A Rock-And A Hard Place


Morning,all.

We have now embarked on our longest close season break for a considerable number of years,something which will be a relief to many of our star players. Yes,there are a few international matches planned,but that is a perennial problem at this time of year nowadays. CalMac will be one puzzled guy,having not had more than a fortnight off for about eight years. Our Japanese Bhoys will have virtually the entire summer-two days in June,IIRC(!)-to learn Parliamo Glesca. Others will simply bask in the sunshine and some well earned glory after a long hard season,one which came off the rails right from the start,yet finished,well,like a train. 

But supporters of a certain vintage-most of us!-know that there is only one certainty in life. The common adage,of course,is that there are two-death and taxes. A certain entity rendered that quip redundant a decade ago,so the only certainty left is that Celtic will not consolidate from a position of strength. Perhaps the only time in my memory that we went large after a title win was by signing Big Bad John in the summer of 2001. He made his mark almost immediately when he came on as a substitute in early August against Kilmarnock. 

He nearly put an opposition player into the stands,with a tackle which showed all the hallmarks of a ring-rusty player desperate to make an impression! He was very lucky to remain on the pitch for that,and took nearly three months to finally score for us. He soon made up for lost time,of course. 

We could all give chapter and verse on the other occasions when we simply rested on our laurels-(!)-with the board ignoring the entreaties of the manager at the time. Will this time be different? Or will it be the definition,as ever,of madness? A quote wrongly attributed to Einstein,btw.

All of our years of supporting Celtic have made us cynical. Or is it the actions/inactions of the board who have done that? Or weary resignation to the inevitable? Penny-pinching boards everywhere have used the excuse that the players who brought their team success should be allowed to enjoy it,and I have no problem with that. But to be successful,you need to be better every time. What happened last week is irrelevant. 

So what brought about our success this season,especially after such a woeful start? And how can we build on that success? How do we avoid the inevitable backlash from the soo’siders and their sympathisers? How,actually,does AP thank a player for his wonderful contribution to a magnificent season by suggesting that he probably has no future at the club?

Ange has made a good start on this most difficult part of management. Both Nir Bitton and Tom Rogic have served the club for almost a decade. The latter,brought back into the fold by Ronny Deila,was virtually ever present for four years solid. The two years that bookended those,each under Neil Lennon,saw him rarely figure as a starter,and you would have to ask NL himself why that should be. Nir Bitton is probably the 21st Century Tommy Callaghan,a marmite player amongst the support. However,it leaves us light of two very experienced players. 

But we have the cover in midfield,and Ange has taken a difficult decision,and I’m sure as hell not gonna suggest that he might be wrong! We also have cover up front. Abada has been a revelation-signed as a 19yo,and could only be a fabled project,he hit the ground running. What a bloody player he has been. G-Mak. Kyogo. Maeda. Seriously,if you based the POTY awards on their achievements and performance this season,it would be a pinstickers pick. My own are based on having managed to play for most of the season. Few of our players even managed that. 

Kyogo,just hitting his stride,found that his stride caused him serious hamstring problems. Out for months. Jota,on loan from Benfica,had his own injury problems at the same time,and returned with a fanfare,having been outstanding earlier,but frankly looked like the “before” Six Million Dollar Man,rather than the “after” version,which had us all clamouring to get his loan deal made permanent ASAP. 

Is it a coincidence that the return to the team of Kyogo saw Jota bouncing back to top form again? I’m pretty sure that the young fella wants a go at the Champions League. I’m pretty sure too that he has a genuine infatuation with Celtic. And that he views us as a means of getting his career back on track,catching the eye of continental or English clubs. One of which certainly will not be Wolves. (Google it)

However,Wolves might be a problem for us anyway. A stadium half the size of ours,right next to the local racecourse which gives lucky punters the chance to use their binoculars twice on a Saturday. I have nothing against Wolves,btw. Hell,they nearly went out of existence every week since they built that stupid stand about forty years ago. 

Build it and they will come. Build it and they will say-I canny see fuckall fae here. Business 101. 

