Fun in the sun

I thoroughly enjoyed yesterday’s match.
For me it was just what the doctor ordered, a great advertisement for the better side of the national sport without a hint of scandal, just quite simply a good game and spectacle.

 

For starters Tannadice is a good size stadium and the home crowd turned out in fair numbers. The pitch was in good nick, I wish we could simply take that for granted.
The team itself, one bad tackle aside, didn’t go down the all to common route of leaving the boot in or trying to turn the game into a physical battle. They have clearly been coached, they held their shape well and must have hoped that via that shape and concentration they could achieve something. When we faded around the house mark they actually came forward, fair play to them.

 

I’m happy to see them fourth in the table, a justification of trying to actually play football, hopefully Chairmen and Owners out there take notice and move away from dinosaur managers. Tam Courts is still a young man, it will be interesting to watch his managerial career play out.

 

As for the mighty Glasgow Celtic what’s not to like?
It was beautiful from start to finish.
The huddle went on longer than usual, the Captain extra animated in there, it’s evident he really, really wanted the victory.
This time last year if asked would Taylor and Mikey be starting Christmas period away games together on the left flank I would have instantly replied no. Taylor would be replaced by better, maybe loaned out, and Mikey’s frame can’t sustain a pressing game plus he isn’t suited to winter pitches would have been my logic.
But it worked, the two natives linked up well and our new look left hand side offered something very different to the usual Jota receiving then coming inside with JJ hanging back.
This offers an exciting new dimension, both can hit the byline and cross, opposition managers and defenders now have a brand new headache.
As a team we now have two solid options out there (JJ & Jota/Taylor & Mikey) to pick and choose as needed.

 

Squad depth is paying off. The transition from Welsh or Starfelt alongside the immense Carter Vickers has been seem less, another lovely clean sheet for the collection even though we fielded a new back four. Starfelt is looking more composed by the game, the early booking didn’t worry me in the slightest.
Scales is now in the mix. a little more depth is always welcome.

 

The vibe around the camp looks very encouraging. There’s a lot of smiles, a lot of determination, and why not for we can play some good football and there’s goals throughout the team. Although we visibly dropped off in the second half, the speed at which we can attack allied with the numbers we throw forward to assist is truly something to behold. At one stage I counted nine defenders versus eight attackers around their box.
You never know who is going to score with this team, even the left back scored yesterday.

 

Turnbull clearly wanted to score, tried hard to get that goal yes he did. If it hadn’t been for Tams goal we would probably be raving about it, such a great first touch and swiveling finish can make going to the game a pleasure.
The pleasure was all Tom Rogic’s though.
It almost reminded me of a Paddy McCourt special, both have a certain knack and when it emerges to witness those special moments are worth the price of admission alone. Tom has exceeded my expectations this year, I would complain if he signed a contract extension.

 

All three goals were special in their own way, and shall help raise spirits even further. The Tangerines took a point from us at home earlier in the campaign, but we are improving and much improved from then, this result was important as it served to reinforce that point to all.
I wouldn’t want to play us now or anytime soon, this is a group thats really growing into its role and growing in confidence.
Feels like we could easily give someone a real doing, not the other way around, always better.

 

One reason it felt like a spectacle was the music emanating from the Green Brigade. Putting the songbook and add-ons aside, the vibrancy and atmosphere they created alongside the sunshine and special goals really helped give the event a party feel. Grown men gathering and singing Christmas songs always makes me smile. They were immense in the efforts.
Which made me realize just how much that effort would be missed, just how much their drums and coordinated singing add to actual games.
We can’t tell if it helps boost the players, but I can easily speculate it’s welcome, how could it not be?
I really hope the matchday experience doesn’t suffer, that’s the last thing we need during this not for the faint season.

 

As for Crawford Allen breaking any supposed neutrality by opining about one particular goal, we know our board won’t say Jack. These instances only help to point out the system is in dire need of fixing. He should have laid low, but oh no.
He has increased the focus on the refs, while raising every Tims alert level.
What an idiot, keep digging.

By Mahe

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The Gombeen Man

Speaking generally and not personally.

Surely it’s disingenuous to offer any self-righteous criticism of the songbook, if we’re posting words like Hun, Orange/Masonic bassas etc.

These labels are just a part of the same cycle of sectarian violence.

Criticism of a young one crossing some line is a bit hollow, if we’re part of the same sectarian problem.

