Tackling Problems From The Wrong End?

Morning,all.

Late on parade again! I read an article by Martin Samuel in The Daily Mail-aye,I know!-which was adapted from an interview with Wayne Rooney. In it,he admitted to some human foibles,including turning to the booze when the pressure got too much for him and also to deliberately trying to injure an opponent.

Now I have little sympathy for him re the former. Alcohol is meant to be enjoyed,not to be used as a crutch. I freely admit to enjoying the stuff,but one of the benefits of a driving job is that it imposes its own limitations on your intake. I often see people completely out of their face in Swindon and elsewhere,but very rarely indeed when I look in a mirror. Mind you,it’s not for health reasons nor even for appearance’s sake,merely down to the job. And for that,I am always grateful. Re the latter though? I have enormous sympathy.

In football,retaliation is generally treated more severely than the original challenge. The legal system follows the same approach. If someone punches you in the mouth and you boot him severely where it hurts,the old maxim of “Well,he started it!” just won’t wash. And it is even less likely to work if your boot to the hawmaws arrives at a later date.

Wayne decided he was fed up being kicked and worse all over the pitch by a certain opponent,and that this time he was gonna get his retaliation in early! The opponent was his England team-mate John Terry,apparently-which means of course that I have even more sympathy for Wayne! In fact,given Terry’s character,and his reputation inside and outside of the job,he could probably have crowdfunded the attempt and paid off The National Debt.

But he didn’t. He kept it quiet,just went out and did it. Same as his former team-mate did to Alfe-Inge Haaland all those years ago. Frankly,that effort by Roy Keane was appalling,but his reasoning was sound. Roy had suffered a dreadful injury on the field ,and Haaland shouted,screamed,that he was faking injury. He wasn’t. And neither was Haaland,first chance Roy got.

I’m surprised he didn’t get a six month ban for that one,to be honest. But he only admitted to the whole background to it in his “autobiography” after he had retired. The football authorities were powerless to act,outside of a £150,000 fine. Or a good night out,in Campbell Ogilvie land. Rooney however is still in the game as manager of Derby County,where his efforts to save them from relegation-which by the way are crucial to saving them from liquidation-should in my opinion be rewarded by Manager of the Year. The interview and the timing of it were severely ill-advised,and there may be consequences for Derby County if Rooney is banned from football for even a month or two.

But the main reason for writing this article is actually Rooney’s weapon of choice,and it is a subject I’ve often raised-funnily enough,in the pub with my mates! His weapon was football studs. Metal ones,and as long as were permitted under the laws of the game. You’ll need to ask SOLKITTS about that,because I don’t know the regulations. But I do remember a colleague at work-Kim from Belfast,about thirty years ago-who dumped another colleague after a few dates because she “thought he was a stud,more like a football stud!”

I wouldn’t take a burst pay packet back to Kim,but she will have been pleasantly surprised that football studs come in the large size too. But why are they still allowed in the modern game? 1979,Celtic were playing games every two days or so to make up for all the cancellations,and Saltires has been regaling us with the stories from a century before and the same problems. They are largely gone now,with the introduction of mandatory undersoil heating. So has pushing the goalkeeper into the net to claim a goal,andeven the tackle from behind. (Scotland was the last major Association to ban it,and quite recently. See if you can guess why)

Safety is paramount in every aspect of life nowadays. No new task should be undertaken without a risk assessment. Try climbing a ladder without safety gear and a hard hat. Sky installers dress up as mountain climbers tackling the North Face of the Eiger!

Footballers are still allowed to wear pieces of metal attached to their boots,which concentrate the momentum put into tackles into a few very small areas. And being relatively small and sharp-compared to being tackled with a flat sole which would spread the impact,they are very capable indeed of causing all sorts of injury. Ask George McCluskey,whose leg was opened up by a flick of the boot from Graeme Souness. Or Alf-Inge Haaland. Any number of footballers,at all levels. And they are unnecessary nowadays with the improvement in pitches.