However…

The mainstay of our success this season has been our defence. Our rock this season. Sure,we have outscored everyone. But for how long has our defence been known as The Sieve? 22 goals last season,38 games. About a goal against every 150 minutes. That is very impressive in any league. It is particularly impressive when only one of the back four,plus the goalkeeper,was with us the year before. 

Juranovic is a tremendous footballer. If anything,what let’s him down is his reaction when he fucks up. Big breaths needed,some anxiety control. We love ye,mate. And we’ve all effed up. Ralston,he has been a f…..g revelation this season! But he is nowhere near the quality of Juranovic,and I’m hoping that Ange and the team will be drilling into him how to be a midfield destroyer. David Hay did it,why not AR? Time the tackles better,read the game better. Strange that he didn’t learn that from a master of the art,btw. 

Joe Hart? Stay fit,son. Play as long as you like. I remember you from a decade and more as a kid,and telling my mates how good you were. Take yer time sending a smelly glove to Guardiola to remind him that you still have a career. 

And here we have the nub. The central defence. Aye,we’ve waited a long time to actually have a central defence that inspires confidence rather than fear,and that losing a goal every 150 minutes inspires confidence. Of course it does. And yet…

I remember Starfelt trying to clear with his left foot,as the ball cannoned in off his right shin. That one particularly sticks in my mind,as I might have managed to introduce The Irvine No 1 CSC to some new words that night. Or at least,a world record in using old ones. But,when we hit our stride,so did Carl. He has played in an unfamiliar,left sided central defender,role all season. Effectively been asked to sacrifice his reputation because we had signed a loanee. 

The loanee in question has spent about six years on loan at lower division clubs. He had,I think,two caps for USA before he joined us. He is 25yo this year,this is not wunderkind time for him. Frankly,he has done eff all elsewhere,done great for us,but Starfelt has been left playing a position that simply is not his. 

If I’ve got £6mto spend on a loanee,I’ll spend it on Jota. But we desperately need to identify a quality left sided centre back,to allow Starfelt to move back to his proper role. And we also need to ensure that Stephen Welsh knows that he is valued and wanted. 

Oh,etcetera,etcetera,etcetera. It’s good to be the king. 

For once in our life,we have to get this right. 

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Good morning, like yourself I am not confident we will strengthen like we should. Bankier and Co have a track record of holding us back. Some of that CL needs spent.

Craig76
BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

CRAIG76

Paddy Power on the Follow Follow banned list!

Prestonpans bhoys

Bobby

The problem we have is with a PLC which has a tendency to hoard cash, they keep it as if its their own. The PLC’s KPI’s should be football orientated not a piggy bank for shareholders dividends.

No excuses this season, the financial infrastructure is stable, time to enhance the team not the piggy bank.

Craig
Great clip there, I said to my Killie loving cousin yesterday, I’m amazed at the efforts bhoys put into these clips👍👏👏👏

Craig76

BMCUWP
That must be a bloody long list by now 😀

Prestonpans bhoys
The Tam Sellic son twitter account has to be 1 of the best in Celtic twitter land the stuff he puts out is brilliant

Jobo Baldie

Good morning, friends and a Big Happy Friday to all posters and lurkers.
Whilst it is a real bonus to now have, what, 2 months with no club football there are a series of Internationals scheduled in early June. All European countries have 3 games in the Nations League (for example Scotland face Armenia home and away on June 8 and 14 as well as Ireland, away on June 11). In addition Scotland play Ukraine at Hampden in the World Cup play off semi final on June 1st. If we win we play Wales away in the play off final 4 days later.
This all makes our automatic Champions League spot even more significant, unlike the other Scottish teams who will have qualifying matches in July and August.

McCaff

Morning all!
This is an interesting Close Season. You’d need to assume that Ange has been promised support from the PLC! I know that seems a simplistic stance but the expeditious nature of the January signings were a significant welcome departure from our normal modus operandi. Nicholson’s interaction on the presentation podium with EVERY member of staff and EVERY player on Saturday was indicative of a trust that wasn’t evident before. My hope is that it showed there is a proper working relationship between him and Ange whereby both men understand each others’ position. Anything else takes us back to Lawell’s methods and I don’t think Ange would stick around too long in that case!
C76…Paddy Power! Fantastic!!! 🤣🤣🤣

The Gombeen Man

According to Transfermarket Jota’s contract is up at the end of May. CCV’s at the end of June.

