Desirable Villa In Central Birmingham


No,this isn’t a paid for comment by a site “partner” like PurpleBricks or Zoopla,that will never happen on here. It’s also a few words I never thought I’d write-desirable Villa in Birmingham,shooorly shum mishtake,hic. Still,it was good enough for Martin O’Neill fifteen years ago,although admittedly he only lived down the M40 in Wycombe.

His reward for taking perennial relegation candidates to the top six in three successive seasons was dissent from the stands and eventually the sack. Just no pleasing some people,eh?

Now,I’m the first to admit that I would rather be writing an article about Celtic on these pages,but it is international fortnight-and a surprisingly quiet one on Timternet. Indeed,the only thing remotely Celtic-oriented which I could write about,and that is tenuous,is the eventual unveiling of Eddie Howe at Newcastle.

I wish him well. I certainly won’t suggest that we dodged a bullet when he declined our offer six months ago. But I’m very happy with the progress we have shown under AP since the beginning of July,so Newcastle’s gain can hardly be considered our loss.

So back to the Villa in Birmingham. This is their third season back in the EPL,and they escaped relegation in their first season by the skin of their teeth. Ironically at the expense of Bournemouth,which led to the resignation of Howe in the first place. Last year,they definitely played at a level above their station,finishing eleventh in the league-and perhaps unwittingly fuelled the flames for the eventual dismissal of lifelong Villain Dean Smith. Speculative,of course,but perhaps a finish around 14th place last season would have kept the fans happy and also prevented their misplaced sense of entitlement this season which led to the board sacking a very good manager. We will never know.

But back at Newcastle,where the papers still proclaim them as “the richest club in the world” I wonder whether Mike Ashley cast some envious glances down the A1(M) towards Stratford in East London? Having only just sold Newcastle lock stock and barrel-and debt free!-to the Saudis for £300m,news reached us yesterday that the West Ham porn barons have managed to screw some Eastern European for around £200m in exchange for 27% of that debt-laden club. Hmmm,I wonder if they saw him coming?!!

£800m plus debt buys you West Ham these days. Truly the lunatics have taken over the asylum in our beautiful game.

At this point,we don’t know whether the offer from Villa will be deemed suitable for Gerrard and his backroom team,so we don’t know whether or not his next opponents as a manager will be Hibs or Brighton. In fact,I very much doubt whether he himself will know which way he will jump. His place with the huns is already cemented in place-and I’m sure he will be buying a going away gift for the people who made that possible,like Beaton,Madden,McLean,Dallas et al-and I’m not sure that his stock will rise any higher even were he to win the title this season too.

Up here,the only way is down for him. And not just with the support but also with potential suitors down south.

Having said that,I don’t buy into the theory that he is getting out of Dodge because he is worried about the vast improvement this season at Celtic Park. He probably fancies a chance at The Champions League,for instance,and he won’t get that at Villa. He might even fancy spending some of the fabled £40m available-but let’s be honest,he wouldn’t see much of it. He will have more cash available to spend at Villa. In a league where £40m doesn’t go very far!

That Rangers have given him permission to talk means little,as there is a chance he would simply have resigned had they refused it. That he is holding those talks means little either,as Villa still have to sell him on the potential at their club,that he won’t be just the latest managerial statistic at a club where the ghost of Deadly Doug still seems to linger. But I think that there will be an agreement arrived at,and Gerrard and his backroom staff will be sitting in the dugout next Saturday,having milked the applause from The Holte End. Which leaves the Ibrox players wondering a few things,such as why the club has consistently denied them a move while waving their knickers at the first club to come calling for their manager. Or who will replace said manager.

The names being bandied about are the familiar failed-elsewhere types with a photo of them with a Rangers strip on as a lad. Alex Neil,McInnes,etc. I’ll throw another name into the mix-Steven Davies as player manager. But that is by the by. There were two big announcements yesterday from EPL clubs,at Newcastle and at West Ham. If a third from Villa is imminent,I think they will have got the thin end of that particular wedge. Good luck to them.


