Rating the BIG window

As windows go, I doubt we shall ever see bigger folks, and if we do, things have gone pear shaped.
Midway through last season many of us saw the writing on the wall, noticed the big rebuild was needed asap which only one year before was denied by the man running football operations.
‘Couple of players only needed’ he proclaimed, and that’s what he delivered, as well as keeping wantaways.
It was nowhere near enough, then he steps sideways and his successor announces that which is obvious, we need rebuilt as a squad and as a footballing operation.

 

It’s at this juncture it must be said not many of us expected such incoming numbers. We may have wanted them, but few if any thought we would sign twelve players in total. However, having been through too many Pukkis and Banguras, I shall refrain from praising the club until we can access what they’ve actually bought.
It wasn’t the squad that needed bulking, it was the first team ready players Ange needed, so most of the new bhoys should be ready to hit the ground running for that is what’s needed here.

 

On the actual numbers delivered it would be easy to sit here and type well done Celtic for buying a brand new team, but on the other hand it would be sensible to ask why do we need a whole new team? As this is a hole of the boards making, digging themselves out of it doesn’t automatically come with praise.
The large numbers of arrivals merely serve to highlight the board’s ineptitude, not flatter them. Never again should we need such numbers brought in.
That’s Dom’s job, to put in place the structures that would see such extreme lurching ending. It may just be his most important job actually.

 

Looking at how we went about our business, and when, to this untrained eye it’s easy to spot new traits (Dominic’s influence) but some of the old ones are still quite evident (Peters influence).
It’s quite refreshing most of our buys are for the here and now, I love the fact some are about to hit their peak years with us, something we usually witness with lesser or domestic players.
Kyogo, GMac, Josip, CCV, should be peaking whilst in the Hoops, the others could, and I’m quite looking forward to that.

 

After Eddie Who (who might be thinking of the situation differently now the squad has drastically changed) then going all in on our Greek Australian leader, it was clear he was going to be heavily backed,,so I’m believing our new CEO had little choice but to deliver ready made professionals, probably had to promise it scouts honour.
Ange isn’t stupid, he’s no time for projects this season, he would have asked for solid professionals and in the most part he got them.

 

We also saw Dom’s influence by strengthening positions that already had two or three candidates. Under Peters watch this neve
That’s how the football world works, and that’s how the board works. Now you know, so no excuses, no surprises.
You won’t be changing the transfer market alone, but if unhappy at the board’s attitude then take steps to change that culture. To protect yourself, and your man Ange, and more importantly the club itself.

 

Once again we resorted to selling a player then bringing in replacement, but only after banking a large percentage of the sale, sometimes very large. That’s the old PLC keeping football operations in check, and the gravy flowing.
It’s time to break that mentality, and hopeful Dom has cottoned on the stronger the team the stronger the balance sheet.
We needn’t buy a seven million rated player for every single position on the Park, but we could aspire to field one, whether our own or a free/expiring contract player. Then move to eight million players all over, and keep going until this club, manager or Dom plateaus.

 

The club and by extension Dom don’t get a pass mark on players out either, but Peters prospects that are hard to shift sometimes.
Barkas turned down a loan apparently, it’s hard to see why but the club should treat him as well as they can whilst here although now he has a compatriot to either keep company, inspire, or bitch to.
G-Mac better be a strong character, for I doubt his countryman is happy.

 

Unlike the Griff loan, it’s hard to say Ryan or Odsonnes departure was handled correctly. On Ryan you offer a new contract with eighteen months remaining, if the player rejects you assess his likely impact from that point and the impact spending his likely fee would achieve.
If spending his fee would have more of an impact there’s no decision to make.
Ryan should have been sold one year ago, like a few others, he would have fetched much more. He was handled wrong, it was costly.

 

As for Eddy, we effed that one up.
“A home run” I recall the headlines when we signed him permanently. He was our first attempt at big buy ‘flipping’ ,and we flopped. Made more profit on Moussa and even Kris, neither of whom I recall being labelled home runs.
Just like Ryan we waited a year too long, another costly mistake. It wasnt a seller’s market, in slight mitigation.
Striker wise, two plus Ajeti to deliver the title,,,not ideal. Yes goals come from other areas, but that’s not enough, let’s hope it gets us through until January.