Ange’s contract apparently runs until the end of May.

“Frankly, he (CCV)has done eff all elsewhere.”

That’s not the case.

The reason Newcastle want CCV is that he did so well at Bournemouth. (Eddie Howe’s backroom staff worked with the player.)

He’s apparently wanted by Fulham, Bournemouth, West Ham and Newcastle.

Have a look at the reviews everywhere he’s been. Bournemouth fans were desperate to see him signed permanently.

Agreed he’s had too many loans – Spurs have mismanaged the player.

CCV’s performances at Celtic are just a continuation of the form he showed at Bournemouth and elsewhere.

In PLC speak, if he stays and stays fit – we’ll make money…He’ll be pivotal to retaining the League.

I just don’t see how a Club with CL or EL aspirations let’s someone like CCV go…Unless he’s unwilling to sign or he is just too expensive.

Maybe Ange or The Lawwells have something else in mind?

https://sbisoccer.com/2022/05/source-newcastle-united-has-renewed-interest-in-cameron-carter-vickers-transfer

Till later.

The Gombeen Man

It’s generally accepted that what are known as the Irish Travelling Community is what remains of the poor who were left homeless by invaders from Britain.

In this short video you’ll see how folk lived and how the Irish came to be perceived by the British.

It’s ironic, given Darwin’s picture as the background – that the Irish were portrayed in the media as being on a different evolutionary path to the Anglo-Saxon.

That portrayal justified treating people as less than human – rationalised the starvation and genocide of An Gorta Mór.

This is perhaps how the Irish looked when they arrived in Scotland?

Folk surviving by adjusting to the barbaric circumstances they found themselves in.

Words do they make a difference?

The guy who posted this video has chosen a moniker that many would find offensive?

Travelling people prefer to be referred to as the Mincéirí.

Does our choice of words simply reflect our own limited perspective of the world?

Enjoy the day.

https://youtu.be/hYdJtM3ShUg

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

ASWGL

Magic background,and thanks as always! But I do think that Darwin would have ripped up his thoughts about evolution if he’d met a hun or two in his life.

Awe Naw

The procession for the undefeated Europa League Winners

You’d say I’m putting you on
But it’s no joke
It’s doing me harm
You know I can’t sleep
I can’t stop my brain
You know it’s three weeks
I’m going insane
You know I’d give you everything I’ve got for a little peace of mind
I’d give you everything I’ve got for a little peace of mind
I’d give you everything I’ve got for a little peace of mind

https://youtu.be/LuF20t9kGcA

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

THEGOMBEENMAN

I take your point,but it doesn’t alter mine-that he has been floating about the lower leagues without making a great impression. With us,he sure has! And that point will be proved next week when we hand out our POTY awards,by podium. SALTIRES,MAHE and myself have picked a gold,silver and bronze.

It is no coincidence that my article is on CCV,or is it? Either way,it is one that I am more than happy to do,and I have been fulsome in my praise of him all season. Not once have I criticised him,though I accept that my comments in the article appear to be damning him by faint praise.

I genuinely hope that he makes the right decision. Stay with us. Two or three years,performing at the top level like the CL,people will take notice-they already have!-and he still has two good contracts in him at the top level. IMO,it makes sense for him,rather than court the strong possibility that moving to a lower level EPL club could possibly trash his rep rather than enhance it.

My point was that if we only go for one of the loanees,Jota should be the man. I don’t think we have had a man on the left like him since,maybe,Thommo. And yes,CCV is a vast improvement on recent centre halves. But so too is Carl Starfelt,and he deserves the chance to impress in his favoured position.

The other more important point,is that we need a quality left sided centre back. If we sign one,what’s the chances of fitting him,CCV and Starfelt into the same side? And how much damage would that do to Stephen Welsh,whom I rate highly?