Incidentally, sectarian posting and singing are also money in Dermot’s back pocket.

On another (lighter) note…

Why do Celtic supporters identify with the label, Tims and take offence at the label Taigs?

Don’t they both derive from the Irish name Tadgh?

Tadgh was as popular a name as Padraig in the 19th Century.

Arguably Taig is closer to the Gaelic – Tadgh than the English language version, Tim?

The legendary Glasgow gang leader, Tim Molloy would have been, Tadgh Ó Maolmhuaidh.

Stop identifying with or taking offence at labels, I guess.

A good read Mahe. I’m pleased for Ange.

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MAHE

I thought that yesterday was as good as we have played for quite some time. Very impressive indeed.

We need to continue this form through till the break,and beyond. The huns aren’t going to surrender meekly,the cheating by officials isn’t likely to stop either. AP clearly has his sights set on new signings,and ASAP in January too.

We know he means business. We know too that the players are up for it. Let’s see how keen the board is.

Paddy’s Maw
Jobo Baldie

Good morning friends and thanks for the positive leader, Mahe.
We won yesterday despite 5, yes 5, incorrect offside flags against Celtic players. And we won despite the ref deeming a dangerous knee high crunching tackle as only being worthy of a yellow card, not a red. On the back of an impressive victory – that’s the ideal time for our club to speak out against these decisions. They won’t though.

Maestro Fan

We were magnificent yesterday. It was the SUB left back that scored. How ‘bout that for options?

Turnbull’s goal was balletic. Deserved more acclaim. Outstanding football intelligence, awareness and execution. I thought for a moment big Chaz Mulgrew was going to applaud him after it went in. He probably wanted to.

Tam’s goal was phenomenal. Two touches in particular. His first – the defending DU player was taken totally by surprise by the progressive first touch. Then the touch inside the box to change direction. The DU player was certain Tam would take it outside him and pass. Absolutely wonderful talent.

I like DU as a club. Remember being amongst them for their Scottish Cup semi final stroll against the huns at ‘neutral’ Ibrox (only in Scotland). Great fans who gave it tight to the Zombies that day. However, Butcher should be sin died for that tackle. Disgusting they said on Sportscene. Correct.

Apparently Don Robertson is a tim. Well he hid it well with his decision to only book the butcher.

As for Crawford Mason Allan. That intervention will prove to be self-defeating. We all know what he is. And those within the BBC that brought him on. Breathtaking double standards ain’t gonna wash.

A thing of beauty

Jobo
It’s interesting to me as to why we don’t speak out. Ange hasn’t questioned them or made mention of questioning them later as Paddy’s maw showed Tam Courts did. The furore over Kyogo’s goal was all about creating a narrative that we benefit as much as the Huns. Utter nonsense but yesterday proves how difficult it is going to be for us going forward.
The only time we Called them out was John Reid saying we wouldn’t accept anything less than anyone else and then he was gone. It’s weird.

Chairbhoy

Good lead MAHE,

Posted the other day on the inherent dangers of calling out referees.

What official could make that Kyoto (off-side) call in real time.

But now we have referees judged as if they have VAR

Do Scottish referees have super powers that they might undertake VAR; slow motion, multi angel, with imaginery lines, superimposed on their eyesight.

Well if the SFA are going to judge the officials in Scotland as if they have VAR, yet don’t think they need to support these officials with VAR that is the only logical explanation.

Just one question – who calibrates the thickness and angular accuracy of these lines? Or does the Scottish referee and linesmans’ super powers have this inbuilt?

Goes with the eyes in the back of their head no doubt.

The Gombeen Man @ 8:18 am,

Totally agree, the nonsense with what to get offended by and we’re not sectarian but them are…

The Tim Malloy version of Roamin in the Gloamin DOES have an equivalence with the Billy Boys!!

The Tim’aloy did not sing Quaint songs of shamrocks.

The song I remember started…

Roamin in the Gloamin with a hatchet in my hand…

Quite poetic in an obvious dark and sinister way.

The old firm = sectarianism – period.

Hail Hail

fan

Celtic should ask why Crawford Allan was so definitive in saying Kyogo’s goal was offside.
So far there has been no conclusive angle from tv or print media that has proven such.
Only tv angle was from behind play so no proof whatsoever.
Boyd’s rage about it being offside is obvious due to his consistent anti Celtic rants but has Allan shown same bias?
If so then he is not fit to sit in judgement as head of refereeing where every team should have equal treatment.
Celtic should ask for him to be removed as his personal bias affects his ability to do his job.