 

One advantage the current Champions always held was that they were settled in the main, ourselves far from. Turning a squad in transition into title winners won’t be easy, I really don’t envy Ange on that front. But it’s his job now to find the best players for his system, for he admittedly isn’t changing, but yet he doesn’t know half of them, on the field or off it.
Already behind in the race, not only a winning team but also a solid team that can hold their own in the bigger games to come is expected. That might be quite a task, but it’s whats expected.
This is the world famous Glasgow Celtic we are talking about after all.

 

Its hard to judge a window without witnessing the quality of the player whilst actually donning the beloved hoops.
I’ve seen a few lightweights be overcome out on that left wing, will Jota become another?
Will our new redheaded Irishman’s love of the club affect the dressing room?
Could another Greek George become a cult hero?
We have no answers to many questions, yet.

 

But we can judge,,in areas such as age,,appearances International or otherwise,,and our new bhoys history.
Overall, I award the club 7 out of 10.
Ange has been backed, but some areas still look weak, though in fairness we were never fixing everything with only one window. We could have done with areas strengthened before the derby, not after, now Ange finds himself not only behind but attempting to blend new players into the team while expected to produce Champions, quite a task.
For everyone involved, now the hard work well and truly begins.
We want OUR trophy back!
Up the Hoops.

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Pitymevin

Very balanced header Mahe, great read first thing in the morning and as you say only time will tell with regards to the new signings.

If we are to go off the start of the players we have seen so far, we might just be OK.

CFC

Mahe

12 in , two are likely to be deemed “projects” Shaw and Uroghide , and hopefully McCarthy doesn’t prove to be too fragile and we get to see him play regularly.
Therefore, 9/10 first team/ squad ready players.
CCV and Scales have a decent number of games under their belts at Championship and League of Ireland level and are hopefully battle hardened.
Add Bain, Ralston, Welsh, Taylor, Montgomery, Julien ( see comments re JMcC above), Calmac, Soro, Turnbull, Rogic, Forrest, Ajeti, Johnston( JMcC comments apply) and we have our 22/23 man squad.

One noticeable factor is how lightweight it looks- to me anyway. The whole 22 will be needed to play Domestic and European football. An intense and robust four months of football.

The other factor from the squad churn this calendar year is that based on reported figures we are £20m or so up on deals. No idea if this is accurate but if it is a close guesstimate we have funds available for further business in January.
Or convert loans CCV and Jota to permanents.

Perhaps Ange will revisit the J-League.

As it stands we go with what we have.

Thetic

I am glad Eddy and Griff are gone. I don’t know how any scout could have watched Eddy lately ,and seen a player worth more than $5 million. Griffiths will come back and score against us but he does not deserve to play on a Team like Celtic, he was taken care of when down and didn’t show any gratitude to his employer team mates or fans
Ryan I have to give credit for effort, I think he will regret leaving , I also think Ange could have brought the best out of him.
Watched Ryan Gauld in Vancouver last Sunday , he was the best player on the Park , makes Eddy look like a big STUKIE , never stopped moving, the whole time he was on the Park

Garry Postecoglou

Thetic.
Griff won’t score against us, as he will be ineligible to play against us. It is a season long loan. Hopefully he scores against the rest of the SPFL.

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MAHE

Very fair summation of events during the window,and to the reasons why such a huge rebuild was necessary.

Dom and AP have worked wonders to provide the players and the cover to compete domestically. It is now down to the players and to how well they adapt to AP’s coaching and football ethos.

If I’m honest,I expected more of the signings to be loans,just to tide us over while we tinkered at the edges. I’m glad to see that route wasn’t chosen.

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GARRY

Good point!!!

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends.
So, am I right in thinking we now only have 2 loan players, one of whom – Jota – includes an option to buy?

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JOBO

Two loans and definitely the option to buy Jota. Not sure if we have an option on CCV. The deal might have been too late to negotiate that at the time.

Thetic

Gary you are right about this year never thought of that, but being the type of person he is he will think he has been hard done by ,and will be out for revenge

Friesdorfer

Good Morning all. For info, I was pinged as a close contact on Tuesday lunchtime, had a PCR test same afternoon and negative result yesterday afternoon – thankfully. I mention this only because of the Hoot on Saturday, which I attended. Not to say that was the cause, but who knows. Just reinforces the need to be vigilant. Stay safe everyone.
HH

St tams

Be surprised if Griffiths scores against anyone again. He is finished at top level.

