That’s the buzzword, that’s the go to line, that Dominic was incompatible.
It’s notable that only one of the parties briefed against the other, the party with scruples enough to say no. The very fact he was briefed against off the record tells us all we need to know about this sorry saga.
This was no amicable parting of the ways, he walked before being pushed.
It also tells us the board are devious, for no true Celt who felt his actions were correct would ever need to dish out tittle tattle, an act unbecoming of our clubs custodians.
They are trying to control the narrative, trying the key word.
He was the great (green and) white hope, a fresh broom soo badly needed to clear the Augean stables.
‘I’m a people person and I just can’t wait to have you all standing beside me so I can shake your hand and have a chat’ he warmly informed a Zoom meeting with a sincere smile.
Getting up close and personal to the camera, brimming with enthusiasm, it truly did feel that a corner had been turned, and on the back of that premise the season tickets sold like never before.
He had charisma, jest, and no idea of what he was getting into.
And now he’s gone.
The last transfer window was always going to be huge as we needed a rebuild, and Dom delivered perhaps later than we all would have wished but twelve recruits were found. Even a cursory glance shows how much we veered away from the previous transfer strategy,,we currently have four keepers on the books just to give Ange a man he trusts, whereas before the incumbent would be ordered to make do with whats on hand at any given time.
We bought ready made players, a rarity for this club.
And we saw the manager make several public pleas for fresh recruits, something we arent accustomed to, something the board didnt like one bit insisting he answer to Dominic and not the other way around.
That control of the football department has been a key feature of Dermots reign, looks like it has been deemed an essential strategy. Manager after manager has been cut down to size, forced to do things the boards way and at their pace.
From Martin being placed in the slow lane, Ronnie brought as number two then promoted to top spot, Brendan having crap players foisted upon him, and now one half of the double act threatening to rip up Scottish football is badgered out the door,,there’s a familiar pattern emerges.
They wish to control the tempo, be the organ grinder rather than the monkey, and will take active steps to make it so, even steps unbecoming to impose their business model.
We all know it.
As Maggie Mc Gill so often succinctly put it,,
1, Gies yer season book money
2, What are the Huns doin?
3, EPL fodder
4, Europe if you’re lucky.
Thats the sum of our model, that’s how far Dermot ‘allows’ us to grow. Its mediocrity, the slow lane, and means well shall never again attempt to become a force to be reckoned with throughout Europe and further.
Under that model crowds sometimes dwindle, a rabbit is pulled out of the hat to reignite supporter interest, the rabbit is sacrificed, and the needle returns to the start of the song and we all sing along like before.
After twenty years the plan is to tread water.
Tens of millions in wages and dividends paid out for what, to stagnate.
So now we all know there’s little change in sight. Some faces may be replaced, but ultimately that’s the instructions from on high and they will cost your job if not obeyed. It’s not a new man we seek, it’s a yes man and more than likely not a young upstart ever again.
Change is unwelcome and unwanted and the next puppet shall have already known that since Dominics bombshell hit the press.
The directors aren’t going anywhere until they wish to, regardless of how they are perceived. The boss’s protection is enough.
The upcoming AGM shall be hosted by a chairman supposedly on the way out (presumably because hes gotta actually retire one day) and a temporary CEO, two great deflector shields against supporter angst, where talk of change and appointments shall be pushed back until next summer. Once again, instead of being prepared for the upcoming campaign, the club shall undergo a behind the scenes rebuild while adhering to Dermots green half of the OLd Firm business model.
And separately from all this, there’s a Greek Australian with the hopes and dreams of millions upon his shoulders just trying to do the best he can, with zero internal protection if anything contempt for his perceived outbursts, but still expected to win every league and cup game comfortably and in style, plus embarrassments in Europe won’t be tolerated.
Anyone expect him to stay long term now? What about when they sell a star in January, and you better believe they will. Think he will accept that?
He’s probably the loneliest person in Glasgow right now. He certainly has my sympathies for what it’s worth.
Our beloved club is locked into undeserving clutches with little hope on the horizon, but plenty more tugging at your heartstrings while supporter upset and disgust leads to more and more infighting. All while getting 56 rubbed in your face as you watch a national landmark get trashed, again. Whilst a lesser and lesser quality of manager gets sold down the river.
That’s the immediate future folks. That’s where Dermots club is going.
There’s never been a better time to start tackling this PLC and trying to force change upon the club. No more evidence is needed, they aren’t for changing and they aren’t for departing.
We know where their path leads, and it’s not what the supporters wish for the club.
If there’s anything incompatible about the club, it’s Dermots vision for the club and the supporters’ vision for the club.
‘Just enough’ is not good enough !
Never strengthening while ahead to help the Old Firm is a disgusting practice.
Standing still should never be an option for a club that was once groundbreaking.
We want a club to be proud of, for Glasgow Celtic to thrive.
They just want its supporters to exploit.
Next May is a long time away. Next May every trick in the book gets pulled out, from waiting list to hard deadline, from signing a cracker to new man promising the world. We’ve seen and heard it all before. And by now we are very bloody well aware of where it leads,, to exactly this.
The boardroom controlling the football department, handing the incumbents scraps, issuing meaningless soundbites while counting the season book money considering the job done for another year.
The cycle needs broken, if not for self esteem and dignity, then for the love of Glasgow Celtic itself who doesn’t deserve such charlatans at the helm, but does deserve our help getting rid of them.
Our club needs help, and like any true Celtic man or woman you will answer the call.
Your wallet and your willpower are your two primary weapons in this quest, our own ugly Game of Thrones. Your wallet in conjunction with thousands of others holds a lot of bargaining power, and while the choice to buy season books once again has been easy up to this point, that’s no longer the case, not one bit.
In May or thereabouts, you are simply expected to open your wallet and continue this cycle, and your heartstrings shall be tugged in order to make it easier to make that choice.
But not anymore. Your love of the club can no longer allow it.
Their time is up, and our time is here.
We can’t fund this anymore, and must band together with the aim of righting the good ship Celtica before she’s left floundered at sea.
Having witnessed the self serving viciously reject change, digging their claws in deeper, what choice do we have?

