Man Up,Match Up!
Sunday’s fiasco still rankles with me,I’m afraid. There are a number of reasons why I would rather not be playing matches against that mob,not least that events of around a decade should have seen them consigned to the dustbin of history. Another good reason that should be is that such matches are rarely a good advertisement for our game.
How can football flourish when one team is allowed to kick the other off the pitch,in a blatant display of anti-football ably abetted by an official whose integrity has long been questionable at best? How can one particular opponent commit at least four separate yellow card offences with barely a word said,much less a card being flourished? Did Madden perhaps have a word in his ear during play as he ran past him? If so,I can only assume it was one of encouragement.
How can their winner be allowed to stand,given the clear offside involved? Well,that raises a bigger issue.
Chris Sutton and others steamrollered Madden’s performance on the day,calling it incompetent,or the worst seen by him from a Scottish referee,which he referred to as “and that’s saying something!” I disagree. It was an excellent performance from Madden,a masterclass and a genuine five star display. He set out with a mission in mind,and he accomplished that mission in full. Very much a good day at the office.
These pages have been filled since by question marks over our manager’s pragmatism-a subject I raised a few weeks ago-or the poor form of some players,our small pool of available replacements etc. I totally understand the points being raised in these and other respects. But let’s deal with those replacements,and maybe the first team picks too.
Abada and especially Jota have been very poor since the turn of the year. The obvious replacement on the right is James Forrest,who simply hasn’t got his mojo back since succumbing to injury eighteen months ago. (Btw,continuing to play a footballer who has a stress fracture of the foot should be a shooting offence). The replacement on the left is Maeda/Kyogo with the other being played central. But in the absence of G-Mak,we have no aerial presence,and that lack of height severely compromises our options and our potency up front.
In midfield,we really have to face up to the fact that CalMac is NOT a central midfielder,not a replacement for Broonie at his peak. Broonie wasn’t a central midfielder either when he joined us,he became one. CalMac won’t. He is much better in his proper role as a left half,and he proves that every bloody time he plays there. In fact,he proves it more every time he is selected as the defensive mid. So who do we play there instead? Well,one option is Bitton,but don’t start me. Another is Reo,but this guy is crying out for a rest,and playing him in the engine room against the intensity of the huns would be a disaster.
Not one player on our bench on Sunday was able to fill the most glaring holes in our line up. There was no attacking height there,no wide flair players,only adapted strikers. No defensive midfield steel. Not a single player on the bench,bar Ralston and Welsh,that I would trust to stand toe to toe in a battle. That may be a bit harsh,but it is nevertheless true. And when you have a referee who is going to permit that battle to commence,we had nobody in the trenches.
Sure,we had cover at the back. Welsh can cover centre half-I still say that he was Player of the Year last season,and with good reason-or right back. Juranovic can switch flanks if Taylor,who has really been in the wars this season,has to come off. It is difficult to cover adequately for both full backs needing to be replaced,but it wasn’t those replacements who cost us the game.
In truth,and this is not simply making excuses,it was Madden who cost us that game. Which brings me back to the original point of this article. Apart from the offside goal,there is not one decision either made or ignored on Sunday which would have been subject to VAR scrutiny. Madden is known for “game management” and Sunday was exactly that. Soft yellow cards flourished at Celtic players,soft free kicks given to halt us in our tracks,assaults ignored when it suited him? None of these is subject to VAR review. Not only did Madden show how it can be done,he provided a training video for all his colleagues on how to get round VAR when it is eventually introduced.
Do all your dirty work in midfield so that the ball cannot get to those areas where VAR comes into play. I’m afraid that anyone who thinks that VAR will be the answer,that it will make our game more honest,should watch a rerun of Sunday. Or you can just wait till next season when I reckon we will be watching a rerun on a regular basis.
Above article by BMCUWP
And for all of the above we were the width of the crossbar from going 2-0 and seeing the game out over the last 20 mins or so. Like we did at Ibrox.
This despite Madhun, the fact we were outplayed and out wrestled in the first half particularly and were unfortunate with injuries to both full backs which upset our defensive balance going into ET.
