If You Tolerate This…


Football has long been a haven for the nastier side of human behaviour,the type that hides in the shadows and only shows its face when in large groups of like-minded peepil. A large section of the population have been subjected to their outpourings of hatred for well over a century,even as most members of society have learned the error of their ways and agreed to live and let live. 

After all,everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.

Celtic supporters,for example,are vilified because of the type of school they attended-even when many of us attended the standard non-denominational ones. Or because of our Irish heritage-which many of us don’t have. Or for engaging in sexual crimes so horrific that to accuse someone of such a thing without a shred of proof should be an automatic jail sentence. Instead of which,our accusers are given police escorts everywhere they go-even during an official lockdown!-and then permitted to commit acts of violence,vandalism,thuggery and various other criminal deeds.

Including their rather marvellous rendition of The Famine Song within arm’s length of the escorting police officers,a little ditty which is proscribed under European and Scottish law,and officially deemed racist.

As usual,the police responded with mealy-mouthed platitudes which merely pay lip service to the duties they are supposed to perform in order to uphold the law. A few days later,they arrested THREE peepil,out of the hundreds there at the time. Similar to their response to the George Square fiascos in March and May-and 2014,come to that-neither of which have yet seen anyone appear in court.

For once,some of the Scottish media have been upfront in their reporting of events,while others such as the BBC should be taking a bloody good look at themselves as they continue to ignore it. The Daily Record,in particular,has been very proactive on this,publishing the story on Monday and following it up with an article by their columnist Annie Brown which really went for the jugular. You can read it here…

Racism and prejudice must always be called out after ‘famine song’ row – Annie Brown – Daily Record

Comments have been made on the subject in the Scottish Parliament,and the condemnation has been almost universal-though one party in particular has been deafening in its silence on the subject.

Additionally,we have learned that an attempt to ban ornj walks in Dumbarton over a decade ago led to death threats against council members,and that two of the three podcasters from soo’side official media partners have resigned their posts following revelations of past racist tweets. Makes you wonder how long all this information was suppressed,and why,but everyone loves a convert,eh?

Sadly,I suspect that the outcome of all of this handwringing will just be more of the same,simply wait for the furore to die down. Look,for instance,at the outcry a month ago when Millwall fans booed their own players for “taking the knee”. UPROAR-for a day or two,then wrapping the fish suppers after that. And as victims of the racism,we are to blame for not holding the authorities over the fire,demanding that the law of the land is applied equally to all,without fear or favour. But the blame lies first and foremost at the door of those authorities,for they are the ones invested with the power to actually do something about it.

And in that,they have failed for far too long.

They have overtly encouraged the actions of the many who espouse these opinions,sing these songs,spray hate-crime graffiti everywhere you look. Appeasement has never worked-anywhere-and Scotland’s politicians,police and football authorities need to stamp on this cancer immediately,years too late though immediately may be. Otherwise,they can just hand them all a Get Out Of Jail card every time they open their mouths.


Scotland has its own leetle problem with racism,but other countries,their football fans in particular,are more traditional in their intended racist targets. Hungary,and a number of their neighbours,have a long-standing record of appalling racism against visiting black/brown players. On Wednesday it was the turn of the England players to get it in the neck,and the media was predictably in full flow calling for action against the individuals involved and also against the Hungarian FA.

Quite commendable,and absolutely correct. But it soon came to light that Hungary had been told to play its next three home games behind closed doors,after similar transgressions at UEFA 20/21. So why the full house?

Unbelievably,the ban was imposed by UEFA,while Wednesday’s game was held under the auspices of FIFA. So therefore it did not apply.

Bugger me backwards,it’s like the blind leading the blind here. As in Scotland,nothing will ever change unless there is a coordinated action by all the authorities involved,and a clear desire to enforce any sanctions or punishment.

Truly we are fans of The Beautiful Game. But there is at its core a heart of darkness which we have to remove. If that includes prison terms,or even attending police stations for the duration of matches,then so be it. If it means banning clubs or countries from competition,I say go for it. People might be surprised how quickly such events are stopped,as the culprits realise that there is a real risk to them. And the sooner,the better-

“Pour encourager les autres!”