But wait,what about the Sunday League players,the grass-roots who play on pitches which still resemble those in 1979 or even from the SALTIRES EN SEVILLA articles? Well,the answer to that is not the patented Yogi Hughes pair of sannies,it is close though. Moulded football studs will still grip when a twelve stone man or even a ten stone woman is planting his and her feet in the turf. They are vastly improved from my days when they were barely millimetres long and provided nothing,like wearing ice skates. But the important thing is that the GIVE upon impact,like catseyes when you run over them. They are laid on a rubber pad which absorbs the impact when you drive a 32-ton tanker over them. They can sure as hell absorb the impact from ten or twelve stone of footballer.

Football safety has been under the spotlight in recent years because of the long-term problems caused by heading the ball. The game has lost some genuine legends to health issues likely to have been caused by what is really an intrinsic part of the game, Yet,the authorities have taken the decision in many countries that it is NOT an intrinsic part of the game,and actively penalise it in youth games. I’m not sure that the damage occurs at an early age any more than in a player’s peak years,so it may be lip service. American Football is also trying to reduce impact injuries,while rugby is getting its knickers in a twist,with players getting bigger and faster,and much stronger. I think there may be fatalities from collisions in the game shortly,but it is a game which is almost impossible to adapt,being perhaps the most physical of all field sports. You cannot avoid contact in rugby and we can hardly handicap the players,like in horse racing,with ten pounds of lead.

You don’t want that hitting you when you go into a tackle!

But football is alive to the problems that playing the game causes. Even if they are being reactive and indeed protective of the past,with a refusal to admit that there was culpability. Indeed there properly wasn’t,as it is materials science which has improved that aspect of safety. Hardly fair to blame someone for using tools that weren’t available at the time,is it?

Anyone remember heading a laced up ball? It only hurt when you headed the laces? Probably not-but you weren’t aware of it at the time,it caused the same damage internally EVERY time it impacted you. But they are gone.

Anyone remember playing with a ball which didn’t have enough Dubbin on it,or even any? A rainy day and it was getting hit with a sledgehammer. The ball comes across,you rise majestically to divert it towards goal-and the bliddy thing damn near knocks you out while barely deviating on its trajectory.

All of these things are now belatedly acknowledged in the game,and have actively been worked upon for years. Of course it is too late for our heroes,but we have to accept that,and the pleasure they got from simply playing for us.

But there is still that problem that everyone is looking upstairs for the answers,to show that they care. That head and brain injuries will be a thing of the past.

But more damage is done by the feet,and there is a simple solution. Even if you don’t like it,or if players take time to adapt,fall on their arse on occasion. Studs are a problem which has to be resolved.

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Above article by BMCUWP

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Saltires en Sevilla
February 11, 2022 9:57 am

Bobby

Top fitba blogging buddy

We were told, never retaliate!

Get yer retaliation in first …and that worked most of the time. When it didn’t yer tea was oot anyway.

Knowing when you met yer match was a life skill we all had to learn early

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 10:02 am

BIGRAILROADBLUES

Mail me please on

bmcuwp@gmail.com

I’ll give you my phone number,we can discuss Belfast.

MAHE is bringing his wife and daughter,so I’m hoping that Mrs MAHE will attend. Hoping my sisters will too,as they love the place. I know a few people who intend to bring the WAGS-!-and have done so before. We can send them to M&S and the AVOCA for a decent scone and coffee while we are drinking the place dry. More likely they will join us for the fun.

And trying to get a taxi to The Falls for The Rock and Felons from the nearest pub to the hotel next to the station. That’s a laugh,never doing that again. They’re in Sandy Row!

Honestly,you find a taxi,tell him where you are going,he says “Sure,go get your mates”-and effs off! Took me a while to figure it out anaw…

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 10:08 am

Oh aye. Don’t book a hotel and pay the extra for breakfast. Harlem is about 200 yds away. Their breakfast fills you up for the day,or at least until it’s time for a scone! £7.50 last time I was there,could have choked an elephant.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 10:46 am

SALTIRES

It sure was,and especially in Kilwinning!

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 11:53 am

ATOB @ 10.48, 10/2

“As someone who is constantly berated by the gombeen man for saying the word Hun.”

(I’m answering generally not personally here.)

As soon as a generalised label is used, the debate is lost.

It’s really that simple.

Celtic supporters identify themselves as Tims and yet take offence at the term Taigs. When in reality both words mean the same thing.

(Tadgh is Timothy in the old language.)