Like us they had two shots on target. And got “ lucky” with their winner. They wanted it more that’s for sure, fouled with impunity and their twelfth man ensured it would be so.
Lack of steel in key areas, creating next to nothing over 120 mins,( their replacement keeper barely troubled) , players fazed by the physicality of their opponents and unwilling or unable to respond, not good enough replacements off the bench- all combined, resulting in defeat.
A wake up call, further testimony following Bodo disaster that we are 8 or so players away from a fully functioning squad. We only have two barely fit strikers in the squad. We should have 4.
Central defenders, left backs, def mid, a couple of strikers and wing replacements for JF and MJ are all needed. More, if our two loans don’t sign.
A huge summer ahead l, but only I guess if the similar number of current makeweights in the squad can be moved on.
A £30m plus spend?, with a couple of loan deals to supplement.
Chances of that happening?
Question on a postcard to CEO ,
Our club do not intend to say or do anything about the systematic manipulation of rules … any rules.
We all played fitba at some level … even as wee Bhoys we knew that when a squad of tough bassas turned up we had to let them know we weren’t soft… there to be had.
There has always been a version of Madden… despite his antics and some of our players clearly unable to stand up for themselves…will be an ongoing problem if not fixed.. rapid!
The game on Sunday was a draw at 90 minutes … or 1 point apiece…. still 6 & 19 ahead..
Ross County will try more of the same tactics and will probably be enabled by the match officials. Our team simply has to stand up to individual direct opponent and refuse to be intimidated .. admittedly, it looks like we are well short in that department and that is down to the selection criteria.
We don’t want a reputation as soft touches relying on referees to protect us … because we know from harsh experience that ain’t going to happen.
It’s not necessary to boot someone/retaliate to a shocker or lose the plot and angrily surround ref attracting a yellow/red for dissent .. that’s not how it gets sorted … deal with the culprits in advance … let them fekin know!!!
..,. then play fitba
yet another belter of a backdrop… enjoy the fishing buddy.
Could not have put it better myself, the Celtic board will not say a word (shitebags) as they keep the zombie club in business.
You reap what you sow in this life and we as supporter’s are reaping the benefits of a CFC board who will accept whatever the SFA/SPFL throw at us . It will always remain this way so we either like it or lump it. 🤬🤬🤬
Great discussion site guys.👍
Good morning, friends.
They won because bobby madden allowed them to foul with impunity in midfield breaking up our attacking g play .
As Marvin always said…VAR is not the answer – or something like that. VAR was designed and implemented to help the Ref, not do the job for him. The situation up here will never change as long as we have the inherent bias that openly exists in the governing associations. My God, there is still no call out for the sectarian shit we need to listen to week in week out from the stands of wherever that mob are playing that week! Auldheid is part of the way to the answer but until we have directives from ScotGov that action MUST be taken to tackle the problem at grassroot level it’s always gonna be thus…
VAR is not the answer…
This was the version I meant to play…
Thanks,mate. Feel free to join in more often!
Aye,but he also awarded spurious free kicks if we looked like hitting on the break.
Good read Bobby.
Jota, Kyogo and Abada have all been kicked to ribbons by the hammer throwers.
– The national pastime of Scotland is kicking the Celt, Gael, Irish, Highlander.
The Old Firm is all about keeping down the Celt and the superiority of the Saxon/Lowlander.
That’ll never change.
Celtic know it.
The whole system, London, Edinburgh, Hampden, Ibrox is built on sectarianism.
We knew what was coming with the 5WA.
T’was always thus, going back to the days of the landlord and peasant farmer.
Politicians won’t solve it. Only we can – by not paying good money to be treated as second class citizens.
Sadly, calling for the police, courts, politics to change things is a bit of a cop out.
– Simple, stop going.
– Thanks for the kind response to my post the other day.
Great read yesterday, SES.
Was at Man City last night. Many points to discuss but it is glaringly obvious in the playing and refereeing of that game how badly Celtic players are being treated by the SFA, other teams, klan refs and our own board.
