20th April – If you know your history

50 years ago … 1972 and it’s the dreaded morning after…the night before..

And I’ll tell you this Bhoys… is it European Semi-Finals ye want???… I’ll gie ye Semi-Finals..

Proper European Semi- Finals…

1972-04-19: Celtic 0-0 Inter Milan, European Cup Semi-Final

Semi-finals, second leg (0-0 agg, Celtic lose 5-4 on penalties)

After 210 minutes of stalemate Celtic become one of the first sides to lose a penalty shoot out in the European Cup.

Celts lose dramatically by 5-4 on penalties.

They miss out on the chance to play Cruyff’s Ajax in the final in Belgrade where Inter Milan lost 2-0.

All ticket match. 75,000 turn out at Parkhead and 80,000 turn out at Ibrox for Rangers v Bayern in the ECWC on the same night winning 2-0 and 3-1 on aggregate to take them to the final in Barcelona.

Match was shown live on the BBC whilst STV showed Rangers v Bayern. The cameras missed Celtic’s final penalty by Murdoch and viewers thought the score was 5-3 on penalties.

On the following night Celtic defeated Clyde 2-1 in a Reserve League match at Shawfield. The Celtic team was Neilsen, J. Davidson, Quinn, McLaughlin, Watt, Brogan, Hancock, Franchetti, Mitchell, White, O’Hara. Sub Newman. The Celtic scorer was Mitchell with two goals.

Review;

Heart-breaking stuff for Celtic. It just wasn’t to be a wonderful repeat of that magnficent day back in 1967.

Celtic went close on several occasions but could not break the Italians despite the advantage of playing at home.

So it went to penalties and after 210 minutes of no goals (a perfect set of Italian football games some would say).

Inter won the toss at the shoot out and went first. Although Deans missed, Johnstone, Craig, McCluskey and Murdoch alls scored, and we were out on a single miss by a player who was ever-reliable. It just happens.

Evan Williams got a hand to Inter’s second kick but couldn’t keep it out.

Head held high though, and still a lot to respect the team & manager for everything.

Quotes:

“By that time we were a lot more experienced but we should have won the game at Celtic Park as we had a few close-calls and I had a couple of attempts myself. “I also took the second penalty after Dixie missed his. The funny thing was that the day before the game, down at Seamill, every single thing that Dixie hit ended up in the back of the net.
“He was firing them away in fine style, but it just wasn’t to be on the night.
“It just showed you how evenly matched both side were as after 90 minutes in the San Siro and 120 minutes at Celtic Park, there were still no goals.”
(Jim Craig 2014)

Teams

Celtic: Williams, Craig, McCluskey, Murdoch, McNeill, Connolly, Johnstone, Dalglish ( Deans), Macari, Callaghan, Lennox. subs: Connaghan & Quinn

Inter Milan:
Vieri; Bellugi, Facchetti; Oriali, Giubertoni, Burgnich, Jair, Bedin, Bertini, Mazzola, Frustalupi. Sub: Pellizzaro.

Referee: Rudi Glockner (East Germany).
Attendance: 75,000

The Glasgow Herald Thursday April 20 1972

Disappointing European defeat for Celtic on penalty kicks

By Raymond Jacobs

Sadly, undeservedly, and by the most bitter of means Celtic are out of the European Cup. Having fought a war of attrition for 210 minutes of football in which neither side could pierce the other’s defence, Inter-Milan went through to the final when at Parkhead last night they scored five penalty kicks to Celtic’s four.

When the teams had proved that they were unable to break the deadlock of their semi-final tie, even after 30 minutes of extra time, the two goalkeepers, Williams and Vieri, had to go like men to the scaffold to their lonely duty at the east goal.

Mazzola scored easily, then it was the turn of Deans, an awe­some responsibility for a player without any previous experience of the tensions at this level of the game, let alone a sudden-death situation. He hit his shot slightly and did not get over the ball which flew well over the crossbar leaving him an inconsolable figure.

Williams got to Facchetti’s effort, only the second time all night he had had to face a direct shot, but could not stop it. Then in turn Craig, Frustalupi, Johnstone, Pellizzaro and McCluskey made no mistake and when Jair also scored the agony was over.

As the rules demand, and while Inter’s players were hugging one another in their joy at achieving their eccentric victory, Murdoch came up to complete the formalities for Celtic. He too scored but by then of course Deans’s miss had proved fatal.