Ange and Michael Nicholson get paid the big bucks for difficult decisions like this. And they have already shown that they have little time for sentiment. AP will be looking at how he wants his team to line up,how his options on the bench are likely to work,etc. I’m sure not gonna start teaching my granny to suck eggs now.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

AWENAW

Delighted for you and all Eintracht fans who were there,and all the Celtic fans who roared you on that night from their devices. Ooooops,I mean all the Eintracht fans who roared you on that night from their devices.

BOBBY MURDOCH’S CURLED-UP WINKLEPICKERS

THEGOMBEENMAN

That’s a sore video to watch. The persecution of travellers has long been a problem,yet that clip was made a year or two before The Summer of Love,and the explosion of the hippy movement. Similar lifestyles,but with the money to afford it.

I’ve always said that I will be forever grateful to CQN for the friendships I made through the site,but one of the best of those was with a lad who refused point blank to come to a Hootenanny. TRAVELLERBHOY. The clue is in the name,and what a man,mensch,he is. We used to converse regularly,he’d phone me in the middle of the night-he knew I was working,so no problem-and we would put the world to rights.

Sadly,the daft c keeps losing his phone,but he usually manages to find me even if I have no chance of finding him. Eventually,he did come to a hoot-a good few of them,in fact. Firstly with his son,later with his wife,M. One of the good guys in life who was dealt a really bad hand. But I’m proud of how he has dealt with it.

SFTB

Just seen on the BBC News an announcement on new city status. It lists Milton Keynes and several other towns in England that have become cities. It lists Bangor as a new City in the statelet, and then the headline is New Cities in Scotland which they claim are Dunfermline and Douglas in the Isle of Man- who knew?

TheNabbla

Ah Wednesday’s electronic tl says 1-1,5-4 pen win to E.F.

If only-
Had they
Should they.
Could they have.

No.its history now.defeated..
10 years old and imagination

HH.

Red John Adair- bastard
Rita Gallagher.

https://youtu.be/xJbw-k09sV0

SFTB
Big Audio Dynamite

Happy Coronation cup anniversary day

Up the Celts! 🍀

jimthetim53

Bobby, I remember my first hoot and it was Travellerbhoy I sat beside at the bar, he was a smashing guy to talk to. Then in came Garry who stood besides us. Great company. Garry, by his own admission, was in a quiet mood that day. His son came in and he cheered up.
Happy day!

A thing of beauty

Awe Naw,
So glad you made it back in one piece. We will definitely catch up in the next season for a beer to celebrate. Lots of Huns here complaining they were treated badly and couldn’t get water etc within the stadium. That’s been given as the reason why they couldn’t sing but as etims points out, they’ve really not got any European acceptable songs. What was the experience like in the Frankfurt end. From the bits I saw you were all in fine voice and plenty of energy. Your president pretty much said the same also. He’s called them out for being quiet and disappearing before the presentations. They’re a strange bunch.

I am an Optimist by nature & certainly an optimist when it comes to Celtic.
Throughout the year I’ve waded through gloom & doom Posts both here & on CQN,
The Refs wouldn’t allow us to win the League, our Board were in collusion to throw the League anyway.
The Huns were guaranteed 40/45 Million CL money this was a game changer and we were looking at 5 year Hun domination etc etc,
All the worry & fretting & distress were a complete waste of time.
Surely we are not going to start the cycle again.
I totally concur with McCaff’s Post, we have a new man at the Helm in Nicholson, We have a star Manager in Ange,
We have guaranteed CL Monies, no Qualifiers no need for rushed half baked buys,
We have Gia, Maeda & Kyogo . There is uncertainty on both Jota & CCV , hopefully both will stay but if they don’t , I have total confidence in Ange to bring in as good if not better.
Of course there are challenges and uncertainties and whether we care to admit it or not the Huns did well on their recruitment in last year or two and are still likely to pose a bit of a threat next Season.
But that’s fine bring it on, be aware of Hun threat but have no fear of it.
I sincerely believe we are on the cusp of something great & exciting with this Celtic Team, The shortcomings in our squad are clearly evident , we as Supporters can see it, I’m absolutely certain Ange can see it.
Will Ange get the Board backing he needs, I can’t say for certain but my opinion is he will.
Tom & Nir are gone and there are a host of others who were never in their League anyway who need to go,
We need to recruit wisely no squad fillers , Ange himself mentioned strength & physicality as the requirement.
Quality before quantity,
Year 1 was good Ange, let’s make Year 2 better,

The Gombeen Man

BMCUWPs,

Thanks M, Jota and CCV are happy dilemmas to have I guess.