We still look light in the middle of the park. We lost 3 from there. Brown, Ntcham and Christie and brought in only McCarthy

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FRIESDORFER

I had a test yesterday too,also negative.

Not because I was pinged but because my niece was giving me a lift to Glasgow and I wanted to make sure I didn’t give her the lurgy!!!

CFC

St tams

Re midfield- we could have added energy and a wee bit of steel with McCann for a reasonably modest outlay. £1.25m initially reported.

That’s close to the amount we’ve reputedly received from the Hendry sell on windfall.

bada bing1

3 arrests from last week’s singing banter

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BADABING

Hmmmm…

Still nobody been in court over George Square etc earlier in the year,so this too will be swept under the carpet.

jimthetim53

G’day all & Packy.

The focus for Ange in that window was wide. Very wide. Just about every position needed a 1st team ready player or back up. That was a huge task. A big ask.
Come January he will know his squad inside out. They will all have experienced at least 4 months of his coaching/style. He will hopefully be able to narrow down his search to a few priorities. With c£20m available, it shouldn’t be a problem!

Garry Postecoglou

JTT53
Ange has stated that the Japanese league ends in January.
He has his eye on two or three quality additions from the J League in January. We really are on the right track Jim. 👍🍀💚🇯🇵

jimthetim53

Garry, unlike a busload of huns, I would love to see more players from the J league if Kyogo is anything to go by!

Garry Postecoglou

JTT53
Yes Jim. Me too. Love the Japanese philosophy on life and sport. My kinda humble race of lovely people. 👍🇯🇵

SFTB

Neil Lennon bears more responsibility than Leigh Griffiths for the loss of the Ten last year, though Leigh certainly has culpability over his own professionalism.

But there is absolutely no moral equivalence, no “one’s as bad as the other”, to be tolerated in any mealy mouthed pairing of the two.

Neil Lennon failed to land the Ten and let a lot of things slide last season. His failing is, purely, a football one.

Leigh Griffiths, having wrecked his own football life, having been forgiven for his racist chanting about Rudi Skacel, having been supported through Mental health issues by the club and Neil Lennon, having been offered an assisting hand by Ange Postecoglou and an unwarranted contract extension, based on his promises to the club, still did not manage to make himself relevant in the Celtic team this season AND, much more importantly, compounded his crimes by chasing lassies on social media. I do not wish or need to bring in the under age element to the charge sheet, because that may have been an element of ignorance on Leigh’s behalf, but it was ignorance he could no longer afford to indulge, having been given so may second chances by friends, families, employers and managers.

So, for me, there is only one of this pair that I am asking to be silent and reflect.

Neil Lennon is more than entitled to get another chance and a career in football and I support him on that, even if he has not fully accepted his role in the loss of the 10, and yes there were mitigating (but not exculpatory) factors.

Leigh Griffiths should shut up and focus on playing for Dundee and his future career plans when he finishes with football as it will not be long now.

Leggy

SFTB,

Well said 👏👏👏👏👏

Although Neil Lennon’s excuses for last Season, and blaming everyone but himself, is rather shabby.

Lee should concentrate on banging in the goals, especially against you know who !!!!

HH 🍀🍀🍀

bada bing1

Embdae used a reliable provider of pre travel antigen tests recently? Boots very expensive…..

jimthetim53

bada, never heard of it 🙂 but I put it in ‘search’ and a lot of options came up.

bada bing1

JTT- it’s a minefield mate

CFC

The Lennon and Griffiths show has reached the end of its run.
No longer relevant or of interest to anyone but themselves.
If both fall into obscurity they only have themselves to blame.
Hubris and stupidity are damaging bedfellows.

big packy

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, dont think scotland could even buy a win, never mind next game is at hampden and with the tartan army behind them,?????? you never know,

bada bing1

G Mak is our new No 7….

Paddy’s Maw

Re charges etc.
Does anyone know of any update on the Polish? Guy who was stabbed outside his flat following a game with Sevco last year. It seems strange that I have seen nothing about this in ages!

To have captured three so far is quite poor I would have thought and police Scotland are getting no pats on the back from me!

Nicola sturgeon was quite adamant in her response to Pauline ONeill’s question today that anti Irish and anti Catholic hatred has no place in Scotland – so let’s just see what steps she takes now. I have faith in Pauline O’Neill that she will be holding sturgeon to account over this.

