Celtic 6-0 Livingston

Morning,all.
 
 
Playing against Livingston has not been as easy as it should have been for the last couple of years. They have had a habit of getting right in amongst us in the middle and up front,while stifling us at the back. Their manager clearly takes a certain delight in that,as he should. Even if I can’t help thinking that this approach may not be entirely Livingston-centric. Witness his comments after the match where he recommended John Kennedy for the job!
 
 
Is that right,aye?
 
 
In fairness to the current interim manager,our last two performances have been amongst our best of the season-though that is hardly much to crow about. Neither Falkirk nor Livingston got near enough to even kick us properly,and neither referee bothered with a yellow card for either side. Must be a while since two games in succession went by without a card being issued,though I doubt there will be a hat-trick next weekend if the game even gets the go-ahead.
 
 
But to the match itself. We lined up with a little more familiarity than has been the case too often,with Eddy-who really needs to put his foot through the ball sometimes-spearheading the line and ably supported by Jamesie and Mo in the wider positions. Broonie anchored the middle which allowed DT and CalMac to press forward. Griff was relegated to the bench after his horror show last week,as were Christie and Tam. We started off where we left off the previous week,unrelenting movement and attacking at every opportunity. Yet Livi managed to frustrate us-well,me at least!-for the first half hour till we Jamesie fooled us all with his finish for the opener!
 
 
DT picked it up,played a quick pass to Eddie who flicked it into the box for Jamesie to take on the run. I don’t think the left foot finish quite went the way he planned,but it trundled past the deceived keeper to the bottom corner. We were better than good value for that at the time,yet our second a few minutes later also needed a little brush with Lady Luck. Greg Taylor played a lovely pass inside the defence for Mo to cross from the bye-line to the waiting DT a couple of yards out. His cross deflected off the covering defender,looped over the keeper,fell perfectly to DT,and even the Griff of last week would have put that away! So 2-0 up at half time,hardly undeserved,but the manner of the goals must have pissed our opponents off a tad. Pity,huh?
 
 
Well,we sure took no pity in the second half! We went for the throat,and no messing. The first ten minutes saw us doubling our lead. The first via a corner,which even after multiple replays is inconclusive as to whether Broonie or the under-pressure defender got the last touch. I’ll give it as an og,which will hopefully fire up our captain to make up for this injustice next weekend! The fourth followed a few minutes later-Mo had seen a similar effort saved just earlier by the keeper when a loose ball broke to him on the edge of the area,set up lovely for a curler from his right foot. He didn’t waste any time fannying about with a touch,just duly dispatched it to make it four. Really a delightful finish.
 
 
Which,if anything,he bettered for the fifth ten minutes later. Kris burst forward through the middle and this time Mo stayed right of central. That positioning compared to his first actually summed up his performance on the day-not just unplayable for much of the time,but bliddy difficult to pick up or mark. Kris got to the edge of the area,threaded it inside,Mo took a touch this time-and just like last week-dinked it over the onrushing keeper for probably the goal of the game. Simply delightful stuff,IMO.
 
 
Sometimes I really want this guy to stay,and then I remember some-too many-of his other performances. Maybe he’s a Samaras MkII,and I know how pissed off I was when his contract wasn’t renewed. And I remember how pissed off I could be at so many of his performances too. He’s nowhere near that level yet-except in how much he can frustrate me at times!!! Last I heard,he was available for £6m and at that price,even if only to preserve some continuity in the team after a likely huge summer turnover,I would be inclined to keep him.
 
 
And there’s an article in itself,I suppose…
 
 
The sixth and final goal-which was a very good finish indeed-owed itself to one of those “Efe moments” that we sadly became so familiar with over time. Struggling to do anything from the right side of defence,he passed it along the edge of the box and straight to Christie. He took it in his stride,ran into the box and finished calmly into the corner. I thought it was a really good finish,but he obviously didn’t rate it so highly,judging by his lack of celebration. Cheerio,son. Trust me,none of us will be saying in one year,two,three years or ever that we really miss you.
 
 
I’m not gonna finish this article on such a sour note though. I thought our performance on Saturday was outstanding. Full of running,movement,attacking intent. Hell,we even looked kinda solid at the back on the few occasions that Livi got on the ball. I don’t know whether the last couple of games have been down to coaching,or relief at the former manager no longer being in charge,or simply the paucity of the opposition. Frankly,I don’t care-never look a gift horse in the mouth! Ten goals in two games without reply is a good springboard for our visit to the hounds of hell next week. What’s not to like?
 