Finding a left sided centre-back seems to be like looking for the Holy Grail.

Ange seems to know what type of a player he wants and improves the vast majority of players he works with.

Exciting times.

I’ve met Travellerbhoy and his son. He’s much missed on the Blogs. Hopefully we’ll see him return in due course.

Awe Naw,

Congratulations on the win on Wednesday. I enjoyed the video you posted. I’ve come across that guy before.

He has another one after the recent election in the Six Counties.

You’ll probably need the weekend to come back down to earth.

Pretty funny.

BMCUW

Nobody can know for sure how the close season will pan out as regards signings. My gut feeling though, is that Jota will stay on. CCV? The wages will be our biggest problem, I reckon. We’ll see. As for signings in general, I don’t think that Ange will accept anything other than us kicking on. The board does not know how to deal with the man…but apparently Nicholson does. Which is just fine, in my book. As for THAT tackle at Rugby Park. None of us who witnessed that event, could not believe that BBJ did not receive a straight red. The big Welshman eventually became a Celtic legend though. Who could ever forget his goal at Anfield? Speaking of Big Welshmen who became Celtic legends, I wonder if Aaron Ramsey is playing the morra?

Corkcelt/McCaff

On balance, I would tend to agree.

TGM

That was a tough watch…but thanks all the same, for posting the link.

Craig76

I’m still howling at the Paddy Power video. Cheers for posting it. 😀

Hail Hail.

Craig76

Ryanair definitely on the ban list 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

https://twitter.com/Ryanair/status/1527637193296068609?s=20&t=6dsW_IPR_AunK4IXnLbTQg

Craig76

CorkCelt,

We are each unique. You have an optimistic view of the world of Celtic, others have a pessimistic view. I am somewhere in between.
However, I think there is danger in your don’t worry, be happy view.
I no longer worry about Celtic since the disaster of last season. What comes, comes but it is wise to be aware of the threats. Disaster for Celtic is not really a disaster in a real sense. It is finishing second. For most teams that would be a million miles away from disaster.
Pressure makes things happen at Celtic, although the former CEO would never admit that. Pressure through highlighting the tragic strategic decisions made by PL…hiring NL, buying Ajeti and Barkas..and going to Dubai in a pandemic……forced change.
If fans had simply said it’s OK, it will turn out fine, then we would still have NL and PL, or at least one of them.

There is nothing wrong with having concerns even tho we won the league.

There is little between Sevco and Celtic, even if we like to delude ourselves that we are much better. Personally, I think that this is a good thing if we react appropriately. The situation with central defence is uncertain…CCV could depart. Starfelt could get injured. Then we are back to Welsh and Murray, or possibly Julien. There is a lack of height, generally, in the back four. Both FBs are small.
Attack looks good but midfield still needs work.

Sevco will probably out perform us this year on revenue which they will use to reassure backers that they can spend. I would not be surprised if they forked out 10 million+. They are good in the free agent market so they can make that go far. Morellos will probably be shipped out for a bargain fee to produce more funds. They demonstrated that they can function without him.

Where I agree with you is that Ange will see the problem areas in our squad but I am less sure that he will be backed to resolve them. The new CEO and head of recruitment are largely untested. So there is uncertainty there. Sure we might find replacements for Jota and CCV but it takes time for them to bed in. As Sevco discovered, success depends on small margins. too many new players at once produces these margins.

Rebus

The Gombeen Man

Having re-watched the video of the Mincéirí or Traveller folk that I posted at 9.29am.

I thought I’d outline a perspective on the Celtic people.

A way to understand the Celts is to think of them in terms of not just a group of tribes across Europe but as a period of time.

Something similar to the Bronze Age.

Many of the customs and ways of life that they shared simply died out. Education, formal religious practices, organisation, structure intervened across Europe.

