Sitting pretty?

On the 30th of August I wrote ‘that’s that then’.
We had just lost to our rivals and the current Champions but not only that had no style or substance on the park.
It hadnt been working, we looked very lightweight and disjointed as a squad, the failed Champions League qualifier plus another high profile defeat had many believing it was going to be a loooong season most likely trophyless.
That was then.
 
Since that fateful defeat, we’ve only went and found our feet.
Since then (domestically) we have,,,

Scored 13 goals whilst conceding 3

Taken 13 points of a possible 18

Kept 3 clean sheets in a row for the first time under Ange
 

Then take into consideration the following facts,,,
We’ve already had our blip,
Our entire squad is almost available,
We face all three teams above us soon,
January transfer targeting has begun,
We can now grind out results and win ugly
Despite our previous wobbles we are only 4 points adrift,
Ange is just getting started.
 

This is a team that has yet to find second gear. The middle of the park is there to be improved, James Forrest should lift the right hand side up a level, we still don’t have a number one left back which affects our number one right back. Two summer signings are just entering the fray now (Scales & G-Mac), and two have been deemed not decent enough (Uroghigde & Shaw). Then there’s the clear campaign by the refs.
Despite all this,,we are well positioned and are heading towards title winning form.
 
There’s not a single SPL team I would even think of trading places with.
We are poised for an assault up the table having solidified as a unit and gained some belief in our play.
Being top now would bring its own pressures, there’s no need for the moment.
Let the team at the top get hounded by the two below them just now, and forget about ourselves. Given time and their squad depth, both are destined to naturally fall away, but hopefully not before they drove the team above hard, and tackled them harder.
 
When it comes to player trading there’s around a dozen players donating nothing to the first team who wouldn’t be missed at all. That’s a lot of wages. Those unwanted could be asset managed or released creating funds, there are some options as we saw with Ncham. Most league clubs would snap up a Celtic bargain or freebie, Bain and Soro for instance.
I don’t see any other clubs in the land with such numbers to wheel and deal.
 
As Round 2 of fixtures gets fully underway, our false ranking and underachieving start may have given us an unexpected bonus,,,
That despite being a lowly fourth in the table, it might just be the famous Glasgow Celtic who are sitting pretty in the SPL.

By Mahe

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Auldheid

if they do break the law, then that can have serious repercussions for them. Its with that in mind that I write this for Auldheids and the Celtic Trusts attention. You might find this of interest in your attempts to gather support in holding the Celtic board to account. It could give you the oppertunity to reach out to much greater numbers of the Celtic shareholder supporters.
With some time and research I managed to obtain without too much resistance, the full list of all 28,366 Celtic shareholder supporters.
By law i cannot pass on or divulge their names and addresses as it is against the law to do so, it has to be said that i obtained them with the Celtic boards permission, but for research purposes only, if it helps you then i would be happy to explain to you and the Celtic Trust the process of how i obtained all the names and addresses. It was a relatively simple, straightforward process and would surely aid your attempts to obtain full accountability from the Celtic board, it would also broaden your search for much bigger backing. Apologies for the break in posting, but a big Hail Hail to Mick and Mahe, two great Tims.
Auldheid and Bawheid, two Heids that beat as one. Yours in Celtic Mike.

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My apologies, I missed this.

There is a CST meeting on Tuesday and I will pass on your posts.

They have a Membership recruitment committee who would be interested although it is fair to say they are disillusioned by the lack of support from The Trustees for suggestions made by them to reach the shareholders whose details you have.