 

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BMCUW
Great article. Wee Martindale was born a hun in Glasgow and grew up a drug dealer in Livingston. He was once on the books at Ibrox.
He just has that hun look.
Hope we sign Moi Elyounoussi on a permanent deal. The most technically gifted player we have just now.

Twisty

Solid performance at the weekend. Destroyed a team that, as the article states, have caused us problems in recent years. They have however failed to win 8 of their last 10 games, their only 2 wins being a 2-1 win over Raith in the Scottish cup, and a win by the same score v Hamilton in the league. That gives reason for not getting too carried away.
The other side of the coin however is they’d only conceded an average of 1.5 goals per game in the last 9 matches leading up to their visit to CP, and that includes only one conceded against our next opponents, which was away at Ibrox, so there is some evidence for optimism as we approach the weekend.

It’ll be interesting to see if we can continue our domination v Sevco in terms of possession, but this time convert that to goals. We’ve dominated large parts of recent matches v them without capitalising when on top. ( added to poor refereeing of course)
That of course is the one certainty of the upcoming fixture. The desire to keep the domestic “ invincible” tag attached, though as I’ve said before, they already lost the invincible label when the crashed out the cup to St Mirren, but the referee will no doubt be keen to continue the myth.

Great result. 6 goals and a clean sheet. Let’s hope we can carry it forward. We might not need 6 at the weekend but allowing for the MIB influence, I suspect we will need 3 at least. Good chance we will finish with 10 men.

Thetic

That was some weekend of posts, sports, and music , well done everyone who took part or lurked.
I hope Leo Sayers had time to log in.

Twisty

The Tic
Leo’s always watching over this blog. He sees everything.
😁

A thing of beauty

Garry,
You are so right about Martindale having that hun look about him and I don’t have any time for him either but I think we both agree everyone deserves a second chance. What is more concerning is the finances of livi and how they get their money. Allegedly their financial housekeeping would put the Huns to shame and they have not posted their most recent accounts to the SFA. You really do wonder what the purpose of our governing body actually is.
Auldheid,
I was interested in your mention of the Westwing last night. Paddy’smaw is now watching it again for at least the third time. I, as the thick sister have never watched it once. I’ve tried several times but my wee brain just can’t cope and I’m befuddled by around the third scene. It demands a lot of concentration!!

bada bing1

So Livingston might not qualify for a European place,because their accounts aren’t up to scratch………have a wee think about that…..

JimmynotPaul

Morning all.
I hope you are all as well as can be, this morning.
Hopefully not treading on Jobo’s toes.
It’s gloriously sunny day, if a tad cold, here, in the land that time forgot.

JimmynotPaul

I know, I’m tempting fate here, but I feel that the blog has matured and for want of a better expression, has came of age.
The last 2 or 3 weeks, it truly has grown, with some exceptional leaders and posts.
My opinion is that the regulars have all found their ” niche “and every poster brings something different, to the blog.
Long may it continue.

JimmynotPaul

On this day.
35 years ago today, Aberdeen 0:1 Celtic.
Ok who was at this one. My guess is a few were, but I will plump for Magua.
Warning Judas scores.
https://t.co/846Z7OzDtr

Jobo Baldie

Good morning friends from a crisp and fry, below freezing East Kilbride.
Good match report Bobby with the only marks deducted being for the arithmetical error in your 2nd last sentence 😉

Twisty

JNP
I agree the blog has matured, I think the leaders from Mahe and Bobby are absolutely incredible. It’s not just one or two good ones a week, it’s almost every one. Ridiculously consistent quality. Champions League stuff.

Great platform for the posters to feed off.

The Gombeen Man

Thanks BMCWPS, that was a much better weekend of sport and a great article to kick-off the week.

Twisty and Friedorfer thank-you both for the replies on Saturday. I’m humbled by the Top 20. There’s been so many good things about the Blog recently, I really didn’t expect that. We’d a 1st, 3rd and 4th in the National too. Maybe I should have done the Lottery?

MIT,

I enjoyed reading your dialogue with Auldheid and BMCUWPS about Forgiveness.

For me, the salient point about the Crucifixion was despite feeling forsaken in his dying moments, Jesus was able to plead for the Forgiveness of the people that put him to death.

Mercy, Mercy, Mercy.