As anyone must agree such a method of deciding so important a contest is patently unsatisfactory. And the irony of Inter’s victory is compounded by the fact that in an earlier round they had a 7-1 defeat cancelled because a spectator threw a can at one of their players. Altogether then it must have been a bitter disappointment for Celtic. They made all the running, inspired by the abundant skills of Murdoch, who cannot have played a more commanding game. But in the end Inter, the masters of defensive football, thwarted them.

Johnstone was disappointing, always under the thumb of Oriali, the best of an Italian rearguard whose interceptions and interventions gradually wore Celtic down in this grim battle. Lennox, Dalglish, Deans and Macari were hardly ever given room in which to move.

Frustration

McCluskey, though beaten for speed when Jair broke, showed a fine and promising maturity alongside McNeill and Connelly, but Inter hardly showed in attack — indeed in the end they had no need to with that tight-fisted defence behind them, and as it turned out one accurate penalty kicker more than Celtic.

For Celtic the first half was a complete frustration. They put on the tremendous and constant pressure that was expected of them and on innumerable occasions Inter’s goal enjoyed hairsbreadth escapes.

The danger came mainly from Celtic’s right side. Johnstone moved to the left wing, taking Oriali with him and with Facchetti always shadowing Lennox the space thus left was thoroughly exploited by Murdoch and Craig. Murdoch was at the heart of almost every move Celtic made and the packed house was in full throat as Celtic swept imperiously forward, hammering at Inter’s door and doing everything but burst it open. They moved impressively, always excitingly, and sometimes brilliantly.

But somehow Inter, not always scrupulous in the way they defended, held out with a packed defence and Celtic were thwarted time and again.

Forty minutes had gone before Williams’s goal was in any danger. Mazzola broke through and was forced by Connelly to shoot wide.

Constant siege

Vieri was, by contrast, under almost constant siege Twice Johnstone nearly caught Inter’s defence unawares, one of Craig’s several shots brought out a fingertip save from the goalkeeper, and Callaghan, given a clear sight of goal by a Macari flick, could not control the bail sufficiently to take steady aim.

Inter’s anxiety was twice reflected in displays of temperament. Mazzola, their captain, might have had his name taken for protesting at a decision of the referee, who turned out to be annoyingly finicky. Just before half-time Bellugi was cautioned for a harsh foul on Macari.

At the start of the second half, when Connelly burst through for the first time Burgnich almost put through his own goal, the ball bouncing off the crossbar. But after that Celtic lost the impetus that had carried them so close so many times before and against the man-to-man marking of Inter the rhythm left their game.

All this time Williams had not had a solitary save to make but only Murdoch, probing for gaps in Inter’s dense defence, was able to find space and time to move.

With just under half an hour left Deans came on for Dalglish and had been in his first European match only a matter of minutes before the referee cautioned him for fouling Oriali.

The Italians, still holding out, brought on Pellizzaro for Bertini but inexorably the game moved towards the tensions of extra-time and on the unsatisfactory business of penalty kicks.

The Scotsman Thursday 20 April 1972

Deans misses—out they go

Celtic 0, Inter Milan 0 (after extra time)

(Inter won 5-4 on penalties)

By John Rafferty

Celtic missed the final of the European Cup in the most frustrating and irritating way. Inter Milan prevented them from scoring in 120 minutes play then beat them on penalty kicks. The Italians scored all five but Dixie Deans missed the first of Celtic’s penalties. What was hardest to bear was that not until the grim ritual of penalties was Evan Williams called on to make a save.

Throughout it had been the classic contest, attackers v defenders and unfortunately for Celtic, the defenders were the greatest in Europe. Celtic made half chances but missed them in the shrinking space. They made one clear chance, but Callaghan missed. And then the rules made five clear chances for Inter and they took them all.

Celtic plans had not worked out. Murdoch was a magnificent player, a master in midfield, authoritative, inventive, inspiring, and that was a fine start for Celtic. But Johnstone was forced out of the game, and in that, Celtic’s defence opener was blunted. A hard little man, Oriali, trailed him all over the field and hardly let him see the ball.

Macari, Lennox and Callaghan went at that formidable defence, persistently and courageously; but it would have taken Johnstone at his best to pull them out of their well-practised formation.

Facchetti marshalled, them with dignity, and the sturdy Burgnich, the free man, cleared up the loose trouble. Celtic were forced into going at them in the air, but they were as authoritative there as was McNeil at the other end.