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends from a pretty wet and grey East Kilbride.
We do seem to be generally improving week to week now so I agree, Mahe that the only way is up. But slowly and gradually sneaking up to top spot will do me just fine. I don’t expect that the gap will close on Wednesday, with us visiting Hibs and Sevco at home to ‘we won at last’ Aberdeen. However, with Hearts and Dundee Utd also having tricky away games against St Johnstone and Livingston respectively Sevco must be thinking that this is a round of fixtures where they might actually extend their lead.
But as Auldheid would no doubt agree – “we’ll see………….” 😉

A thing of beauty

Oh dear. I hate articles like this, especially prior to a game at hibs where our record is pretty poor. We are playing better now but we are not there yet. I said if we win on Wednesday I might start believing. It would mean we complete the first round of fixtures 4 points behind having played at lots of the tougher venues.
If we go 7 points behind it wont matter that we’ve played a lot of the tougher games, the pressure will be too much to catch up.
Factor in also that we haven’t shown the same fortitude as the Huns to come back from going behind. That’s what wins titles. Now I the first to admit that on the occasions that they have gone behind ( St Johnstone and St Mirren) they’ve been given a penalty and that helps but they showed they can come through adversity. I’m not sure we’ve done that yet.
I appreciate Mahe and bmcuwp have to write articles but I hate tempting fate.
Off to the gym and will catch up later.

CFC

Mahe

“That’s that then” – 4 games in and in the two previous games we had won 6-0.
Anyone watching that Huns game could see we should at least have drawn and yet you threw the towel in. Deary me.
And Ange was amazed that anyone would concede a league 7 games in.
4 must be a world record😀

Anyone watching that game on August 29th would see two limited teams, one struggling in transition, in effect a new team , the other vastly overrated by a slavering media.

Even if results go against us on Wednesday there are 27(!) games to go. Plenty of opportunity for points to be gained and lost.

After Wednesday the Huns have us, Hearts, Hibs, Aberdeen and even Livi away in the next round of matches.
Let’s see where we are on Jan 2 at 2pm, with a winter break to refresh and hopefully strengthen.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

My article the day after the one from MAHE,mentioned above.

https://sentinelcelts.com/2021/08/31/regrouping/

I said then that this was not the time for heads to go down-though as it turned out,one was to roll pretty shortly-and although I largely agree with the sentiments today,neither is now the time to get happyclappy either.

As yet,as is is obvious,we are a work in progress. We can only get better,but there will be one or two hurdles struck on the way to the winning line. The huns have a few lengths advantage on us,but we are younger,more mobile,fitter.

And races with hurdles in them aren’t run over sprint distances.

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CFC

I think we were all gutted after that match,plus the CL fiasco. MAHE wrote his article after the game while I was still trying to find a cat to kick. I had an extra day to write mine,plus I’m usually more optimistic anyway.

There’s a lot to be said for optimism. It keeps me going anyway.

GFTB

Morning folks

Ange doesn’t bother about clean sheets … he made a great point that bit conceding a goal does not mean the team has defended well ….

As for Easter Road

Got a feeling that even very good managers have struggled there … not sure the current Leicester manager has ever won at that ground

I will take a 0-2 and move on

Remember and gamble responsibly but just now 2-0 to the good guys is a decent bet …. Although at around 6/1 not attractive enough for this gambler …. That’s the reason you never meet a rich gambler 🙂

Anyway off to the (bedroom) for work ….

Since December 2020 I can appreciate Jobo’s working from home posts … but even now the EK weather reporter (not forecaster) goes one better and now can enjoy his retirement ….. 🙂

Margaret McGill

There is nothing Tories hate more than organized working class contingents threatening their gravy train with the law. Expect to be lied to. Again.

GER57

It’s more healthy for one to be optimistic than pessimistic. I read this somewhere years ago.
However, our record at Easter Rd is pretty poor and three points is not a done deal, notwithstanding Hibs’ recent lapses. (Maybe they’ve shot their bolt for the season)
ATOB is correct to be cautious, although going to the gym sounds a bit reckless to me.

Auldheid

Margaret McGill
There is nothing Tories hate more than organized working class contingents threatening their gravy train with the law. Expect to be lied to. Again.
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Indeed but by whom?

CFC

Positivity over negativity every time, with a high dose of reality thrown in.

Full time on Jan 2 is the time to assess where we are, why and what to do to to progress.
Ange doesn’t strike me as the sort of guy to sit around doing nothing in the three weeks break in January.
Being behind, scoring more and conceding less is a fine place to be ( for now). They don’t have a track record of performing under pressure.