By Mahe

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Mike in Toronto
September 13, 2021 3:21 am

So, Dom wasn’t prepared to continue the lie. Fair play to the guy. I wasn’t sure about him, but it seems he has something that is otherwise missing in Celtic (integrity).

No point complaining about DD…. he isn’t the problem. to be fair, he told us back in 2012 what his plan was (even if some of us didn’t quite believe him)… but within a year or two, it was clear that Celtic had agreed to be the lesser partner of the Old Firm. And we knew that, even while we were winning tainted titles, the groundwork was being laid off the pitch to ensure that Rangers returned to their rightful place at the top of Scottish football….

And 99% of Celtic fans went along with this… Over the years, I have come to believe that there is something in the Celtic gene that makes them prefer to be cheated so they can complain, than do something to fix the problem. And to be honest, all it would have taken was a token effort (a walk out at one game, for example) to draw media attention to the corruption in the Scottish game. But people who know they are being cheated will say ‘I will never ever stop going’, and if they know not paying is the only way to effect change, that tells me that, deep down, they dont really want change.

As I said, DD isn’t the problem. Celtic fans who pay to be cheated, and then complain about being cheated, are like drug addicts who buy crack, and then complain that the police aren’t cracking down on drug dealers. If your want the drugs out of your neighbourhood, the first thing you have to do is stop buying them!

And, sorry to say this, but blogs like this (CQN is another example; it started off honourably, but became the Board’s PR department) aren’t part of the solution (they could have been, but they aren’t).