Above article by BMCUWP

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September 4, 2021 12:16 am

Bmcuwp Well said 👏👏👏👏👏

September 4, 2021 12:28 am

Scotland professes to be a modern progressive nation and yet our Government has agreed to allow 38 Orange marches to take place in its largest city in one day 🤔 Its all smoke and mirrors folks

September 4, 2021 12:31 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RAPeMw0BvrI Rodriguez – Crucify Your Mind

September 4, 2021 12:37 am


Rodriguez-the world’s best-kept secret for far too long. Delighted he finally got the recognition he deserved.

Puff puff
September 4, 2021 12:40 am

He had a wonderful looking daughter anaw by the way Bobby.

September 4, 2021 12:43 am


I’ll take your word for it,considering your track record and high standards!

Puff puff
September 4, 2021 12:45 am


September 4, 2021 12:50 am

The ‘best wee bigoted country in the world’ has been kidding itself on for years that it doesn’t have a racist problem. Keep calling it out 😎

September 4, 2021 12:54 am

Any guesses where the KKK originated from 🤔 The clue is in the Confedarate flag 😉

Puff puff
September 4, 2021 12:55 am

Watching Real Betis v Madrid last weeks game..
What a wonderful stadium.

September 4, 2021 12:59 am


It was the 90th anniversary of John Thomson’s death yesterday. IIRC,he trailed in at half time one day,and complained that the opposition fans had been calling him a fenian bastard all game.

One of his colleagues told him not to worry about it-he himself got called that all the time.

To which John replied-Aye,but you ARE one!!!

As we know,this is not a recent thing. That they have become so inyerface about it probably is.

Puff puff
September 4, 2021 1:01 am

Gordon64. the huns are a club with no empathy.

September 4, 2021 1:12 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=M3BZ8hnLyRc The Killers – Dustland (Official Music Video) ft. Bruce Springsteen

Craig 76
September 4, 2021 1:14 am

For Puff Puff

Northern Soul Thats My Girl Dee Clark / Rod Driscoll

Craig 76
September 4, 2021 1:16 am

John Thomson Tribute with lyrics / Rebel Lyrics

September 4, 2021 1:18 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=u1xrNaTO1bI Depeche Mode – Personal Jesus 😎

Puff puff
September 4, 2021 1:21 am

Craig76 fantastic man .


September 4, 2021 1:26 am

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWijx_AgPiA Creedence Clearwater Revival – Fortunate Son

Squire Danaher
September 4, 2021 2:03 am

BMCUW September 4, 2021 12:59 am

I’m sorry.

But Celtic FC need to share some blame here.

The word I have been using all week after TheyBasterts’ antics on Sunday is


The chance was there in 2012 to finish them.

Desmond and Lawwell decided The Blue Pound was important enough to warrant turning a blind eye to Hun jiggerypokery. The Huns’ idiocy made life easy for the first 4 years before B Rodgers was summoned to exact revenge for The Great Desmondo.

Certainly Desmond has no fear of being exposed to their current brazenness.

But so as they sowed, we have reaped.

I will never forgive them.

September 4, 2021 7:26 am

We should have put them out of their misery, Lawwell and co have a lot to answer for. I brought my children up to not hate anyone but it’s bloody hard not hating Neanderthal racists. The BBC in Scotland are a disgrace.

September 4, 2021 7:47 am


Great article Bobby, thank you

Garry Postecoglou
September 4, 2021 8:07 am

Great article BMCUW.
My MP for Clydebank Martin Docherty, born in Clydebank to Irish parents, has faced the wrath of the mob for a decade now. His anti orange walk and anti hate crime rhetoric, has seen him face death threats.
This was ramped up in recent years, when Martin and his boyfriend were married.

September 4, 2021 8:32 am


Haha,that must have really messed with their heads!!!

September 4, 2021 8:34 am


Yes,I entirely agree. Their part in the rise in such criminality will never be forgotten or forgiven.

September 4, 2021 9:45 am

Good morning all,

Great article again, with 38 marches in one day in one city. Does anyone really think change is coming.

Until this very simple first step is taken. No marches of any type ( except the majorettes) nothing will change.

WTF are people marching around celebrating a battle over 330 years ago and still being accommodated.

An absolute joke of a country.

September 4, 2021 9:54 am


38 marches in one day is just ridiculous. Ripping the pish,in fact.

When I was still living in Kilwinning,I used to wind up my mates who were either off to Belfast for a week in July,or a long weekend in Glasgow. I told them I was gonna break into all their empty houses!

“It won’t be empty!”

“It will be by the time you get back!!!”

