Job done but,,,
It’s not the first time the bigger team hasn’t fully shown up for lower league opposition, and it won’t be the last.
Who knows why,,
Not as motivated,,
Thinking they simply need show up?,,
Put off by an agricultural style and lax ref?
Big game on the horizon so slightly unfocused?
Who knows, but it happens.
It’s more upsetting than concerning that we needed a half time Ange rocket to pull the finger out. The lean, mean, ruthless machine was supposed to show up time after time and blow whoever we face away, or at least that’s how the dream vision was going.
Thursday’s looming fixture and the team changes left us not fully at the races,,yet we got the job done, so it wasn’t a waste. Ange will have learnt valuable lessons, again not a waste.
On one level that shows how far we’ve come, Lenny would have been delighted with four goals in a cup tie, performance be damned. Now we look for inspiring victories, not ground out results.
That is coming a long way indeed.
The manager will be the unhappiest of the lot, more than you or me. Some players blew a chance, another chance, maybe their big chance. There’s still work to be done, some aren’t cutting the mustard.
But some answer when opportunity knocks.
The squad still needs pruned.
Yesterday was an important step.
After the teams exertions they deserve credit so a 6 outta 10 must be overlooked. Two sub-par turnouts would be slightly worrying, orrying, three a trend, so one should be forgiven. It’s been a big month for this squad, they have much bigger fish to fry than the Scottish Cup, nice as it always is. I’ll easily cut some slack.
That our never played together before team ended the day with four unanswered goals again shows how far we’ve come under our Greek Australian.
A big performance on Thursday would make most forget yesterday,, Ange won’t though. There’s a huge clash on the horizon, and make no mistake we can beat Bodo, it’s important everyone puts any lacklustre performance behind them and fully focus.
Other teams would love lacklustre victories, but other teams arent the world famous Glasgow Celtic.
Yep we’ve come a long way in a short time, and this week could see us go further still.
The ‘A’ Team shall be selected, and they usually put on a show on those big nights under the floodlights.
Another four would be just fine.
In Ange We Trust.
Garry Postecoglou certainly did.
Keep the faith.
Whatever was going on with the team yesterday Ange looked ( and sounded) more animated than usual.
Nevertheless, a 4-0 victory in any game is a bit of a doing. Emphatic.
The tactical & technical observer guys like Fan, Rebus, ATOB, McCaff .& Sol ….apologies if I’ve missed anyon… are adding great value to the site. For me it’s about reading the stuff I don’t see in games.
Learning all the time.
That pass from Hatate to Jota … the touch to bring it down and weight of pass to a grateful Gia … was one of the most satisfying moments this year, in terms of how I like to see us play football. Plus the Big Greek needed that boost … he really did. No time to think … just slot it away and a confident, graceful, side step of the ‘keeper to avoid being crunched.
Why did Jota make such a difference when he came on? Our starting wide players seemed not to offer much in the game and for me it’s all about them being unable to see the pass to others …played with the right weight. Either Jota is going to be an absolute superstar or we are comparing him to some very average footballers in a league/cup with below average opponents. If he can’t make his way for Benfica what quality they have keeping him out?
How far away are our homespun attacking players from the top clubs … and why is this?
The touch and shot from Scales was deadly … and he’s done it before from the same position. Yet, a few of us were expecting him to get the curly hook at halftime – sensing he wasn’t playing the role Ange requires.. not singling him out but noticed he wasn’t showing for the ball and leaving the CH stuck for options. On a few occasions he seemed to go into a run away from the play .. too early… almost before the move had developed. Leaving his teammates om that side exposed and Raith clamped them down.
Scales has the look of a modern footballer and hopefully Ange can coach him to play him into a disciplined team game.
Honestly cannot wait until Thursday – with the group of players at his disposal – huge expectations that we can play a brand of football that gets the blood racing.
Good to see Our big Frenchman back … we’ve had Big Shuggie from Iceland, is he Big Shruggy..
I’ll Get ma coat …
Good fun yesterday and your ongoing chats with Jim and Sol and Magua et al make me laugh
I do know you are the very best resident drummer we ever had … was just messing about… and hope you took that in the spirit it was intended.