Complaining on blogs, while continuing to fund bigotry, is not a positive activity, or even a neutral activity … in fact, it makes the problem worse, as it allows the victims of bigotry to feel like they are doing something, when in fact, they are doing exactly what the SFA, Celtic and Rangers want them to do. As Noam once said, “The smart way to keep people passive and obedient is to strictly limit the spectrum of acceptable opinion, but allow very lively debate within that spectrum—even encourage the more critical and dissident views. That gives people the sense that there’s free thinking going on, while all the time the presuppositions of the system are being reinforced by the limits put on the range of the debate.”So, the Board is thrilled to have people complaining about being cheated by the masons, so long as you are renewing your season ticket. Hell, they are even happy to have you complain about the Board (so long as you renew) because they would rather you complain on a blog than actually do something to fix the problem.

If you want to change something, forget blogging or shareholding (will take forever, and if you ever got to the point that you could impact decisions, they would issues more shares to dilute your impact)… dont give them your money. Or if you have already done that, encourage everyone to walk out at the same time. If you can get enough people, it will shine the media spot light on the corruption at Celtic and in Scottish football.

September 13, 2021 6:15 am

Good to see MIT back posting,I have not had time to be on or read much of the blog this last few weeks, but I must say I am glad I did not rejoin the CTV after quitting in disgust last October. It was cruel on Neil Lennon and a slap on the face to the fans to not have made a move to change things up.I don’t know what happened to Dom ,but an up and coming young executive who has been successful does not come in with his eyes shut, I can only speculate he had a vision and ideas that don’t align with the old guard and there was only one way to go and that was get the hell out of Dodge. I don’t think Ange will put up with any malarkey so they will probably be giving him a wide berth, now is his time to to bring in his own team, they don’t have the balls to make another departure announcement so soon after DOMS

Big Audio Dynamite
September 13, 2021 7:07 am

Ffs, Dom helped quell the rebellion(Remember!?) and sell the SBs …again!

When did we become so gullible?

Big Audio Dynamite
September 13, 2021 7:08 am

Started putting in the foundations of OUR new hotel? What?

Was that just another squirrel to sell SBs?

Big Audio Dynamite
September 13, 2021 7:16 am

Have they caught the crazy bombers/arsonists/urban terrorists, who have chosen Scottish football as their playground, yet?

I definitely thought the guy who could limbo dance under a Lamborghini, would have been easy to identify, no?

What’s the term for a load of squirrels?

September 13, 2021 8:04 am

M I T.
“shine the media spot light on the corruption at Celtic and in Scottish football.”

This is a rather hopeful conclusion, which media outlets would these be?
None in Scotland obviously- they see no evil, and who beyond the boundaries of this insignificant football backwater gives a care?

It would be seen, if noticed at all, as a little local difficulty.

Your premise that boycott actions would resonate elsewhere and engender a forensic investigation into corrupt practices here is pretty naive, sad as it is to say.

big packy
September 13, 2021 8:28 am

MORNING ALL and JIM. MAHE great post, another rallying call, unfortunately it would need all the supporters groups here and worldwide, plus the season ticket holders to stand together, just cant see that happening sadly, but we live in hope. nice to see MIT posting ,mike if your lurking dont be a stranger,H.H.