Mihal

I can’t agree with the “ two sides of the same coin “ argument. I’m sure there are bigoted pricks among Celtic fans. Just as in any demographic. But the instance is much more profound elsewhere.

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MIHAL

I absolutely agree with you,we are far from the worst. However,it is rarely wise to offer others a stick with which to beat us. As I intend this topic to be the subject of tomorrow’s article,I won’t be a Cupid Stunt and tell ya the plot!

Chairbhoy

Mihal @ 12:55 pm,

We are very good at being all “Laurence Fox” about this.

The fact is we can’t see our bias and bigotry – others should judge.

Those offended judge.

As I’ve quoted oft…

… “take the plank out of your eye before you take the skelf from your brothers.”

For me we maybe better at masking it – does that make us better!?

Hail Hail

jimthetim53

Bobby, Your old man mentioned yesterday that Celtic fans sometimes used to sing Hail Glorious St. Patrick at Parkhead. I recalled my father telling me that he was there once when it happened. It was either on St. Patrick’s Day or close to it.
But one thing about it, even if, at the time, the vast majority of the fans were Catholic, there was nothing actively offensive about it.
Just like Abide With Me prior to Cup Finals in England.
It would take the most extreme political correctness enthusiasts to find umbrage at it.

To give a little comfort to the atheists, did you know St. Patrick was not always a believer? He converted to Christianity in his enslavement in Ireland.

Mahe

A fine leader. I’m loving the positivity around the club these days. One thing is for damned sure. Ange will not watch his players being regularly assaulted without eventually saying something. When this does happen, watch our glorious board run for cover.

As far as the GB are concerned, my views on them should be well Kent by now. So I’ll say no more.

Hail Hail.

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands. Enjoyed the Celtic yesterday. Weather terrible in old Glasgow Town.

bada bing1

If the Club had a credible Media/ PR Spokesman, something we have badly lacked for years IMO,we could contest interventions like ones from ‘the fraternity

Go get Bernard Ponsonby..

jimthetim53

Bigrailroadblues, don’t know what your plans are for tomorrow but it’s heavy snow for North Lanarkshire.

Bigrailroadblues

Jtt53, shopping and dropping missus off at bingo. I’m a jetsetting old geezer. 😂

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BADABING

Bernard Ponsonby would be the perfect appointment,but NOT for the Plc.

ATHINGOFBEAUTY mentioned earlier about John Reid speaking out,and he was shortly ushered out as a result. A rare occasion when the GB and the board agreed,and as usualthey both fucked up and got it wrong.

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JIMTHETIM53

I also remember singing songs like that,and I admit too to Roaming,as well as a few others. And then I put aside childish things.

Bigrailroadblues

https://photos.app.goo.gl/P1FZnvkr7iKtffZk7
Me and me old Dad, Derry, May 2018. Day of Broonie’s testimonial.

jimthetim53

BRRB, Great photo in front of that iconic gable end!

Mahe

Good morning troops, and happy day of the Moon.

TGM, “Surely it’s disingenuous to offer any self-righteous criticism of the songbook”
Probably and that’s why I don’t. I also try to not use terms like Taig, Hun etc.
Regardless of the actual songs, it can’t be denied they add a lot to the actual occasion.
I don’t think many realize what an impact their absence or silence would cause, for fans, the team and the visitors.

As an aside over the weekend through a twist of fate I accidentally discovered the outstanding Allman brothers. What a band! I’m like a kid with a new toy, just can’t get enough. Their third album, a live album, has been rated one of the greatest ever made.
I just wish they had never bought motorbikes, two of them died on two wheels.

Merry Christmas folks, it’s a new speaker for me this year.

Gotta go to work, play nice and stay warm and wrapped up please.

Hail Hail

big packy

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, wee joan has got the results of her ulttrasound scan, she has got left ventrical hypertrophy, bit of a mouthful, but at least now we know what it is we can get around to treating it, more exercise, eating healthier, and getting the blood pressure down,👍

St tams

Best performance of the season so far.
Ange should be speaking out about decisions when we have comprehensively won the game.
I.e The Butcher tackle and the non offsides.

Would also like to see more of our players berate the referees, the way Mcgregor did yesterday after Turnbull assault.

Paddy’s Maw

Big Packy.
That’s good news about Joan – I think. Fingers crossed everything works out.