Garry Postecoglou

Paddy’s Maw
Two Racist monsters were arrested and charged for the murder of Kamil Charyszyan in Easterhouse in April. They await a criminal trial.

Mahe

Gday possums!
Happy day of Thor.

We’re still lifting this title folks, it’s on the cards.

Rebus67

IMHO the required rebuild concerns much more than the first team squad, although that is certainly a big part of it. It is also the part that probably concerns most fans because it is easily visible. However, there are two other aspects in the rebuilding process and they are more important in the longer term.

The first of these is the organisational structure of the club. This includes scouting, recruitment, and development. All of these areas need to be serviced by qualified staff. Scouting, currently, can best be described as thin in personnel and breadth of coverage. We need more scouts and a head of scouting with a broader vision than the English, French and Israeli markets. Recruitment is a mystery. Who was doing it in the last window? Was it outsourced or did Dom and Ange take most of it on? Again there needs to be at least a middle management appointment here. The development side is peopled by former players but the academy is crucial to both the wellbeing of the football and financial objectives of the club. WGS has been brought in as a consultant to assess this aspect. Hopefully this will lead to fruitful restructuring of the academy and how it links with progress to the first team.

It is also feasible that a DOF could be appointed under Dom and that the heads of scouting, recruitment and development could report to that position. Alternatively, Dom may want direct reporting to him, at least for now.

Finally, there is the issue of style and shape for the team. We have bought a particular style and shape by recruiting Ange. There is no guarantee that this will be successful. It may have to be revised to fit both the resources of the club and the nature of Scottish football. Currently, we do not have either enough players to implement Ange’s concept, neither do we have the squad depth to sustain it. Ultimately, it may fail and one or two years down the road we may be back to square one.

The last window needs to be judged on the above factors and not just on how many first team recruits we got.

I suggest that the last window revealed that the current structures within the club were inadequate to achieve a fast rebuild of the first team. Too few and too long……describes the recruitment process. Kyogo was the exception. The Greek and CCV were at the other end of the scale.

As to whether the incoming players will help cement Ange Ball, who knows, only time!

Rebus

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PADDYSMAW et al

Fair play to the Record for publishing this piece.

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/racism-prejudice-must-always-called-24880766

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands.

Mahe

Afternoon Sir.

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BIGRAILROADBLUES

Howdy,mucker! That you finally come to after Saturday?

I was lucky-my Mum spoils me. Had me working off the weekend by shifting tons of gravel chips,cutting down trees and painting garden furniture. Amongst other things.

Wouldn’t swap her for the world…

jimthetim53

So, I see the England game is live on TV tonight. I’m not a Nationalist but it’s no wonder Scots get pissed off.

Saltires en Sevilla

Mahe

Yes. A good read and helpful update on transfers buddy.

We have a loooongg way to go tho’

So far we have really only seen a better ‘keeper and that would have been The easiest fix. We have a new motivated, hungry and selfless-top scorer ….and that was the toughest fix.

Bottom and Top of team,hopefully, nailed.

Abada with flashes of absolute brilliance, aye, but is he an upgrade on our Jamesy? … hoping they can both share this slot over 60 games and terrorise teams with pace and creativity

Every other player signed still to prove they can cut it …

from what I’ve seen Starfelt isn’t a confident player at all .. he seems to lacks physicality and looks a bit shell-shocked already. Maybe playing in front of Joe and beside CVV (who is even smaller)…

incidentally, that will count up here.

Big time …

Welsh is 190cm tall…and he knows the fekin score!! I’d look to partner Him with CCV for a few games and let Starfelt catch his breath … at 21 years old Stephen now just needs game time in a settled team and I’d back him to learn quickly.

Turnbull has stepped up a bit and bagged one hat trick … will he ever repeat that feat? Will he do it in the big games that really matter?

Rogic with some wonderful football in his twinkle toes has offered a glimpse of what might come.

Tony Ralston … if he had been a new buy in August …with no baggage … he’d be up at the top of this list!!

Calum, Calum, Calum… how many touches before you release a pass … on Sunday was convinced/thought Kyogo was going to run back and slap him… one run in particular … totally oblivious or too focused on his next touch … aye … sideways.

He was the same last nite for Scotland!! Too MANY Touches Calum .. control and release … ideally do it first time …. if and when you ever receive the correct weight on a pass from your teammates … tell them where you want it and focus on looking up … and forward!!