Jobo Baldie
September 13, 2021 8:34 am
Jobo Baldie
September 13, 2021 8:35 am

Oops, thought the picture would come up, apologies. Nothing ever happens……

September 13, 2021 9:16 am

Morning all and especially you MikeInTVLawyerland, great t see you back on, I hope you’re well! Whilst your summary of the situation is fairly well reported the problem IS Dermot Desmond! The problem has been created by his desires for Celtic and TRFC to advance to whatever project gets him out of Scotland and into a bigger cash generating pool than we currently reside.
You may also be right with your gene pool theory, I touched on this in a post a couple of years ago about the subservient mindset of the Irish Catholic in the West of Scotland and how hard it has been to rid ourselves of it. The WATP mentality that persists is the antonym that our neighbours also struggle to shrug off – this is the Cultural battle faced every day by people in our Great Wee Country. But the problem isn’t the Celtic supporters, that’s an easy, disingenuous argument that is too quickly applied to supporters who wish to maintain a lifelong link with a wider community that has deep cultural and historical roots, much of it due to the WATP mentality a lot of the support and their forebears have suffered and witnessed. The problem IS Dermot Desmond as he has facilitated the ressurrection of TRFC with the aid of our own football authorities. The problem absolutely is Dermot Desmond, he controls every aspect of the Club that we stupidly thought Peter Lawell was controlling! I think, too, that you, and me along with many others have overestimated the strength of feeling and knowledge of a lot of the Celtic support in relation to the deeds and misdeeds of Celtic/TRFC/SFA/SPFL in the last 10 or 15 years. There is still an incredible amount of ignorance out there so despite your assertion that blogs like this could have been part of the solution at least they still are, like your comment and no doubt many others over the day, drawing attention to the failures of the Club and others over the years.
Anyhoo, it’s great to see you back on but must get to work! Catch up soon for a skelp on my bare legs, nae doot!! 😉

September 13, 2021 9:29 am

Straying into the deflection of sociocultural anthropology , interesting as it is, won’t stop folk attending football matches and buying into their traditional fix.

DD is obviously the fundament round which his loyal ( faithful is too good a description ) lackeys circulate.

I suspect the only action available is to cash starve the business, the cost of which is catastrophic in the short term, with the length of term of recovery too much for the support to stomach.
That’s the “Jeopardy” dilemma.

September 13, 2021 10:11 am

Excellent lead Mahe!

Squire Danaher
September 13, 2021 10:30 am


Excellent article. The only feasible weapon the average supporter has – and the only thing our custodians understand – is our withdrawal of custom.

Too many see Celtic as their excuse for a day out; see their pals; have a drink. The idea of doing any of these in other circumstances seems lost on some.


“I think, too, that you, and me along with many others have overestimated the strength of feeling and knowledge of a lot of the Celtic support in relation to the deeds and misdeeds of Celtic/TRFC/SFA/SPFL in the last 10 or 15 years.”


I completely agree. I may have said before that my former 405 neighbour pummelled me into submission one day regarding Hun cheating.

His argument was that it didn’t matter if they had signed Messi and Ronaldo on EBTs, they were the Huns and we still just had to beat them. Comparison with financial doping – athletics/drug doping was dismissed as irrelevant.

You can’t reason with that kind of thinking. It ties up with the ‘we’re only happy (or don’t even care) when we’re being cheated’ mentality.

I’m comfortable with having binned one of the best seats in the house because I was no longer prepared to fund this WWF nonsense.

September 13, 2021 10:45 am

Ange’s interview before the RC game leaves me very concerned as to his future. Its clear Dom was an effective buffer between Ange’s priorities and the Bean Counters…. He facilitated a decent window under the circumstances. Its clear to me that Ange will not hang around for any board that doesn’t match his drive and ambition. Clufter Suck !

“What I’ve never done over the course of my whole career is do what other people suggest. I’ll always do what I feel is the best for the situation.

“We’ve come through a really hectic period where I felt getting our squad together was the number one priority. Now I get the chance to build a structure around it.

“If I feel changes need to be made, I will make them, but at no stage has the board, or anyone else at the club, got in the way of me doing anything.”

St tams
September 13, 2021 11:39 am

Excellent article Mahe.

I hate to say this. But I think Ange will be off by before the end of the year.

September 13, 2021 11:43 am

H.H. Mahe great article,
B,A,D. A Scurry of squirrels is what you are looking for JG.

Squire Danaher
September 13, 2021 11:58 am

St tams
Excellent article Mahe.

I hate to say this. But I think Ange will be off by before the end of the year.

September 13, 2021 11:39 am

I don’t think he’ll be gone that quick.

But he certainly won’t be here this time next year.

This is his chance to work in Europe, he’s got off to an impressive start; if we mess him about he won’t be short of job offers if he tells us to ram it.

He won’t put up with two transfer windows being messed about by these characters.

