130 years ago today – Cup Final (Replay) Special

ARTWORK Courtesy. ASWGL

The Celticwiki Folks always do an outstanding job on these occasions*:

1892-04-09: Celtic 5-1 Queen’s Park, Scottish Cup Final

Scottish Cup Final – (Replay)

Celtic’s first Scottish Cup title, and first major national honour

Celtic had previously won the Glasgow Cup, but the Scottish Cup in 1891 was a step above.

Win was against the then establishment club Queen’s Park.

Celtic win treble of Scottish Cup, Glasgow Cup and Glasgow Charity Cup. The first club to do so.

First final was voided even though Celtic had won it 1-0.

In the first final, Celtic won 1-0 thanks to a solitary goal scored by Johnny Campbell on the hour mark and, since the trophy was traditionally presented inside the pavilion, most of the 40,000 spectators left Ibrox assuming that the Bhoys had won the cup. However, Celtic united with Queen’s Park to make a joint protest insisting the match be replayed, a move which was upheld by the SFA. A Scottish Sport correspondent summed up the mood at the time, describing the now null and void match as: “the most remarkable event that has ever happened in the history of the Association game“.

Queen’s Park had actually taken the lead to half-time, then Celtic hammered their opponents.

The Scottish Sport set the scene, hailing the Spiders as ‘the premier club in Scotland‘ and describing Celtic as ‘the best combination of Irishmen that has ever been raised in Scotland, knitted together by an unquenchable desire to do honour to the Emerald Isle.‘

Review

*Note: a wee error, as this was The Team that played Final (void) on 12th. March and Johnny Madden was injured for replay. Peter Dowds/Douds stepped up to Centre Forward and he was replaced at left midfield by Patrick Gallacher.

The Celticwiki site has images of both Celtic teams: Above is the (replay) winning team on 9th April, 1892

A special day, as Celtic lifted the Scottish Cup, then seen as the premier trophy to win in Scottish sport.

Celtic’s victory had been as emphatic as it was significant but this was not reflected in the press of the time, betraying a wider unease at the emergence of this new force. The Scottish Referee, for example, sniffed at:

“… pretty much a Phyrric victory. The Queens had but a skeleton team…“

Nevertheless, that mattered not to Scotland’s Irish community. They rejoiced, bands paraded and many a drink was had as Celtic – and the club’s first major success – were celebrated.

And, just for the record, the Bhoys finished top of the Scottish League for the first time the following season – edging out Rangers by one point!

Scottish Referee Magazine:

“There was much jubilation on the part of the Irish population of Edinburgh and Leith when it became known that Celtic had won the Scottish Cup . . . Edinburgh and Leith people look forward with expectancy to the coming of the Celts on Monday next when they meet with the Athletic…”

Teams

Queens Park

Baird, Gillespie, Gulliland, J Hamilton, Lambie, Robertson, Scott, Sellar, Sillars, Stewart, Waddell

Goals: Waddell

Celtic

Cullen; Reynolds and Doyle; Maley, Kelly and Gallacher;

McCallum, Brady, Dowds, McMahon, and Campbell.

Scorers McMahon (2), Campbell (2), Sillars (og)

Referee: Mr. G. Sneddon
Att: 20-30,000 ( reduced attendance as entry doubled to 2 shillings (2/-)

The Scotch Challenge Cup.

The Times, Monday, Apr 11, 1892; pg. 7; Issue 33609; col B

Queen’s Park and Celtic replayed the final tie at Ibrox Park, Glasgow, before upwards of 20,000 spectators. Queen’s park, after leading by one goal to none at half-time, were beaten by five goals to one.

Scottish Cup – Final Tie.

The Scotsman – Monday, 11th April 1892, page 5

Queen’s Park v Celtic – After a series of postponements and delays almost without precedent in the history of the competition, the question of the custody of the Scottish Cup for the next year was finally settled on Saturday, when the Celtic capped their brilliant season’s form by defeating the Queen’s Park by the large majority of five goals to one. The Parkhead men have struggled manfully for the honour, which they thus secure for the first time, and there can be no dispute as to their right to secure the custody of the national trophy. Since the occasion of the first match the teams, which it is in the recollection of every one, was ordered to be replayed on account of the encroachment of the spectators, public interest in the contest had in no way diminished, though, as a matter of fact, the attendance on Saturday did not reach the extraordinary limit attained on that occasion.