Above article by BMCUWP

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Prestonpans bhoys
November 10, 2021 11:41 pm

Interesting article Bobby, think slippy is in for a bit of a shock down south, impartial mibs make a big, big difference. See European football red cards as frame of reference😱against SPL domestic😕

November 10, 2021 11:53 pm


Cue Scouse outrage along the lines of- “That wouldn’t even have been a warning in Scotland!!!”

November 10, 2021 11:54 pm

I thought Alex Neil was a Celtic man……….what do i know.
I think Gerrard would have made a few phone calls down south to see what way the land lies.

November 11, 2021 12:08 am


His name is being bandied about in connection with the job. Interesting thought though-I wonder how my tenure as manager of the huns would work out?

November 11, 2021 3:45 am

Big Stan Collymore tweeting it’s done.
Rumours 90 to spend in Jan, which would have sweetened the deal.
Incredibly Van Bronkhorst is being asked for by their support despite the fact he’s clearly not a good manager.
I agree with the article that his stock couldn’t grow much higher up north. He will want to be back living full-time with the family, want to raise his English managerial profile, and ideally gain the new level experience needed for the Liverpool job.
I have my doubts he will be a good manager but it’s a funny old game.

It’s now up to Ange to keep everyone including himself ultra professional regarding the title at hand. The support are already taking it as a given, that attitude can’t permeate the squad.
And as mentioned the board might skip a signing or two, that would be short sighted but it wouldn’t surprise.

Some Celtic talk now,,,
The GB banner stated Higgins or us.
Given the board never want to be seen bowing to fan pressure it’s a risky statement.
The easy choice for them would be Higgins and eff you to the GB.
However given the atmosphere is almost directly tied to them (morgue for first 30 vs Livi)
it’s a tougher choice than usual.
Can’t simply turn to the waiting list, and the lack of atmosphere may result in more walk aways than usual.
However,,,if they don’t like the GB with their UEFA fines and politics etc they just had the answer presented to them on a plate.
One appointment gets rid of them.

As for the GB I admire their stance on this one, but they must know it could go wrong, they could have their bluff called.
If that happens, maybe they shall work against the board from the outside and help get that ball truly rolling.
Outside stadium demonstrations while Ange rolls towards a dream debut title would be strange. In that respect the Gerrard departure is actually bad timing for the GB.
We also must ask will any groups stand in solidarity with them?

Hail Hail

November 11, 2021 5:52 am

I might be nieve but I wish Board members could read some of the posts that have been on here, with the posters fond memories of games and incidents past, jogged by the wiki pages reports
They would get a feel for the depth of the guy in the terracings feelings about Celtic and what it means to them. They have to realize how deep our feeling for Celtic go They should listen to the fans they are right the majority of the time , be it about players, tactics or Boards decisions. The split between the Board and the fans can only hurt us in the long run. We may follow Celtic but we will not do it blindly, it’s in our DNA to take a stand for what we believe in, the Board may win the Skirmishes but the Fans will win the War Check our History it’s probably on Wiki

November 11, 2021 6:48 am

Current Swansea boss Russell Martin is another touted for Sevco job, his record isn’t that impressive but when the mibs are onside you don’t have to be a tactical genius

November 11, 2021 8:08 am

Good Morning Celts,

See Ange is still in good form, love the way he’s focusing on Celtic amongst all the Ibrox speculation.

Still with Steven Gerrard heading to Villa Park the SPL season takes a huge twist.

Noticed Gio Van Brockenhurst hasn’t dismissed the notion of managing our old firm rivals.

A hugely experienced footballer at the highest level.

With UEL football at the moment the prospect of UCL football next season and Mr Gerrard getting his multi-million pound move to a huge EPL club, the Ibrox hotseat has got to be tempting.

We shall see…

Hail Hail

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 8:34 am

If Slippy goes to Villa it leaves the huns in turmoil. Will this have a knock on effect on the players and does it enhance out chances of winning the title? As we know they probably need to win the title to get their mitts on the CL money next year due to their financial situation and Slippy’s actions could play a big part in what happens next for Rangers* Will he take a chance on buying any of their players to ease the financial issues, or will he just abandon ship? Interesting times ahead for the huns.