September 13, 2021 12:38 pm

Brilliant article, Mahe.

Here’s the thing, though. Say for instance, DD does sell his shares because he wants out. What’s the betting that he would sell his shares to Lindsell Train…that would make an investment company, the largest shareholder in Celtic FC. In that case, we would be truly Donald Ducked.


Nice to see you back on. In taking any action against the board, it is important that division and conflict within the support, is avoided at all costs. A walk out may cause conflict within the ground. Much better, would be a one match Boycott. Now this does not have to be a complete boycott. If the attendance was down, by say 20 or 30,000, then that would show the PLC charlatans what the support think of them. If this action is taken, there should be no pickets or protests, against those who wish to attend. Those who wish to attend, should be able to do so, in complete safety.

A couple of points about what I have said above.

1. It is easy enough for me to advocate a one match Boycott…I no longer have a ST. If the above comes to pass, each individual then has a choice of attending or not. There is no right or wrong here.

2. I am in no way defending DD here. If I was to post what I really think of him, I would be banned for life from the blog.😀

At one time, the small shareholders collectively owned 40% of the club. Then came that 2nd damn share issue in 96 or thereabouts. Our shareholdings were diluted by a factor of 10. That is the point in time, that has led to the situation we now find ourselves in.

Hail Hail.

September 13, 2021 12:41 pm

Good afternoon all.

September 13, 2021 12:42 pm

An absolute hatchet piece on CQN. Hinting about errors of judgement ….. a most cowardly piece of prose.

September 13, 2021 12:47 pm

Afternoon all,

Excellent article Mahe 👏👏👏

I’ve got to agree with St tams, I fear Ange may now feel isolated and without Dom, might think, f..k this for a game of soldiers and fly the nest.
Hope not but only time will tell.

Anyway, a big game lurks on Thursday and hope for a better performance than Saturday, which for me,was very flat !!!!!!


Great track earlier Jobo. One of my favourites 👍👍👍

September 13, 2021 1:45 pm


I agree re the CQN leader. It is an attempt to dictate the narrative. Namely, that the job was too big for Dom.

Your use of “cowardly” could not be bettered.

You will note that no specifics are supplied, just insinuations. It will feed the MSMedia a line.

It is important that Dom’s character is not damaged by all of this. Especially if he is muted by a ND agreement.

I suspect the club will continue to shoot itself in the foot by not making clear at the beginning what the issues were. If there was disagreement over the way forward just say so upfront. Now it will be negative drip, drip messaging to the detriment of the club.


September 13, 2021 1:52 pm

I was at the boycott match, just before the “ Rebels have won”, statement. It was a confusing time, a confusing decision. I’m not advocating either decision. But looking back… Ach I wish I had made more of a protest. I don’t think scrutiny of our club is a bad thing.Christ, I’ve certainly condemned ibrox folks for their lack of scrutiny. But are we now so naive, so powerless, helpless, gullible?
I’m a follower of Tsfm. I listen and respect Auldheid. And many who contribute there. But there’s something fundamentally wrong in Scottish football.
And unfortunately we seem to be party to this. This: the biggest sporting scandal in … Ach name me a bigger one!!

September 13, 2021 1:56 pm

Afternoon all & Packy.

Mahe, a very good article once again but sad. Not your fault.
It was more typical of the attitudes in the past few years, which we thought we were moving away from. But sadly we are back to normal – at least off pitch so far.

How Desmond & his loyal/ist buddies can sleep at night I don’t know!

Saltires en Sevilla
September 13, 2021 1:59 pm


I feel your pain buddy.

There is only one solution to rid us of these damned rogues.

Where I disagree is on Dom. From the outset he didn’t strike me as the type of guy who would stand up and resist or be able to make any major changes

Anyone who claims to be a People Person is usually the exact opposite

That’s just for starters on the guy …

Saltires en Sevilla
September 13, 2021 2:58 pm


Good to see you are still in the land of the living buddy.