Having said all of this, he just isn’t going to be the No6 we need, and as so eloquently described by ATOB last night … we need ATOB out there helping our scouts… and not kidding!!!

Absolutely convinced Calum will find a role in the team … but where?!

Did James McCarthy miss pre-season due to injury ? It’s early days but this looks ominous. Of course, we are all dying to see him out there fulflling his dreams … living out our dreams tbh!!

The area directly in front of our back line particularly in the centre of the pitch is just waiting for a guy wearing a hooped jersey to stamp his authority all over it … is he at the club already?

Or do we have to wait until January?

What happened to lads like Robertson and Henderson… Lindsay? I should read more about Development teams but had thought these guys were in the mix already… maybe they have been farmed out. Get them to Cambuslang or Maryhill for a term… that’s worked well in the past.

With all these new faces it’s going to be an interesting changing room until they all gel … a big big task

Conclusion … happier and more positive than May /June

C’mon the Celts!!

Bigrailroadblues

Mick, took a late flight to Dublin and didn’t get back til yesterday. 🇮🇪

Craig 76

For anyone that didn’t see this on Sunday ⬇️⬇️
https://youtu.be/_9aliU7CHTI

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CRAIG76

He’s fought like f… to get where he is,and remembers every hard knock along the way. That will resonate with many of us,and his desire and sheer will to succeed will do for me.

Of course,anyone can talk the talk. I very much doubt he will stop at that.

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BIGRAILROADBLUES

Good place to cure a hangover. Whose wallet did ye nick?

Paddy’s Maw

Garry posticoglou

Re Kamil Charyszyan. Thanks for the update.

MAGUA

Mahe

An enjoyable read, as always.

So that’s 3 Huns nicked out of approx 300. How did the authorities reach this conclusion? Did they have a lucky dip? A collage of photos of the guilty, on the notice board, and the 3 lucky losers get to spend a few nights in the pokey? Sounds about right.

Why are the escorting officers not facing disciplinary charges? They damn well should be.

I’m well pleased by that transfer window, both in terms of those coming in…also pleased by those who left. It’s amazing what can be achieved, when the CEO, is not a Hun-loving fecker.

ASWGL

Best wishes to your mum, for a full recovery.

Hail Hail.

bada bing1

G Mak is our new No 7….
https://youtu.be/BG60dNbuUog

A good mix of goals here…..including headers…

MAGUA

Bada Bing 1

…and penalties. On 2nd thoughts, there ain’t much need for that particular skill-set if you play for the Celts.

Hail Hail.

A thing of beauty

SES,
Thanks for the nod. At this moment in time we need to play Callum at 6 but you are right there are times he needs to release the ball quicker. I noted at least twice last night in the 30 mins or so that I watched where he hesitated to slide in the pass and the man was closed down. It was probably only two more touches but the moment was gone. He would probably say himself he’d like to play in a more forward role but at this time he controls the game for us and I dread to think where we’ll be without him. I love him as a player and feel we are so lucky he’s not banging the door down looking for a move. It truly puzzles me. He’s twice the player Billy Gilmour will ever be yet our media slaver over “the Protestant Pirlo”. Did you know that’s what the Huns call him? They have stickers all over the place down here to let us know. Now I have no idea if he is a Protestant but I am 100% sure he’s no Pirlo. 😂😂

Prestonpans bhoys

Morearse says:

You heard a lot about my departure, that Porto or several teams that made a proposal, but did not reach an agreement with Rangers

Now we know this is a lie because slippy g said no offers have been submitted yet the media print this push. Even more worrying is Morearse believes what he says😵😱

Pitymevin

Evening troops,

I read the other night someone saying if G-mac was that good why wasn’t one of the big teams in for him.

I give you VVD, H Larson, JVH, Pierre VH
all good buys from the Dutch league and far outway the amount of failed signing we have had from the Netherlands.

I can remember one dud in a very long list of players.

Let’s get behind our new signings and give them our support, please don’t turn into Sunderland supporters.

Hail hail

MAGUA

Pitymevin

I’m expecting great things from GMac…you should copyright that btw. 😀

Given that he was playing for one of the smaller teams in the Netherlands, it’s safe to assume that his team were creating less chances, than will be the case at The Celts.

His goal/game ratio last season, was phenomenal.

Hail Hail.

jimthetim53

Packy, you’ve been very quiet tonight. Watching the England game with Joan? God bless ye!