St tams

We need to get a settled back 4 .
With Juranuvic and Bolingoli as fullbacks and
Julien as soon as he’s fit at centre half .
I also think that both Rogic and Turnbull should have been rested on Saturday, but we don’t have any replacements.

Maestro Fan

Put it this way, the huns and their press poodles underestimated our potential for improvement. They wrote us off, but will now be increasingly anxious. Good.

Jobo Baldie

I regularly see messages about Julien coming back. But with Starfelt now playing a lot better I hope that this just means that we have options at the back with any 2 from 3. of course, if we played all 3 and tried 3-5-2 that might be a way of accommodating both Kyogo and G-Mac as a front partnership? In Ange I trust 😉

Mike.

Mahe – Bobby, thanks for your responses. Auldheid, thank you for your reply. My PC is kaput, that is why I couldn’t contact you personally. As you know PLCs are regulated, that’s why King removed his ‘basket of assets’ from plain sight. Directors are accountable to their shareholders, my educated guess would put the current shareholding supporters at number three, in the list of the top five group of Celtic shareholding, that is a powerful position to have. IMO fan ownership of the club is a heavenly dream, but with all the shareholding supporters with you, that might give you a bigger say in your quest for director accountability.
“As so many existing shareholders have become detached from their shares,it has never been more important to get reunited with those shares and to take up any new entitlement that they may be entitled to”. David Low Celtic Star January 2021.
Celtic PLC, number of Ordinary Shareholders – 28,335, spread across the globe but mostly as you would expect here in Scotia,
As you know most of the shares was purchased in 1994/5. David Low in his interview with Larry Cafiero in the first of July this year that the Trust had over 25,000 shares at that time, I found it incredible that the response to your request for backing took so long and that the numbers of new Trust members was only 10000, was it my imagination that the Celtic Blogs were saying that the take up of new members was much, much higher? I’m not here to judge, because the Celtic Trust pushes the cause of better treatment for Celtic supporters and that is what we all strive for, along with director accountability and a more open and honest game. The Celtic support deserve much better, but my trust still rests with you and good Celtic men like Bobby and Mahe, not forgetting Richie.
All the best to Sentinel Celts.

Rebus67

Mike,

I once thought about going down a similar route as you to obtain shareholder details, but inertia and life got in the way.

I understand you are steering your comments within the law, but can you say if your list includes email addresses? If so, it would be an inexpensive method of galvanizing the views of shareholders. Publishing these views could be an eye catching strategy.

When you place this group of shareholders at #3, am I correct in assuming you mean after DD and the Train block? Finally, I am trying to get my head round the potential power of this group. It certainly triumphs on the sheer number of individuals involved but not in terms of shareholding. Further, can we assume that 28,000+ Celtic shareholders will unite on an issue?

Stay safe, and thanks for the thought provoking comment,

Rebus

A thing of beauty

So it’s seven games since Celtic won in the league at Easter Road. Hmm that’s a hoodoo and then some. Also I see that’s another away game for Celtic that’s not on the telly. Wtf? I cannot wait till January so I can tell Sky to stick their package up their jacksy. Their coverage is shit anyway and like all other channels dominated by Huns. I won’t miss them. I actually think this is the start of SPFL tv and when the next contract is up for grabs we’ll go it alone.

Mahe

Good morning from a storm swept central California,,second day now of much needed rain. Hopefully a day off accompanies it.

ATOB, I think we are perfectly positioned. 4th right now really suits us.

Maestro Fan, our thoughts are aligned. We are on the up and up.

GFTB,
Why that’s not,,,
Is it,,
It couldnt be,,,
That you Gerry?

Mahe

Rebus,,,

“Further, can we assume that 28,000+ Celtic shareholders will unite on an issue?”

On an issue, no.
On the betterment of Glasgow Celtic, absolutely.

Hail Hail

Lets not forget Dundee United are doing very well with about fifteen new players.Maybe says something about Scottish football.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

TIMHORTON

And a new manager. Spooky,innit?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

ATHINGOFBEAUTY

SKY “give” Scotland about £30m a season for full coverage. Approximately the same that they pay the EPL for about four hours of coverage. Given the cost of your package,I think anyone with shares in the company should heed your warning and bin their shares before the turn of the year!