Not that such fiendish and antisocial behaviour is to be encouraged…

September 4, 2021 10:23 am

Morning Bobby, I used to work with some of ra people. I would class them as acquaintance, but I never socialised with them.

But I was civil with them and this was reciprocated.

My boss was high up in the order and to be fair he would always allow me time off with full pay to go to Europe to watch the hoops, just as long as he got a bottle from the duty free. No a bad guy.

Saltires en Sevilla
September 4, 2021 10:28 am

Great stuff Bobby

I see Graham Spiers has popped up again with a good take on the ‘challenges’ facing Sevco and journalists.

He nails liquidation in 2012.

No film flam…or false equivalence. He then goes on to propose/suggest solutions

Where are the other self-styled ‘alternative’ journalists (sports and news/features) , who all know the story and haven’t spoken out yet?

This is a new phase, in the sense that a club has embraced overt exponents of racism, we have images of their supporters on public streets… police seemingly facilitating, and to date can only find half a dozen breaking the law!!

This is fascism on the march … no matter what anyone thinks about Right Wing politics, this mob are openly defying the law of the land. It must be dealt with, soon.

The dangers are obvious to anyone with even the most basic grasp of history. Mob rule – too many to handle…time after time and now openly emboldened.

The Independent ( London) is all over Hungarian story, and partly, wider issues… no mention of Sevco .. but they are clearly an English based paper.

Mebbe these intrepid scoopsters have saved it for the Sundays…, aye!


… why not just do your fucking job guys, or move aside!!

Cosy Corner Bhoy
September 4, 2021 11:25 am

‘ When I were lhad ‘ the Saltcoats Celtic Supporters, my Dad was the President for some years😀, always detoured to the grave of John Thomson as did many other supporters clubs.
It was the late 40s and early 50s and I think it’s was when playing East Fife believe it or not!
Who could forget Charlie ‘Cannonball’ Fleming or Willie Laird!
Unless it was before your time😃😃

September 4, 2021 12:07 pm


Planning an article for this international window which you might find interesting. Basically about the ten years or so up to Hampden In The Sun.

There’s a reason for it,of course. Prompted by a seemingly unrelated article in The Guardian a week ago.

Hope it stirs a few memories for you-even if not many of them from that period would be fond ones!

September 4, 2021 12:33 pm


Have you a link to the Spiers article,please?

September 4, 2021 12:34 pm


Not much of a choice about socialising with Rangers fans when you live in Kilwinning!

September 4, 2021 12:36 pm


JJ doesn’t miss them. I don’t understand why he has such a bad rep,given his input over the years.

Admittedly some of his non-football stuff might explain that…

Prestonpans bhoys
September 4, 2021 12:37 pm

Daughter on the Glesga train for the Scotland game tells me the Police are taking drink off folk. Did they do that last week for Huns game I asked.
Anyway didn’t affect her as her voddy & coke was in a flask. It’s the way you bring them up👍👏👏🍺🍸⚽

Saltires en Sevilla
September 4, 2021 1:06 pm


it was a PM

You have email now!

September 4, 2021 2:21 pm

https://iftwc.com/story-of-mohammed-salim/ The untold story of Mohammed Salim, the first Indian footballer to play for a European club

Cosy Corner Bhoy
September 4, 2021 2:23 pm

Prestonpans Bhoy: Beenan offence to partake of alcohol on the trains since early lockdown!
Told a group of young ladies that on way to Hoot last Saturday
Never even saw ticket man

Sol Kitts
September 4, 2021 2:30 pm

Frankie nails the orange walks 😂😂😎

September 4, 2021 2:32 pm

Afternoon all, hope everyone is well.

BMCWP, excellent leader today, the issue of racism has indeed gone on for far too long.
What gives some hope is the fact that it is being voiced in Hollyrood,and as you mentioned there is a certain group of MSPs whose silence is deafening.
The genie is out the bottle and for those who don’t like what they are hearing, the genie will not be returning from whence it came.


September 4, 2021 2:34 pm

https://www.theirishvoice.com/comment/if-you-know-your-history-dont-re-write-it/ “I don’t accept that Irish Republicanism is in Celtic’s history, anywhere in Celtic’s history… I don’t recognise Celtic being associated with Irish Republicanism.”
Peter Lawwell, Celtic FC Chief Executive

September 4, 2021 2:52 pm

‘The Scottish elite would like us to believe that anti Irish Catholic racism was just a problem for working class Protestants. But the truth is that throughout its history it has been as much in evidence in Edinburgh’s gentlemen’s clubs and the top golf clubs as in the slums’.