De Bruyne, for the opener, would have been fouled long before he got near the danger area.
Contrast with Halliday’s assault on Calmac v the cousins first game.
Equally Salah, on the touch line, for their first the night before. Receives it tightly marked, time to control and roll it inside, turn and stay involved in the attack. Contrast with the treatment, just this season, to wingers at Celtic. The cheats up here knew they were coming under the spotlight more for their decisions so have switched to the ‘ man’s game’ playbook of no decision and ‘ letting the game flow’
Brighton committed seven fouls, seven ( although some bookings) but not because they couldn’t but they knew they would be penalised.
It’s not a long stretch to imagine some loan players not signing simply because they are fearful for their longer careers playing here.
Turnbull, just back, is badly fouled v St. Johnstone and needed treatment at the end but it was forgotten amidst the goal glut.
We knew Sunday was a distinct probability, so presumably did the manager and players.
We will see it again soon.
Don’t agree Bobby, that Madden lost us that game.
Poor decision making in the final 3rd was the reason.
Main culprit was Jotta.
I do agree on our pool of players. We had 2 dm , on the bench . Guchi and Mccarthy why were none of them used. Manager needs to start changing up a bit. We can’t continually go with the same lineup and formation every game.
As for the referee. Our club have stood back and accepted this for all my 61years. Only big Jock ever stood up to them. We need to grow a pair or it will go on for ever
just gives sleekit sniggering huns a quiet room to continue cheating unabated.
Until referees are fairly graded for performance and demoted for poor performance nothing will change.
Accountability. loss of status and revenue is the only thing that will bring impartiality to these cheats.
As an aside.
Maddens game plan was so in synch with them it leaves the suspicion that he and huns had a pregame meet to refine their strategy.
Morning. Agree with fan that until refs are graded it wont matter a jot, also managers by default have to give Sky/BT/Premier Sports post match interviews to explain their tactics, since the SFA/SPFL enter into these televised contracts, then why are refs not subject to post match interviews to explain there decisions and why they went against the rules of the game, which allowed one team to be handicapped.
As i posted on Monday, the best time to complain about referees,is after you have won,it carries much more relevance IMO
I’ve had a look at dope testing in football and the short answer is that since the drama of 2016 when it was revealed that dope testing was practically non existent. Testing numbers have increased (with a dip in 2019-20) but there’s a distinct lack of postive results.
UEFA too don’t appear to test all the samples they take and from what I can see there’s a worrying lack of positives.
The game is either exceptionally clean or there is something going on…
BBC 10th March 2016…
“Only eight drugs tests have been conducted in Scottish football during the last nine months with none in the last three, BBC Sport has learned.
A Partick Thistle player is the only British footballer currently banned, for taking cocaine.
(Tested in a game v Celtic…)
From the 1st of July 2019 to the 1st of May 2020 the UK Anti Doping Agency confirmed in response to a Freedom of Information Act request that 19 tests were conducted in the SPFL
Previous Seasons, more testing…No positives in the SPFL,
One might think that any abuse would be picked up by UEFA. There’s an impressive policy in place.
But how many of the samples they take are actually tested?
How many positives come from the testing (all competitions)?
UEFA Dope Testing Stats, 2020/2021
1) 1800 samples.
2) 677 tests.
3) ? Positives.
“A total of 1,417 samples were collected in-competition in UEFA competitions (not counting EURO 2020) in the 2020/21 season, as well as 374 out-of-competition samples…
A total of 677 samples were analysed for EPO and erythropoiesis-stimulating agents (ESA) – medications which stimulate the bone marrow to make red blood cells – and 30 samples underwent isotope ratio mass spectrometry (IRMS) analysis designed to detect use of steroids.”
How many positives?
That bottle I mentioned is coming nearer to fruition. Decision has been made to go ahead. Will keep you posted.
Just like they promised a Generation of Domination, with the arrival of Sevco, they have to try and convince you VAR will make a difference.
Every Celtic goal will be put under the microscope the slightest whiff of an infringement will be used against Celtic.
Sevco bottled it at Parkhead without support, that’s why they’ll walk back in.