This name-calling is really is the product of school playground level maturity.

It’s transparently hypocritical for Celtic Supporters to point any finger, while supporting any toxic Empire : The Roman Catholic Church or Britain, being two prime examples.

Both are responsible for immeasurable suffering.

Given the facts about Rome and London. It would be unfair to suggest that every Catholic or Englishman were complicit.

That’s why generalisations don’t work.

Personally, I have no interest in John Major, Boris Johnson, the decline of English Towns or the BBC.

Celtic always offered an escape from the jaundiced opinions of The Daily Mail mindset and the British media.

From my perspective the behaviour of Boris is the business of England. A foreign State. I’ve more interest in the day to day happenings Anchorage than London or it’s surroundings.

Speaking about English brutality in Ireland, Michael D Higgins put it succinctly in September of 2020…

“ideological assumptions, of superiority and inferiority in terms of race, culture or capacity, in the notion of the collective as a disloyal, hopeless or threatening version of the ‘other.”

The rub is – that it works both ways.

That’s why some introspection about the validity of our own beliefs and programming is required. Before naively exposing our own insecurities and hypocrisy when posting generalised assumptions about Huns.

It might well be the case that much of our own conditioning is infact ‘Hunnish’ and a recalibration of perspectives is in order.

In short, every opinion and conclusion is worth questioning.

That process would include Dublin.

Many of us are the product of a British, Roman Catholic education. Every issue is seen through the indoctrination of that subtle filtering.

It might well be the case that what we’re taking offence at in ‘the other’ (the Hun) is partly a reaction to our unease with our own prejudices and conditioning?

And maybe too, our own failures and perceived shortcomings, might include our dishonesty and failure to call out and act in response to all those years of cheating and complicity at Celtic Park?

Perhaps also our possible tendency to look the other way, rationalise and justify things at Celtic that are just too uncomfortable to acknowledge?

Unfortunately, it will be a matter of historical fact that many Celtic supporters ignored the facts and bought into the misery of Old Firmisim.

No flashy editorial or podcast can camouflage that reality. Celtic supporters were sold a pup. The exciting league challenge has no credibility. It’s a myth. We all know it and yet so many are hooked by the kick of Old Firmisim.

That’s why match reports and new signings seem so hollow and without substance. We’ve all seen this movie before.

To put it frankly we all know this is a fantasy, completely without substance. To sign up as an Old Firm Supporter really requires a suspension of all common sense before engaging with it.

I suppose all of those generations of conditioning and lies by leaders, politicians and clergy is a lot of crap to be carrying around.

We can’t blame ‘the other’ forever. Celtic supporters are not standing on any kind of a moral platform or firm ground.

We are willing partners in the noxious Old Firm. Hiding behind not only an incomplete appreciation of Ireland but completely unaware of Ireland currently is.

The aspirations of Ireland reflect the sentiment of the Proclamation of Easter Week. There’s no place for sectarianism or any form of British inspired divisive Hate Speech.

The reality is they’ve made us all Huns.

We’re reduced to the indignation of posting anonymous Tweets and a few precious but unconvincing moments of freedom listening to the Rebs in the wee small hours.

Celtic do not represent any Cause. It’s an illusion. The use of labels like Hun and the plagiarism of Rebel songs by supporters of the Old Firm is a tragedy.

Peter and Dermot have given Sky what they want by resurrecting the Old Firm. It’s remarkable how easily conned folk are.

The only thing in common that the heroes and villains of yesterday share, is the graveyard.

If you’ve bought into the Old Firm that’s your business. Just don’t associate your decision with any form of moral higher ground by pointing the finger at perceived failings elsewhere.

Celtic have made their bed.

We have no right to refer to anyone as Huns. It’s use reeks of hypocrisy.

For centuries Ireland was occupied by a predominantly English culture. When they left the 26 Counties, they took their sectarian hate speech with them.

I don’t berate. The use of these labels is a reflection of the attempted genocide of a nation.

That’s why I dumped the label.

Bada Bing
February 11, 2022 11:59 am

BMCUW- what’s the Belfast dates?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 12:00 pm

Talking about Sky installers,when I worked there from 1998-2001,they suddenly clamped down on H&S mainly to clear the decks,as they had taken on too many. Saves on notice period and redundancy.