Though prior to the first match the Queen’s Park were favourites with the general public – partly by reason of the fact that they had time after time shown themselves to be possessed of the knack of rising to the occasion, and had, as a matter of fact, never been defeated in any final tie for the cup in which they had figured – the situation was reversed before the start of Saturday’s game. Several causes contributed to bring about this altered state of matters, but the principal was the weakened state of the Queen’s Park team. Nothing but uncertainty prevailed before the match as to the eleven which would do duty for them, and, as will be seen from the teams annexed, the combination which ultimately took the field for the popular Hampden Park club was of a poorly balanced nature. Still, with the resistance of the wind in the first half, they gave the Celts any amount of trouble, and actually crossed over with a lead of a goal, but in the second period the Irishmen turned the tables, and there was then really only one team in it. The arrangements for the match were again of the most perfect nature, there being a large staff of police both mounted and on foot present, sufficient to cope with a crowd of any dimensions. Needless to say, the fiasco of the previous match was not repeated, the proceedings being of the most orderly nature from the start to finish. The attendance, though short of that of the first match, was greater than that which filled the ground a week ago on the occasion of the Scoto-English International, it being calculated that there would be about 30,000 present. The only drawback from a meteorological point of view was the presence of a pretty strong east wind, which gave an undoubted advantage to the team defending the eastmost goal.

Led by Kelly, the Celts were the first to make their appearance a little before the advertised time of start, and they were shortly followed by the Queen’s with Tom Robertson at their head, both teams coming in for a particularly hearty reception. Robertson was fortunate in the spin of the coin, and naturally elected to play with the wind in his favour during the first half. Dowds kicked off for the Celts and the game at once assumed a lively aspect. A foul against the Celts early gave the Hampden eleven an opportunity, and as Sellar sent the ball nicely into the goal-mouth some excitement prevailed, but the sphere was ultimately headed away. For a time the game was of a somewhat forcible nature, and fouls were rather frequent. Some surprise was expressed at the dashing form shown by the Queen’s Park representatives, notwithstanding the strange composition of the team, and for a time they kept the spectators at the pitch of excitement, as again and again they made a raid on the Celtic citadel. Kelly, however, was showing greatly improved form from his recent appearances and proved no small obstacle to the opposing forwards. Doyle also was in great form, his kicking and tackling at times being magnificent. Several rushes of the Celtic on the other hand, were splendidly negotiated by Donald Sillars who was playing a strong game at back. On one occasion early in the game, however, the Celtic were very near scoring, a beautiful shot, which just went over the bar, being sent in by W. Maley. The first corner kick of the match fell to the Queen’s Park, and was nicely placed by W. Lambie, but the leather was again sent over the bar. Then the Queen’s pressed, and Reynolds in heading out nearly sent the ball through his own goal. A corner, however, only resulted, off which nothing was scored. With the game about twenty minutes old, the Queen’s made a determined raid on the Celtic goal, and their efforts were this time rewarded, Waddell putting through the first goal of the match amid an enthusiastic outburst of cheering from the many Queen’s supporters on the ground. This gave the Queen’s Park the confidence which it was felt by their supporters they required, and for a considerable time they hemmed the Celtic in on their own goal-line, corner after corner being conceded to them. Of these, however, nothing came, thanks to the admirable defence of Cullen, assisted by Doyle and Reynolds. The Celts having at last raised the siege gave the Queen’s defence some trouble, McMahon being especially prominent by his dashing runs, but Sillars continued to maintain a strong defence, and seldom were the Celts really dangerous. Towards the close of the half the Queen’s had again all the best of the play, and considering the frequency of their visits to their opponents territory, they seemed to have rather hard lines in not scoring. Half-time arrived with the Queen’s leading by a goal to nil.

The second half had not been long in progress before it was apparent that the relative positions of the teams would very soon be reversed. The breeze now proved an undoubted advantage to the Celts, and they soon bore down on Baird, but at first without success. For a time the Queen’s continued to show a little of the form of the first half, but this soon died away by reason of the strong attack which the Celts were now making. The Irishmen’s efforts were at length rewarded, as, after some smart play in front of the goal, M’Mahon, with a wonderful overhead shot, put through the first goal for his team. This was received with an extraordinary outburst of enthusiasm from the Parkhead club’s followers, and was really the turning point of the game, as further improvement was noticeable in the play of the Irishmen from this point. Only a short period had elapsed when the second goal was put through for the Celtic from the left wing. An effort was made by the Queen’s to rouse themselves, but though their play was of a dashing nature individually, their opponents felt evidently that they were playing a winning game, and showed the utmost confidence and resource. Doyle was simply unpassable, and repeatedly was cheered for his smart tackling and strong and clean kicking. Hamilton on one occasion, however, made a splendid single-handed effort for the “Blazers”, but his parting shot was wide of the mark. The Celtic left wing forwards were showing splendid combination, M’Mahon playing up in surprising fashion, and through his instrumentality Baird was beaten for the third time.