Mike in Toronto

Mahe

Do you listen to any of Gram Parson’s stuff? Maybe the most talented from that period… but like a few of the Allman boys, had a self-destructive streak a mile wide, and overdosed at just age 26. But left a remarkable legacy of music and self-abuse for such a short period.

Mike in Toronto

BP

that all sounds pretty positive on Joan. Pleased for both of you.

jimthetim53

Packy hopefully that’s good news. Identifying what’s wrong so it can be dealt with. Very best wishes to Joan. (And yourself of course!).

Leggy

Afternoon all,

BRRB,

Excellent photo 💚

Regarding yesterday, I thought it was our best performance of the Season.

That tackle on Turnbull, dearie me, an absolute shocker and Red all day long.

The rollercoaster ride continues, and I for one am loving it 👏👏👏

HH 🍀🍀

Big Packy

All the best to you and Joan.

bada bing1

Lyon ban the hun hordes from the game on Thursday…..Monday just got better

Big Packy
It’s always best to know what you’re up against, and now that you and wee Joan are aware of it you can work together with the medics to sort things out. Getting her blood pressure down though….means you’ll have to be on your best behaviour. Look after her, mate.

Mahe

Will check him out Mike cheers.

Craig76

BP
Good news……….always welcome
JTT53
I remember a short version of Faith of our Fathers being sung.

Craig76

MAGUA
I think these books would be right up your street if you’ve not already got them
https://mobile.twitter.com/EarlyCeltic/status/1465722559031398403

Craig76

Cheers. They are now on my wish list.

Hail Hail.

Mike in Toronto

Ronny Deila has his NYCFC into the MLS Finals after beating Philly in the semi-final last night.

Should be pointed out that Philly were missing 11 players – including 5 starters – due to Covid protocols. Game could not be postposed as cup final is scheduled for next weekend, so Philly were a bit unfortunate, and put up a good fight in spite og being short handed.

But, still pleased for RD.

big packy

thanks ghuys and ghals, wee joan is humbled and says thanks very much, unlike me she is shy 👍😎😎

big packy

anybody fancy a true story😎

Big Packy

Go for it.

Margaret McGill

They’ve looked at Kyogo’s goal at every angle since Thursday that they have become disorientated. True story BTW.

big packy

well im going to tell it anyway, coming out of the club i was playing in liverpool i lived in anfield at the time which was close to the city centre, i always got a taxi home only a few miles from my flat it was 21 lower breck road anfield,,anyway flagged down this hackney cab and said lower breck road please ,after about 15 minutes i thought i dont recognise any of these buildings, driver says where about in warbreck road do you want to go, FFS warbreck road is in kirkby, john conteh territory😎 driver i said lower breck road, oh sorry your accent had me baffled, anyway he eventually took me home to lower breck rd and did not charge me any extra, another true story😎😎,FFS does warbreck road sound like lower breck road.😎

Big Packy

😀

jimthetim53

Packy, you have one of those Coatbridge accents. I have some sympathy for the taxi driver!
I can hardly understand Ayrshur.

Auldheid

ATOB

I think you and others mentioned John Reid and I dug out his position on The Famine Song at 2008 AGM. He was never a favourite of the GB. The one I remember though ended with “those days have gone” and came after The Dougie Dougie fiasco.

John Reid’s Statement at Celtic AGM 2008

Q. Why did you decide to speak out about ‘The Famine Song’ and is it important that the club make sure that our supporters protect the integrity of Celtic’s name?

A. I spoke out about it because this is a pretty vile song and I don’t think that any reasonable person who has read the words of this song can see it as anything other than a pretty vicious, racist song. It combines racism and sectarianism and goes beyond a lot of other things that we have seen in the past. That’s one of the reasons why I spoke out and I also come from Irish and Scottish descent myself, so that’s the main reason.

But there is a bigger and wider reason as well and that is, the nature of this club. We are proud of the fact that we have Scottish origins and Irish heritage and we are never going to deny that. We will defend that and that is not a cause for shame, it’s a cause for recognition and celebration. Indeed our very name ‘Celtic’ is about the unity of the Scottish and Irish people. It stands against those who would divide, discriminate and oppose those two entities. And because we start from that basis of the unity of peoples then we have always been open and inclusive as a club.