I was at a house in Kilwinning one day,a job for a mate who was too bloody shy to ask me to do it for nothing! Most people in Kilwinning weren’t that shy,btw. And he needed it done ASAP,he was off to work shortly. Natch,I told him I’d drive him there. No panic.

Well,I’m on a ladder above his porch where the dish was-and I saw my new boss Pete driving in to the car park! He was The Grim Reaper,sacked loads of installers for H&S breaches. I was okay,I’d been there for over two years and unfair dismissal process was available. But not if I wasn’t using my H&S equipment!

So I asked Davie to nip out and grab my hard hat from the back of the van while I sat on his porch,then to say that the reason I wasn’t using the mandatory ladder stabiliser was that he was footing it.

Pete? His first words were-“Keys,please. You’ll hear from personnel inside an hour”

I suggested he ask the client about the incident,who backed me up. And with no smartphones with cameras,and me actually having that hard hat on top of the porch,my mate backing me up that he had footed the ladder,Pete was screwed. Didn’t stop him trying though. Four disciplinaries I went through with them,winning them all. The fifth one pissed me off. We were on Saltcoats High Road to pick up our manifest and equipment,I had nothing. My hun from Stewarton underboss told me that it was because I had another disciplinary,and this time they had me.

This time they didn’t-I did the initial install,but the complaint related to additional stuff by another installer. Putting the system into a bedroom and not using duck boards to access it. So I looked at Fat Boab fae Stewarton,told him I was fed up with this and suggested he look down from The High Road to the coast,and particularly what was left of ICI.

My Dad was the top union guy there for nearly three decades,mate. I’ve had enough of this,I’m bringing out the artillery. Name your weapon of choice and place of your choice. I’ve beaten you on my own so far,and there might have been cause to discipline me before. Not this time,it is victimisation.

My Dad had been retired from work by this time for about six years,but still the top Bhoy in the union. He was very sceptical about my thoughts on the case-parents are worse than coppers!-but we scouted out the home which gave raise to the claim. No way I could have done that,as no equipment was even issued to me on that day at all-I was on holiday!

We were nearly at the venue,The Fenwick Hotel,when Sky called to cancel. I think my Dad scared the shit out of them. He used to do that with Sir John Harvey-Jones down in London,which Sir John told me himself. Strangely,he can handle the biggest and the best,but still has to bow to his wife and daughters. I don’t blame him,they scare me more than any bosses or disciplinaries. Much as I love them.

But one day,Pete decided to “shadow” me for a day. That means he sits in my vehicle all day except when he is watching me work-and checking for any violations! So instead of being defensive or nasty to him-because what he was doing was very nasty!-I asked him why he did it.

How could he drive around the country,unannounced,looking to sack people. I’m a single bloke,I can cope,but a guy with two kids and a mortgage? Why would anyone do that?

His answer-“I’ve got a kid dying from kidney disease,on dialysis,and if I lose this job,I lose my son.”

How do you answer that one,eh?

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 12:01 pm

BADABING

First weekend in June,when MAHE and his family are over. I think it is a long weekend,so we can raise a toast to Her Maj!

Bada Bing
February 11, 2022 12:13 pm

Cheers M

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 12:20 pm

THEGOMBEENMAN

I don’t take personal offence at any of the pejoratives wildly thrown about at us,CGAF,tbh. My Dad does though. He really hates being called a Fenian Bastard. Gets right to him,and for all his age,you don’t want to do that.

I was in The Vic in Kilwinning after we had beat the huns 3-1,LC SF 2001,my Dad and I had a great night before during and after the match. Decent seats too for a change. I was sitting with my mates,my Dad was up at the bar talking to some friends plus the owner,Andy. Next thing,this eejit went ballistic,claiming my Dad had kissed the Celtic badge on his jersey. Everyone else there said naw,so I grabbed this bloody huge guy and kicked him out. Literally.

Andy said-careful,Mick-he’s a bouncer.

My reply,I’ll bounce his heid on the way out,expletive deleted.

He came in the following day and apologised. There might be bad behaviour in Kilwinning,but most of us know how to put our hands up. And that it is the best way out anyway.

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 1:12 pm

BMCUWPS,

Don’t you just think it’s all Fake?