The 90 minutes were played with Williams a spectator. And then they went into extra time and that was grim. Celtic still attacked, but there had to be a safe edge to their every move. One goal was going to settle it, and they all knew that. Even the crowd was hushed. The time for encouragement was past. Pray­ing was in order.

And then came the penalties. Stein was on making, the arrangements, and then protesting as, typically the Italians, took overlong over refreshments. Mazzola took the first, and scored, Deans had Celtic’s first, but sent the ball high and his own heart low, and he seemed to break down. Williams got his hands to Facchetti’s kick, but could not stop it and that was the nearest he went to retrieving Deans’s miss.

Craig, Johnstone, McCluskey and Murdoch all scored; but the Italians gave nothing away. And so despite the magnifi­cence of Murdoch, Celtic failed to meet the task set them. These clubs might have played for a week and never scored. Celtic, because they had no finishing power; Inter, because they had only a defence and Mazzola.

It is strange that Inter should go to the final. They had a 7-1 defeat by Munchen Gladbach cancelled because of the infamous can incident. Now they have won the semi-final without scoring in 210 minutes. Celtic in the first 15 minutes were swarming like excited ants in the Inter penalty area. It was as spectacular and impressive as anything they have ever produced. Then in one furious minute Dalglish had a header saved, Johnstone hooked over the bar from close in and Craig had another solid shot beaten down.

Celtics rush at the start of the second half had Inter’s defence in confusion. Burgnich, trying to clear up the mess, headed past his own goal­keeper; but the hall struck the bar.

All Celtic had done was wear down these Milan players; and in the 51st minute, Stein made his move to tweak the, pattern he took off Dalglish and sent in Deans to work beside the courageous Macari. Celtic needed a goal desperately, as these supreme defenders looked like holding out for ever.

Inter sent on Pellizzaro for Bertini, and Deans was mysteriously booked. The referee seemed to have been taken in by some Italian play-acting. And so they went in to the tense last quarter of an hour. The crowd cheered and sang, and willed Celtic to score; but these superb defenders were not impressed.

In other news …

Postscript to Bawheid’s excellent item on mighty Armando Picchi last week

Internazionale fielded a team that included only 3 survivors from that famous night in Lisbon 1967: Facchetti, Burgnich & Mazzola.

Celts still had 5 Lions: Craig, McNeill, Murdoch, Johnstone & Lennox.

General stuff:

1862 First pasteurization test completed by Frenchmen Louis Pasteur and Claude Bernard

1920 Balfour Declaration recognised, makes Palestine a British Mandate

1968 British politician Enoch Powell makes his controversial “Rivers of Blood” speech

1976 Shay Given, Irish footballer, born in Lifford, County Donegal, Ireland

2021 Leslie McKeown, Scottish pop vocalist (Bay City Rollers – “Saturday Night”), dies at 65

Note: The excellent Celtic Wiki site is the font of all knowledge on things Celtic. Most of the Celtic stuff above is from that site. The guys who set it up and painstakingly keep it updated, deserve no end of credit, praise and thanks. A treasure trove for Celtic fans young and old – and new- and free to view.

Respect Bhoys !

http://www.thecelticwiki.com/m/

Guest article by Saltires en Seville. Change the record by sending an article to sentinelcelts@gmail.com

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TheNabbla

Fine article Saltires en Seville.hh

big packy

MORNING ALL and JIM, saltires you have raised the bar again ,fantastic stuff👍 frodsham bhoy from last night ,apologies was in my cot when you posted, yes the warrington expressway. when you pass the daresbury hotel on your way into warrington, just past the hotel there is a bus stop, if you cross over the road, there is an orchard hidden behind the trees, lovely walk thru it, H.H.

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

SALTIRES

I was gutted when we lost that tie against Inter. For starters,I wanted revenge for the previous two seasons,where we had lost to Dutch clubs. Ajax were a tremendous side though-people forget they were in the final of the EC in 1969 too-but we could have beaten them the previous season-two late goals lost in the first leg,and only one for us in the second leg despite pummelling them. I think they would have been more worried about us than about Inter.

Now,would we have beaten Bayern in 1974 had we not been cheated by Atletico? Actually,I doubt it. I thought they were even better than Ajax!

Incidentally,the 7-1 overturned result was against another German side. Borrussia Munchengladbach,who had the simply wonderful Gunter Netzer. Our fans would love to have seen him play at Celtic Park. Though George Connelly would have had him in his back pocket!