Transformation was brought to Britain by the Romans, the Angle, Saxon, Viking and Norman.

In the north of Britain the Picts and more profoundly the Gaels proved more resistant to the changes.

Gradually the culture of the Celtic Briton disappeared.

Remember the Christianity of Patrick and Columba was a more basic system. It acknowledged Rome but did its own thing, in many ways.

The arrival of the Vikings destroyed much of the monastic infrastructure before the invasion from Britain.

When the Normans and formal Roman Catholicism got to Ireland, they found culture and practices that had been commonplace across Britain and Europe in the centuries before.

Wergeld is a good example. The English and the Church were appalled at the payment of a fee as compensation for taking a life.

This practice had been common across Europe until the 9th century. Many of the things they condemned the Irish for doing, they’d only recently stopped doing themselves.

All conveniently forgotten.

Wergeld was sidelined and capital punishment was installed.

The Irish were labelled as barbarian and treated as less than human.

After the removal of the Gaelic Lords, the Brehon Laws and forced eviction of the indigenous population, attempts were made to transplant a readymade British population.

As we know the indigenous Gaelic population didn’t go quietly.

The prejudice against the Irish is really based on the simple fact that England is situated closer to mainland Europe and absorbed the cultural changes more readily.

The Travelling folk in the video are a reminder of what war, An Gorta Mór and evictions left behind.

The population, forestry and culture were subject to a scorched earth policy.

At times policies were adopted where an area was instructed to clear out all people and animals by a certain date. Anything left behind was slaughtered.

What remained of the population was eventually fast tracked through education and a form of religious fundamentalism.

That was an acutely painful process and is illustrated by the lonely emigration of the excess population during the 50s and 60s of the Irish to Kilburn, Birmingham, the US and around the world.

The Mincéirí are a painful reminder of what it used to be like.

Today we’re a product of intermarriage with folk from outside the traditional narrow tribal structures and geographic boundaries.

A product too of religious and educational programming –

Ireland is now a hybrid-Celtic-European nation. She’s a better place than 1965, not perfect but better.

Beyond that conditioning, there’s a recognition a deeply embedded memory somewhere when we see those women and children from 1965.

That’s why Ireland has been so generous to Ukrainian refugees. I’d a conversation about this recently and referred to the housing shortage here.

The answer I got was an intuitive one, without thought.

“We just see someone coming for your kids. Picking up the kids and running for your life.”

The minute those images from Ukraine were seen, that unconscious memory, was triggered.

What happened in Ireland was too cruel, too barbaric to be erased by educational or religious programming.

It’s quietly embedded in the DNA.

It’s also why the Six Counties won’t be forgotten.

The Gombeen Man

Cheers Magua,

It’s what had to be done to survive.

Ask Charles Trevelyan.

Survival of the fittest.

How our people made it out, I’ll never know.

Anyway,

Till later, enjoy your weekend.

If JJ had Tony’s crossing ability he’s worth at least £30 million in my humble opinion.

Margaret McGill

TGM
What unconscious memories were triggered when the Yemeni images were seen?

Margaret McGill

IMHO the MO of the PLC is unchanged. The MO of AP is under no doubt and its clear its about the best football team Celtic can be.
Embdy think the PLC preparations for the CL will be just as shambolic as before with European humiliations still the norm?
Naw?

Andy Pandy 2

Ajeti, Barkas, Dembele, Soro, Bolingoli Johnston possibly Julien, to name a few, plus the returning loanees….all need to be sorted/shipped out. Getting new players in to fill the gaps, which I am sure have already been identified by Ange. Also, what about the up and coming youth players, where will they fit in?? Busy summer. But, what a difference from this time last year. At least we have something tangible to offer any new recruits. Exciting times. As for Sevco, it’s gonna be spend spend spend. Season ticket money is virtually gaurenteed and a few of the saleable assets will generate some more, we shall see!

The Gombeen Man

Mags,

The short answer is the same unconscious memory.

More to do but here’s an indication.