All this new hype, just feels empty. As if the young ones are just going through the motions. Making statements, banners etc.

It just feels fake.

Exciting Old Firm back, blah blah blah. The embarrassment of Kris Boyd offering expert analysis.

Who are they trying to kid?

Such nonsense.

There’s still bampots of course. Too much drink on occasion organised stuff sometimes too.

The Rebel Songs don’t seem to have the same belief they once had? Sometimes when they start belting out the auld tunes ad nauseam at Pittodrie. It just seems irrelevant.

Maybe that’s just me. Possibly after all the years of being misled and last Season’s debacle.

It just lacks the trust and belief that Celtic once had.

The cat’s out the bag.

Not so of course for the Six Counties but with everyday that demographic gets closer.

It’s important as that day approaches (from a United Ireland perspective) that as many of the apprehensions of the past are left behind.

That’s the case in the South too. Folk need to know that they’re not taking on something that’s beyond a solution.

That’s what’s driving the antagonism behind the OF hate speech.It’s not personal. It’s really about building a better future on the Island.

That might not suit the PLC Old Firmism but their dishonesty has to be be called out.

Many have put in plenty of hardwork to create a unified Ireland. There’s a few that make a lot of money and gain status from the divisions.

The days of hyping things up and living of the misery of others have to come to an end.

As they say in Glasgow, it’s a load of pish.

Unfortunately parts of Scotland haven’t yet seen the benefit of leaving the past behind.

That would include the Establishment, including political parties, police, courts and media.

Dermot and Co might have to concentrate on attracting Customers through the quality of the football.

Anyhow,

Fair play for looking after your Dad.

I was chatting to him recently here about Kilwinning being the Mother Lodge. Number, 01 or something.

It really is a shame that he has to put up with such nonsense.

The last couple of years have been tough with the Covid. I’m really happy he’s got something to cheer about.

That’s the ongoing dilema we all have.

Keeping that sense of community but not being taken for a ride.

It’s not easy, especially with such an apparent lack of vision and guts at every level of the Establishment.

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 1:15 pm

BMCUWPS,

Rather than that big ramble.
What I should have said…

‘They’re not Rangers anymore. It’s not the same. No matter how it’s dressed up.’

Fake.

Till Later.

Sol Kitts
February 11, 2022 1:59 pm

TGM
I grew up in Ardrossan, went to the local Academy which was non denominational, and I can confirm that a sizeable majority of my schoolmates were huns. Not simply Rangers fans, huns. Their raison d’etre was first and foremost a hatred of anything Catholic, or Irish, or worse still both. Made me sick listening to their bile on a daily basis. The easiest thing to do there would have been to let myself join in, but I don’t do easy when doing right is available.
For me, it’s not people I call huns, it’s the behaviour, the attitude, the superiority complex of people who have made nothing of their lives but still believe they are the chosen ones. Chosen for what? Stupidity and irrational anger?
How I wish our board had hastened their extinction in 2012 by throwing them an anchor instead of the 5 way stitch up lifebelt. Scottish football was a better place without them in the top league, and Scotland might have had a chance to outgrow the attitudes I endured as a youngster had they just let that rancid club die.

Bada Bing
February 11, 2022 2:15 pm

Embdae know current Covid restrictions, pal flying to Dublin on Sunday, ta

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 2:46 pm

Bada COVID-19 restrictions in Ireland 🇮🇪

On 21 January 2022, the Government announced a plan for easing COVID-19 restrictions.

From 6am on 22 January 2022:

Pubs and restaurants can return to normal opening times (no longer must close at 8pm)
Nightclubs can reopen
You no longer need a vaccination or recovery certificate to access hospitality or indoor activities
Social distancing is no longer required in hospitality or other settings
Restrictions on numbers attending indoor and outdoor events or activities no longer apply
Limits on household visits no longer apply
From 24 January 2022, a phased return to offices can begin.