St tams

That brought back memories. SeS
Was in the main stand with my dad. Was distraught at the end of the game.
I had nightmares recalling that Dixie penalty that went over the bar .

Auldheid

Frodshambhoy
Auldheid I share your frustrations albeit from a much less informed position.

I’ve lived in England for about 38 years and I bore people to death telling them that Scotland is the only country in the world where refs can take charge of games involving a team that they support. I don’t know if that’s entirely true but I can’t imagine any other country would allow such a potentially unfair and volatile situation to exist.

Whilst I’d love Scotland to clean up its act I’m not sure how easy it would be. Where would we find a sizeable group of competent referees that don’t have leanings towards der hun. I think we’d need to look outside Scotland. I would welcome that but can’t see the powers that be and Sevco supporting that solution.
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Going outside Scotland is easy with VAR only the cameras and TV for ref to check need be in Scotland.
The reviewer can be anywhere as long as he/she is watching in real time.

We need to make sure the powers that be consider the views of supporters who ultimately pay for the VAR.
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I’ve suggested how that might be done and whilst Resolution Road is far from perfect it lays down a marker that puts focus on the issue and when focus happens change is possible.

The solution is not outside the power of supporters if they stop giving it away.

We either get organised to establish fair play or shut up.

Here is the link to my late post on previous blog for those who might have missed it.

https://sentinelcelts.com/2022/04/19/we-keep-going/comment-page-2/#comment-211820

Jobo Baldie

Great article, SES. Amazing to think that in 1972 the Glasgow Police had no issue with 150,000 fans cramming into Celtic Park and Ibrox on the same night.

Leggy

SeS,

Excellent article as usual 👏👏👏

One of the only times I cried after Celtic were beaten.

I did cry another time when I was refused entry at “The Boys Gate” at Celtic Park.

“ Well you are 30 years old” my pal told me !!!!

Quite sad really !!!!!!!!!

Reminds me of a line in a famous song,

“ Boys Gate no more “🎶🎶🎶

Ahh well,

Memories 💚💚

SeS

Cheers lads.. unfortunately I was ‘banned’ from that game in ’72 … and ’74 Semi Final too due to crowd safety issues experienced at the Semi Final I did attend in 1970 ( rules must be obeyed according to my mum…)

Jobo … Aye, two huge crowds in one nite in Glasgow – wow! They had good practice handling the thick end of 150k at Hampden in 1970 ( and the rest eh?!)

bada bing1

Still some ridiculous decisions after a VAR referral,remember it will be manned by Young,Dougal, Thompshun,McDonald etc.With technology now,there is no reason for a French official in Paris, or an Italian official in Milan,being the VAR referee for Scottish games and vice versa. Break the link in the cabal.

SeS

Auldheid – thanks for information and links

Sometimes get to sensing ‘they’ know ‘reactions’ only go so far by most fans… before mindset “ach … we’ll bloody ‘do’ them next time…”

You grunt and I’ll groan style 😊

Roll up ..

SeS

Bada – good shout … they have this situation firmly grasped by the nuts…nothing to see here etc., etc..

Pitymevin

For me this VAR will be the final straw.

They will become so blatant anti celtic the games gone.

By the way I’m not rasputin, but if you can’t see this coming, you are blind to the facts.

One last season and that will be that. Time for a new sport

Frodshambhoy

Interesting views on VAR
On another channel the lead suggests that Celtic will benefit from VAR more than any other club in world football. Wish I had that confidence.

Given the treatment we get virtually every game I am pretty sure we have the potential to gain most benefit. Problem is that VAR will need to be used fairly for that to happen. As it’s Scottish football that currently does us down at every turn and Scottish football will run VAR I don’t see it happening.

Leggy suggested that we should hook up to VAR in England. That would allow truly neutral guys to review decisions. I can’t think why Scottish football doesn’t want to do that.
Any suggestions?

CFC

Re VAR
It’s another way for ex refs to make money.
No way will it be contracted out of Scotland.

The ludge members will not want to see income disappearing out or their mucky hands.

bada bing1

https://twitter.com/i/status/1516504854037991430

Hopefully the hun commentator gets blackballed by the Klan

Pitymevin

Aye thats right they will bring in none biased refs for VAR, would you listen to yourself.

Hun refs being watched over by other hun refs to ensure they miss nothing that might stop celtic.