The Celtic followers were now quite beside themselves with delight, and all the members of the team came in for favourable comment. With the view of, if possible, bringing about a change in the position of affairs, Sellar now took his usual place on the left forward wing, Stewart going back and J. A. Lambie to half-back. The change seemed likely to have some effect as Sellar time after time came away with beautiful dribbles down the wing. He got little support, however, and his efforts, therefore, went for little. Only on one occasion did he seem on the point of scoring, as, having beaten Kelly and Reynolds, he has an open goal before him. Doyle, however, had yet to be reckoned with, and crossing over from the other wing, the trustworthy “Dan” succeeded in nipping the ball from the feet of Sellar and sending it well down the field. From this point to the close the Celts with ease maintained their superiority. From a free kick Kelly scored the fourth goal, the ball striking one of the opposing team in its progress towards the goal mouth. For a few minutes the Celts’ forwards rested on their oars, and the Queen’s asserted themselves a little; but the opposing defence was as safe and steady as ever, and the Hampden eleven failed to augment their score. Just on the call of time M’Mahon succeeded in raising the Celtic total to five goals to one.

There was a scene of much enthusiasm at the close, the members of the winning team being cheered to the echo as they retired to the pavilion. Coming to individual form, it may be said that for the winners the left forward wing played a prominent part in their victory, M’Mahon showing astonishing dash and resources, which marked him out as the best of the forward line. He was well supported by Campbell and McCallum, and Brady also played a magnificent game on the right. The surprise of the match was Kelly who played quite in his old style, in marked contrast to his international performance. Doyle was a tower of strength at the back, his play in all respects being most accurate, and he was ably assisted by Reynolds, while Cullen was very safe in goal. Of the losers, it may be said that Sellar was more effective forwards than at back. There was at times a sad lack of combination in the forward rank, but Hamilton and Waddell showed good individual play. The back division was much inferior to that of the Celts, Sillars being the only one of outstanding merit. Baird did fairly well in goal, and, though he has been seen to more advantage, saved some really dangerous shots in brilliant fashion

Glasgow Herald 11th April 1892

Willie Maley recalls the game and the post-match celebrations:
“The second game was an eye-opener for the Queen’s supporters as our lot walked away with the ‘goods’ winning by 5 to 1. Both sides showed changes, Dowds playing centre for us vice Madden, injured, and Sellars playing back for Queen’s, vice the redoubtable Walter Arnott. Our lot stamped themselves that day as the champions of Scotland without a doubt, and their football was delightful to watch.

What a happy lot we were that night when the Cup was taken up to St. Mary’s Halls by John Glass of happy memory. Poor Glass, he looked as if his chief end in life had been attained, and there was not a happier man in the universe than he that night. In his speech in replying for the club he reminded his bearers of his prophecy when we were beaten by the Third in 1889, and told them he knew then we would do it yet. Cups won nowadays like the Scottish carry with them bonuses of very substantial size; but, I may tell those interested, that the bonus for that cup was a new suit of clothes for each man.

I had then attained one of the greatest honours of a footballer’s career in winning my Scottish Cup badge . . . Our three-leaved-shamrock success of that year [Scottish Cup, Glasgow Cup, Charity Cup] had not been touched by any other club since the inception of the competitions, and so we started our record-making career of cup-winning.”

Weekly Mail and Record, 1915

Reaction to Celtic’s 1st Scottish Cup success in Glasgow’s East End – and beyond

From the The Scottish Referee, 11th April 1892, quoted in Rhapsody In Green:

“There was much jubilation on the part of the Irish population of Edinburgh and Leith when it became known that Celtic had won the Scottish Cup . . . Edinburgh and Leith people look forward with expectancy to the coming of the Celts on Monday next when they meet with the Athletic . . .

The half-time result of the great final was received at Cappielow Park [Greenock] with loud cheers, mingled with groans . . .

Coatbridge was en fete on Saturday over the victory of the Celtic. In the second half, when it was intimated that the Celts had scored three goals in ten minutes, you might have heard the cheers at Ibrox. Had the Celtic team been immersed in the whisky that was drunk to their health, the Parkhead lot would have been non est . . .