Maestro Fan
November 11, 2021 8:48 am

Acquiring Stevie G was massive for their self esteem and belief.

Losing Stevie G to a mediocre EPL club will be an equally massive blow to said esteem.

He was a one-off ‘name’. Next guy might be a better manager, but I reckon this psychological blow will cost them a fair few points they would otherwise have secured over the rest of the season.

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 8:51 am

I’d imagine there will be a few people polishing their brown brogues and practising their funny handshakes in the next few days.

Bada Bing
November 11, 2021 9:03 am

Russell Martin……last seen chasing Eddy…..

November 11, 2021 9:06 am


Enjoyed your comment about SG becoming a Catholic again. Reminded me of the old joke about Souness when he kept getting sent off up here.

His wife told him that if he didn’t improve his behaviour,she wouldn’t let him take the weans to the chapel on Sunday!

Tommy McQuillan
November 11, 2021 9:45 am

Alex Neill is a Celtic supporter and that’s 100% fact, I know the boy he’s from Coatbridge my home town. Peter Hetherston took him under his wing when he was a wee boy. I don’t see him taking the sevco job in a million years.

The Gombeen Man
November 11, 2021 9:54 am

An interesting article.

The problem being ;

Musing about what happens at Ibrox is  symptomatic of being sucked into the trap of Old Firmisim.

Old Firmisim is slavery.

It’s more addictive and destructive than crack cocaine. It guarantees misery and conflict. The Desmond’s always win. The System always wins.

The Celtic Board are conduits of the Significant Shareholders. They are very well aware of the history of the Club. It’s that history that imprisons us. It’s entangled in confused notions of family, traditions, belief systems and history.

It’s divisive and it’s an illusion. It distracts and divides. It ensures the domination of the System.

We’ve all created a psychological Image of Celtic. That Image of Celtic is made up of selective memories and experiences.

It’s something we stick with – Ignoring or suppressing any evidence to the contrary. It provides Security and Meaning to our insecure Egos.

The finite Ego spends it’s short lifetime in fear. Searching for security, affirmation and control. The Old Firm in the shape of Celtic, ‘appears’ to provide an escape from our fearful lives of ongoing suffering.

The trouble is…It’s a lie.

The Old Firm is a ruthless, commercial joint enterprise – It thrives off our addiction. It guarantees a lifetime, wasted, in servitude to the System.

Continually focussing on one-sided, incomplete versions of the past/history is self-delusional.

It’s manna from heaven for the Significant Shareholders. It sustains that intricate web of illusions. Illusions that ensure we never encounter the Truth of what we are.

Love for Celtic, is really just an attachment to a false image projected by the Ego. It’s really just an expression of the Ego’s anxieties and insecurities That’s why it’s so difficult to get any agreement.

To subscribe to any notion of walking away. Is the beginning of the end of the Ego. An end to everything we’ve been taught about Good and Bad, Darkness and Light.

The False Self, is turned on its head.

It’s the beginning of an experience of dying before you die. A dying to everything you’ve known and have been told.

What happens when beliefs systems like Celtic are questioned and the Ego comes under threat?

What happens when the Ego begins to dissolve?

Why doesn’t the System question Mr Desmond’s business practices? Very surprising with such a biased media and legal system in the best wee county?

Mr Desmond and the other Significant Shareholders are the contemporary, human faces of the System that’s enslaved generations.

Settling for musing about Old Firmisim is a tragedy and blocks an experience if what we truly are.

That experience is Love.

It’s completely free of fear and conflict.

It’s our birthright.

It’s what was taken from our ancestors and what was fought for…for generations. Through subjugation by Old Firmisim we’re denied our birthright.

That birthright is an experience of Love.

It’s a transformational experience and what’s behind the desire for freedom that’s expressed in politics, religion and rebel songs.