Games done, Mark my words

SeS

Frodsham Bhoy/Leggy

You got my vote for linking into a well funded/managed/accountable review centre in one of the English Shires … where do I sign 👏🏻

Big Audio Dynamite

Pitymevin, the game has never been anything but bent, we were just never this positive before. As much as it’s horrid to realise, our club IS old firm up to its neck all this bollox about not uttering the words in public is just that, bollox.

Like any act, the participants each have their part to play …and we are now acting our ass’s off!

Saltires

Smashing as always…a great read. Celtic played at home on the following Saturday, against Partick Thistle, If I recall. The Celts were awarded a penalty, and the Bhoys in the Jungle, in good humour despite the midweek defeat, jokingly suggested that Dixie should take it. Dixie, laughing, shook his head. I was not at either of these two games, but did have the privilege of being at Hampden shortly after, for that year’s Scottish Cup Final. The Celts thrashed the Hibees 6-1, with the bold Dixie claiming a hat-trick on the day. I liked the photo of Rab…to be honest, I looked, and felt, a bit like that on Monday morning. 😀

Leggy

I remember the boys gate at the Celtic End well. Big hairy-arsed guys in their 20s being let in, while young guys were getting a knock-back. The stewards were a bunch of big fearties.

As for VAR? What I believe will happen, is that every contentious decision given in favour of Celtic, will be analysed to the Nth degree, by ‘brothers’ of the 3rd degree, until an acceptable decision is reached… acceptable to the Huns of course. Every contentious decision given against Celtic, will of course, be completely ignored. Every contentious decision given in favour of the Huns, will of course, be quickly skipped over or not analysed at all. Haud oan, I’m sure that I’ve seen this movie before, at some point. Now let me think? Got it…Sportscene on a Saturday night. Could it be, that the SFA, will be wanting to bring those eejits in, to oversee VAR?

Hail Hail.

Mahe

SES,
A great read thanks. As usual we are in your debt.
Enjoy your day of Woden everyone, aka hump day. Stunning morning here actually with big rain due tomorrow.
Up the Hoops
RIP Garry

Hail Hail

Leggy

Magua,

You calling me a big hairy arsed guy ???? 😂😂😂

Just because I managed to get in at the boys gate when 30 years old !!!

PeterPan CSC 🍀🍀🍀

Auldheid

Pitymevin
Aye thats right they will bring in none biased refs for VAR, would you listen to yourself.

Hun refs being watched over by other hun refs to ensure they miss nothing that might stop celtic.

Games done, Mark my words
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That is exactly the thinking that produces the result you state..

It will happen only of supporters let it happen. I’ve set out how to get assurances that it will not happen via the AGM but there is no way I’m getting involved in that route UNLESS the CST make preventing such an outcome a priority.

So e mail the CST in numbers, ask them if they are willing to fight for fair play on behalf of the Celtic shareholders and support by getting answers from the Celtic Board at the AGM which will be before it is introduced. However do not wait until them get fair play under the rules on the CST agenda now and start pushing it asap.

I can tell you that if they do Celtic will start talking to the support.

Do nothing and and what you say is a self fulfilling prophecy.

If not a member tell them that you would consider joining if they take up the challenge they utterly failed to make using Res12 (but not in those words) :).

By Post:

The Celtic Trust
Box 502,
103 Byres Rd,
Glasgow
G11 5HW

By E-mail:

trust@celtictrust.net

By Phone:
0141 459 1887
Twitter: @TheCelticTrust

Don’t whine, WIN.

Auldheid

Frodshambhoy
Interesting views on VAR
On another channel the lead suggests that Celtic will benefit from VAR more than any other club in world football. Wish I had that confidence.

Given the treatment we get virtually every game I am pretty sure we have the potential to gain most benefit. Problem is that VAR will need to be used fairly for that to happen. As it’s Scottish football that currently does us down at every turn and Scottish football will run VAR I don’t see it happening.

Leggy suggested that we should hook up to VAR in England. That would allow truly neutral guys to review decisions. I can’t think why Scottish football doesn’t want to do that.
Any suggestions?
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I linked to one that has been used by Not The View and put over social media but I’ll post it here. It is not too long and I hope some take time to read it.

Updated Version of an Article on a Refereeing Service first published in 2010 on line.

Given the recent heightened focus on the refereeing standards in Scotland, I was asked to update a previous article from 2010 that included suggestions for changing the way refereeing is managed in Scotland .

Having had a look at the original my thoughts are “here we are again”, for the very same reasons the article was penned in 2010.

Why?