When the intimation came that ‘our team’ had won in such a handsome manner almost everybody who could muster a cheer and a grin at once put them in evidence. Even the women lent a hand, and helped in no small measure to make the rejoicings hearty. But it was when ‘the boys came marching home again’ from the aristocratic Ibrox that the fun began in earnest . . . As the evening wore on, the whole East End put on an air of alleged gaiety and a colour of deep carnation that would have given an unenlightened stranger the severe knock of astonishment. Bands! you ought to have seen them. They perambulated the whole district until well on in the evening, and with the aid of a liberal use of party music helped to make things hum along merrily. Of course this caused a risk of a ruction with [King] Billy’s men. But what of that? Truly the East End was a perfect turmoil until the very early hours of the Sunday, and many of the crowd won’t be able to get over the rejoicing racket for days to come.”

1892 Scottish Cup triumph … the first of 103 trophies for Celtic

By: Paul Cuddihy on 09 Apr, 2018 09:31

CELTIC’S total of major domestic honours currently stands at an impressive 103 after Brendan Rodgers’ side captured the League Cup this season – and the Hoops are also hoping to add the league and the Scottish Cup to that tally this season.

Today, April 9, marks the 126th anniversary of Celtic’s first major trophy, winning the Scottish Cup in only the fourth year of the club’s existence with a 5-1 replay victory over Queen’s Park.

Back in 1892, the Scottish Cup was the country’s most prestigious competition, far outweighing the fledgling championship in terms of importance and the new club’s already faithful following craved success.

The first Brake Clubs (forerunners of supporters’ clubs) had already been formed and, while the Irish immigrants following Celtic were still considered to be second-class citizens by many of the indigenous Scottish population, there was a growing respect for their team.

The faithfulness of the support wasn’t going unnoticed either. A correspondent for the Scottish Referee, in September 1891, felt compelled to remark: ‘The Celtic are blessed with a following that simply defy the elements, whose enthusiasm for their club is never lukewarm.’

These supporters had already tasted defeat in a Scottish Cup final when, in 1889, their team fell victim to a narrow 2-1 defeat at the hands of Third Lanark.

But, in a season when they had already won both the Glasgow Cup by beating Clyde and the Charity Cup by turning over Rangers, confidence was high within the Celtic squad that there would be no repeat of that heartache.

Nevertheless, standing in Celtic’s way were Queen’s Park, the established and undisputed force in Scottish football at the time.

This was also a time of transition for Celtic who, earlier in the year, had parted company with Brother Walfrid, one of the most influential figures in their early years.

They had also quit the site of their original stadium and moved across Janefield Street to set up home where Celtic Park stands today. However, having disposed of Partick Thistle 8-0 in the quarter-finals and Rangers 5-3 in a thrilling semi, there was widespread optimism that the cup would soon be arriving at their new ground.

The Scottish Sport set the scene, hailing the Spiders as ‘the premier club in Scotland’ and describing Celtic as ‘the best combination of Irishmen that has ever been raised in Scotland, knitted together by an unquenchable desire to do honour to the Emerald Isle.’

The two were originally scheduled to do battle on March 12 and, despite an overnight snowstorm, thousands upon thousands of Celts headed for Ibrox to see their heroes contest the cup.

So great was the interest in fact that mounted police were unable to control the unprecedented number of people desperate to gain entry.

Before long, the Ibrox gates were breached and, with the crowd far exceeding the stadium’s 36,000 capacity, there were pitch invasions before, during and after the match.

Celtic won 1-0 thanks to a solitary goal scored by Johnny Campbell on the hour mark and, since the trophy was traditionally presented inside the pavilion, most of the 40,000 spectators left Ibrox assuming that the Bhoys had won the cup.

However, Celtic united with Queen’s Park to make a joint protest insisting the match be replayed, a move which was upheld by the SFA.

A Scottish Sport correspondent summed up the mood at the time, describing the now null and void match as: “the most remarkable event that has ever happened in the history of the Association game”.

The final was duly rescheduled for April 9 and, as a means of controlling crowd numbers – without harming profits – the admission price was doubled to two shillings (10 pence).

Sure enough a smaller crowd of 23,000 turned up and saw Queen’s Park, with a strong wind at their backs, take a 1-0 lead into the break. However, with James Kelly outstanding at centre-half, Celtic came storming back in the second half, taking a firm grip on proceedings.

The Spiders couldn’t stem the tide and, six minutes after the restart, the equaliser arrived when Sandy McMahon netted a spectacular overhead shot. McMahon, rated as Celtic’s most outstanding player of that era, had earned the title ‘Prince of Dribblers’, and he would go on to become the star as Celtic went about securing the trophy.

