Retrospective Punishment

I’m smiling as I type this but I recall my old man going on a one man crusade after suffering what he considered unjust retrospective punishment.
The charge in question was speeding, and he was absolutely livid to receive a photo of himself in his wagon with his speed at the time printed below, popped through the letterbox with a request for a decent amount.
 
 
Having not been stopped by the police themselves, but summoned via machine incensed him. But at the same time, there was a recognition that the camera never lies. He did the crime, he just figured getting home without any interference meant getting away with it, how very wrong.
It left a lasting impression, once bitten twice shy and all that. Anytime he spied the dreaded white van, the group text went out, and if one inch illegally parked he threatened the fuzz on them citing safety concerns until they moved on.
 
 
It’s the same reason why so many use dashcams now, the same reason cops are being mandated to wear body cams, hell the same reason Tictoc has blew up,,the camera just does not lie.
As cold hearted as a shark it simply does it job.
 
 
The United Kingdom is one of the most heavily CCTV nations on earth, a small condensed landmass, and Scotland has more than it’s fair share of cameras.
Given the amount of alcohol on display at the weekend, many of those illegal gatherers would have used public transportation to congregate, again heavily covered by cameras.
There’s also the regular traffic and street cameras, the businesses cameras in that affected areas, plus a plethora of online videos.
George Square also itself has a webcam.
I’ve no doubt those who gathered could if necessary be found. The images are out there, numerous and on occasion horrific.
 
 
The police may or may not be lying when they claim they can’t tackle that large a drunken crowd, but on that logic there’s zero defense to not retrospectively punish.
There’s no lack of manpower involved, no question of guilt just like the speeding photo, there only needs to be the will and the envelopes with factual images and a fixed penalty fine drop through doors.
 
 
You can’t tackle that large a gathering at the time,,tackle it afterwards through the courts. Fine if you don’t want to hit the average fan who drank,sang, and went home, but there’s hundreds if not thousands of indecent images from urinating in the street to attacking riot police with bollards.
Now of course we have video of that team itself belting out illegal tunes at and illegal gathering, the camera doesn’t lie despite what the Ibrox spin machine claims.
Why would the stewart attempt to censure cameras if nothing unsavoury was taking place?
 
 
We have socially accepted retrospective punishment on the roads, sorry dad, and it’s become the norm in the national sport also with a panel meeting weekly to adjudicate on the previous weeks possible injustices.
VAR could be considered a form of retrospective punishment occasionally.
We now have the situation where it’s the safest way to punish an unmanageable crowd of lawbreakers (and a smaller one), all that’s needed is to okay then embrace this step.
 
 
After we got hit hard and very publicly with regards to Dubai, Tims quite rightly expect consequences for illegal actions, en masse or not.
This one, uncomfortable as it may be for many in high circles, is very important and there will be many eyes watching what happens here.
They say justice is blind but those cameras aren’t.
How about making full use of them?
 
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Mike in Toronto

Was hoping the Leicester and Liverpool would get the final 2 CL spots… but that seems unlikely.

But credit where it is due … Tuchel has done a great job of turning that Chelsea team around since taking over …

Mike in Toronto

disappointing performance by Leicester today … Chelsea just seemed much more up for it…

And a crazy game for Werner … has two goals chalked off (correctly) by VAR … then he is not given a spot kick for what was a much more obvious foul… but then gets brought down for Chelsea’s second goal….

Mike in Toronto

Hey BP

How’s life treating you?

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MIKEINTORONTO

Looks likely that Leicester could blow it again,as they did last season.

Craig76

BMCUWP
I reckon that was all part of there plan. Ask Scot Gov if they can have fans. Scot Gov say NO
Huns then release mealy mouthed statements to fans for them to celebrate safely knowing full well they will cause carnage
Then blame Scot Gov saying we tried look here is the emails its all the big bad people in Hollyrood that hate us fault.

Hi ghuys if this gets thru I’m on holiday in a place where the name celtic is very prominant cyber pint if you where

craig76

BP
Larkhall

Garry

BP
Stalybridge?

Garry

Leeds United up to 8th in EPL after beating Southampton away. Above Everton and Arsenal in league. Decent first season back in EPL.

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BIGPACKY

Enjoy your break,mate.

Craig 76 no chance
Mike in Toronto wee joan has just showed me how to post òn my phone been missing you all give my best wishes to my best pal jim

ASWGL

Who goes on holiday to Govan ? shame on you bp 😍

I would guess Lisbon but can’t see wee joan checking into airport 72hrs before the flight

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Craig76

Would not surprise me.