Keep the 4/4 4/6 8/8 and those triplets and rolls going buddy
It was ten years ago today…
Unbelievably,Daily Record is running a number of articles on the administration without mentioning the l-word!
I’ve been heavily critical of MJ on here for a while now. He has so much talent,that much is clear,but his decision-making is shocking. I think that might be down to a desire to be noticed.
If so,it is working-but for the wrong reasons!
I thought he started very well yesterday,and thought to myself-is this the day that he gets his mojo back,gets the confidence to play himself into the managers’ plans? I mean,we all want him to succeed.
Sadly,no. Another false dawn. He must be beginning to despair,and I know the fans are. I hope for the best with him,but I fear the worst. And maybe he will have to go elsewhere to fulfill his potential.
Me,I still have an outside hope that he will come good. So I’d send him on loan first before making a decision. One thing is for sure,he isn’t doing it at Celtic,not at the moment.
Morning all and a very Happy Admin Day.
Hope everyone has a lovely day and enjoy themselves.
I thought very lacklustre first half yesterday but picked up when subs were introduced.
Sorry, but Mickey J and James Forrest are now passengers for me, and I can see neither fitting into the Ange set up.
Anyway, let’s move on to Thursday, get a full team out and blow away the opposition !!!!
Aye,some of the discussion on tactics and performances is top drawer,and a pleasure to read. A thousand percent better than the “analysis” we get from the various media outlets.
Very grateful for that,folks!
I’m sure the Daily Record will be waiting until Halloween before mentioning the L word, I Don’t believe for 1 second that they would pretend it never happened. 😀🤔
Of course,how silly of me.
By my reckoning we had 7 players “standing in” yesterday.
A full strength team includes:
JJ for AR, GT for LS, Mo’R for TR, Calmac for NB, and front three that replaced Ange’s original lineup.
Joe, CCV, Reo are givens. Starfelt on recent showings edges Welsh.
The positive I take is that we know , and more importantly Ange knows, the limitations of his squad as a dynamic interchangeable one.
It’s not quite there yet.
The weak areas are both wings, and a passive midfield. As you noted.
If one were brutal, the scouting department would be looking at alternatives to come in during the summer to bolster these areas.
Assuming the current incumbents can be moved on.
The full backs are worth retaining but need more coaching to perform their roles.
The Jullien cameo bolsters options at the back. Good to see Guchi make a return.
Kyogo and DT still to return further strengthens us.
My point is I guess we should look at moving on 4/5 to replace with squad upgrades.
There are obviously diamonds in the rough out there as the Japanese market and Matt o’ Riley prove.
CFC, I agree with your summary and would propose one more area we should have as a priority and that’s back up goalkeeper.
Hart is doing a great job but I’d be very worried if he was out for a number of weeks and we had to go with either Bain or Barkas.
CFC ,very good summary of our squad.
I also agree with CBB, re.goalkeeping area.
I hope Ange doesn’t do what has done in the past and keep players who are not good enough hanging about the squad for years.
Agree- Definitely need good back up in the goalkeeping position.
We already have Barkas, Ajeti, Soro as surplus.
If we add in the 4/5 that require an upgrade we’ve got work to do to shift the “ makeweights”.
Fine tuning I guess.
Paul Murray finishes talking about Craig Whyte with this sentence:
‘He had taken on a massive tax liability and as far as I could see there could only be one conclusion. Administration’
Now that ending needs added, Administration then liquidated😂
First post:BMCUWP Did you receive taxi numbers I sent you.
About our conversation regarding JF.
He has experience as you said last night so he should be in correct body position to receive a pass.
Maybe he was but not in our present system?
Players are coached into certain habits which work perfectly in some coaching systems but fail spectacularly in others.
Under BR and NL he often faced backwards to collect the pass then returned it to where it came from or made a square pass inside and stayed in same position
This does not work in Ange’s system where we tend to move the ball forward and quickly rotating positions.
Abada against The Rangers showed what Ange expects by mixing it up by attacking space on outside and inside after giving a pass.
Habits in senior players are difficult to break so i think JF will find it tough to become a vital player in Ange’s system.
Coutinho at Liverpool looked one of the worlds best yet failed spectacularly at Barcelona.
Both passing teams but while Liverpools quicker tempo suited ,Barcelona’s slower but more intricate style did not.