Remaining restrictions
The following restrictions remain in place until 28 February 2022:

Requirement of a vaccination or recovery certificate for international travel
Use of face coverings to continue where currently required (for example, in shops and on public transport)

Bada Bing
February 11, 2022 3:27 pm

Thanks G HH

Mahe
February 11, 2022 3:46 pm

McCaff et al,
The mancave I’ve just built
https://photos.app.goo.gl/U1Gqnbu4WTZu5gfU9

big packy
February 11, 2022 4:01 pm

AFTERNOON ALL and JIM , TGM agree about the old firm, there is none, the famous glesga rangers are deid, now we have the infamous glesga rainjurs, another true story😎

big packy
February 11, 2022 4:06 pm

did you know jeff bezos the founder of amazons father used to work in a circus on the unicycle, another piece of stupid trivia😎

big packy
February 11, 2022 4:09 pm

FFS, how long does it take to pot the black,😎

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Sol Kitts,

From Michael D Higgins on September of 2020,

“The Scottish philosopher David Hume writes in his History of England: “The Irish from the beginning of time had been buried in the most profound barbarianism and ignorance; and as they were never conquered, even, indeed, by the Romans from whom all the Western world derives its culture, they continued still in the most rude state of society and were distinguished by those vices to which human nature, not tamed by education, nor restrained by laws, is for ever subject.”

“Indeed, a century later, Winston Churchill would write, ‘We have always found the Irish to be a bit odd. They refuse to be English’. The ‘othering’ of Irish people and their culture was undeniably ingrained at all levels of British society.”

From my own perspective, the imposition of Religion has exacerbated those prejudices. Roman Catholicism sought to tame ‘those vices’ of the Irish.

This was intensified by the Reformation.

The seeming intolerance at all levels of Scottish society has it’s roots in the thinking illustrated by David Hume.

Let’s not forget that many parts of Scotland were Cleared. Unfortunately Scottish society has a problem with the Irish. There’s no point in masking that. Sometimes it’s blatant other times it’s much more subtle.

Deconditioning and reprogramming of the Scottish mindset will be a lengthy task.

Old Firmisim, Freemasonry, Religion are all parts of the problem, imo.

Sadly, Celtic PLC, profit from those old divisions and prejudices.

The Club and it’s part in Old Firmisim are a problem, not only for the diaspora but Scotland’s development.

From an Irish perspective there isn’t much antagonism against the Scots. For the most part the Scots have been allies. Religious differences aren’t seen as any barrier.

Rangers are seen as an irrelevance. Very few in the ROI gave them any thought.

Believe it or not, there’s sometimes an underlying anti-Irish/pro British agenda among Celtic supporters.

It’s probably unconscious and the result of conditioning by the British media and education system.

At times, many in the UK seem completely oblivious to their ingrained Hume and Churchill like prejudice.

In Ireland, England were/are seen as the main culprit.

I watched a television programme recently, a young woman referred to the English as “the oppressor.” It came out of the blue, quite surprising. She wasn’t a politician, just an ordinary person.

That said, there’s no real anger.

More of just wanting to be Irish without English/(any) Church interference.

Much of Ireland was Cleared too. Different folk fought on different sides. Families intermarried. Many left the country. Many Irish fought with the British. At one time 30/40% of the British Army were Irish.
Many Irish worked for the British at home and abroad.

Very few hold any grudges. Nobody here wants to live in a divided, racist society. 800 years of that was long enough.

Hate Speech is a subtle and calculating weapon. It reveals an enslaved mind. Those kids in Adrossan were polluted by fear based hate.

By succumbing to the temptation to label and react, the danger is that we become prisoners of the same mindset.

Change can and does happen. Scotland isn’t a lost cause. No doubt many improvements have already happened.

In Ireland there’s now a coalition government represented by the two opposite sides in the brutal Civil War, of 100 years ago.
Even in my time here of 25 years, there’s been remarkable change, not just in the North but also in the whole social fabric of the South.

The Garda Commissioner is ex-PSNI, he’s also recruited senior officers from the North to Dublin. There’s been very little dissent. If he does a decent job, nobody seems to mind.

That kind of thing was unthinkable even at the Millennium.

Fair play for your ability to see through the prejudices that were at play in your school experiences.

It’s very easy to get caught up in all of that and very difficult to get out.

You’ve retained that spirit, you always display consideration for others in your posts.

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 4:14 pm

Cheers Packy,

You’ve summed it up😎

Mahe
February 11, 2022 4:32 pm

Bobby,
Quality writing Sir. Unaware of the Wazza news, but I could read and listen to Martin Samuel all day and night, he’s quality and a fountain of football knowledge indeed.
I wouldn’t get your hopes up about meeting the lassies, that’s their only free weekend there but we shall see.