Not long after scoring the first, he set up left-wing partner Johnny Campbell to fire home the second and send the crowd into delirium. McMahon would go on to seal the match in Celtic’s favour with a brilliant individual goal that saw him ghost past several defenders before converting.

Two further strikes would be added, one from McMahon to complete his hat-trick and the other a deflected free-kick from James Kelly.

Celtic’s victory had been as emphatic as it was significant but this was not reflected in the press of the time, betraying a wider unease at the emergence of this new force. The Scottish Referee, for example, sniffed at: “… pretty much a Phyrric victory. The Queens had but a skeleton team…”

Nevertheless, that mattered not to Scotland’s Irish community. They rejoiced, bands paraded and many a drink was had as Celtic – and the club’s first major success – were celebrated.

And, just for the record, the Bhoys finished top of the Scottish League for the first time the following season – edging out Rangers by one point!

1892 Scottish Cup-winning Celtic team: Cullen, Reynolds, Doyle, W Maley, Kelly, Gallagher (Ed. Gallacher) , McCallum, Brady, Dowds ( Ed. Douds), McMahon, Campbell.

1892 Cup Final -Replay(an imagined trip back in time …)

Ah lads – its brilliant to be in a Celtic pub in Johnstone surrounded by fellow Celtic bhoys & girls.

Let me introduce myself; my name is Patrick Gallacher and 130 years ago tonight, me any my good friend here – Peter Douds – were in another Celtic pub in Johnstone celebrating Celtic’s first ever victory in the Scottish cup. The pub we were in had a more obvious Celtic name that this one – it was called The Celtic Bar!

And we were celebrating more than most, as both of us were honoured to play in that historic match. Can you believe it?! We beat the oldest and biggest club in Scotland, Queen’s Park ,5-1 in a replay. We had already won the first game 1-0 and I still don’t know why we had to replay it, but there was no doubt about the victors today!

But what brought us both to a pub in Johnstone rather than staying in Glasgow with the rest of the bhoys from the team?

Well it was easy really – me and Peter both hail from these parts; Peter lives just around the corner in 27 Graham St and me just a hop, skip and a jump away in Crosslee, and there was no way we were going to miss celebrating with our own friends and family in our local Celtic pub – I’m sure all of yez here can appreciate that ?!

Of course, for me I was very close to winning a Scottish Cup winners medal at the Hibees 5 years previously…. Just missed being selected btw…

And the seeds of Celtic’s success 130 years ago tonight were sown after that Hibs victory. A group of sympathetic Glasgow businessmen – ye know; licencees, merchants and the like held a wee reception at St Mary’s hall to celebrate the victory of their fellow Irishmen from the East and at the ‘do’, the the Hibs boys were so full of joy at their win and the Glasgow bhoys’ hospitality that they suggested thesei bhoys should start up an Irish club in Glasgow. And just 5 years later here we are – winners of the same cup and now the biggest Irish club in Scotland!

When Hibees won the Cup There were 10 Irish teams entered the Cup that year – all Shamrocks and Harps …and two Erin Rovers (one from Perth & the other from Bathgate). Even Johnstone Harp played in the Cup that year …

But there wasn’t a Celtic then… no-one had heard of Celtic then… but by god Brother Walfrid had a dream and the Sligo man knew how to pick a name…

A name that’s known everywhere now.

And it wasn’t just me that joined the Celtic from another Irish club. Peter here also joined Celtic from a similar club albeit one much nearer home. Peter was a player with Johnstone Harp who played at Newfield Park, just a couple of hundred yards away from here near the old Johnstone North Station. In fact one of Peter’s mates at the Harp, also joined Celtic. Will Dinning, another local bhoy from Kilbarchan played in goals for the Celtic before heading down to Birmingham to win medals with the famous Aston Villa. And they must have been good pals as Peter eventually joined Will there and won the league with Villa.

I was perhaps a bit fortunate to pick up a medal today. Johnny Madden couldn’t play in the replay, so Peter moved to Centre Forward today and I filled in for him beside Captain Kelly & Willie Maley in midfield …and I somehow managed to lay on a goal for our captain too. In fact some folk might say that I was the difference between the close match in the first game and the absolute drubbing we gave them in the second.

But you wouldn’t hear me saying anything as pompous as that …oh no …

It was our first major trophy and all the sweeter for it! … in fact it was a Treble of Cup wins that season, having already won the Glasgow Cup and Charity Cups that season .. and you boys and girls know all about winning Trebles eh?!