That’s why traditionally we have never discriminated. That’s why our board, our shareholders, our footballers and our footballing heroes come from all sorts of different backgrounds, religions, ethnic groups and do so internationally. That’s why I said last year that whatever differences we have when we come into this club we leave them at the door because we believe truly, in a Scotland that is one bit of many cultures and is way beyond now being Scots and Irish. That is our stance, therefore we have to speak out when we see racism or sectarianism being practised and of course, if we are going to do that we have to practise what we preach.

We have to be careful, from our own point of view and that’s why I am absolutely delighted that our fans in recent years have had accolades from the world football authorities, from the European football authorities and let me say when I point out that there may be a minority who are transgressing our own rules, that they are our own rules.
I don’t know any Celtic fans who have been chanting racist slogans or anything of that nature, so I am not comparing like with like here. But I am saying that we have got to be whiter than white and that we have to explain to and educate everybody at this club, including that tiny minority which at away games sometimes leaves us exposed to those who would attempt to say that we are all the same. We aren’t all the same, but we have to make sure that that is evident to everybody. That’s the nature of Celtic Football Club.

The Offensive Behaviour at Football Act that gave Police Scotland an excuse to batter in that FAC then opposed and helped get repealed is no longer on the statute books but the possible appointment of Higgins revives memories of wrongs that have not been acknowledged and so remain unforgiven.

big packy

JIM how dare you sir😎😎

bada bing1

Reports Butcher’s assault will possibly be referred,but we were told after Beaton refused to red card Fat Charlie 3 times,that it couldn’t be done? Making it up as usual

big packy

MAGUA,😎👍

Auldheid

ATOB/Others

Got this from Celtic WIKI on John Reid and referees.

Celtic call for referee to resign By Chris McLaughlin (BBC),
18 Nov 2010

Celtic chairman John Reid is calling for the resignation of referee Dougie McDonald as well as a complete review of the Scottish Football Association.

McDonald was warned by the governing body after lying about his reasons for overturning a penalty award.

“If the SFA had any sense of their own integrity, they should look at it again,” said Dr Reid.

“His position is completely untenable. The SFA’s position on this issue is also untenable.”

McDonald had told Celtic manager Neil Lennon that he had overturned his decision to award them a penalty against Dundee United because he was alerted to the mistake by his assistant, Steven Craven.
Tony Mowbray’s appointment was a mistake and I ultimately take responsibility for that
Celtic chairman John Reid

But the referee later admitted that he had simply realised his own error and the row that followed led to Craven’s resignation and an investigation by the SFA that reprimanded McDonald.
It led to a meeting between Celtic chief executive Peter Lawwell and his SFA counterpart, Stewart Regan, who had already promised an overhaul of the refereeing system.

Reid, addressing around 200 shareholders at the Glasgow club’s annual meeting, said “bold, radical action” must be taken to combat “stories of lies, conspiracies and cover-ups” within Scottish football.

“We’re not asking for special treatment, but neither will we be treated as less than anyone else,” he said. “Those days are gone.”

Reid, who also thinks video technology should be used to help officials make decisions, backed

“Maybe Peter Wishart’s proposals about referees declaring their allegiances should be considered as part of the process,” said Reid.
Celtic had also written to the SFA seeking clarification over a spot-kick awarded against them by referee Willie Collum in their defeat by Rangers.

And, despite criticism from some quarters that Celtic were putting undue pressure on officials, Lawwell defended his club’s stance to shareholders.
“We lost the league last year because we weren’t good enough, but we reserve the right to query decisions,” he said. “It’s not sour grapes or paranoia.

“Stewart Regan has promised us a full review of referee procedures. But, not just that, a full review of the SFA as a whole.”

Lawwell saw a brighter future for the club under the present team management, led by Lennon, who took over after the sacking of Tony Mowbray. “Last year on the pitch was clearly unacceptable,” said the chief executive.

“We have a new, young, vibrant managerial team led by Neil Lennon that will be here for a very long time.”

Meanwhile, Reid shouldered the blame for the appointment of Mowbray, the former Celtic defender who was previously with West Brom and has recently taken charge of Middlesbrough.

“We got off to a false start under Mowbray,” said the chairman. “But we managed to avoid some of the catastrophic financial failures that others fell into.

“Tony Mowbray’s appointment was a mistake and I ultimately take responsibility for that.”

Story from BBC SPORT:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/sport1/hi/football/teams/c/celtic/9206945.stm

Published: 2010/11/18 16:36:19 GMT

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