September 4, 2021 4:02 pm


Thanks for posting the ‘Irish Voice’ article. One of the Celtic committee members mentioned in the article, Willie Mckillop, was Nationalist Party MP for South Armagh from 1908 till his death in 1909. I knew the guy’s name rang a bell, so I got that info from Wiki. Mr McKillop, was an Ayrshire born, Glasgow businessman, who was a leading light in many Irish political groups of the time.

Squire Danaher

…and yet there are still some Celts who defend Peter Lawwell. No Celtic supporter, in the position he was in 2012, would have acted as he did. The man is a liar, traitor, coward and collaborator. His legacy will not be fondly remembered.


The major problem in dealing with these parades/marches, is that many in the Scottish Establishment, hold the self same anti-Irish and anti-Catholic views. I’m talking here about leading Politicians, Police Officers, and members of the Judiciary. Until such a time as they are called out, they will continue to allow the lower-orders to behave as they wish.

Y’know how many politicians and Journos, cannot condemn the Huns, without mentioning Catholic Schools? Well here’s a wee question I have asked various politicians at Election times. Sure, it’s the only time you see the bastards. The conversation usually goes something like this:

Me: ” I believe that you condemn the existence of Catholic schools”.

Politician: “I most certainly do”

Me: “Do you send your children to a private school”

If the answer is yes, I follow up with:

“So you DO agree with separation of children from an early age?”.

At this stage they either turn into stuttering imbeciles, or double-down on their bitter views. Give it a go sometime. I love making one of our Imperial masters squirm.

Hail Hail.

Billy Bhoy
September 4, 2021 4:29 pm

Great article Bobby.

I was absolutely sickened by the behaviour of the HUNgarians to the extent that I actually cheered England’s last two goals. The most unbelievable aspect for me was the volume of the racist abuse. This was no minority and yet close ups of the crowd suggested it was largely families that were in attendance – making it even more shocking.

Just had a wee nosey on FF to see the reaction to the Media’s response to their latest racist behaviour. Wow! – it looks like they’re tooling up for a scorched earth policy taking on the Media, the Police and our Parliament! The hounds are being released and they’re going to hound everyone who’s ever typed “hun” in a tweet.

This is going to get very messy indeed!

September 4, 2021 5:23 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvNoiWQEy9Y THE IMMIGRANTS by Boolavogue

September 4, 2021 5:47 pm

‘Could it be that Rangers players avoided the front in WWI by taking jobs in shipyards and were described by critics as being no better than the ‘huns’ (Germans)?

Or perhaps after Harland & Wolff (co-founded by German Gustav Wolff) acquired a shipyard in Govan in 1912, Catholics were discouraged from working there? Then, with the onset of WWI, the term was used to describe the Govan-based, Rangers-supporting workers at the part-German owned firm.

It might be because Rangers fans are proud of their British identity, and with the Queen descendent from the German House of Wettin, her Rangers-supporting subjects are called ‘huns’ by the largely Catholic fans of Celtic, a club with strong Irish links.’

‘Another popular theory is that the term was used by an English newspaper to compare Rangers fans to “marauding huns” — the nomadic, devastating military force infamously led by Attila in the fifth century — when they ran amok while in town for a match.’

September 4, 2021 6:11 pm

noun [ as form of address ] informal (also hon)
UK/hʌn/ US/hʌn/

short form of honey: a way of speaking to someone you like or love, or someone who you want to be friendly to:
You OK, hun? 😜

September 4, 2021 6:23 pm


My own understanding of the origins of the word ‘Hun’, as it’s used by Tims, came from an article in The Daily Mail in the early 1920s. The Rangers(Original), had visited a town in Northern England, and-their supporters-as is their wont-laid waste to said town, prompting the description of ‘marauding Huns’. Now that is what I was told, by various relatives. It makes sense, as this would have occurred, shortly after The Great War.

Why can’t the Huns just accept the terms with good grace…in the same way that we accept the label ‘Tims’.

If anyone using the term, can now be labelled a sectarian bigot, then the BBC, should be prosecuted, for showing repeats of ‘Dad’s Army’. Captain Manwairing was very fond of the term.

Hail Hail.


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