Auldheid

Mike.

The CST Governance Resolution that contains some elements of a blog here on SC about Director Responsibilities has been deemed unnecessary in the Boards Response in the Notice of AGM documents sent to shareholders last Friday.

They also thought the Note of Concern resolution unecessary because no mention was made of why shareholders were concerned even though that was the basis on which CST members voted to adopt it in August.

Why the ommission is what those who voted for the original resolution want to know and have indicated so to the CST Trustees to be discussed at the CST meeting tomorrow.

PS the membership of CST rose from a few hundred to over 1k not 10k as result of dissatisfaction with the Board. It is in decline , one of the reasons being a suggestion on lines Rebus made but using postal mail. It was turned down by Trustees.

New members are becoming disillusioned as a result.

Taking your shareholder numbers suggestion a bit further, shareholders do not have the power, even via the AGM, to make the Board change their position.
Only ST Holders have that power but if I were a strategists at Celtic and wanted to prevent a unified front, I’d invent the CST.

We need the 29k supporters who are shareholders to keep the AGM door open and to speak softly but we need the 10-15-20k ST holders who are not shareholders brought into a single organisation, whose aim is not accountability via share ownership, which might have been a dream when CST founded, but is no longer realistic with arrival of a large PLC , but accountability by wielding the big stick of purchasing power at AGMs.

With that support base on Membership Scheme grounds , sufficient funds would be available to challenge Celtic under Company Law as Mike rightly identifies.

A legal fund was another suggestion that never saw the light of day after it was made.

If a Membership for all created, if circumstances ever arose when Celtic get taken over then the wishes of such a large organised number simply could not be ignored or they might even have amassed enough capital to buy Celtic, even if on the never.

We need to start thinking out of the box and learn from experience what isnt working.

GFTB

Mahe 14.35pm (our time)

I it’s definitely me … always have a wee look in and in contact with BMCUWP every now and again so thought I would post …. Need to keep the positivity going 👍

Will try my best not to annoy anybody and keep things Celtic 🍀

big packy

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, jim if your lurking hope all is well, miss you buddy👍 gerry fae the brig, long time no speak, welcome to the blog,👍

Billy Bhoy

ATOB

I’m stunned to hear that Sky are not showing the game. As you say……WTF???

I’ve just checked their schedule and the only game being shown across their platform on Wednesday is Preston v Liverpool in the ELC. Given this, there’s no reason for not covering an SPFL game. Yesterday, the Sevco game overlapped with the Spurs game on a different channel.

I curse Sky AND the fuds that run our game that signed up to this!

Saltires en Sevilla

CST did very well responding at such short notice to the most recent Sean Nos style jig pulled by the Bord.

That was good work.

Although it does present an obvious query

What Surprised observers? that they didn’t already have 100 shareholders lined up, or the proxies secured, to act in an agile manner – as in anticipation of Bord quick-steps – or if they did, why the huge programme of pleas to have non-members completing documents?

That doesn’t add up. Unless it was an opportunistic recruitment drive.

Their ill-advised collaboration with Low, and seemingly strange direction of travel in that period, has left quite a few folk out in the cold. Or at least….. very, very, very, very wary.

Requiring a subscription is another red-flag or warning signal. Everyone accepts organising and administration incurs a cost and ongoing provision for software/licences/hardware/insurances/legal etc… but surely 1,000 members could be asked to ‘crowd fund’ as and when funds are required ( above basics)

Buying shares is a waste of time- a Board like Celtic will simply shift the ground if certain thresholds are close to being achieved. That should be obvious.

Clearly suspicion remains that the aim of the share-buying plan was to protect some unamed shareholder ‘value’.

None of the above inspires any confidence.

There is huge merit in bringing all 28,000 shareholders under one roof – but too many will look at recent history of CST and wonder just what the fek they are signing up to.

The only solution is to starve the Bord of income – then perhaps an organisation can emerge that the Bord will listen to …

Recent History tells us the bulk of support (or enough of them) will only become active in much, much tougher times.