The following season we were league champions; we beat a team called The Rangers by one point. I wonder what happened to them?!

Are they still on the go ??

And 130 years on – how have we done? Well – that first Scottish Cup was followed by another 39 victories over the years. We’ve done even better in the league winning it another 50 times and we’ve won another cup – the league cup, 20 times!

And of course we were even champions of the whole of Europe. I’ve even heard that if you ask the right person they’ll tell you the link between the name of this pub and that famous victory.

And it all started, 130 years ago with a couple of Local bhoys celebrating that first trophy in a Johnstone pub. And here we all are – Johnstone bhoys and girls their friends celebrating that great day and looking forward to more games and more trophies like that first one.We were mainly a team of Irishmen then; now we’ve Australians, Japanese, Greek, Swede, American- all newcomers to this land as well as some good Scottish bhoys and even an Englishman!

There’s a woman’s team doing well and lots of lassies going to games now too – and all these changes are for the better if you ask me.

And all of us united in the same cause as we were united 130 years ago –

The world famous Glasgow Celtic!!

Hail Hail

Marco Paolo April, 2022

Patrick Gallacher (sic) b. Crosslee, Renfrewshire 10th December, 1865 – d. 7th June 1899 (33 years) Kelvin, Glasgow.

Peter Douds (sic) b. Graham Street, Johnstone 24th August, 1871 d. 3rd September 1895 (24 years) 27 Graham Street, Johnstone, Renfrewshire

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Cosy Corner Bhoy

SenS: The article is nearly as good as the afternoon in Johnstone was😁. Maybe someone could post pictures of the pub walls decorated with the shots in the article?
The Creighton at usual time today for us! Plan C to be tested out.

Leggy

SeS,

Brilliant article, as was the fabulous day at the 2010 pub
In Johnstone.

You have done everyone proud. 👏👏👏

HH 🍀🍀🍀

Craig76

Outstanding article Saltires 👏 👏

The Gombeen Man

Thanks SES and ASWGL.

A fitting tribute to that momentous day.

Wouldn’t it be nice if the player’s names were read out today…

Dannymac 23,

Thanks Danny for the comment. Sometimes I think there should be a heath warning on posts two weeks either side of an Sevco game.

We’re often so wound up by the hype that much of things that are written isn’t what we really think or who we are.

Auldheid,

Thanks for the reply.

A bit of fun…

If we stop trying to fix things for just a few moments…

Who or what’s there?

Even in the midst of last Sunday’s violence there were chinks of light.

Moments like the like the woman I saw holding a drink for her handicapped companion so that he could drink from a straw. Or the woman who took the photograph with Ange.

Or perhaps the Grandad driving across the city to allow the child’s father to watch the game?

A big 90 minutes beckons, where everything that often divides us can be left behind…

Three points.

Have a great day.

Awe Naw

Great read this morning.

Awe Naw

RESEARCHERS have identified a gene which is omnipresent in and localised solely to the Irish population in one of the most fascinating scientific discoveries of the 21st century.

A TCD research group has identified a gene whose overexpression accelerates the development of spiteful and resentful emotions aimed towards those who seem content, happy and/or successful, proving a decades long hypothesis that Irish people are inherently predisposed to begrudgery.

“Oh you would say you jumped up nerd, I know your father. A milkman. And you think you can tell me I try to take people down a peg or two because I resent other’s success? That’s typical of an arrogant milkman’s daughter. Think you’re better than everyone? What, just because you drive a BMW? It’s not even nice, shite cars,” one member of the public profiled for the study said to lead researcher Dr Gráinne O’Collins.

While genetic and environmental factors affect the severity of the UIBG (unique Irish begrudgery gene), rudimentary research confirmed the science on this is sound.

“We showed people pictures of famous Irish people – 100% negative hit rate. Pics of their neighbours – 100% hit rate, their work colleagues, the children of their friends. But their dopamine levels rose exponentially whenever they remembered a negative fact or anecdote which they felt proved the person wasn’t ‘all that’,” explained Dr O’Collins.

The study’s results have been peer reviewed and heralded by the scientific community, however the majority of Irish people who have seen Dr O’Collins media appearances detailing the breakthrough confirmed ‘she seems a bit up herself’ and ‘probably only in the research for the money

SFTB

Around 18 posters still to trap for Superbru today- predictions due by 3 pm

St tams

SeS , another fantastic article.
Thanks for taking the time to compose this.
Well done

Bawheid

Another great read. The debt we owe to Brother Walfrid – Brother Austin – Doctor John Conway – like John McCreadie (sons of Donegal) – Joseph Neils – Joseph McGroary. You read of the work ethic and the time that it must have taken to get the club established and then you read about the strength and the quality of the support, it makes you feel humble.