After his Resurrection, there was no malice, no eye for an eye. Only Forgiveness and Love.

It’s difficult for the human mind to contemplate that no matter what, we’re completely and Unconditionally Loved.

No conditions and Jesus’ willingness to forgive at the time of his death demonstrated that.

We’re an evolving species, there’s been relatively few humans of such a high level of consciousness. Most of us believe that our pain is an individual thing and don’t see the universality of it.

We run away from, suppress or project pain and haven’t been able to grasp the transformative power of pain, the willingness to forgive and the dark side of our own heart.

Organized religion still struggles with this, much in the same way as the Pharisees struggled with it during Jesus’ life.

We really can’t fathom how deep and unconditional Love is.

Maybe that’s the journey?

Till Later.

Jobo Baldie

JimmynotPaul – I was there and have a wee story around that weekend, just before I head out.
On the Friday night I was at a disco (remember them, kids?) and was chatted up by the future Mrs Baldie who remembered me from school. Ended up asking her out for a drink the following evening, and she said yes. Went back over to my mates and told them I had a date the following evening. ‘Eh, naw yieve no” said Garry – we’re away to Aberdeen tomorrow and won’t be back till after 9!
Back over I went and sheepishly asked “could I take you out on Sunday instead”. “Tell you what”, said she, “phone me on Sunday afternoon and I’ll let you know”!
At least she was fully aware of the other love of my life right from the start!
35 years later and we’re getting ready for our usual morning walk….

The Gombeen Man

Just a brief postscript,

I agree the Blog has matured during this difficult Season by staying with it and not allowing things to become personalised.

We’re often too hard on ourselves. Mahe and BMCUWPS have led the way here but not harbouring grudges and letting go of things that have been written in the heat of the moment.

Many others have shown the same willingness to move on and the Blog has benefitted as a result, imo.

Forgiveness in action.

Balornockbhoy

Morning all.I see Tierneys out for the rest of the season.Just as well he is at Arsenal as going by reports our medical team would have stuck a bandaid on and said run it off.!
Also want to say the writing on here is of a superb standard and never fails in getting you thinking.

JimmynotPaul

Jobo 8.44.
Great story.
I love stuff like that.
How joyous, that 35 years later, you are still together.
A heart warming story. 💚

JimmynotPaul

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JOBO

Good spot! For some reason,I had it in my napper that we won 4-0 last weekend. Tsk,tsk-must do better.

JimmynotPaul

The Scottish FA and SPFL will hold an emergency breakfast meeting on Monday morning in a bid to thrash out a contingency plan to reschedule this weekend’s packed Scottish Cup card around the funeral of Prince Phillip, which will be held at 15:00 BST on Saturday, amid a log-jammed league card.

The Scottish Grand National, at Ayr, has already been moved from Saturday to Sunday.

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Folks,that’s a really lovely way to start off the week. Thank you,truly humbled.

I hope I don’t sound patronising by reiterating that the site is only as good as its posters,and I reckon we have the best around! In fact,The TWISTY Chart Show yesterday proved that.

Take a bow,y’all…

Twisty

Bobby
Thanks . It was a pleasure to do it. I’m thinking I’ll need to make it a top 40, given the number of quality posts I’d to leave out.

There’ll be a few disappointed posters on Sunday when they realise they’ve slipped out the charts.

Gonna need some consistency to become the Elvis or Beatles ( or Leo Sayer😁) and be that ever present chart act.

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JIMMYNOTPAUL

The obvious move is to Saturday lunchtime-but BBC have Stranraer v Hibs for 1215 scheduled. Sunday at 2pm is Aberdeen v Livi on Premier. So either Saturday evening,530pm in direct opposition to Chelsea v Man City FA Cup semi,or Friday evening are the only viable alternatives.as there are midweek league fixtures which rule out the Monday night.

bournesouprecipe

Howe is the identikit Desmond appointment.

John Kennedy is a Peter Lawwell product, but he could be the Celtic manager one day perhaps, just not this time round. When you live in Glasgow and watch Celtic on the box with sound effects like you’re in Beirut from when Sevco win their first title, a few more bangs in a silence don’t measure up to much. I like the cut of Kennedy’s jib, he made more noise calling out the SFA, and echoed Neil Lennon who was regularly hand fed to the press from the Bolingoli days by Celtic’s virtual board. Allegedly absentee large shareholders with twiddly moustaches are one thing, but when the Chairman and the CEO decide to take a lock down year out, or a career break around 10, what could possibly go wrong?