If you’re ever over drop into one of the Aid Agencies here. You might be surprised.

https://www.oxfamireland.org/blog/donors-slash-funding-yemen

https://merrionstreet.ie/en/news-room/news/irish_aid_pledges_a_further_5_million_to_yemen_humanitarian_relief.173358.shortcut.html

Bigrailroadblues

Good afternoon all from Shawlands. Huns are being verbally torn to shreds in here. Hilarious.

JimmynotPaul

From St Rochs.100 YEARS AGO TODAY

Scottish Junior Cup Final
Saturday 20th of May 1922

St Roch’s 2 Kilwinning Rangers 1
⚽️ Hilley (27)
⚽️ McGrory (60)

St Rochs Team
Steel
Clark (c)
Millar
Mooney
Swan
Stafford
Milne
McGrory
Neary
Rollo
Hilley

Att : 28,000

1/2 https://t.co/VYWIdITQGr

JimmynotPaul

At 3pm today have a wee thought for the Candy Legends who won the Scottish Cup.

Later on the same day we discovered that Klwinning Rangers had put in a protest about the registration of a Candy player and it was up held.

2/3

JimmynotPaul

The game was ordered to be replayed a couple of weeks later at Firhill stadium.

St Rochs won the rearraged tie 2-1

⚽️ McGrory
⚽️ Rollo

And became the first (and only) side to win the Scottish Cup twice in same season.

James McGrory scored in both games before joining Celtic https://t.co/qIFbx8VAxJ

The Gombeen Man

Mags,

Palestine?

More to do.

https://www.dfa.ie/our-role-policies/our-work/casestudiesarchive/2014/july/situation-in-gaza-and-israel-irelands-position/

Some may find this of interest?

https://youtu.be/qEURxA09pYA

Back to the real world…

Enjoy your weekend.

big packy

SOL KITTS i swear my old man in 1963 driving a ford prefect ,switched his engine off at the bottom of the electric brae, and it went uphill,,another true story, SOL regarding culzean castle a former american president had a suite there, I know because it was next to mine😎 cyber pint if you know the name of the president,

Margaret McGill

TGM
I’m sure you’re right.
The point I was making is that when it comes to refugees white Christians are more palpable than brown Muslims.

fan

In sport there is recognition and subsequent action.
Players and coaches recognition often determine outcome for better or worse.
To improve what is recognized as weaknesses takes money or coaching and sometimes no amount of coaching can improve so money is required to remedy.
The people in charge of the money need to understand why coach needs money for players.
Often these money men consider they are better at deciding needs and where money is spent as to them if you have a squad coach should improvise within.
There seems to be no board recognition of the fact that square pegs do not fit in round holes.
Building a squad in the modern financial landscape is difficult and requires constant attention as the present and future are interlinked.
Standing still makes it easy for an opponent to go past you.
Too change such an attitude is never easy and when it fails it can lead to a breakdown between football department and money men.
This has consistently been a problem with the present board.
Hopefully Nicholson has been given a different set of parameters to facilitate Ange’s aims.

big packy

MAGUA, my late grandfather loved john yogi hughes he had a pub in coatbridge which as a teenager i used to frequent ,cyber pint if you can name the pub, also in coatbridge there was another pub owned by a great defender for celtic, but never got the recognition he deserved, clue this ghuy had a brother who also played for celtic, cyber pint for the answer😎

jimthetim53

Packy, Dwight D. Eisenhower? I’m sure I read that!

jimthetim53

oops , sorry for the misspelling. I’ve sorted it.

big packy

JIM, cyber pint on its way👍

jimthetim53

After reading JNP’s post I looked up Jimmy McGrory on Wiki.
His first wage, aged 16, at St. Roch’s was £2 per week! I then looked up inflation calculator and that equates to £95 nowadays. Pretty poor wage even for a 16 yo. A different era!

jimthetim53

My first wage when I left school in December 1968 was £5 pw. I gave it all to my mother and she gave me about 10/- pocket money!

big packy

JIM, in jimmy mcgrorys day the players went on the bus to games, no fancy cars in those days, they sat beside the fans,,how times have changed,

jimthetim53

Packy, I just checked my first wage of £5 in 1968, it’s the equiv. of £92 now! So Jimmy Mcgrory got more than I did working in the Co-op.

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