“Opening Of Celtic Football and Athletic Park, Dalmarnock Street, Parkhead. Grand Opening Match. Hibernians (Edinburgh) Verses Cowlairs. (Exhibition Day) May 8th. Kick- Off at 6pm. prompt. Admission 6d. Ladies Free. Grand Stand 6d, extra each Persen.
N.B. – The park is two minutes walk from the Parkhead and London Road Tramcar and Rail way Stations.”
The Celtic Graves society.

It was a lovely tribute in Johnston and a pointer to the first Scottish Cup win – 130 years ago and I’m so glad that everyone enjoyed their day. Lovely pictures too. Well done to ASWGL.
Bravo.

Mon the ‘Tic.

JimmynotPaul

SES.
Smashing article, thank you.
Awe Naw. 8.24.
Great stuff, gave me a laugh.

Big Audio Dynamite

Great article again, SES.

Before you were even considered for a place in this great Celtic team, a dashing moustache was required 😊

Saltires en Sevilla

Cheers folks …likeisay… the hard miles completed by fantastic The Celticwiki.

TGM – good shout about announcing the names at Paradise today- the club have already been notified ( and St Johnstone as Cup Holders) -weeks ago but probably stuck in their spam filters

Aw Naw -begrudgery gene – it’s a thing 😂😂😂

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SALTIRES

Magnifico!

It was 130 years ago today
Glasgow Celtic taught the world to play
They’ve been going in and out of style
But they’re guaranteed to raise a smile…

Auldheid

CFC
Auldheid

Or is the source material all utter hogwash designed to control the gullible?

The human condition having nothing to do with reverence to an unseen force/ spirit/ deity and Everything to do with simply living a wholesome life, with the ultimate desire to achieve a life devoid of conflict?

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Perhaps but who is the designer and why do they need control? I think that is one of the questions Genesis 3 poses.

As regards desire to live a wholesome life devoid of conflict is the absence of that introduced by taking on judgement not the reason for the separation in the first place?

What is the source of that desire or is it a natural consequence of the experience of conflict?

Is the idea of separation a trick played on the gullible and if so by whom and for what reason? Our benefit or the trickster?

If life is designed to bring us to wholesomeness is it possible that on achieving it the reason for separation has been acheived in spiritual terms thus ending the idea of separation?

More questions than answers but my observation based on years in on line communities is that whenever judgement is applied conflict follows. The wee spat with Mags knowing more is a recent example.

When Christ said ” Father, forgive them they know not what they do” is that an example of a human being making his final judgement?

Thanks for the reply. I dont know the answers of course but I did want to get folk thinking.

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AWENAW

Speaking for myself,I don’t bear grudges.

Lightly…

Auldheid

TGM

An important point. If we all focussed on the goodness in humanity, and conflict ironically tends to bring that out, then we create a different reality for ourselves.

If reality is based on what each individual thinks then there are many realities.

What we think is based on the meaning we give to what we see or perhaps what we look for.

If all focus was on the chinks of light then a new common reality would be created.

Auldheid

Aw Naw

I have a friend in Spain from Belfast originally who personifies that research.and admitted it.

He is great company.

McCaff

Stunning SES, just stunning. Take a bow, mate!! 👏👏👏

Well a wee glass of red before the bus to the game, 3 points please Celtic

SFTB

Superbru last call- still waiting for predictions from Angel Gabriel, BRTH, celtic mac, Gscbhoy, Mick The Tim, Scaniel and Wee McCaff.

bada bing1

https://youtu.be/WAifgn2Cvo8

Sam Fender…..must be played loud….

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ASWGL

Terrific stuff with the artwork.

Gordon64

ASWGL

SES absolutely top drawer, probably the longest leader I’ve ever read on here, but definitely worth taking the time to learn new things about our club, also thanks for the mention, even though I’m embarrassed a little by it, the work and the enthusiasm is all yours, well done. 👏 👏

As Bawheid and your good self point out, we are lucky to have such dedicated people at the Celtic wiki, Celtic graves society, and the huge debt we owe to Brother Walfrid, Doctor John Conway et al.. Not forgetting our hosts Mahe & Bobby who give us such a fine platform to learn, debate, celebrate, complain and generally talk pish with little to no censorship.