What can John Kennedy do with the same players? you may ask, same training regimes, same shape, whatever it is, he had them put a long overdue 6 past Livingston in the only game we’ve scudded anybody this year. Celtic supporters watch with weary eyes, and any progress made, will only be measured if Celtic follow it up with a win in our their next cup tie, where the SFA have already made their move, and appointed a favourite referee, just in case.

A win at the stolen stadium could be the perfect pick me up for our support as we await Eddie Howe’s decision which prompted another diplomatic John Kennedy quote, reiterating that the Celtic vacancy is massive in modern terms. A wobbling press with the knowledge we’re homing in on the best, the next few weeks could begin to heal the hurt felt by a support about to witness the birth of the next era.

Hail Hail

Twisty

BSR
Great post.

Who is the referee this weekend?

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TWISTY

Referee appointment not yet decided. The result of the Lanarkshire Referees musical goats competition has not yet been declared.

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BSR

I’ve nothing against JK,but this is not the time for a rookie boss.

Mike in Toronto

Twisty@9:36

Gonna need ‘some consistency’, to crack the Charts, are we?

That sounds suspiciously like code for Payola (as they used to call record payments to DJ’s to ensure their songs made the Top 40)… an envelop on your desk every week, is it? The ghost of Allan Freed arises.

I am shocked … shocked and appalled, I say! I thought Scottish football was above such chicanery.

Just out of interest, how much for avTop 5? With Covid and all, I’m not sure I could afford a number 1. Incidentally, do you take PayPal?

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WTF?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

Sorry,part of my two posts a few minutes ago appeared as my moniker. Bloody confusing.

Twisty

Efferees Commitee

Thx

I did t think BSR was advocating JK for the post at this time? If I did think that I’d certainly not have said “ great post” 😁

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MIKEINTORONTO

TWISTY is an honourable man,and would never lower himself to such chicanery-for less than a four figure sum.

Mike in Toronto

Bmcuwp

Don’t want to start another Brexit debate, but would that be pounds or Euros? Maybe bitcoin?

Twisty

Mike in Toronto
Twisty@9:36

Gonna need ‘some consistency’, to crack the Charts, are we?

That sounds suspiciously like code for Payola (as they used to call record payments to DJ’s to ensure their songs made the Top 40)… an envelop on your desk every week, is it? The ghost of Allan Freed arises.

I am shocked … shocked and appalled, I say! I thought Scottish football was above such chicanery.

Just out of interest, how much for avTop 5? With Covid and all, I’m not sure I could afford a number 1. Incidentally, do you take PayPal?

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Mike, that’s a scurrilous insinuation. I’d rather not lower myself to debate this in public. If you want to discuss this further, you can mail me privately at

twistytakesatennerforatoptwentyplacing.con

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.con!

Brilliant.

Twisty

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MIKEINTORONTO

TWISTY is an honourable man,and would never lower himself to such chicanery-for less than a four figure sum.
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Another character assassination. Deary me.

Bobby – since you’re on though, can you send Auldheid and The Gombeen Man a mail for me. Just a brief note :

“Hi . Checked my account this morning and that wee gift ( nudge nudge 😉 😉) has landed”

Thanks Bobby.😬

Twisty

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.con!

Brilliant.

😂

Mike in Toronto

Twisty

A tenner?!

You are selling yourself way too short. Eventually, BMCUWP and Mahe as the owners of the site, will come sniffing around looking for their taste (to be fair Mahe has a kid to support, while Mick has a Kitts of his own).

Of course, At some point, this is going to blow up, and you are going to need a lawyer, and I’m not sure we can afford me if you are going to give it away for a tenner ….

Noel Skytrot

I only managed to watch the highlights of the game but we looked quicker and crisper in moving the ball particularly in the final third of the pitch. While its always great to get a solid win and score a few, the mark of where we are comes when we play those who can do no wrong. Moving on to the weird and wonderful weekend series of ‘ Why Scottish Referees Are So Shite’ episode 25,1872. Can anyone tell me why Hibernian’s goal was disallowed at the weekend? staggering stuff. What chance has any team regardless of who they are when they play the carpetbaggers? Why aren’t the other clubs kicking up a fuck about this?