Because the refereeing issue is in my view connected to a lack of proper financial controls that create moral hazard, where one party can act with reckless abandon (see Rangers latest accounts), but other parties, as happened in 2012 are left to face the consequences.

So I’ll just repeat the suggestions made then but with an added comment on the proposed use of VAR, and how that and proper financial controls can save Scottish football from itself.

First the Referee Service

Note the word “service” for this is the way that much of what the SFA do should be viewed. The SFA provide a number of services to the clubs who play in Scotland. They should not be seen as their masters but their servants.

Or in modern terms the clubs in their professional leagues are the customers and the SFA the service providers. This change of attitude would allow competition to provide such services to enter the scene and so improve them.

This would be a huge cultural change but it has to start somewhere and here we are again under starters orders IF supporters act to bring the change about by calling their clubs to account for allowing the past to repeat itself today as a result of the notorious sporting integrity breaking Five Way Agreement, that UEFA never clapped eyes on, where our game became a franchise and clubs were stores that changed from Mr Noodles to Nachos but were still the same because they sold food.

Anyway!

The Referee Service

This would be split with the SFA doing the recruitment, training and match appointments (having taken the nature of the game to be officiated into account). However the monitoring and evaluation would be the province of the customer, using referees or ex refs from anywhere to mark to a standard set by the customer.

This split of responsibilities would prevent any one person being in a position to exert his own influence on referees as a result of being part of the appointment and evaluation process.

It would safeguard the SFA from the kind of suspicion that led to the referees’ strike and lead to a higher standard of referee because the customer would be setting the standard not the supplier (as happens everywhere in business but football).

If it did not, it would free the SPL/SL to hire their own referees from wherever they could get them. A bit of competition never did anybody any harm and that includes our referees who, if they reached higher standards, would be in more demand outside Scotland.

Here is the addition brought on by the introduction of VAR which is just another service. Use this “here we go again” opportunity to put the VAR service AND the refereeing it watches over out to tender.

The VAR supplier is also the referee monitor service to the leagues and the SFA become trainers and developers at lower levels of professional referees and work with the VAR service under a contract that rewards both parties.

The Licensing Service

This needs to be calibrated to meet the financial position of Scottish clubs. The principles in UEFA FFP that stipulate what is to be treated as allowable income and allowable debt continue, but regulating controls to prevent clubs going bust or acting in a reckless financial manner need introduced.

Points deduction is no deterrent if such recklessness creates huge points gap at end of season when the Champions League money is at stake.

Nor is the threat of losing all won by that recklessness a deterrent, when the nature of how it was won is down played then ignored and airbrushed from football history.

If survival depends on access to Champions League geld then referees, as matters continue to stand, will come under the kind of scrutiny that, unless addressed, leads to an ever growing suspicion – because here we bloody well are again – that our game is bent.

Worse, it leads to thinking that the clubs like it that way but ignore the fact that their supporters do not and will continue to ignore until supporters vote with their feet.

In short the Licensing Service that is supposed to protect the financial wellbeing of Scottish clubs has failed.
It perpetuates a moral hazard almost by design that caused the demise of Rangers in 2012.

That failure and how it was dealt with under the 5 Way Agreement has undermined the integrity of our game, causing increased scrutiny of referee decisions and if not dealt with this time will eventually kill football in Scotland as a sport.

VAR, however, if introduced as a professional service on lines suggested, should encourage more prudent financial behaviour in future by making reckless behaviour so risky it will stop and with it the moral hazard it creates.

MAGUA
I got into Love Street through the boys gate, aged 21, accompanied by BMCUWP, despite being over 6ft tall with a full beard and moustache. Cops were throwing people out of the line but just ignored us.
I put it down to my youthful good looks, which endure to this day. Just a few weeks ago, now aged 61, I got ID’d going into a nightclub on my son’s stag night. I offered to show the doorman my bus pass…..

Prestonpans bhoys

I decided to pay for my season today since I’m off to my caravan for the week and the internet is almost none existent. Asked Daughter how she wants to pay it. I want to pay it via instalments, nope don’t give them more money , said I, I’ll pay for both and you can pay monthly to me.

Pays for both then pop-up screen invites me to approve transaction on my app. You can’t use the BOS app on a Huawei phone😈. Had 10 minutes to find my tablet before it bombed out and completed it with 30 seconds left😱 jings

Craig76

Good read as always Saltires 👍
I’ve started going through Celtic wiki A to Z of players, some great information been gathered by the fine folk’s.