TGM,
Loving your contribution. It’s as fake as a nine pound note but provides quality (these days) entertainment that is legal. As such I fully understand those partaking.
Everyone needs an outlet or a passion of some sorts, there’s a lot worse than indulging a football club if truth be told.
I think many of the support realize this, many of the older support anyways, that there is no cause other than profit alongside the element of entertainment.
The club itself propogate the cause myth,,a cause a culture a calling.
I hated that slogan and still do.
But advertising aimed to exploit is everywhere, it’s not surprising the board go down that route.

I guess all I can hope for is better governance and scruples after the last decades events, Auldheid’s efforts may well have helped push that forward, but as he often says we shall see.
The Ibrox club going bust again would be a delishous tragedy, that would once again test the club and it’s support and perhaps become a pivotal moment in reconstructing Scottish football.
Then again, given the desire for a rivalry, the next death may also be swept under the carpet with an ‘as you were’ get out of jail card passed along.
In that event the national sport would join the ranks of wrestling, there to be watched and enjoyed but dont believe everything you see.

I suspect unofficially everyone involved accepts that debt and/or mystery cash is neccessary in order to keep the rivalry alive, one strong one weak leads to boring thrashings regularly which sells less than two big rivals fighting it out.
That just can’t happen.
So no FFP then for the common good, many teams piggyback their existence off the OF rivalry and need the SKY pittance.
However when this debt costs the nation a quarter billion and faith in the judicial system, it’s clearly a step too far.
In my book anyway, it’s for others to decide if they shall endorse.

Alba produces cracking footballers, always has. Young Master Tierney linked with Real Madrid this morning for instance.
The nation deserves a true and proper footballing setup to help showcase it’s many talents.
It really does.

Happy day of Frig from a stunningly beautiful central California in the grip of drought.

Hail Hail

big packy
February 11, 2022 5:18 pm

FRODSHAMBHOY, if your lurking was in frodsham again this morning, work related this time, wee joan grooms phils dog who owns the four seasons chippy, im sure you know it, picked the dog up at 10, brought it back at 12, the chippy was open ,phil said whatever you want its on the house 3 fish strips and 3 potato scallops/ fritters, lubbly jubbly. another true story,😎 hope your getting a good tan👍

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 5:46 pm

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-tees-60289972?at_medium=RSS&at_campaign=KARANGA Hartlepool boss praises Crystal Palace fans for wife’s cancer care cash 👏👏👏👏👏

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 5:49 pm

Cheers Mahe,

Enjoy your weekend. Superbowl on Sunday?

Edinburgh are in Dublin to play Leinster. Freezing and windy here today.

There were five red cards in last weekends in the Armagh v Tyrone game. So plenty of entertainment without the manipulation of the Old Firm.

Belfast Celtic have quite a good line in merchandise, worth having a look?

Bohemians are bringing back their Bob Marley jersey. Garry would have loved it.

The Old Firm?

This lark is fake.

We know it’s fake.

Why give a monkey’s?

Because it’s the very type of exploitation that Connolly walked into the GPO to expose.

Enjoy your weekend.

Mahe
February 11, 2022 6:11 pm

TGM,
Belfast Celtic Mk2 is a profit venture by two local businessmen. As such I’ve no interest in them.
I once wanted to get involved with that club but not anymore. People over profit, not the other way about.

Babysitting during Superbowl, it’s a drive away in my home state for once.
The Rams shall emerge victorious. A team that moved city for more profit, leaving previous attendees in the lurch physically and emotionally.
Eff them and Derek Chauvin while I’m there 😉

Hail Hail

Mahe
February 11, 2022 6:15 pm

Bo’s got told to display Bob’s image starts at a quarter million, by his foundation that controls those rights. I don’t see how they shall make a profit in that case, if they do go ahead with production.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS
February 11, 2022 6:47 pm

SOLKITTS 159

Wow…

Our schools were just as bad,though I don’t remember it being a problem in Kilwinning as a very young kid. It was bloody obvious though when I moved to Ardrossan as an 8yo.