GFTB

Big Packy

Was on the blog a good while back, a few months off social media is an absolute joy, cheers for the welcome, during lockdown your favourite bakers “Christie’s” started doing home deliveries (and still are) not sure Cheshire would have been in their delivery zone though

Craig76

30 mins of Big Bad John enjoy
John Hartson Celtic Goals / If You Know The History

big packy

GERRY, your making me jealous, christies pies and bridies, wish they did deliver to cheshire,.hope you are well buddy,

Rebus67

Mahe,

You make my point. The “betterment of Celtic” will be perceived differently amongst the 28,000+ shareholders. Some will be Board supporters, some not. Some will support community ownership, some will not, etc, etc.

It will be like herding cats. I liken it to the impact of the clan system and how the Hanovarians subdued Scotland. Keep them divided amongst themselves.

I suspect that the best hope for some measure of control is through ST holders rather than shareholders, as Auldheid is now saying. (I think!)

However, somehow, I feel this is all a distraction. What is the issue of concern? Is it fans having a say in Celtic, or is it the governance of Scottish football? If it is the latter then it is not exclusively a Celtic issue, and any action has to take that into account.

My granpa used to say when a door closes, sometimes it blows open a windae!

Rebus

A thing of beauty

GFTB,
Welcome to the blog. Trust the wee blade is doing well, maybe even ready for a season book with her dad.
Craig 76,
I can’t get the Hartson link to work. I’ll try again later.

Leftclicktic

GFTB
Good to see you on Sir.

GFTB

AOTB

Cheers

She absolutely loves Kyogo, she is on Celtic Twitter all the time, season book might be a bit away as am now working Monday-Saturday to keep both bosses in the lifestyle they have become accustomed too, working from home so can’t even complain …

Her highlight of the season was wee Kyogo picking up the litter when he was subbed, she loves our Japanese Bhoy

GFTB

Lefty …

Cheers … hope all is good in outer Coatbrig (Shawheid)

Enjoyed reading your posts about the wee mhan keeping you busy

SFTB

DId I see this right on Saturday evening Sportscene results round up? I thought I saw their correspondent from the Killie game as one Cammy Bell who got booted off the Heart & Hand Podcast for bigotry? Was he re-employed by the BBC or allowed to continue regardless?

Toffee Tim

Big Packy
Scanning these pages for a few weeks and I’m thinking I know your family.

If I’m correct;

Hows Evelyn? Apologies if I’ve got it wrong?

big packy

TOFFEE TIM, hi pal, my mother in law is evelyn, if thats any help.👍

Auldheid

Saltires in Seville.

Celtic did not bring forward the AGM.

They returned it to it’s normal month of November. It was December last year only because of Covid.

The Concern resolution was ready to go the shareholders at beginning of Septmember against the possibility of a return to the usual AGM calendar.

A request to get moving was refused on basis CST had one of their own to present. Fair enough but presumption was it would be to November AGM timetable when Celtic normally ask for requisitions mid October.

Fortunately the Concern Resolution had gone to CST members by a CST Newsletter earlier at end of September so not to get caught out by a return to normal.

Even then, as it was confined to CST members the 100 target was an unknown number short when Celtic set the deadline, whereas had it gone out in an announcement mid to end September to all shareholders then the 100 needed would have been met by time Celtic asked in mid October.

The hope was that when non CST members saw the evidence of what shareholders were concerned about, which they still havent, then they might be persuaded not just to support the Resolution but join the CST and push the numbers up.

It is inexplicable why this opportunity was missed as well as that what CST put out on line on Monday differed from what CST members voted to adopt in August that included why they were concerned.

The proposers of the Concern Resolution want to know why urgency was needed and why reference to the evidence was not made in the version provided to Celtic.

What Celtic were given as result of last minute returns has enabled them to be selective in what went into the Notice of AGM report in that even the CST on line version made reference to PLs denial of the 5WA, but Celtic made no reference in AGM Notice and the lack of being supplied with a Recital of evidence on which basis CST adopted the Concern Resolution has removed any possibility of those reasons being shared with all shareholders in the AGM Notice they receive.