MAGUA/ Prestonpans bhoys
It seems I entered the correct Email address last night, as woke up this morning and the Shamrock magazine ☘☘was waiting in my in my inbox 😀

Prestonpans bhoys

Craig76

I suppose that means I have to withdraw that doughnut award😂😂😂😂👏👏👏👏

Craig76

Prestonpans bhoys
No It can be awarded to the couple feck ups at work yesterday 😃🤣🥯🥯🥯

Craig76

Original Tweet has been deleted apparently

Kev Murray (@KevMurrayOf) Tweeted: Well well well. Quickly deleted now
but screenshots last forever. I’m
guessing some hack at the DR
has had their P45 for turning
whistleblower and revealing the
truth. Shocking but unsurprising.

Care to comment guys?🤔
@Record_Sport @RangersFC @Rosswilsontt @spfl https://t.co/rKECveR999 https://twitter.com/KevMurrayOf/status/1516746939655671819?s=20&t=YeThi6fGibg_tcHcNAyUsA

Craig76

Turns out the tweet in my last post was made up pish.
Note to self……. read comments before posting 🤬🤬

Madhun, bottom left….

https://postimg.cc/zyWc5S8t

Nowhere near paranoid enough 🤬🤬🤬

Leggy

😀

Sol Kitts

I’m sure the money saved went on a wee swally. Fair play to youse.

Craig76

Let me know if it’s a good read. If it is, then Calton Books it is. 😀

Hail Hail.

Leggy

Sol Kitts/ Magua,

Never feel embarrassed !!!!

Embarrassment is :

Standing in the Boys Gate, at Celtic Park, pre 1980 and having a half bottle of Old England in your back pocket and a can of Tennents lager, up your juke !!!!!!!!

Oh happy days 😜😜😜😜😜

BOBBY MURDOCH'S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

SOLKITTS

Aye,I remember it well. I’d ordered up another two pints at five to three,and the Boys Gate had the shortest queue. I handed you a paper,told you to stick yer head in it,and slouch a bit!

Awe Naw

Many an Auld tim has told me that the advent of television matches decreased the cheating against us. I therefore think that VAR should only help. If only to highlight the corruption. BBC Camera lenses cannot be covered over if VAR is being used. VAR has introduced a culture that is not yet fully developed and as always the masonic Scots are stuck in the dark ages and well behind. It will be interesting to see it develop. Celtic players will need schooled in it. As Paul Lambert said after the final in Seville. If you can´t beat them you need to join them. We as a club have never done that. Preferring to portray a fair play and sporting image Well whenever it´s appropriate for the PLC as I have often argued the PLC´s favourite kind of well balanced Tim is the one with a chip on both shoulders and it´s their instinctive need to display defiance that brings them back to buying the ST at the cashier every year no matter how much he has felt cheated. Regardless as to how shite the product is and how garbage their own personal efforts have been our clubs get out of jail card, We were well rewarded with the VST uptake weren´t we. Needs must

So will Celtic players and staff especially foreign employees be schooled in the dark arts of the local culture? They obviously haven´t so far Mhhhh… now why could this be ? It´s been a long time happening, nearly 150 years. You would have thought they would have caught on by now or done something about it. Even if just to gain some leverage within the football bodies. Oh I forgot It´s because we are all paranoid and the huns don´t cheat anyone, anything at any level and never have done so. Silly me. Will Tom Rogic be encouraged or discouraged from theatrically highlighting a possible leg breaking tackle by rolling around in pained anguish while counting slowly to 120 in his head no matter what before he will get up ? History tells us that he will be positively discouraged by his paymasters to do so. Nobody will go out on a limb for you.

Let’s presume that Josh Meeking’s hand ball is not given after a VAR review, in fact let’s presume that their is one such glaring influential VAR review that goes against Celtic once in every game due to the brothers sitting in the VAR room .

Will anybody be prepared to do anything about it ?

And if you know you history …..

The PLC ?
The coaching staff ?
The Celtic support ?
The paying customer ?

…we don’t care what the animals say…

Of course not, Nothing will change. The WWOF circus will have them gasping for more. It will be just bring another layer of; intrigue, scope for manipulation, defiance and of course a justified increase in costs that you will all pay for.