It’s also death the Old Firm, Domination System.

“I pray God to rid me of God,”

Meister Eckhart.

Bada Bing
November 11, 2021 10:07 am

Slippy G at Villa, official

November 11, 2021 10:13 am

Morning all,

So Slippy has finally slithered back down south to Villa.

Perhaps his daughter Lourdes can now come out of the stair cupboard 😜😜😜

HH. 🍀🍀🍀

November 11, 2021 10:22 am

My sincere apologies to Alex Neil for suggesting that he wore a certain rag as a child. Happy to put the record straight.

I blame the,erm,rags.

November 11, 2021 10:24 am


The article is as much about the rotten cash obsessed EPL as it is about the huns.

November 11, 2021 10:39 am

The Gombeen Man @ 9:54 am,

Superb stuff, it should be easier for folk to see the illusion in our old firm beliefs and projections than the sometimes complex day to day shenanigans of our egoistic existence.

Yet somehow it’s not.

Humanity must regain higher consciousness, it should be a fundamental cultivation.

Hail Hail

November 11, 2021 10:48 am


November 11, 2021 11:06 am

Just saying,like. I was not happy with our fans on Sunday about their behaviour during Sunday’s ‘silence’. Surely they can turn their backs if they feel so strongly?

However,the background noise from the Cenotaph was considerably louder.

November 11, 2021 11:22 am

Gerrard goes from hero to Villain in some opinions. Nicknames can be ironic and accurate too!

November 11, 2021 11:22 am


Forgot to mention, myself and Mrs L are going to the Springsteen Sessions tonight in Rutherglen.

We will be in the Vogue beforehand so if any of you Bhoys or Ghirls are there, come over and say hello.

( Only one hello, remember !!!!!)

The Gombeen Man
November 11, 2021 11:24 am


It was a good read M.
The OF is merely a particularly toxic incarnation of the System.
The EPL is part of that too.

The post was more aimed at the general theme of posts.


That shift in consciousness beyond the constarints of rationality and the Ego often takes a bit of work.

The conditioning of that monkey mind is all we often know.

It’s not easy, there’s a whole lifetime/generations of conditioning, protected by the System.

Till Later…

A thing of beauty
November 11, 2021 11:24 am

Thank goodness I am so thick that I cannot understand how going to support my football team is more harmful than crack cocaine. Ignorance is indeed bliss. It means I don’t have to worry about how going for few drinks with my family and friends then going to the match is having the same impact as the drug deaths in this country which are currently the highest in Europe.

November 11, 2021 11:37 am

Good afternoon all from Shawlands. Huns crying into their pomagne over the scouse dud. Fair cheering me up so it is. 😂

November 11, 2021 11:42 am


Shawlands noo?!

Them bus passes fair give ye a wanderlust,eh?

November 11, 2021 11:45 am


I hope y’all have a ball!

CHALMERSBHOY posted last night that he has two spares for the event. If anyone wants them,mail me on

and I will put you in touch.

(Btw,I think you and CHALMERSBHOY both live in the EK area,so if you meet him you can maybe split a taxi home!)

November 11, 2021 11:46 am

How dare you Mick! I always was a well travelled, erudite wit, bon vivant and raconteur. Unfortunately my brother in law is from Kilwinning, which affected my social standing. 😂

Sol Kitts
November 11, 2021 11:48 am

Stumbled across the story on Facebook, someone had put up a link to the Sun (I won’t post the link, don’t need them getting the hits). Suffice to say it’s an unbelievable read, but not in the sense that it’s accurate. Apparently Slippy had “great success at Rangers since joining them in 2018.” 1 trophy from 9, ably assisted in winning it by the board of CFC, NFL and the mibs (4 penalties in a game, anyone?), is apparently great success. Winning the league is mentioned several times, as is the great lie that it was an honour to win the club’s 55th title. This is written by “journalists” remember.
Anyway, glad to see the back of him, his sneering voice and attitude, and his sense of entitlement (just realised how well suited those attributes made him for the job at the Huns).
On another happy note, our pre travel PCR results are in, and they’re both negative. Barbados here we come……..😎😎

Por Cierto
November 11, 2021 11:59 am

Gerrard to Villa and Rodgers to Leicester, once again it reveals the absolute fantasy of football fans to believe that their clubs are so entrenched into the hearts of their managers and players. Nothing could be further from the truth, nothing. Sure, they are committed to doing their very best whilst in employment, but to assume that they have an emotional attachment to the teams they work for is way off the mark. It is all about the money with these people! It is only the supporters who have this emotional attachment, no one else, no one! por cierto.