Here’s to 3pts today and fitbaw the Celtic way.

HH

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My drive back from my last drop,Bury St Edmunds,to Swindon usually takes about three hours,and until I hit Bicester,just north of Oxford,is done almost entirely dual carriageway.

So,just before 7am-on a Saturday!-imagine my shock at all of the service stations in town already packed out,with others queuing!

And the one I usually use,on the A14 near Cambridge,had NO unleaded at all,yesterday or today.

Traditional English stiff upper lip,my arse. Any excuse to panic,more like.

CFC

S e S

Great article. A huge amount of effort, much appreciated.
I have passed it on to Jerry Reynolds’ great grandson, also Jerry. Also originally from Maryhill.

Auldheid

Thanks for the reply.

In my view your description of “designer” is just another group of humans with a desire to control. To assert themselves and become enriched, in whichever way they desire, as a result.
Life on Earth within every species has a hierarchy.
The strongest, the smartest, the most brutal, the opportunists.
Yip, more questions than answers.
Who knows what the transient nature of each individual’s life is. Extremes of Wholesomeness and conflict …or various shades in between.

Re Christ, his comment strikes me not as a final judgment but more an understanding of the need for forgiveness. A step beyond judgement. Rehabilitation, reconciliation.

Anyway, a deep subject for a footy blog on a grand footy day.

jimthetim53

SeS, words fail me for that article! Thank you. 🙂

SeS, thank you for a brilliant leader.

The Patrick Gallagher monologue was excellent when I first heard it in the 20:10, however, it feels more powerful the second time around.

Thanks again.

Brian

Pitymevin

Auldheid,
Corinthians 13

Very apt, as I’ve heard that on so many occasions and it still doesn’t stop me from being said clanging cymbal.

A beautiful passage

Pitymevin
jimthetim53

Non Runners:
VOGUEPUNTER 16.15 Commodore
LEGGY 18.20 Crambo

Craig76

Celtic Football Club (@CelticFC) Tweeted: 📋 Our #CELSTJ line-up 📋

Come on 𝙁𝙐𝙀𝙇 the 𝙉𝙊𝙄𝙎𝙀! 📢

#cinchPrem | #COYBIG🍀 https://t.co/D4Zf1DRgWM https://twitter.com/CelticFC/status/1512773650474225664?s=20&t=hkVdGpN0Cjy3DqQxKuB8FA

Kyogo on bench

Saltires

Brilliant.Thanks for that. Speaking of the brake clubs, I loved the line in the original ‘Celtic Story’ released in the summer of 1967:

“Supporters’ brake clubs were formed, linked to temperance organisations…a practice which has long since discontinued!!”

Incidentally, I first saw this film in 1982, in the St. Brendan’s Club in Linwood. Wow. What a film. It is still available on utube. It is 100 times better than the video released during the Centenary Season. What a load of sanitised guff that was. Then again, I’m no movie critic. Others may consider it right up there with ‘Ben Hur’ and ‘The Godfather.’ 😀

Auldheid

Thanks for your responses last night.

Hail Hail.

ASWGL

Teams up

Hart,
Taylor,
Starlord,
The Fridge
juranovic
Rogic
Hatate
Zorro
The Energiser Bunny
Jota
Gee-Mak

HH ☘️

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Craig76

Anyone at the game seen any mention of our 1st scottish cup win by the club or fans

jimthetim53

Cheers Bobby!

jimthetim53

Great Goal!!!!

Craig76

1 nil
Hatate after some great play

Craig76

Fan bloody tastic 2 nil

jimthetim53

A Cute Angle of a goal! 🙂

Craig76

JTT53
Pick a number between 1 and 20 and put it on the horsey page for Twisty 👍

Pity about GMak. Radio is reporting a possible hamstring injury. Hopefully he will be fit for next Sunday. I’m so glad that we are racking up the goals today. We mustn’t give the Huns even a glimpse of hope…another couple today may well drive them over the edge. I reckon that Ange will bring Kyogo on with 15-20 minutes to go. What an ovation he will get, if he should happen to score.

ASWGL

Forgot to say earlier…a quite brilliant background.

Hail Hail.

jimthetim53

Cheers Craig, job done! 🙂

jimthetim53

Dallas awards us a penalty!!!

Juronavic scores!

jimthetim53

Not counting my chickens but I think we have won this match.

Craig76

C’mon Ange let’s see Kyogo
I’ve got 7 nil on the predictor and there’s more than enough time for a Kyogo hat-trick 😀

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Jeez,close from Jura!

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