JF played his best football under BR and in season where Lennon took over his stats were good for goals and assists.
Under Neil his stats went downhill along with everyone else.
So far this season under Ange in 23 games he has 3 goals and 3 assists in approx 1,225 minutes.
Not a contribution for a forward that will impress the coach.
Ah, ’tis the day the banter died!
I’ve hardly spoke to a hun since 2012. I worked in a large call centre in Glasgow and after Admin Day the two camps separated completely. No mixing in the staff restaurant or at social events. I barely spoke to a hun between then and October 2016 when I took early retirement. And I virtually haven’t since.
In the early days they were humiliated and angry. Then the brainwashing set in. I actually witnessed two huns who had given £1700 to Sir Duped for a seat for life at Ibrox insisting it was the same club despite have received their “Dear John” letter from Ibrox advising them that the Liquidators would be in touch!
It was at that point I realised it would be utterly futile to try and discuss the matter with them – and I haven’t ever since!
We should all diary a reminder to send the club a 10th birthday card on 29th May 🙂
‘He had taken on a massive tax liability and as far as I could see there could only be one conclusion. Administration’ (Paul Murray)
What a stupid word for him to use – Conclusion! The administration was only the ‘Begining’ of a process.
It would almost be laughable how the media & the SFA etc treat this well documented piece of history if it wasn’t so pathetically corrupt.
Prestonpans Buoys and jimthetim53 – for ANY struggling business, going into administration can never be for an indefinite process. The administrators either save the business (by getting the majority of the creditors to accept a deal to write off X% of what they are owed) or they don’t, where liquidation then follows. Hearts, and others, managed to come out of administration and remain the same club. Rangers didn’t. HMRC, by far the largest creditor, refused to agree to writing off any of what we were owed. The administrators then had various ‘useless’ assets including the stadium, and sold these to Charlie Green, allowing him to start a new club, fast tracked into the 4th tier at the expense of The Spartans. The rest is history.
I think you summarised the situation very well. I do not think there is any doubt that Ange saw the limitations yesterday judging by the look on his face and his post match interview.
The January window revealed how difficult it will be to get rid of the also rans, such as Soro, Barkas. Some younger players such as MJ will be easier to move on because they will wish to establish their careers. However, the likes of Bitton, Forrest, Bain, I suspect will be happy to see out their contracts.
As Puff Puff said last night, we should think of where we were at the beginning of the season. We have come a long way in a shorter time than I imagined.
Whilst any manager needs capable backups, I think Ange’s style of football requires it more than most because of the physical demands on the players. I suspect, but do not know, that it is difficult to impossible to maintain success with his style with a squad of players for more than 2-3 seasons. He succeeded at Yokohama once in his tenure there. Also his success in Australia was around 2 seasons at club level. Why this is, I am not sure. Possibly, the squad burns out unless it is constantly refreshed. See Bielsa at Leeds currently as they skid down the EPL.
Don’t get me wrong, I love the current style of football, but wonder about its sustainability medium term. The latter may be harder than the rebuild.
By the way, yesterday I was saddened by the fate of MJ. I shall not comment on him anymore. He has enough on his plate.
This site has made me think more about the tactical side of the game than any other. I needed an education because I played such a long time ago in the W formation. The Brazilians were the innovators at that time with 424. I enjoy trying to figure out what both Celtic and our opponents are trying to do. Last season was very instructive on the effect that a manager can have on a squad. That season plus this one, shows the effect that a CEO can have on the squad.
It is -24 degrees here….i feel for the poor birds and animals. Have a good day and take in the wonders of life.
I’m no expert on administration or liquidation but this wee poem from one of my creative friends explains what happened in nice simple language.
Roses are red
Bluebells are blue
Had they survived
55 could be true
Hearts nearly died
But the fans rallied round
While their cousins from Govan
Were lowered into the ground
They are angry and spiteful
I don’t know why
Cause they were the ‘peepul’
Who let their club die
AFTERNOON ALL and JIM, saltires cheers pal but i cant take all the credit, jim writes my true stories for me and i just post them 🤩as regards the drumming ,even jim is a better drummer than me now, and if you hear him play the flugelhorn you will know why,🤩🤩 hope you are well pal👍
If you are in Ottawa stay safe.