Por Cierto
November 11, 2021 12:00 pm

64.8% win record, Warbuton 65%, por cierto

November 11, 2021 12:23 pm


You rascal !!!!!

I was in Shawlands last week and visited Heraghtys, Titwood, Sweeneys and The Granary.

Loads of pubs and nice wee area 💚💚

Enjoy your afternoon 🍺🍺🍺🍺🍺

November 11, 2021 12:24 pm

Will be in the vogue for 6
See you there..HH

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 12:26 pm

William’s in meltdown mode this morning after Slippy’s departure, their club Twitter feed is brilliant, the peasants aren’t happy. #letsgo.

November 11, 2021 12:29 pm

Choon for Mr and Mrs SOLKITTS.

November 11, 2021 12:30 pm


You telling us the hun peasants are revolting?

We already knew that!

The Gombeen Man
November 11, 2021 12:37 pm


No not a daft as a financial supporter of Old Firmisim/Celtic (in particular). It’s an expression of addiction and misery.

Simply a victim of the System controlled by the Desmonds of this world.

The dopamine and serotonin hit is addictive.

Similarly every rationality and justification is deployed to continue with the self harm.

Much the same as with any addiction, alcohol, drugs, work, food etc.

The repeated cycle of the High followed by the inevitable Crash.

It’s extremely addictive. It’s in control.

It’s always wins.

Old Firmisim is an expression of the hopelessness of any addiction.

Till later

A thing of beauty
November 11, 2021 12:45 pm

Aye ok. I get it. You’re done with Celtic and trying to make me feel guilty that I’m not. If that’s what gets you pleasure and makes you feel justified on turning your back on Celtic then I’ve no problem with that. We all have to get our happiness somewhere. I’ll hopefully continue to get mine at Celtic Park with family and friends till I no longer can and no amount of your musings will change my mind.

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 12:48 pm

I knew that was coming. 🤣🤣🤣

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 12:52 pm

It’s none of the above you mention for me, its as simple as taking the pish out of your footballing rivals in their present form. I hope your well over by.

November 11, 2021 1:08 pm


Ate,but I couldnae resist.

November 11, 2021 1:12 pm

TGM…I genuinely love your analyses and perceptions of peoples’ emotions (with more than a touch of self-analysis, too, I suspect) and your ability to reconfigure them as directly attached to fitba, not only fitba but to your belief of the inherent association to Celtic and its biggest rivals. My simpler take on it is that I love Celtic for the emotional ups and downs I get from it, including the times we’ve triumphed over whatever version of our rivals is put in front of us. The lows from these head to heads are necessary, without them the highs are meaningless. We need the rollercoaster effect to appreciate the ride, the uncertainty of the dip or the thrill of the speed at the peak…but none of this requires anything other than love for Celtic.
Had the club from Ibrox disappeared forever in 2012 they would have been replaced eventually with another worthy rival. Over time the Rollercoaster Ride would have returned with the same lows and highs as previously, our enjoyment would be the same as before.

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 1:20 pm

“A want a pair of brown brogues, a flute, Boaby Madden’s jockstrap, six cans and Stevie G back, the noo ya bastarts.”

Bada Bing
November 11, 2021 1:25 pm

Rumour The Queen is dead

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 1:28 pm

Bada, if auldizzie has checked the huns would fall apart even more.

Noel Skytrot
November 11, 2021 1:29 pm

McCaff, he’s getting absolute pelters on social media.