heard it used 🙁
BADABING
Speculation about who made that comment will last for as long as people believe it was made. I personally think along the same lines as you on this one,but it is strange perhaps that Charles feels able to question the lineage of his grandson while accepting-?- that of his son.
I’ve always said that I’m no fan of The Monarchy but that I can be a supporter of The Queen. That is my personal choice and opinion. Equally,I don’t think her son is fit to lace her drinks. The farce should end,and fittingly with someone who filled that role to her best.
Bobby, I tried to introduce Police Squad to the kids a couple of years back. Nah, too dated! It was funny back in the day, though.
Oglach & Garry
Thanks for the replies
I’m hoping he’s the next big thing and we’re getting him before the wealthy clubs have spotted him. I know nothing about him beyond what’s been said recently.
Hopefully PLs nefarious influence is nowhere near this.
The Star Above The Crest
‘Allegedly’ Aberdeen want him to be their next manager,🤔🤨🤨
The Star Above The Crest
Personally, I would prefer someone with more management experience, and a track record of winning trophies, than an untried rookie.
BMCUW- Hewitt will be raging…😁
Afternoon bhoys/girls
Score predictor league update 9/3/21
Points in brackets weekend fixtures..
Bada..7pts(3)..138(j)
Vp..7pts(4)..129
Bmcwp..(2)pts..120(j)
Garry..(4)pts..111(jj)
Mahe..(4)pts..111(jj)
McCaff.. (1)pt.. 110(j)
Trm..(2)pts..109(jj)
Atob..(2)pts..108
Cce..(1)pts.. 106(j)
Chalm..(1)pt..105(j)
G64..(5)pts..105
C76..0pts..100
Lct.. (2)pts..99
Ccb.. (o)pts..93
Jobo..(3)pts..47..
Well done g64 2 in A row hopefully a winner this week with the charity bet..good luck..
Only 2 fixtures this weekend..
Livingston15:00Hamilton
Ross County15:00Hibernian
Good luck…
Hello there pop pickers, thanks to a tip off from Craig 76, pop pickers started back up yesterday and he was right. We now have a new number 1, Enzo is now joint favourite at 15/8 but listed as number 1 by Skybet. Jim the Tim don’t be counting your winning yet, this could run and run. You know how much the PLC love to dither. Look at the new entry at number 4, the charts every now and again have a funny entry, well there’s nothing funny about him, number 4. Not a chance in hell.
Enzo Maresca
15/8
John Kennedy
15/8
Eddie Howe
8/1
Derek McInnes
10/1
Paul Lambert
14/1
Roberto Martinez
14/1
Martin O’Neill
16/1
Rafael Benitez
16/1
Sean Dyche
16/1
Steve Clarke
16/1
Alex Neil
20/1
Henrik Larsson
20/1
Michael O’Neill
20/1
Roy Keane
20/1
Jack Ross
22/1
Jindřich Trpišovský
22/1
Thierry Henry
22/1
Damien Duff
25/1
Dan Petrescu
25/1
Domenec Torrent
25/1
Frank Lampard
25/1
Gordon Strachan
25/1
Jesse Marsch
25/1
David Wagner
28/1
Lucien Favre
28/1
Shaun Maloney
28/1
John Terry
33/1
Mark Hughes
33/1
Slaven Bilic
33/1
Wayne Rooney
33/1
Andre Villas-Boas
40/1
Bruno Lage
40/1
Carlos Queiroz
40/1
David Martindale
40/1
John Coleman
40/1
Jose Bordalas
40/1
Julien Stephan
40/1
Mick McCarthy
40/1
Derek McInnes? Too much baggage I’m afraid. After all he turned down the Ibrox job! LOL 🙂
JTT53
An ex Rangers player would never get the Celtic manager job.
Would prefer John Kennedy to Derek McInnes
Huns chairman has written a crazy letter to S.G. among P.S.
As was said yesterday they are all blaming each other, not one iota of an apology or regret in his letter.
This, I thought, was the best bit.
The Rangers chairman has also written to Police Scotland expressing “exasperation” at comments yesterday “given the amount of work and effort that was put into engagement over the last number of weeks.”
) Rangers FC chairman: “We cannot understand that after police intelligence clearly highlighting that a celebratory crowd would gather, street furniture was not removed as is standard practice.”
Ha, if it wasn’t for those pesky benches!!!
Nothing about fans gathering in a pandemic.
They are bitter to the core.
JNP
Nicola Sturgeon having a go at the huns and their fans now.
JIMMYNOTPAUL
“Not our fault it got damaged,you left it there!”
So,in other words,to avoid them breaking the law-or anything else-anything that might be a breach of the law is actually just because it was there in the first place. I suppose that means that they demand 100% unrestricted access all areas.
Victim blaming,as wiser heads would term it. Same reason that they walked down Garvachy Road or spit on Catholic churches and priests. The offence only existed because those things existed,and since they don’t like them then they can have no blame attached.
Ruth Davidson sweeps Sunday under the carpet. It was only a tiny minority of football fans. Hunbelievable
Another bit of the long rambling letter.
Rangers have accused Nicola Sturgeon of a “dereliction of duty” and a “lack of leadership” for not engaging with the club ahead of the weekend’s title-winning celebrations.
In a letter to the First Minister, Rangers chairman Douglas Park says the Ibrox club are “at a loss” as to what more they could have done to limit the reaction to their Premiership victory.
Park also said deputy first minister John Swinney’s remarks on Monday that the “silence was deafening” from Rangers is “inaccurate, unbalanced and unfair”.
BMCUW. 2.35.
Correct.
Angela Haggerty, nailing it.
I … am I actually reading this correctly? The Rangers chairman thinks the police should have moved benches out of George Square to make it easier for a huge crowd to illegally gather in the middle of a pandemic. Ladies and gentlemen, here’s what entitlement looks like.
Multi millionaire Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar, as an aside, condemns scenes in Glasgow at weekend. Another sweep job from him and Davidson.
No mention of what scenes nor who was involved.
Only Sturgeon condemned them by naming the club and the perpetrators.
Patrick Harvie totally condemning the huns and their fans. Looking for punishment and repercussions for the trashing of Glasgow on Sunday.
Piers Morgan getting the Janey Godley treatment 😂😂😎
Fkn usual shite,Sturgeon dragging us into it