There is no doubt the fans are being taken for a run and regularly duped (it’s not easy avoiding that, as recently I relented & bought 2 live tv briefs … when in Rome etc.)

Despite myself

I agree with McCaff – Desmond is the problem here – doing what billionaires do – he’s sitting at the table with the biggest wedge .., just waiting on his anticipated payday to a major league.., knowing we are all addicted to Celtic and unlikely to call his bluff

He knows the only way to get him out is to completely starve the club of cash for as long as it takes him to give up and sell ( but to whom?!!! .. another bloody risk )

Unfortunately, everyone knows he can and likely will sit there and watch us tumble … he can cut the costs to match a crowd of 30,000 or even less

We wouldn’t win much

Maybe Allow Sevco to win 9!

just because he can

Mike in Toronto
September 13, 2021 3:27 pm

Hello everyone, I hope this finds all well.

well, damn… got so exercised about the Dom fiasco that I broke my promise not to post anymore (although I still lurk)…

A few brief replies then I will, once again, sink back into the ether …

I dont think we can pawn it off on the lack of friendly media.

DD has enough pull that he could get friendly media, if not in Scotland, then in Ireland. So, why hasn’t there been media coverage? Because nobody wants it. Celtic are in bed with the zombies, and turkeys dont vote for thanksgiving.

Secondly, it seems clear that Celtic are, to some degree at least, complicit in the cheating (even if in the cover up). So, the fans cannot count on the club to do the right thing, any more than they can rely upon the zombies to do the right thing. As I saiid, turkeys dont vote for thanksgiving.

The zombie fans have to know that they were cheating, but were/are happy to ignore the cheating so long as they kept the OF alive. Not seeing much difference on the green side of the city. Outside of a handful, most seem happy to go along with the old rivalry (even if most will not admit it, actions speak louder than words).

But, the activities across the river should be a salutary less for Celtic fans. The zombies know that SDM was cheating, but they overlook that. Now, they blame all their problems on subsequent regimes. But, their present incumbent is no better; absent the EBT’s, he is following the same practices as his predecessors: taking fans money, and living close to the edge (and praying that they make money from the CL, otherwise their debts are not sustainable).

But the point is, it was a corrupt regime, and the only purchasers that would touch that sort of shit show were similarly minded. So, the downward spiral continues. CFC is not being properly run (may be in the black, but with 62,000 turning up every week, it would be hard not to), but it is not being run properly (or perhaps even honestly). So, like the zombies, even if we get rid of DD (like they got rid of SDM), what honest purchaser is going to buy into a Punch and Judy scam?

Unless the fans show they are serious about effecting change – real substantive change – any change at Celtic will be akin to the Zombies moving from SDM to DK.

Celtic fans cannot count on the league or Celtic to effect change. If Celtic fans want change, they will have to start the process, and drag, firstly the Club along, and then have the Club drag the league along.

And the way the fans can do that is with their feet and their wallets. We cant continue to drive by the accident and fail to stop ‘because its not my responsibility’.

Is it Fair that this responsibility falls on Celtic fans? No. Will it be Easy? Also No. But it can be done, and it is the only way things are going to change. And if Celtic fans are in fact the good guys, they have to start acting like it.

That’s all from me … now back to the ether ….

Stay safe.

Mike in Toronto
September 13, 2021 3:27 pm

okay … so not so brief reply …

be well.

September 13, 2021 3:53 pm

Mike, always a pleasure to have you on. I could read your musings all day.
Dont be a stranger
Hail Hail

Mike in Toronto
September 13, 2021 4:15 pm


Cheers pal.

You wouldn’t believe me if I told you how much I miss chatting with everyone on here (whether we agree on things or not)…. but I still read, and still always enjoy the music (hell, I even miss Big Packy! how you and Joan keeping pal?)… so keep posting the tunes!

For me, the problems are not that big ,that things cant improve…

how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time…

Auldheid has done a more than admirable job of nipping at their heels for as long as he has … he just needs a few more to take a bite or two to really get the ball rolling…

Bada Bing
September 13, 2021 4:19 pm

Embdae on here travelled from Scotland to Portugal recently?