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 7:04 pm

Just finished ‘The Heretic’ by Liam McIlvanney his follow up book to ‘The Quaker’ set in 1975 Glasgow. Well worth a read 👍

The Gombeen Man
February 11, 2022 7:07 pm

Cheers Mahe,

I didn’t know that about Belfast Celtic.

If that’s the case, it’s a pity

It’s amazing how profiteers see an easy profit in misery.

Same old story I guess.

Exploitation of misery.

Mahe
February 11, 2022 7:37 pm

On the financials, WTF do we need 25million in the bank for?
52 million turnover,,half of Brendan’s yet the STs sold out in record time remember. Doing a great job my arse.

Sol Kitts
February 11, 2022 7:50 pm

Mahe
I believe they are 6 month figures.

Craig 76
February 11, 2022 7:51 pm

Wolves police have been getting lessons from their Scottish brothers

https://twitter.com/Tompage_49/status/1491901069823250435

big packy
February 11, 2022 8:18 pm

true story as its music night, when i moved down to liverpool 73/74, some of the guys who i knocked around with said lets go to bellvue in manchester, never heard of it, but was blown away, massive big fairground in the centre of manchester, no beaches anywhere near, the original theme park, these 2 songs were playing when we reached the gates, hope you enjoy,GNAGB, https://youtu.be/DX3o1O8ZsTw https://youtu.be/5wiF6b4rxno

BelmontBrian63
February 11, 2022 8:47 pm

Evening all,

A bit more of an insight of how our manager see’s football.

https://youtu.be/5coH6CQf1po

Nite all,

Brian

jimthetim53
February 11, 2022 9:25 pm

Packy, absolutely love that song & band. btw was in Belle Vue many, many times before it closed down. I loved Manchester.

DannyMac23
February 11, 2022 9:46 pm

Enjoyed the article BMCUWP

After Boyd’s inference of Sevco players targeting our captain and Stvs Raman kicking off his piece with Calum ACCUSING Boyd of using the wrong choice of words we have the Jota 3rd goal debate classed as controversial.Sevco v Hibs potential penalty controversial incident not worthy of screen time or debate.

We have to challenge the media coverage and their agenda.All I read is how Celtic are being assisted by the referees and linesmen when the contrary is true but the media focus is as we know against us.Subsequently when we return to league duty we know what to expect from the referees and the subsequent media coverage thereof.

We should not be a country mile near that mob in the league for all the reasons previously stated but Ange has put us in a position and heightened our expectations that we have the opportunity to take back our title.We have the manager,we have the players we have the desire but is it enough?

I despair that one of those hun loving criminal referees decides our fate and we have to accept defeat,cheated by not only their friends in black but the media outlets that play out to their demographic or decide not to show controversial incidents because the wider public could use a balanced analysis.

Point being we get robbed of a victory late in the season and it is perceived we have had more decisions given our way previously when that is not really the case not in our eyes but in those not viewing the overall picture.

Keep scoring goals,they can only disallow so many,just keep winning hoops.

Mahe
February 11, 2022 10:11 pm

Sol,
Aye they are six months. I expect another twenty million income the second half based on home gates and tv cup money, so about 72m annual turnover. That’s decent to average, especially compared with Brendan’s hundred million.
Bankier says we shall make a loss during the second half, I hope they dip into the piggy bank to even things up.
But even still, 25 in the bank seems excessive.

You know, I have a sneaky suspicion they will piggyback of the renewed passion from Ange’s team and hike the STs up a bit. Everything’s going up, at least it seems that way.

Hail Hail

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 10:24 pm

All hell breaks out at the end of Porto v Sporting game 2-2 FT. Red cards a plenty

jimthetim53
February 11, 2022 10:54 pm

Mahe, A mancave! Really? That’s a sun shelter for a loving father and his wife and daughter! LOL 🙂

jimthetim53
February 11, 2022 11:26 pm

Hello?

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 11:34 pm

Mahe Yer mancave is about the size of my hoose ! 😜

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 11:38 pm

Mahe
February 11, 2022 11:41 pm

Jim,
Aye it’s really a shade room/bolt hole.
Hail Hail

Gordon64
February 11, 2022 11:46 pm

Have to say i felt for John McGlynn at the RR Presser yesterday