Relying on Sky/BBC/BT to interview Madden etc won’t work.
You have to see that kicking the Celt is a national pastime…
The PLC can’t let you see that.
Sean Dyche famously led Burnley into Europe. But I didn’t realise that he very nearly led Chesterfield to the FA Cup. I knew about the events,of course,including the ‘goal’ not awarded. Just unaware of his part in it. Watch the embedded video.
Once again,you surpass yourself while spoiling the rest of us. I know you don’t do it just for fishing for compliments,so enjoy the real thing.
I’m very apprehensive about VAR. I think they will be more likely to stick to the rules in televised games-but I’ve been caught out with that thinking before,a long time ago.
It DOES remove the excuse of ‘honest mistakes’,at least at the business end. But as Madden proved,you can get round that by taking the business end out of the equation.
Sorry,I couldn’t reply to your question yesterday about VAR parameters in different countries. Shifts are cutting down my pleasure! I googled it when I got home,it seems there are no hard and fast international regulations on how,when and why it should be used.
That in itself is a worry. I suspect that the IFAB might be looking at this over the summer,ahead of the World Cup.
There’s a few good programmes out there that track how VAR is working…
Who’s benefitting the most etc.
I’ve had a good look at them…
The problem is the data will be ignored.
There is no reason for Scottish football’s stats to be out of cynic with the data from other leagues.
At least it’s something I guess.
(VAR didn’t cover everything but it should disclose trends…they’ll have to figure a way round it).
Hope you’re well and CCB, haven’t seen him around for a few days.
It’s not a long stretch to imagine some loan players not signing simply because they are fearful for their longer careers playing here.
That’s exactly what I was thinking about Jota. Lots of comments about the stick he gets with no protection from MIBs and no obvious support from the club.
He must notice this. Is he asking Celtic why they seem content to allow this or is he just thinking sod this for a game of soldiers. I’ll look elsewhere
Bobby, great news.
Thanks for that. 👍
The only way to ensure a level playing field in Scotland is to kill off the entity that play’s at Ibrox. Ok don´t kill them off needs must etc. but if they do get into some kind of dire straits like say they are liquidated and want to come back unfettered. Then it is imperative to ensure you get some kind of concession before allowing them to return as another team. Unless of course you don’t want to interfere with the ingredients of the recipe that has ensured your century old money making cow. Coca cola done it. Cocaine is bad for you. Barr´s done it with Irn Bru. Excessive sugar is bad for you. The list is endless. Except in Bonny Wee Scotland in the year of our Lord 2022 ( That´s 20 years after the setting of Arthur C. Clarke´s space Odyssey) (3 years after Blade Runner) etc.
It´s is part of the product you are buying. I think most readily accept that on here The Jock Stein Mantra (just read back). I thought we were kicked off the park for 120 mins on Sunday and all our attempts at playing football deliberately suffocated. Any other assessment is delusional as far as I am concerned.
Us Boycotters need to accept that the majority of the complainers are just bumping their gums for the sake of it in a vain attempt at occupying the higher moral ground and that the obtuse behavior is just part of the product. I suppose it makes you feel better at you cheating yourself
Not a lot I can disagree with there .
Cast your minds back to 1994.
David Murray makes a decision to ban Celtic fans from Ibrox due to the damage, Celtic fans allegedly caused on a previous trip there.
Fast forward to 2022 and why are Celtic not doing the same ???
Those animals should be nowhere near Celtic Park !!!
At a recent Q & A with Michael Nicholson, the question was asked to which he replied, “ We have to, it’s in the rules “. Absolutely bottle merchant !!!
Must be one rule for, Ahh well you know the rest !!!
How many rules have that mob broke and nothing happens !!!!
As an aside, in 1994, I know of a Celtic fan who went to the game, undercover of course,
The score that day was 1-1, courtesy of John Collins’s predator boots, and this fan I know was sitting beside a certain David Syme, Grade 1 referee at the time, who was in full voice when the singing started.
Neutral my arse !!!!!!!
Enjoy your day 🍀🍀
Leggy intended to ask if and when Bobby let us have each other’s email addresses.