For all we know …. and there can be no excuses this time around with VAR

Is that there’s going to be a show, And the Glasgow Celtic will be there

same old same old CSC

Jobo Baldie

May I ask a question regarding VAR. Is it up to individual associations to decide the extent of what VAR is used for. I think I’m right in saying that in England VAR comes into play for 4 things – offsides, potential missed penalties, potential red card offences and finally potential fouls in the build up to a goal. Nothing else, as far as I know.
So will it be the same in Scotland or can we pick and choose.
My question originates from a recent goal we scored from a corner where TV coverage showed that it should have been a goal kick. Subsequently many pundits were suggesting that if VAR was in play the corner decision would have been overturned. But I don’t think VAR is used for that and neither would it count as a ‘foul’ in the build up to the goal.

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AWENAW

Aye,I too thought that live TV would stop the cheating.

Awe Naw

BMCUWP

It definitely lets use a DD word “curtailed” it, and I would expect VAR to improve matters across the board but when push comes to shove e.g When a treble is on the line . Ranks will be closed and with the blessing of our masons on our board. It´s just what it is, and it is Old Firm. Maximising income for outlay will still be the main criteria forget about sporting integrity. Why would should anyone give a toss about cheating Celtic customers a little more overtly than they are already doing? The huns only know how to cheat. That is what race supremacy is all about. The stats show (P/L accounts) Celtic customers don´t mind. It will change how matches are played especially in self righteous virtue signalling Scotland. Looking forward to it. Implementing it at the start of winter…it´s in the script honest…to the tune of Billy Smarts circus

big packy

VAR, sorry not in scotland, who will be doing the checking, dougie mcdonald ,hugh feck the pope dallas, no the only way celtic will get a level playing field in scotland would be english or welsh referees, or failing that overseas refs, and that is another true story👍

Awe Naw

The referee can always choose to ignore VAR.

We will have a few years of that first and it will never be explicitly analysed by the Scottish media or footballing bodies.

Craig76

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Evening all.

SeS cracking leader. Brings back of watching the game with my late Dad.

When Dixie blasted it over the bar I blurted ‘Fxxx’ my old man looked over me immediately, looked as if he was going to give me a row, however, he rolled his eyes an said ‘Aye’. For the record I was 8yrs old.

Brian

Craig76

Cheers Craig.

Big Packy

Did I ever tell us about my first European away game? Notts Forrest 1983. Travelled down by bus. The only problem being, that our SB committee had banned rebel songs on the bus…a bit of a liberty, considering many of the original members of the bus were young guys, like myself. Anyhoo, a group of older men gradually started taking over the bus. Changed the name of the bus and everything, and as I said, rebel song were now verboten. The whole way there, and the whole way back, it was ‘Celtic Anthems’ by Dean Park, who was also apparently a comedian…though this has never been verified by independent witnesses. In truth, he was a poor man’s Andy Cameron, and if that ain’t bad, then I don’t know what is. On the plus side, we were ‘allowed’ to play the music of Paddy Reilly on the bus. This usually consisted of playing Paddy’s music-supplied by me-on cassette tapes, until they were chewed up by the bus cassette player. I’m convinced to this day, that the bus driver was an undercover Hun. The Dean Park tapes never received the same treatment. 😀

BelmontBrian63

Good evening, a chara.

Hail Hail.

Evening MAGUA

Brian

Pitymevin

Evening Auldheid, thanks for the reply and the advice.

To be honest I will get in touch once the VAR cheating starts, as preemptive complaints will no doubt make me appear paranoid. I don’t believe I’m paranoid, but instead a realistic supporter that has watched the EPL and seen some of the decisions made without a fuss.

Every Monday VAR is the biggest talking point. We will be told, so long as they get the decisions correct thats all that matters.

Every celtic goal, tackle, hand ball will be scrutinised to the max.

Your paranoid Tim.

Hail hail.

A trio of tunes of the brilliant ‘The Undertones’

Nite all

Brian

https://youtu.be/8DGvJSuoI3A

https://youtu.be/Pgqa3cVOxUc

https://youtu.be/aQtaqgW6MXg

Enjoy

ASWGL

Another school day for me SES thanks for these, poor Dixie’s penalty miss, who can forget it, like The Maestro’s LC Final penalty miss against Raith Rovers, I know how bad I felt both times, but I know it was nothing close to the hurt both of them felt. They were special players.

HH

Apols,

My ‘old man’s favourite

Nite all

https://youtu.be/nVrdXUHvsF0

Brian

Frodshambhoy

Brian. You forgot this one:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=VOJNpRqaT0I