McCaff

A Tenner! Only a Tenner!! I sacrificed my musical credibility by posting God knows how many Leo Bloody Sayer tunes!! A Tenner FFS Twisty…a wee bit of a heads up would’ve been nice!!
Seriously though, you must have put a lot of work into compiling the list – but for an extra 2 hunner quid I can see why you’re thinking of making it a Top 40!
It won’t be long before we get the full Twisty’s Billboard 100…where will it all end?
😱🤣🤣🤣

Twisty

Mike – McCaff

Let’s just say the current rate is something of a loss leader.

Need to move. Done sod all today other than a short road trip.

fanny

Lawwell and the Deja Vu’s.
Like the Lennon roadshows and a real Celtic man shite the trickle down tactic for Kennedy has begun.
One decent performance in his tenure so far and the charade begins.
The so called long careful research into appointing the right personnel.
If he was the right candidate why did they not appoint when season was still savable?
More likely another manipulative attempt to shore in their preferred cheaper old firm candidate without upsetting the fan base and their gravy train.
They will be hoping he gets to end of season without loss so they can justify their choice.
Same as it ever was CSC.
Not making sense,

JimmynotPaul

Twisty/BMCUW.
Bobby Madden has been appointed as the referee for the Scottish Cup clash between Rangers and Celtic. The experienced SFA whistler will be assisted by David McGeachie and Graeme Stewart, with Kevin Clancy as the fourth official.

No doubt be will be wearing his Sevco top underneath his referee top.

A thing of beauty

Jobo,
Loved your story about you and your wife. As you say at least she knew from the off you had another love. Mr ATOB has no love for the football but I never had to worry about a babysitter when the game was on!!
So Madden next week eh. Let’s hope he remembers his social distancing when morelos needs to be held back from getting sent off – AGAIN.
Noel,
I said last night that the establishment are intent on an invincible season for them. Obviously st Mirren beating them in the cup does not count. In any other country it would be embarrassing. Here? Just the norm.
Right back to work.

DannyMac23

JnP

Bobby Madden

Quelle Suprise as Monsieur Del boy would say.

We are used to playing against the 12th man when we play against the forces of darkness.In the two games we have to play v them this season let’s go and dump them out of the cup and put this invincible tag in the league to bed.They are not a decent team,organised yes but no more than that.As Don Robertson proved on Saturday when they need help its forthcoming but you can only chop off so many goals,so lets go there play like we can and blight their season,we can do this.

Twisty,In the short period I have had the pleasure in hopefully contributing to the blog I believe you are a man of Integrity and incorruptible but that said

You make me feel like dancing,more than I can say when I need you,the show must go on, I am a one man band giving it all away, the end.

Danny

CaltonTongues

Afternoon All,

AFARB 😁

HH

BMCUW

Sound stuff, as always…and ye were spot on the Michael and Enzo The Baker.

DannyMac and MIT

That was great craic last night, discussing favourite movies. Sorry that this particular lightweight had to retire early…at least these days, I know when to chuck it.

The Gombeen Man

A couple of excellent posts today. Thank you.

Hail Hail.

JNP

I remember that game very well for a few reasons.

Had just started dating a new lass, and she wanted to go to a game. Did not want to take her on my supporters bus, as it was full of ne’er-do-wells and footpads. Crackin’ bus. Anyhoo, decided to get the stagecoach from Buchanan Street. Everything was grand till the bus left Dundee. After that, it stopped at every feckin’ But and Ben on the East Coast. Five and a half hours on that bus.

Needless to say, we got the train back.

Also, I really felt after that game that “We can do this”…and so it proved to be the case, a couple of weeks later. A right GIRFUY, that makes any Jambo fan suffer to this day.

Hail Hail.

Rebus67

Why do we enjoy being a fan of a football club? It is too early in the week to provide a complete answer to that question but here is a thought. Over the weekend I watched Liverpool /Villa and Spurs/MU. The football was very good in both games. It seemed that the Pool, AV and MU players still believe in their manager and will go the extra mile for them. It is not so clear that this is the case with Jose and Spurs. Spurs played well enough in the first half but as soon as things started to go against them in the second half, they fell away. IMHO, Mourinho is well into the downward spiral in his career. There is very little that is special about the Special One these days.

What does this have to do with the reasons for watching football? Here is my point. Part of the reason that we follow a team is that their performance reflects aspects of our life. We like particular players because we see a bit of ourselves in them…….reflections of what we might have been, perhaps. Our favourites carry our dreams. Willy Wallace bringing a ball down with one foot and shooting with the other! Turnbull’s scooped passes over the top and so on. We see our dreams unfold before our eyes and their joy is also ours.