Are you still in touch with Benny The Ball, Snagglepuss etc from the old team.
To lose to an og 6 mins from the end of 120 mins of anti football, with key defenders missing/ playing out of position is a testament to what?
Game management on a grand scale won the game for them.
They proved on the day what a limited team they are. Plenty of “dig” resulting in Two shots on target.
We showed we lack resources in key areas: CF, CM and LB.
5 games to put things right vis-a-vis the league.
That’s all that matters now.
Our season finishes on May 14th.
Hopefully giving Ange and players a well deserved holiday and ample time to tool up for next season.
One turgid, assisted Hun victory is not a complete disaster.
We go again on Sunday.
Benny the Ball, is a Season ticket holder and our main driver to games 👍👍 Good lad.
Snag, has embarrassed himself more times than I can remember and is barred from a few pubs in EK 👎
If your looking in, can you pass on my E Mail to Frodshambhoy 👍
I also go to the games with Willie Mad Dog, Marco Tardelli and Chimp. Think you might know them 👍
Enjoyed the article.Thank you.
Regarding VAR I believe it is restricted or will be in this country to 4 categories 1.Goals,2 Pens,3,Mistaken Identity??4.Red cards.As per STV so probably wrong.
Point being Madhun manipulated the game in that manner allowing their players to intimidate and be aggressive in winning the ball and at times to the injury of our players.
Hugh Dallas has subsequently confirmed Bobby did well in the game and the situations being spoke about are of the opinion related not refereeing laws of the game fact.So he finds way to gain an advantage for his team in the hope they benefit.
It was allowed to be a physical game and we lack physicality.I spoke of this at the start of the season and I spoke of a lack of height throughout the team too.
I have been proven wrong as our manager and team have found ways to win through playing great football with determination and tremendous team spirit.If the 2nd goal was ours we progress into the final and we all believed he treble was on but hopefully we learn from this.In the next 5 games we cant get any taller and we cant get more physicality but we can do what we have done and have been doing and keep winning.
Our manager and team have many flaws but they have more attributes and to put us in a situation of winning a league that Sevconians had not just thought they had won but had already booked their title party celebrations is not just an outstanding achievement it is also a severe kick in their financial balls.
We have to let all the media negativity and wishful thinking pass and concentrate on the 5 game title clinching games ahead.
There have been some great posts today as always and a great balance in why we always love the Hoops as a football team and not the board but for 5 games we believe in Ange and the players as we have for the previous 33 and we get over
Spent close to 30ml and still not right.
G Mak back in full training
Leggy that’s great. Hope everyone is ok.
Snag came and had a wee holiday at our place in Seaford, probably not long after he got married.
A fair assessment of recent events.
As far as the league title is concerned, what it all boils down to is this. Win our next two games and-no matter what the Huns do-we will be champions…albeit on goal difference. Hopefully G-Mak will be fit for Sunday’s vital game. Even to see him on the bench, would be a great morale booster, but if there is any doubt about his fitness, I would much rather see him unleashed on the Huns.
Some real quality posts today. I have fairly enjoyed the read back.
MAGUA, apologies for not responding to your post last night, was taking the dugs oot, but whatever you said I agree🤩🤩 JIM has not been on i presume the darts finals are on, just noticed steve davis is competing, my god he is nearly as old as me, but hey he does throw a good dart, 🤩 hope you are well,👍
All good here, pal…but I’ll once again be a total nervous wreck come Sunday. 😀
Packy, I thought Steve Davis was a golfer. Did he not score a hole in one at St. Andrews?
That Steve Davis fella is some man. He’s also played for the Huns, and was a fair old snooker player, back in the day. 😀
What is special about this Celtic team from the 1895-96 season
McArthur, Meechan, Doyle, Maley, Kelly, Battles,
Blessington, Madden, Martin, McMahon and
Cyber pint if you dont google the answer
Total guess here. They all represented their respective countries as full internationals?
They may of, I’m not sure on that, but not the answer to this specific question 😃
JIM, you are a mind of information🤩 long time no speak