I can appreciate why everyone thinks Celtic are at fault but that spin of late request by Celtic certainly got folk to act, but it also covered up the lack of diligence that not only required an urgent appeal but allowed a different version of the Concern resolution to be given to Celtic weakeng its force.

Hopefully following the CST meeting tomorrow everyone will see the Recital of causes of concern that justified the resolution put to Celtic.. When seen, readers might appreciate why Celtic did not want shareholders at large to see it.

It may be too late to be published in AGM papers but not too late to prevent AGM attendees attendng in ignorance.

If you are wondering wtf , you are not alone.

Auldheid

Rebus

You are correct, I thought the only official to way to make The Celtic Board accountable was via the AGM route.

The latest attempt by Celtic, aided by what looks like CST incompetence at best, to subvert the democratic AGM process has convinced me that supporters/ shareholders attending an AGM are taking a knife to a gun fight.

Alternative ways to get a devious and deceitful Board to change their thinking are needed, other than share acquisition. I think the CST resolution on governance via Company Law adherence is the way to go and subscription should be to a legal fund to allow legal challenges.

I’m not so worried about reaching agreements on an issue, the ability to share issues on social media is likely to find common ground amongst all views.

I think finding some consensus on what is to Celtic’s benefit as a whole, is better than having none at all.

Craig76

GFTB

I forgot to welcome you to the blog last night. Twas very rude, not to have done so.

So a big WELCOME to GFTB. Hope you decide to stick around. 😀

Auldheid

Rebus

This is a blog from June on Directors Responsibilities.

https://sentinelcelts.com/2021/06/08/directors-responsibilities-and-remedies/

Call me old fashioned but I thought they had a responsibility not to lie to shareholders in the face.

That Recital of evidence I mentioned excluded from what CST sent Celtic, was examined by a lawyer experienced in Company Law.

He did not say law had not been broken only that proving it had been broken deliberately would be difficult in court, costly and with no guarantee of success.

However I doubt very much if Celtic would be happy to see themselves being taken to court because shareholders believed they had been lied to.

The threat has to be real and that takes money to make it.

Hello Gerry, I put in a transfer request as well.

KLV

GFTB

Magua

Cheers … no need for a welcome I have been here before … but thanks, stayed away fae social media as I am a big Neil Lennon fan, so like many others last season was a hard yin, still think Covid helped the Huns and hindered the Tim’s but am 100% behind Ange and hope 21/22 can make us forget 20/21 …. The past is gone , Kyogo & co are the future, also am a massive Joe Hart fan and delighted he seems to love being a Celtic player

GFTB

KLV

Delighted to see you posting, blame that BMCUWP for getting posting … but there are far too many good punters posting to not enjoy the Tic chat

SFTB

Latest news from the Superbru Predictor.

A good week for three of us with Friesdorfer, Travelbhoy and myself getting 3 exact scores and a forecast to end up in joint top spot.

A bad week for Gutenburg who got the wooden spoon for one correct (prediction only) when he had the Celts winning by 4 to nil

A couple of good weeks can shoot you well up the table. I have fone from the bottom 10 or so to 14th position in 2 weeks.

Overall, Call Me Gerry and Hopeful Hoops remain joint top, 5 points clear of the chasing pack. They might want to start dishing out tips.

At the bottom, wee BGFC has replaced Leggy as the man holding up the table.

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Remember to have a fresh round of picks in for 6 fixtures on Wed, evening, two days time, by 7.45 ****************************

GTFB

Your bang on the money, about backing Ange. I’m still raging about the 1-5 defeat at Ibrox in 1988. So, it may well take me a few decades, to forget last season. 😀

KLV

Welcome to the blog.

GFTB

Magua

You just gave me a cold shudder … only been to Ibrox twice … both that blinking season 4-1 and 5-1… both games we scored first Chris Morris and McAvennie ….

My memory from that day was the full Broomloan Road singing “always look on the bright side of life” while we got pumped … By the way if the net wasn’t there the Ray Wilkins screamer was hitting me right in the face

Jobo Baldie

SFTB – thanks for the Superbru reminder, without which I’d probably have forgotten the midweek predictions.

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