September 13, 2021 4:20 pm

This might be interesting – have not listened yet.

big packy
September 13, 2021 4:22 pm

MIKE, i miss you more, another true story,hope you and seamus are well, keep posting buddy👍

September 13, 2021 4:32 pm

Interesting header Mahe, the trouble is the only ones who can change the narrative are the ones who still pay to watch the pantomime. Like many others I no longer give them any of my hard earned.

Mahe I don’t think what you are after is insurmountable, a blind man running for a bus would have noticed a quite empty Celtic park on Saturday.

I believe the Celtic PR guys have been telling porkies about ST’s being sold out in record time.

Nice to see you MIT.


September 13, 2021 4:34 pm

8 lives left 😺🙈
caro (@carolinaaley) Tweeted: just when i was starting to lose faith in humanity 🥲

September 13, 2021 4:39 pm

I’m guessing a fare few would of been at TRNSMT on Saturday

September 13, 2021 4:42 pm

Listening to David Low can SC take some credit for what is being discussed?

September 13, 2021 4:44 pm


I’d add lack of probity and until that changes the negative consequences will continue.

big packy
September 13, 2021 4:54 pm

AULDHEID, until the whole celtic board quit en masse, nothing will change, lets get the bassas flung down london rd or kerrydale street whatever you prefer,,we live in hope,H.H.

September 13, 2021 4:59 pm


It is nice to see you posting. I hope you are well. I fully understand your decision to not post on here and I also understand why you are drawn back in. Chatting is good for the soul. However, I think that it is time for me to give the blog a rest for a while. Before I go, let me attempt to dispel my ignorance by picking your brains.

My issue is, as always, Celtic being complicit in the cheating. By cheating do you mean the activities of Rangers/Sevco and not activities of Celtic directly? Secondly, what is the evidence for Celtic agreeing to being the junior partner in the Old Firm model? Thirdly, why is the existence of a Sevco essential to the financial wellbeing of Celtic? If we sell out our home games, we get the same per game revenue whether we play RC or Sevco. Fourthly, is the old firm model essentially unsound? Suppose Aberdeen or Hibs were the other partner, is the model still flawed? On a non economic argument, I can see the existence of a close rival can increase the quality of both teams so having a rival is not intrinsically a bad model. Competition creates all sorts of benefits, e,g., innovation. Is it purely the toxic nature of a Sevco that crucifies the Old Firm model? That I can see! Perhaps, Celtic is prepared to live with such a partner in order to have a serious rival that challenges our club to be better.

I have an open mind on these issues but I am an evidence based individual. I cannot just submit to group think without seeing the evidence. I guess I fear Type I errors if you know what I mean!

After you(and perhaps others) respond I shall retire from the blog for a while.


September 13, 2021 5:10 pm

I stopped paying a penny to Celtic from 2018 as a matter of principle.

I dont think the share accumlative route is going to work either, certainly not in short term but for now the CST are the only show in town and they will be seeking answers on unacceptable response to shareholders at 2019 and 2020 AGM.

The consequences of that might just get folk deciding to do what I did as a matter of principle relating to probity in 2018.

Blogs like SC allow issues to be discussed and responses help folk like me to get key points out to inform the wider support which moves the tipping point forward.

As I’ve pointed out David Low will be listened to by many on the SFM podcast and SC readers will be ahead of the game who read SC and are interested in Corporate governance.

The one failing I observe is the belief that supporting the team can be separated from Board matters.

The cause ( the Board) and effect on (the team) needs to be realised more and in my view challenging what The Board do that affects the quality of the team is supporting the team and manager.

There is the love of Celtic and the love of going to watch them. The two are not the same.

Shambles Disunited FC is where Celtic now are. It’s up to the support as one to bring Celtic back to life.

September 13, 2021 5:11 pm


I believe that board members of the PLC, sleep like babies.