From yesterday i’m not sure about JF, i noticed in the first half he had a couple of runs but the ball was not being delivered.
Thought the midfield passing was very poor and Rogic nowhere at the races.This is not to say that JF can play in Anges system just like James McCarthy a very good player but wrong system.
Big welcome fella. Aye, Bobby has history with those private hacks indeed.
So will it be war this week?
Happy ‘Liquidation Day’ Packy. 🙂
YES jim, the rangers are deid 👍 the new mob are the infamous glesga rainjurs 👍😎
Mahe, Putin comes accross like somebody straight out of the old – Cold War – Soviet era. Gorbachev was more forward looking in Soviet Russia!
JIM, putin is a dangerous man,
I hope this is wrong but my son works for a USA company in Glasgow and they are discussing an invasion on Wednesday!
His company are refusing all financial transactions with Russia or its nationals starting immediately. He said there is a real sense of tension in the office.
Aye but could Putin do it on a rainy Tuesday night in Perth? 😉
Happy day of the moon.
Hi Ho time
Ange not happy with the pass back to Hart yesterday
Tam sellic son (@TamsellicsonIII) Tweeted: https://t.co/47MOjkoCNP https://twitter.com/TamsellicsonIII/status/1492961018275848193?s=20&t=sxEidr52jGoTFtYe4FENsw
I personally am more than glad that Ange gave the players a rocket up the jacksie yesterday. That he shared this publicly, shows how seriously he feels about the situation.
Cheers for the wee song last night. 😀 Luke Kelly remains one of my favourite folk singers. The first time that I can remember hearing ‘Raglan Road’ was sometime in the 90s. A group of us from work decided to have a weekend in Oban. The owner of the B and B we stayed at played that song sung by Van The Man in collaboration with the Chieftens. Cannae mind the name of the album, but they also did a cracking version of ‘I’ll Tell Me Ma.’
I have to agree that 4-0 is a wee bit of a tanking. Call me old fashioned, but I much prefer the scoreline of 6-2, if we’re talking 4 goal differences.
Ah yes, Administration Day. Craig Whyte was duped big time by Sir David Murray who sold Craig Whyte a pup…or as it’s known these days, an ‘Aaron Ramsey.’ Murray is the only person responsible for the original Huns going into administration. His ego could not accept that Celtic had won the European Cup on that wonderful Thursday evening in Estoril on the 25th of May 1967. I may have mentioned this date once or twice before. I’m pretty sure that Big Packy has. Yip, SDM spent the Huns into administration and then oblivion, failing repeatedly, in a futile attempt to match Celtic’s wonderful feat…and fair play to the man for that.
Thank for the poem. I had a right good chuckle at it.
The ‘debentures’ argument has always been a clincher for me, when calmly debating the Administration/Liquidation events with ranting Huns. For some strange reason, the feckers get a wee bit upset when I point out this fact to them. They’re a strange bunch so they are. They simply cannot be reasoned with. 😀
MAGUA hope you are well pal.,,another true story👍
All is well here, BP. Still enjoying the Bhoys being top of the league. Long may it last. 😀
Can you imagine this song being No.1 in Russia?
Or in China?
Or in Hitler’s Germany?
See anything in common?
Look at the leaders.
At least in the civilised West our leaders are only muppets!
Soory,mate. Just up,and seen your post. Had a check through my folders and found it,no idea why it was in there. Very grateful for the info-for obvious reasons!-and hopefully will see you at some point over the weekend.
I was checking the flight prices at the weekend after a chat with BIGRAILROADBLUES and the cost is a lot higher than I remember,but heyho…
I was just looking to see if there are any Russian teams left in Europe. There is one – Zenit – who host Betis on Thursday. Two things spring to mind:
1 That could have been us! Betis pipped us by one point.
2 How can that game go ahead if Russia invade Ukraine any time before kick off???
Zenit should be thrown out if this invasion starts.
And welcome to the site,of course!
Don’t be a stranger…
St Petersburg is Putin’s home town. Throwing Zenit out would really piss him off!
During Stalin’s reign of terror in the 1930s they had a massive self inflicted famine and the Great Purge, countless innocent millions died. Meanwhile back in decadent America & Britain etc we were watching stuff like this:
I know where I would rather live!