Bobby cheers Garry no penzance another true story

Craig76

To many vids appearing online they need to change the narrative
https://mobile.twitter.com/Zeshankenzo/status/1394721978972577795/photo/1

This is horrible trying to post on my phone will be home tomorrow god wiing will speak then Cornwall is lovely by the way but don’t go to lands end it costs a fiver to park up and there is feck all there another true story

bada bing1

Justice Secretary: “I woke up this morning to two rabid anti-Catholic messages which I have reported to the police. I’m neither a Catholic nor Irish, but that hatred was directed towards me, and I am intending to call it out.”

Good on

@HumzaYousaf

ASWGL

Well enjoy it while it lasts packy, and treat Joan to an ice cream, and no a cheap thruppeny wan 🤣

Mahe

That must be the final straw, the club must never let that prick in the Park again.
Disgraceful comments from him.

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MAHE

Who?

Craig76

BMCUWP
I assume Mahe is talking about Nicholas

Mahe

Nicholas,

ASWGL

I was kinda hoping he meant Jonjo Kenny, but oh well 🤣

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ASWGL

There’s a good few should never darken our doorstep again.

ASWGL

I just made 2 new backgrounds I uploaded them in media see what you think of them

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ASWGL

Very impressive!

Garry

Mahe
Nicholas is not the only one. His mate Walker another I would ban.

Garry

ASWGL
I would not be too upset if we sold or released every player on our books just now.
There is not one current Celtic player who I think is the real deal Celtic quality. That is the state we are in.

Maestro Fan

Lee Naylor damning Lawwell today.

ASWGL

Garry aye we lost a few good ones in, Lustig Tierney Armstrong Dembele for around £50m and replaced them with highland league quality players and loanees that can’t get a game down south for 2nd rate teams, downhill all the way.

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

I see Wullie Haughey sold 24% of his company for 640 million. I knew he was rich but no that rich

Maestro Fan

The 10K dead cat story – you could’ve set your watch by it. Breathtakingly cynical maybe, but entirely consistent with the hun playbook. Cards they play each time this happens, enabled by their acolytes in the media.

Never forget Desmond and Lawwell knew exactly what they were when they went all-in on the blue pound.

I am all-in on a boycott, or at least the 6 week delay, Starve these bar stewards of what they crave. They really do think Eddie Howe is going to let them gloss all over this. Detestable bunch.

Garry

ASWGL
As Neil Lennon told Dermot Desmond.
“You sold all my best players and replaced them with shite.”
It is still happening.
From Tierney to Taylor is truly heartbreaking downsizing.
Taylor would be on the bench if he was a Clydebank Juniors player.

timhorton

Very difficult to crack the top four in EPL,i think Brendans team is top six or seven the above have spent billions over the years and have good coaches. They also don’t fart around if a change is needed.

ASWGL

Nana i think he is reportedly in the 200million mark of personal or family wealth, and might still own Celtic park, i know he owned it when Fergus was there

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TIMHORTON

Another problem that BR will have to deal with soon is an aging squad. Won’t be easy replacing them either.

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Never knew he owned Celtic park when did that happen

Garry

Timhorton
Leicester City are 4th in the EPL tonight.
We went from Brendan to Neil.
Just go for Bielsa Dominic.
Leeds United in 8th place in EPL tonight.
Great season for them.

ASWGL

In 2000 he registered it, after purchasing it from Glasgow council.

https://scotlis.ros.gov.uk/property-summary/GLA150218

Garry

I really hope that the next Celtic manager is not Eddie Howe.

Garry

I thought Willie Haughey owned Hampden?

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

ASWGL I was always under the impression we owned our ground so previously we were tenants of Glasgow council

ASWGL

I think he gave them a top up gift/loan Garry call it as you will the SFA or whoever where only prepared to pay 2m of the 6m asking price for hampden and Haughey gave 2m my recollection isn’t good on whether it was a gift/loan, though he did also give some sort of donation to Queens park, not sure if that made him a co part or owner

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Garry he likely owns ibrox as well

Garry

Mind you.
Hampden is our second home. Saw my first Cup Final there 6-1 v Hibs 72 when I was 6.
Saw my first Celtic v Rangers game there in 1980.
My dad took me to my first ever Celtic game in 1967, when I was 2. It was at Hampden, and we beat Morton 7-1. Remember none of it. 😁
Hampden means a lot to me, with those 3 significant firsts happening there for me.

ASWGL

Ha ha Nana

Nana it was probably owned by GDC with the Kelly White biscuit tin mob, The Co-op held a mortgage on it after that, coz i think that’s where Fergus moved banks to due to better rates than from BOS, it was most likely put up as an asset to get loans, but i know it is/was registered to WH.

Garry

ASWGL
I know he had some involvement with Hampden. Thought it was part ownership with SFA.

Garry

Nana
Hahaha. Probably the bould Willie bought doomdome furra quid.

Nana Mouskouri C.sc

Fecks sake Garry you remember nothing of the game against Morton were you on the drink at that early age