The reason why is obvious. They are a shower of corrupt, thieving, lying cowards, whose only aim is to make as much money for themselves as possible. They do not care who they have to trample over, in the daily sprint to the neverending trough.

Regular people do not act like this…but when you possess neither heart, soul or conscience, it becomes increasingly easier with each passing day, to act as they do. We should all despise them. I know I do.

Hail Hail.

Squire Danaher
September 13, 2021 5:22 pm

Rebus 4:59

Perhaps, Celtic is prepared to live with such a partner in order to have a serious rival that challenges our club to be better.


I have to say I enjoy your considered contributions.

I think, regarding the above comment, things are more functional than that.

DD wants into a UK-wide setup. He believes he needs a viable MankyMob to be part of such a proposal/eventuality.

I don’t think he wants or needs us to be better. He just needs a MankyMob at the table.

September 13, 2021 5:27 pm

If Ange is a man of probity and I think he is, until his employers become the same the best we will get is he will see the season out.

What we can hope for is he emulates Wim Jansen when he left.

I’ve seen the Celtic underbelly, the one that accepted the 5WA but did not have the courage to admit it.

I’ve seen the underbelly that went along with Res12 shareholders until proof was provide the 2011 UEFA licence was granted by false pretence presented in 2018 and the new CEO refused to use it.

I’ve seen the underbelly that was given evidence the LNS Commision was denied key evidence that made his decision untenable but refused to handle it.

I know they lack probity, I’ve experienced it. I wouldnt work with the current Board. I couldnt trust them to be honest.

September 13, 2021 5:32 pm

New season but nothing changes. Mugs will always be mugs. Stopping feeding these charlatans your hard earned is the only avenue to putting an end to it.
There are many who would show part of their bare bottom on the way into the ground if told to because going to the game with family or friends is what they do and always have done.

Keep doing the same things and get the same results as they say.

You won’t need to show part of your bottom though, of that I’m pretty sure, in the same way I’m just as sure they’ll continue to just show how much of a complete bottom they are by continuing to feed the perpetrators.

September 13, 2021 5:49 pm

Wish Chalmersbhoy was back on. He used to be a stalwart on here.

September 13, 2021 5:49 pm

My post on CQN based on my experience of making the IT Unit of a good size Govt Dept responsible for delivering IT services to its office in the developing world.

As someone who had to help manage culture change the first thing to be aware of is that those you are trying to get buy in from will resist you strongly.

So the first job is to sell them the benefits to them of the changes you propose. Doing that to resistant staff is difficult but doable, however if the Directors resist you are fecked before you start.

Knowing what I have learned in pursuing Res12 for 8 years I cannot say I’m surprised McKay left.

If you are a person of probity and find yourself dealing with folk who are not, it’s only a matter of time before you realise the culture gap is unbridgeable.

What angers me and keeps me going, (the Board will be asked to account for their responses to share holders at the 2019 and 2020 AGMs at next AGM in respect of their justification for voting against the 2019 Resolution 12 and denying sight of the 5WA agreement which were at odds with the full truth) is that a club founded on probity, which makes it attractive to many to support through thick and thin, is being run by folk for whom probity is a stranger in a strange land.

The mistake I might have made is overestimating the numbers in the support who value probity.

September 13, 2021 5:57 pm

Auldheid, you can count on my support & 1k shares. I only bought them in January for one reason & one reason only. To back Auldheid whenever he needs it. Or the CST when and if they agree.

big packy
September 13, 2021 5:59 pm

JIM, yes chalmersbhoy was a good poster,.hope he is well,H,H,

Mike in Toronto
September 13, 2021 6:02 pm


“After you(and perhaps others) respond I shall retire from the blog for a while.”

So, if I dont respond, then you cant retire?

As the blog would be much poorer without your contribution, then I simply wont reply and you shall have to keep posting. 🙂

Hope you are well. Posting or not, I am still hoping that we shall be able to arrange that dinner one of these days.