Continuing on, as I must, to the topic of today…..our thrashing of Livi, let me tell a story.

In the late sixties I fulfilled a dream and got a job in the centre of London. Carnaby Street, the Chelsea drugstore, mini skirts and the Maquis club left me living in a world that contrasted sharply with Knightswood.

The one problem was my boss. He was something from the dark ages…….too small for his position, no innovation, stuck somewhere in the forties. Everyone, even toadies, disliked him. He took a particular dislike to me. Why? I believe because the complete opposite from him….young, bright, liked, and good at my job.
What happened? Eventually I just did my job, nothing else. I kept my professionalism but I gave up trying to innovate or go the extra mile. I started looking for a move and found it by moving back to Scotland. My new boss had his limitations, as we all do, but he was prepared to give me my head. I would have run through a brick wall for him.

All of the above is reflected in Celtic this season. Early on, many players lost respect for the manager. His approach was old school. No sports science, no tactics, no plan for player development. Ultimately, no hope!
Kennedy, while NOT the answer, benefits simply by not being NL. He has a tactical approach. He respects individual players rather than throwing them under a bus and he calls out cheating.

As in life, teams thrive if they get the correct manager/coach in situ. How many of us would have loved to play for Jock Stein?

Throwing it open, why do you follow football?

Rebus

DannyMac23

Magua

Enjoyed it,We all love movies for different reasons.Its good to hear other posters thoughts on their favourites.

Fanny

Same as it ever was.Talking heads fan or too presumptuous?

Garry

We agree on our favourite ever Celt in Daniel Fergus McGrain.Loved the guy.

Danny.

Auldheid

The Gombeen Man

I enjoyed reading your dialogue with Auldheid and BMCUWPS about Forgiveness.

For me, the salient point about the Crucifixion was despite feeling forsaken in his dying moments, Jesus was able to plead for the Forgiveness of the people that put him to death.

Mercy, Mercy, Mercy.

After his Resurrection, there was no malice, no eye for an eye. Only Forgiveness and Love.

It’s difficult for the human mind to contemplate that no matter what, we’re completely and Unconditionally Loved.

No conditions and Jesus’ willingness to forgive at the time of his death demonstrated that.

We’re an evolving species, there’s been relatively few humans of such a high level of consciousness. Most of us believe that our pain is an individual thing and don’t see the universality of it.

We run away from, suppress or project pain and haven’t been able to grasp the transformative power of pain, the willingness to forgive and the dark side of our own heart.

Organized religion still struggles with this, much in the same way as the Pharisees struggled with it during Jesus’ life.

We really can’t fathom how deep and unconditional Love is.

Maybe that’s the journey?

Till Later.
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I agree with all that you say and for me I think you have hit on the purpose of the journey – to be at one with love. That for me is the atonement message of the crucifixion, not a sacrifice to make an angry God feel better and less vengeful.

This line “It’s difficult for the human mind to contemplate that no matter what, we’re completely and Unconditionally Loved.” is the biggest hurdle I had to face and I think that applies to many.

I mean its just too good to be true but I needed the reminder, so thanks. It energised my spirits when I read it just as it happened when the idea first took root.

For MIT and BMCUW on the subject of forgiveness from the academic approach of the IFI, I put together years ago a slide show at

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B62m3ggkEX2RWHFtemtuYm5wNDQ/view?usp=sharing

that is a kind of walk through of the IFI process.

To view as a slide show look for the Open With Option and choose Google Slides. On slide screen there is a ” Present” button on top right hand side of screen and readers can select from the beginning. To move through pars in a slide or to the next one a left click on mouse button does that.

On looking over it last night my attention was drawn to the Laughing Christ graphic the two initial slides that starts to make sense when the realisation of unconditional love begins to take root. It is symbolic of Christ’s belief in an unconditionally loving God which is why I used it.

It is a journey though and folks will make it in their own time and pace with sign posts on the way. Pain is part of the journey which is why the last two slides borrow from Gibran’s words on Sorrow and Joy. What I thought of at a very painful time in my life as punishment from an angry God was in fact the best medicine ever – hence the laughter.

I’ll end by saying ” Buckle up folks, its a hell of a journey for us all, but we will come out of it laughing.

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